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A09097 A conference about the next succession to the crowne of Ingland diuided into tvvo partes. VVhere-of the first conteyneth the discourse of a ciuill lavvyer, hovv and in vvhat manner propinquity of blood is to be preferred. And the second the speech of a temporall lavvyer, about the particuler titles of all such as do or may pretende vvithin Ingland or vvithout, to the next succession. VVhere vnto is also added a new & perfect arbor or genealogie of the discents of all the kinges and princes of Ingland, from the conquest vnto this day, whereby each mans pretence is made more plaine. Directed to the right honorable the earle of Essex of her Maiesties priuy councell, & of the noble order of the Garter. Published by R. Doleman. Allen, William, 1532-1594.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name. 1595 (1595) STC 19398; ESTC S114150 274,124 500

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vve may chance to haue occasion to handle the same agayne and more largely heerafter These poyntes toucheth Highintō thoughe diuers other he leaue vntouched vvhich are of much importāce for the resolusion as whether after the lyne extinguished of kinge Henry the 4. vvhich vvas the eldest sonne of Ihon of Gant ther should haue entered the line of lady Philippe the eldest daughter lawfully begotten of Blanch first wyfe of Ihon of Gant or els the race of Ihon Earle of Somersett yonger sonne by his third vvyfe which then was base borne but legetimated by parlament for of Phillip do come the kinges of Portugal and of Ihon came king Henry the seuenth And againe these pointes had byn to be disputed as vvel touching the succession to the dukedom of Lancaster alone as also to the crowne ioyncely all which articles shal seuerally afterward be handled in ther places and thus much of this booke More then these fower bookes I have not seene vvitten of his affaire though I haue hard of one made in Flanders in the behalfe of the Duke of Parma that is now vvho by his mother disceudeth of the same line of Portugal that the king of Spaine doth and as this book pretendeth if we respect the ordinary course of Inglish lawes in particuler mens inheritances he is to be preferred before the said king or any other of the howse of Portugal for that his mother descended of the yonger sonne and the king of the elder daughter of the king of Portugal and albeit according to the law of Portugal the king vvas adiuged next heyre to that crowne yet say they by our lawes of Ingland he cannot be vvhich after must be examined Thus sayth that book and he alleageth many reasons for the same as it hath bin told me for as I said I neuer came to haue a viewe of the vvhole booke but diuers of his arguments I haue seene laid together which I shal afterwards in place conuenient alleage vnto you vvith the answers censures and replies that the contrary parties do make therunto Diuers other papers notes and memories I haue seene also said he as wel touching the succession of those vvhom I haue named as of others for that Syr Richard Shelly who dyed some yeares a gone in Venice by the name of Lord prior of S. Iohns of Ingland had gathered diuers points touching these affayres many more then he had M. Francis Peto that dyed in Millan and vvas a very curious and wel readen man in genealogies as may appeare by sundry papers that I haue seene of his Their vvant not also diuers in Inglād who haue trauailed much in this busines and I haue had the perusing of some of their labors though I dare not discouer ther names lest therby I should hurt them vvhich vvere not conuenient But one great trouble finde I in them al that euery man seeketh to draw the whole water vnto his owne mill and to make that title alwayes most clere whom he most fauoreth and this vvith so great probability of reason and authority many tymes as it is hard to retayne a mās consent from that which is said vntil he haue read the reasons of the other party and this also is a great proofe of the wonderful ambibiguity and doubtfulnes which in this most important affaire is to be founde And by the way also I had almost forgotten to tel you how that of late I haue lighted vppō a certayne new discourse and treatise made in the behalfe of the king of Spaines eldest daughter whom he had by his wife Isabel the eldest sister of the last king of France vvhich Isabel and her daughter the infanta of Spaine called also Isabel are presumed to be the lawful heyres to the state of Britany and to al other states that by that meanes of Britany or otherwise by vvomen haue come to France or haue or may fal vppon a vvoman of the house of France as the states of Ingland and other states therunto annexed may for that they follow not the law salique of France and so this treatise proueth that by diuers vvayes and for sundry considerations this princesse of Spaine is also of the blood royal of Ingland and may among others be intituled to that crowne by a particuler title of her owne beside the pretence vvhich her father the king or her brother the prince of Spayne haue for them selues by the house of Portugal al vvhich reasons and consideratiōs I shal alleage afterward in ther place tyme or at least-wise the chiefe principal of them And to the end they may be vnderstoode the better as also the clearnes and pretentions of al the rest that haue interest in this affayre I shal first of al for a beginning and foundation to al the rest that shal or may be spoken heerafter set downe by way of historical narration al the discents of our Inglish kings and pretenders that maye important to this our purpose from the conquest vnto our tyme vvhich being cōpared vvith the tree it selfe of genealogies that shal be added in the end of this conference vvil make the matter more playne and pleasant to the reader OF THE SVCCESSION OF THE CROWNE OF INGLAND FROM THE CONQVEST VNTO the tyme of king Edward the third with the beginning of three principallinages of the English blood royal dispersed into the houses of Britanie Lancaster and Yorke CAP. II. NO man is ignorant said the lavvyer how William the Conqueror came to the crowne of Ingland vvhich vvas in deed by dynt of sword though he pretended that he vvas chosen by the vvill and testament of king Edward the confessor But howsoeuer this weare his posterity hath indured vntil this day and two and twenty princes of his race haue vvorne the Inglish crowne after him for the space of more then 5. hundreth yeares and how many more may yet do the same God only knoweth but if vve follow probability vve cannot vvant of them seing his blood is so dipersed ouer the vvorld at this day as by this declaration ensewing vvil appeare This king William according to Polidor and other chronicles of Ingland had by his vvyf Mathilda daughter of Baldwin Earle of Flanders foure sonnes and fiue daughters his eldest sonne vvas Robert vvhom he left duke of Normandie vvho vvas afterward depriued of that dukedome by his yonger and fowerth brother Henry vvhen he came to be king of Ingland His second sonne was Richard that dyed in his youth his third was William surnamed Rufus for that he vvas of redd heare and the fowerth vvas Henrv vvhich two last sonnes vvere both kings of England one after the other as the vvorld knoweth by the names of William the second and Henry the first The Conquerors daughters vvere first Cecilie that vvas a Nonne and the second Constantia that vvas marryed to Alayn surnamed fergant duke of Britanie and the third vvas Adela or Alis marryed
the longest liuer should haue al wheruppon the said Canutus tooke the tvvo children of king Edmond Ironside named Edmond and Edward and sent them ouer into Sweuelād which at that tyme vvas subiect also vnto him and caused them to be brought vp honorably of vvhich two the elder named Edmond dyed without issue but Edward vvas maried and had diuers children as after shal be touched Etheldred and his sonne Edmond being dead Canutus the Dane was admitted for king of England by the vvhole parlament consent side as hath bin said and this the third breache of lineal discent But this notwithstanding Alerud being slayne prince Edward was made king tanta publica laetitia saith Polidor vt certatim pro eius faelici principatu cuncti vota facercnt That is he vvas made king vvith such vniuersal ioy and contentment of al men as euery man contended who should pray and make most vowes to God for his happie reygne and according to this was the successe for he vvas a most excellent prince and almost miraculously he reygned with great peace and void of al war at home and a broad for the space of almost 20. yeares after so infinit broyles as had bin before him and insued after hym and yet his title by succession can not be iustified as you see for that his eldest brothers sonne was the aliue to wit prince Edward surnamed the outlaw vvho in this kinges reygne came into Ingland and brought his vvife and three lawful children with him to wit Edgar Margaret Christian but yet vvas not this good king Edward so scrupulous as to giue ouer his kingdome to any of them or to doubt of the right of his owne title vvhich he had by election of the common wealth against the order of succession This king Edward being dead without issue Polidor saith that the states made a great consultation whom they should make king and first of al it semeth they excluded him that was only next by propinquity in blood vvhich vvas Edgar Adelin fonne to the said prince Edward the outlaw now departed and nephew to king Edmond Ironside and the reason of this exclusion is alleaged by Polidor in thes vvordes is puet id aetatis nondum regno gubernando maturus erat That is he bing a child of so smale yeares vvas not ripe enough to gouerne the kingdome and then he saith that Harald sonne of Earle Goodwin by the daughter of Canutus the first proclaymed himselfe king and more ouer he addeth Non displicait omnino id factum populo qui plurimum spei in Haraldi virtute habebat itaque more maiorum sacratus est vvhich is this fact of Harald displeased not at al the people of Ingland for that they had great hope in the vertue of this Harald so vvas he annoynted and crowned according to the fassion of the anciēt kings of Ingland by which vvordes vve may fee that Harald had also the approbation of the realme to be king notwith standing that lytle Edgar vvas present as hath bin said so as this was the fourth breach of succession at this tyme. But in the meane space William Duke of Normandy pretended that he vvas chosen before by king Edward the Confessor and that the realme had giuen their consent therunto and that king Edward left the same testified in his last wil and testament and albert none of our Inglish authors do auow the same cleerly yet do many other forrayne writers hold it and it semeth very probable that some such thing had past both for that duke William had many in Ingland that did fauor his pretence at his entrance as also as Girard in his French storie saith that at his first comming to London he punished diuers by name for that they had broken their othes and promises in that behalfe And moreouer it appereth that by alleaging this title of election he moued diuers princes abroade to fauour him in that action as in a iust quarrel vvhich is not like they should haue done if he had pretended only a conquest or his title of consanguinity vvhich could be of no importance in the vvorld for that effect seing it was no other but that his grand father and king Edwards mother vvere brother and sister which could giue him no pretence at al to the succession of the crowne by bloode and yet vve see that diuers princes did assist him and among others the French chronicler Girard so often named before vvriteth that Alexander the second pope of Rome vvhos holines vvas so much estemed in those dayes as one Constantinus Afer wrote a booke of his miracles being informed by Duke William of the iustnes of his pretence did send him his benediction and a precious ring of gold vvith a hallowed banner by vvhich he gott the victory thus writeth Girard in his French chronicles and Antoninus Archbishop of Florence surnamed Sainct vvriting of this matter in his chronicles speaketh great good of William Cōqueror and commendeth his enterprise But howsoeuer this was the victory vve se he gat and God prospered his pretence and hath confirmed his of spring in the crovvne of Ingland more then 500. yeares together so as now accounting from the death of king Edmond Ironside vnto this man we shal finde as before I haue said in lesse then 50. yeares that 5. or 6. kings vvere made in Ingland one after another by only authority and approbation of the common wealth contrary to the ordinary course of lineal succession by propinquitie of blood And al this is before the conquest but if vve should passe any further downe we should finde more examples then before For first the two sonnes of the Conqueror himselfe that succeded after him to vvit william Rufus and Henry the first were they not both yonger brothers to Robert Duke of Normandie to whom the most part of the realme vvas inclined as Polydor sayth to haue giuen the kingdome presently after the Conquerors death as devv to him by succession notwithstanding that VVilliam for particuler displeasure against his elder sonne had ordeyned the contrary in his testament But that Robert being absent in the war of Hierusalem the holy and lerned man Lanfranke as he vvas accompted then Archbishop of Canterbury being deceaued vvith vaine hope of VVilliam Rufus good nature perswaded them the contrary who vvas at that day of high estemation authority in Ingland and so might induce the realme to do what he liked By like meanes gat Henry his yonger brother the same crowne afterwards to wit by faire promises to the people and by helpe principally of Henry Newborow Earle of warwick that dealt with the nobility for him and Maurice bishop of London with the cleargie for that Anselme Archbishop of Cantetbury vvas in banishment Besides this also it did greatly healpe his cause that his elder brother Robert to vvhom the crowne by right apperteyned vvas absent againe