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A14868 A discourse of English poetrie Together, with the authors iudgment, touching the reformation of our English verse. By VVilliam VVebbe. Craduate [sic]. Webbe, William.; Virgil. Bucolica. 1-2. English. 1586 (1586) STC 25172; ESTC S111629 51,720 84

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thou from idlenes and euer be stable Martiall a most dissolute wryter among all other yet not without many graue and prudent spéeches as this is one worthy to be marked of these fond youthes which intangle theyr wytts in raging loue who stepping once ouer shoes in theyr fancyes neuer rest plunging till they be ouer head and eares in their follie If thou wylt-eschewe bitter aduenture And auoyde the annoyance of a pensifull hare Set in no one person all wholly thy pleasure The lesse maist thou ioy but the lesse shalt thou smart These are but fewe gathered out by happe yet sufficient to shewe that the wise and circumspect Readers may finde very many profitable lessons dispersed in th●…●…orkes neither take any harme by reading such Poemes but good if they wil themselues Neuertheles I would not be thought to hold opinion that the reading of them is so tollerable as that there neede no respect to be had in making choyse of readers or hearers for if they be prohibited from the tender and vnconstant wits of children and young mindes I thinke it not without great reason neyther am I of that deuillish opinion of which some there are and haue beene in England who hauing charge of youth to instruct them in learning haue especially made choyse of such vn childish stuffe to reade vnto young Schollers as it shoulde seeme of some filthy purpose wylfully to corrupt theyr tender mindes and prepare them the more ready for their loathsome dyetts For as it is sayd of that impudent worke of Luciane a man were better to reade none of it then all of it so thinke I that these workes are rather to be kept altogether from children thē they should haue frée liberty to reade them before they be méete either of their owne discretion or by héedefull instruction to make choyse of the good from the badde As-for our Englishe Poetrie I know no such perilous péeces except a fewe balde ditties made ouer the Béere potts which are nothing lesse then Poetry which anie man may vse and reade without damage or daunger which indeede is lesse to be meruailed at among vs then among the olde Latines and Gréekes Considering that Christianity may be a state to such illecibrous workes and inuentions as among them for their Arte sake myght obtaine passage Nowe will I speake some what of that princelie part of Poetrie wherein are displaied the noble actes and valiant exploits of puissaunt Captaines expert souldiers wise men with the famous reportes of auncient times such as are the Heroycall workes of Homer in Gréeke and the heauenly verse of Virgils AEneidos in Latine which workes comprehending as it were the summe and grounde of all Poetrie are verelie and incon●…parably the best of all other To these though wee haue no English worke aunswerable in respect of the glorious ornaments of gallant handling yet our auncient Chroniclers and reporters of our Countrey affayres come most néere them and no doubt if such regarde of our English spéeche and curious handling of our verse had béene long since thought vppon and from time to time béene pollished and bettered by men of learning iudgement and authority it would ere this haue matched them in all respects A manifest example thereof may bée the great good grace and swéete vayne which Eloquence hath attained in our spéeche because it hath had the helpe of such rare and singuler wits as from time to time myght still adde some amendment to the same Among whom I thinke there is none that will gainsay but Master Iohn Lilly hath deserued moste high commendations as he which hath stept one steppe further therein then any either before or since he first began the wyttie discourse of his Euphues Whose workes surely in respecte of his singuler eloquence and braue composition of apt words and sentences let the learned examine and make tryall thereof thorough all the partes of Rethoricke in fitte phrases in pithy sentences in gallant tropes in flowing spéeche in plaine sence and surely in my iudgment I thinke he wyll yéelde him that verdict which Quintilian giueth of bothe the best Drators Demosthenes and Tully that from the one nothing may be taken away to the other nothing may be added But a more néerer example to prooue my former assertion true I meane y e méetnesse of our spéeche to receiue the best forme of Poetry may bée taken by conference of that famous translation of Master D. Phaer with the coppie it selfe who soeuer please with courteous iudgement but a little to compare and marke them both together and weigh with himselfe whether the English tongue might by little and little be brought to the verye maiesty of a ryght Heroicall verse First you may marke how Virgill alwayes ●…itteth his matter in hande with wordes agréeable vnto the same affection which he expresseth as in hys Tragicall exclamations what pathe●…all spéeches he frameth in his com fortable consolations howe smoothely hys verse runnes in his dreadfull battayles and ●…réery byckerments of warress howe bygge and boystrous his wordes sound and the like notes in all partes of his worke may be obserued Which excellent grace and comely kind of choyse if the translatour hath not hitte very neere in our course English phrase iudge vprightly wee wyll conferre some of the places not picked out for the purpose but such as I tooke turning ouer the Booke at randon When the Troyans were so tost about in tempestious wether caused by AEolus at AEunoes request and driuen vpon the coaste of Affrick with a very néere scape of their liues AEneas after hée had gone a land and kylled plenty of victuals for his company of Souldiours hée deuided the same among them and thus louinglie and swéetely he comforted them AEn Lib. 1. et dictis moerentia pectora mulcet O socij neque ignari sumus ante malorum O pa●… grau●…ora dabit deus his quoque finem Uos et scyllaeam rabiem penitusque sonantes Accestis scopulos vos et cyclopea saxa Experti reuocate animos maestumque timorem Mittite forsan et haec olim meminisse i●…uabit Per varios casus per tot discrimina rerum Tendimus in Latium sedes vbi fata quietas Ostendunt illic fas regna resurgere troiae Durate et vosmet rebus seruate secundis Talia v●…ce refert curisque ingentibus aeger Spem vuliu simulat premit altum corde dolor●…m Translated thus And then to chéere their heauy barts with these words he bim bent O Mates quoth he that many a woe haue bidden and borne ere thvs Worse haue we séene and this also shall end when Gods wyll is Through Sylla rage ye wott and through the roaring rocks we past Though Cyclops shore was full of feare yet came we through at last Plucke vppe your harts and driue from thence both feare and care away To thinke on this may pleasure be perhapps another day By paynes and many a daunger sore by sundry chaunce we wend To