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A80160 Responsoria bipartita, sive vindiciæ suspensionis ecclesiasticæ ut et presbyterii evangelici. A double reply, containing a vindication of the antient practice of the Church (according to the rule of the word) suspending the ignorant and scandalous from the Lords Supper. As also of ecclesiastical presbyteries ... The first in answer to one M. Boatmans challenge of all the ministers on earth to make suspension of any but Turks, Jews, pagans and excommunicate persons from the Lords Supper, appear from Scriptures. In answer to whom the said censure is justified by several arguments from Scripture, and the universal practice of the Church, the magisterial vanity also of his sermon, Decem. 13. and March 28. in Peters Church in Norwich is discovered, ... In which answer also some objections of Erastus, Mr. Prin, and Mr. Humfry, are coilaterally considered, and answered. The second part in answer to Theophilus Brabourn, who hath talked something in a little pamphlet against the Lord Jesus Christ ... / By John Collings, B.D. and pastor of the church of Christ in Stephens parish in Norwich. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1655 (1655) Wing C5333; Thomason E832_2; ESTC R207514 201,020 319

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platform_n of_o church_n discipline_n print_v london_n 1653._o cap._n 14._o p._n 21._o n._n 2._o or_o suspend_v he_o front_v the_o holy_a fellowship_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o his_o offence_n be_v remove_v by_o penitent_a confession_n if_o he_o still_o continue_v obstinate_a they_o be_v to_o cast_v he_o out_o by_o excommunication_n i_o think_v here_o be_v also_o suspension_n grant_v precedaneous_a to_o and_o gradual_o distinct_a from_o excommunication_n there_o be_v only_o one_o thing_n to_o which_o i_o must_v speak_v a_o word_n or_o two_o wherein_o in_o our_o present_a practice_n we_o differ_v from_o other_o settle_a reform_a church_n as_o to_o the_o suspension_n of_o any_o who_o we_o since_o the_o late_a reformation_n admit_v to_o the_o holy_a table_n we_o agree_v both_o with_o other_o reform_a church_n with_o our_o own_o in_o time_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o with_o our_o brethren_n of_o the_o dissent_v party_n we_o will_v suspend_v none_o but_o after_o admonition_n for_o 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