the same were particularly enacted by the Authority of Parliament And that the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell may adde to or repeale the said Ordinances from time to time as they shall see cause That such other Propositions as shall be made for the City for their farther safety welfare and Government and shall be approved of by both Houses of Parliament may be granted and confirmed by Act of Parliament Vpon consideration of which Propositions His Majesty sent the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton with this Message of the 13th of December HIs Majesty hath seriously considered your Propositions II. and findes it very difficult in respect they import so great an alteration in Government both in Church and State to returne a particular and positive answer before a full debâ—te wherein thosâ— Propositions and all the necessary Explanations and reasons for assenting dissenting or qualifying and all inconveniences and mischiefes which may ensue and cannot otherwise be so well foreseen may be discussed and weighed His Majesty therefore proposeth and desireth as the best expedient for Peace That you will appoynt such number of Persons as you shall think fit to Treat with the like number of Persons to be appoynted by His Majesty upon the said Propositions and such other things as shall be proposed by His Majesty for the preservation and defence of the Protestâ—nt Religion with due regard to the ease of tender Consciences as His Majesty hath often offered The Rights of the Crowne The Liberty and Property of the Subject and the Priviledges of Parliament And upon the whole matter to conclude a happy and blessed Peace Vnto which Message this Answer of the 27th of December was returned to His Majesty May it please your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects of both Kingdomes have considered of Your Maiesties Message III. of the 13. of December 1644. sent by the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton directed to the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and to the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland now at London And doe in all humblenesse returne this Answer That we doe consent there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace But find that it will require some time to resolve concerning the Instructions and manner of that Treaty And therefore that Your Majesty might not be held in suspence touching our readinesse to make use of any opportunity for attayning such a blessed and happy Peace in all Your Majesties Dominions We would not stay Your Majesties Messengers till we did resolve upon all thâ—se particulars which we will take into our serious consideration and present our humble desires to Your Majesty with all convenient speed Westminster the 20 â—h of Decemb. 1644. Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore Signed in the name and by warrand of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland LOWDON William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House Assembled in Parliament And afterwards upon the 18th of January following Sir Peter Killigrew brought this farther Answer to His Majesty May it please Your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects the IV. Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland do make our further answer to Your Majesties Message of the 13th of December last 1644. Concerning a Treaty for Peace as followeth We do consent that there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace between your Majesty and your humble and Loyall Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes And for the present have appoynted Algernon Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembrook Mountgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bâ—sill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepoint Sir Henry Vane Junior Oliver St Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew Edmund Prideaux for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster And Iohn Earle of Lowdon Lord Chancellor of Scotland Archibald Marquisse of Argyle Iohn Lord Maitland Iohn Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnston Sir Charles Erskin George Dundas Sir Iohn Smith M r Hugh Kennedy and M r Robert Barclay for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland together with Master Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion who or any Ten of them there being alwayes some of the Parliaments of both Kingdomes are appointed and authorized to meet at Vâ—bridge on what day Your Majesty shall be pleased to set downe before the last day of this present Ianuary with such Persons as Your Majesty shall appoint under Your Signe Manuall for that purpose And the number of the persons to Treat not to exceed seventeen on either part unlesse the persons named for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland now not here or any of them shall come and then Your Maiesty may have the like number if you please There to Treat upon the Matters conteined in the Propositions we lately sent unto Your Majesty according to such Instructions as shall be given unto them And the Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland to be first Treated on and agreed and the time for the Treaty upon the said Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland not to exceed Twenty dayes and for the things mentioned in Your Message to be propounded by Your Maiesty when the Persons sent by Your Maiesty shall communicate the same to the Committees appointed by us as aforesaid We have directed them to send the same to us That they may receive our Instructions what to doe therein And to the end that the Persons that are to be sent from Your Majesty and from us with their retinue not exceeding the number of one Hundred and Eight on either part may repaire to Vxbridge stay there and returne at their pleasure without interruption That mutuall safe Conducts be granted to the said Persons according to the severall Lists of their Names Signed by Order of the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England as Westminster Signed in the name and by warrant of the Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland LOWDON Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House in the Parliament of England Whereunto His Majesty returned an Answer inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex dated the 21 of January which Letter and Answer were as followeth The Letter My Lord I Am commanded by His Majesty to returne this His answer V. Together with this inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex His Majestie sent a safe Conduct for their Commissioners and their retinue to the Message lately sent Him from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland by Sir Peter Killigrew I
Lord Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Knight one of Our principall Secretaries of State Sir Edward Hide Knight Chancellour and Vnder-Treasurer of Our Exchequor Sir Richard Lane chiefe Baron of Our said Exchequor Sir Thomas Gardiner Sir Orlando Bridgeman M Iohn Ashburnham and M. Ieffrey Palmer together with Doctor Richard Steward upon these Propositions concerning Religion to be Our Commissioners touching the premisses And do hereby give unto them and to any ten or more of them full power and authority to meet and on Our part to Treat with Algernoun Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Basill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pieirepoynt Esquires Sir Henry Vane the yonger Knight Oliver S. Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux Esquires for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and Iohn Earle of Lowdon Lord Chancellour of Scotland Archibald Marquesse of Argile Iohn Lord Maytland Iohn Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnston Sir Charles Erskin George Dundaâ— Sir Iohn Smith M. Hugh Kennedy and M. Robert Barclay for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland together with M. Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion or with any ten or more of them upon and touching the matters contained in the said Propositions Answers and Messages or any other according to the manner and agreement therein specified or otherwise as they or any ten or more of them shall think fit and to take all the premisses into their serious considerations and to compose conclude and end all differences arising thereupon or otherwise as they or any tenne or more of them in their wisdomes shall think fit And upon the whole matter to conclude a safe and well grounded Peace if they can And whatsoever they or any ten or more of them shall do in the premisses We doe by these presents ratifie and confirme the same Given at Our Court at Oxford the Eight and Twentieth day of Ianuary in the Twentieth yeare of Our Raigne 1644. Their Commission to the English Commissioners Die Martis 28. Ianuary 1644. BEE it Ordained by the Lords and Commons assembled in XI Parliament That Algernoun Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bazill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepont Sir Henry Vane Junior Oliver St. Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux shall have power and authority and are hereby authorized to joyne with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland together with Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion only To Treat with the Lord Duke of Richmond Marquisse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Lord Dunsmore Lord Capell Lord Seymour Sir Christopher Hatton Sir Iohn Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Sir Edward Hide Sir Richard Lane Sir Orlando Bridgeman Sir Thomas Gardiner M. Iohn Ashbornham M. Ieffery Palmer or any tenne of them upon the Propositions formerly sent to His Maiesty for a safe and well grounded Peace from His Maiesties humble and Loyall Subiects assemblâ—d in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes together with Dr Steward upon the Propositions concerning Religion only and upon his Maiesties Propositions according to such Instructions as have been given to them or as they from time to time shall receive from both Houses of Parliament Iohn Browne Cler. Parliamentor Their Commission to the Scots Commissioners AT Edinburgh the saxteint day of Iulij The Èeir of God XII M. Vj c fourtye four Èeires The Estaistes of Parliament presentlie conveined be vertew of the last act of the last Tarliament haldin by His Majesty and thrie Estaites in Anno. 1641. Considdering that this Kingdome efter all uther meanes of supplicationnes Remonstrances and sending of Commissionaris to His Majesty have bein used without success Did enter into a solemne league Covenant with the Kingdom ParliameÌ„t of England for Reformationne defence of Religionne the honor happines of the King the peace safety of the thrie Kingdoms of Scotland England Ireland And ane Treattie aggried upon ane Armie and Forces raised and sent out of yis Kingdom for these endis Quhairupone the Conventionne of Estaistes of this Kingdome the nynt of Iannuary last being desirous to use all good and lawfull meanes that Treuth and Peace might be established in all His Majesties Dominions with such a blessed Pacificationne betwixt His Maiesty and His Subiectis as might serve most for His Maiesties trew honor and the safety and happines of His people Granted Commissione to Iohn Erle of Lowdounne heigh Chancellor of Scotland Iohne Lord Mai t and than and Èit in England Sir Archibald Iohnestounne of Wariestounne ane of the Lordis of Sessionne and Maister Robert Barclay now in England to repaire to England with power to thame or any twa of yame to endeavoure the effectuating of ye foirsaides endis conforme to the Commmissione and instructiones than giving to thame as the Commissione of the dait foirsaid proportis Lyke as the saides Iohne Lord of Maitland Sir Archibald Iohnestounne and Maister Robert Barclay have evir since attendit in England in the discharge of the foirsaid Commissione Qunhill lately that Sir Archibald Iohnestounne returned with some Propositiones prepaired by the Committie of both Kingdomes to be presented to the Estaites of Scotland and to both howss of the Parliament of England and by thame to be revised and considderit and than by mutuall advyse of both Kingdomes to be presented for ane safe and weill grounded peace Qwhilkies Propositiones ar revised and considderit and advysed be the Estaites of Parliament now conveined and their sense and resultis drawin up yrupone Whiche Commissione is to endure while the comming of the Commissionars underwrittin And heirewith also considderin That the endis for the whilk the samen was granted ar not Èit effectuate and that the Propositiones with ye Estaites thair resultis yrupone ar to be returned to ye Parliament of England Thairfore the Estaites of Parliament be thir presentis gives full powar and Commissione to the said Iohne Erle of Lowdonne Lord heigh Chancellor of yis Kingdome Archibald Marqueis of Argyle and Iohne Lord Balmerino for the Nobility Sr Archibald Iohnestounne of Wariestonne Sir Charles Erskyne of Cambuuskenneth and Maister George Dundas of Maner for the Barrones Sr Iohne Smyth of Grottâ—ll Proveist of Edenburgh Hew Kennedy Burges of Air and Master Robert Barclay for the Burrowes the thrie Estates of yis Kingdom and to Iohne Lord Maitland supernumerarie in this Commissione or to any thrie or mae of the haill number thair being ane of ilk Estate as Commissionaris from the Estaites of Parliament of this Kinkdome to repaire to the Kinkdome of England sick of them as ar not thair already and with powar to thame or any thrie or mae of the whole number thair being ane of ilk Estaite to endeavour the
have likewise sent your Lordship His Majesties safe Conduct for the persons desired and also a List of the names of those His Majesty hath appoynted to Treat for whom together with their Retinue His Majesty hath desired a safe Conduct The Answer inclosed HIs Majesty having received a Message by Sir Peter Killigrew from the Lords and Commons assembled in the VI. Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners oâ— the Parliament of Scotland concerning a Treaty returns this answer That His Majesty doth very willingly consent that there be a Treaty upon the Matters contained in the Propositions lately sent unto him in such manner as is proposed and at the place appoynted in the said Message and to that purpose His Majesty will send the Duke of Richmond the Marquesse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Earle of Chichester the Lord Capell the Lord Seymour the Lord Hatton the Lord Culpeper Secretary Nicholas M. Chancellour of the Exchequer the L. Cheife Baron Lane Sr Orlando Bridgman S â— Thomas Gardiner M. John Ashburnham M. Ieffery Palmer together with Dr Steward Clerk of His Majesties Closet upon the Propositions concerning Religion to meet with the persons mentioned in the said Message at Vxbridge on wednesday night the 29th of this instant Ianuary the Treaty to begin the next day Which persons or any ten of them shall be sufficiently authorised by His Majestie to Treat and conclude on His Majesties part And to the end that the persons aforesaid and their Retinue may repaire to Vxbridge stay there and returne at their pleasure without interruption or goe or send during their abode there to His Majestie as often as occasion shall require His Majesties desires that a safe Conduct may accordingly be sent for the said persons and their Retinue according to a List of their names herewith sent And then also inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex His Majestie sent Propositions to be Treated upon on His Maiesties part which Letter and Propositions follow My Lord I am commanded by His Majestie to send these enclosed Propositions VII Prince Ruperts Letter to your Lordship to be presented to the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland to the end that there may be as little losse of time as is possible but that the same may be treated on assoone as may be thought convenient after the entry upon the Treaty His MAjESTIES Propositions to the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland for a safe and well grounded Peace 1. THat His Majesties owne Revenue Magazines VIII His Majesties Propositions Townes Forts and Ships which have been taken or kept from Him by force be forthwith restored unto Him 2. That whatsoever hath been done or published contrary to the knowne Lawes of the Land or derogatory to His Majesties Legall and knowne Power and Rights be renounced and recalled That no seed may remaine for the like to spring out of for the future 3. That whatsoever illegall Power hath been claimed or exercised by or over His Subjects as imprisoning or putting to death their Persons without Law stopping their Habeas Corpusses and imposing upon their Estates without Act of Parliament c. either by both or either House or any Committee of both or either or by any persons appointed by any of them be disclaimed and all such persons so committed forthwith discharged 4. That as His Majesty hath alwayes professed His readinesse to that purpose so He will most cheerfully consent to any good Acts to be made for the suppression of Popery and for the firmer setling of the Protestant Religion established by Law As also that a good Bill may be framed for the better preserving of the Book of Common-Prayer from scorne and violence And that another Bill may be framed for the ease of tender Consciences in such particulars as shall be agreed upon For all which His Majesty conceives the best expedient to be that a Nationall Synod be legally called with all convenient speed 5. That all such persons as upon the Treaty shall be excepted and agreed upon on either side out of the Generall Pardon shall be tryed Per Pares according to the usuall course and knowne Law of the Land and that it be left to that either to acquit or condemne them 6. And to the intent this Treaty may not suffer interruption by any intervening Accidents That a Cessation of Armes and free Trade for all His Majesties Subjects may be agreed upon with all possible speed Given at the Court at Oxford the 21th day of Jan. 1644. The Earle of Essex upon receipt hereof returned to Prince Rupert together with a safe Conduct this Letter of the 25. of Ianuary Sir I Am commanded by both Houses of the Parliament of England and desired by the Commissioners of the Kingdome of IX Scotland to desire your Highnesse to let His Majesty know That they doe agree that their Committees doe begin the Treaty aâ— Vxbridge on Thursday the 30th of this January with the Persons appointed by His Majesty on the matters contained in the Propositions lately sent unto His Majesty in such manner as was proposed And their Committees shall have Instructions concerning the Propositions sent from His Majesty in your Highnesse Letter And you will herewith receive a safe Conduct from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England for the Persons that are appointed by His Majesty to come to Vxbridge to Treat on the Propositions for a safe and well grounded Peace with their Retinue in a List hereunto annexed Sir I am Westminster 25th Jan. 1644. Your Highnesse humble Servant ESSEX Thursday the 30th of Ianuary all the Commissioners named by His Maiestie and Commissioners named by the two Houses of Parliament in England and the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland did meet at Vxbridge where their Commissions were mutually delivered in and read and are as followeth His MAjESTIES Commission CHARLES R. WHEREAS after severall Messages sent by us to the X. Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster expressing Our desires of Peace certaine Propositions were sent from them and brought unto Vs at Oxford in November last by the Earle of Denbigh and others and upon Our Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their returns to Vs it is now agreed That there shall be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace to begin at Vxbridge on Thursday the 30th of this instant Ianuary as by by the said Propositions Answers Messages and Returnes in writing may more fully appeare We do therefore hereby appoynt assigne and constitute James Duke of Richmond and Lenox William Marquisie of Hâ—rtford Thomas Earle of Southampton Henry Earle of Kingston Francis Earle of Chichester Francis Lord Seymour Arthur Lord Capell Christopher Lord Hatton John
effectuating of ye foirsaides endis the concluding of the Propositions with the Estaites th aire results thairupon And all suche uyr matteris conceruing the good of bothe Kingdomes as ar or all be from time to time committed unto thame be the Estaites of yis Kingdome or Committies thairof according to the instructiones givin or to be givin to the Commissionaris abovenameit or their quuorums And for this effect The Estaites Ordeanes Iohne Erle of Lowdonne Chancellor Iohne Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnstounne of Wariestounne Sir Charles Erskyne of Cambuskenneth and Hew Kennedy repaire with all dilligence to the Kingdome of England to the effect before rehearsit conforme to this Commissione and instructiones As also the Estaites Ordeanes ye saides ArchibaldMarqueis of Argyle M. George Dundas of Maner and Sir Iohne Smyth Proveist of Edenburgh to repaire to ye Kingdome of England with all sick conventencie as the occasione of ye businesse shall require or as they sall be commandit ather be the Committie from the Parliament heir they being in Scotland or be the Committie with the Army they being in England And Ordeanes thame to joyne with the remanent Commissionaris to the affect above mentionat conforme to the Commissionâ— and instructiones givin or to be givin to the Commissionais or thair quuorums thair anent be the Estaites of this Kingdome or Committies yrof And the Estaites of Parliament be thir presents haldis and sall halde firme and stable all and what summ evir thinges the Commissionaris abovenameit or any thrie or mae of thame sall doe conforme to this Commisionne and to the instructionnes given or to be given to thame Extractit furthe of the butkes of Parliament be me Sir Alexander Gibsone of Dunâ—ie Knyt Clerk of His Majesties Registers and Rollis under my signâ— and subscriptionne Mannuall Alexander Gibsonne Cler. Regist After the Commissions read their Commissioners delivered to His Majesties Commissioners this paper Ianuary the 30. WEE are directed by Our Instructions to Treat with XIII your Lordships upon the Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland three daies a peice alternis vicibus during the space of twenty dayes from the 30 of Ianuary beginning first with the Propositions of Religion and accordingly we shall deliver unto your Lordships a Paper to morrow morning upon those Propositions Accordingly the Treaty did proceed upon those subjectâ— three daies a piece Alternis vicibus beginning with that of Religion upon Friday the last of Ianuary and so continuing Saturday the first and Monday the third of February which was after resumed Tuesday the 11 Wednesday the 12 and Thursday the 13 of February and again the two last daies of the 20. And the like course was held touching the Militia and Ireland But because the passages concerning each subject severally will be more clearly understood being collected and disposed together under their severall heads therefore all those which concerne Religion the Militia and Ireland are put together And in like manner the passages preparatory to the Treaty concerning the Commissions the manner of the Treaty and a seditious Sermon made the first day appoynted for the Treaty And such as hapned in the Treaty touching His Majesties Propositions The demands of farther time to Treat and other emergent passages which have no Relation to those of Religion the Militia and Ireland are in like manner digested under their severall heads with their particular dates And first those which concerne the Commissions Friday the last of Ianuary His Majesties Commissioners delivered unto Their Commissioners this paper Vlt. Ianuary WEE having perused the power granted to your Lordships XIV in the Paper delivered by the Earle of Northumberland and finding the same to relate to instructions we desire to see those instructions that thereby we may know what power is granted to you and we ask this the rather because by All their Commissioners were not then come to Vxbridge the Powers we have seen we doe not find that your Lordships in the absence of any one of your number have power to Treat Their Answer 31. Ianuary BY Our Instructions we or any tenne of us whereof some of either XV. House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland to be present have power to Treat with your Lordships Their farther Answer Vlt. Ianuary VVHereas your Lordships have expressed unto us a desire XVI of seeing our Instructions to know what Power is granted us and this the rather because you say you find not by what you have seen that in the absence of any one of our number we have power to Treat To this we returne in Answer that since the Paper already delivered in by us declaring that by our Instructions any tenne of us whereof some of either House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland to be present had power to Treat with your Lordships hath not given you satisfaction in the particular of the Quorum We shall send unto the two Houses of Parliament to have the Quorum inserted in the Commission and doe expect the returne of it so amended within two or three daies when we shall present it unto your Lordships But as for your desire in generall to see our Instructions it is that for which we have no Warrant nor is it as we conceive at all necessary or proper for us so to doe for that the Propositions upon which we now Treat have been already presented from the Parliaments of both Kingdoms unto His Majesty and whatsoever is propounded by us in order unto them is sufficiently warranted by what both Parliaments have done in the passing and sending of those Propositions and by the Commissions authorising us to Treat upon them already shewn unto your Lordships so as there can be no need to shew any other power Accordingly on Saturday the first of February they did deliver their Commission for the English Commissioners renewed as followeth Die Sabbatis primo Febr. BE it Ordained by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament that Algernon Earle of Northumberland Philip XVII Earle of Pembrook and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bazil Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepont Sir Henry Vane junior Oliver St Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux shall have power and authority and are hereby authorized to joyne with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland together with Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion only or any tenne of them Whereof some of either House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland are to be present To treat with the Lord Duke of Richmond the Marquisse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Lord Dunsmore Lord Capell Lord Seymour Sir Christopher Hatton Sir Iohn Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Sir Edward Hyde Sir Richard Lane
heare and determine all differences that may occasion the same according to the Treaty and to do further accordingly as they shall respectively receive Instructions from both Houses of Parliament in England or the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland and in the intervalls of Parliaments from the Commissioners for the preservation of the publique Peace 3. To raise and joyne the Forces of both Kingdomes to resist all Forreigne Invasion and to suppresse any Forces raised within any of the Kingdomes to the disturbance of the publique Peace of the Kingdomes by any authority under the great Seale or other warrant whatsoever without consent of both Houses of Parliament in England and the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland or the said Commissioners of that Kingdome whereof they are Subjects and that in those cases of joynt concernment to both Kingdomes the Commissioners to be directed to be there all or such part as aforesaid to act and direct as joynt Commissioners of both Kingdomes 4. To order the Warre of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th of Aprill and to order the Militia and conserve the peace of the Kingdome of Ireland 18. That His Majesty give his assent to what the two Kingdomes shall agree upon in prosecution of the Articles of the large Treaty which are not yet finished 19. That by Act of Parliament all Peeres made since the day that Edward Lord Littleton then Lord Keeper of the Great Seale deserted the Parliament and that the said Great Seale was surreptitiously conveyed away from the Parliament being the 21 day of May 1642. And who shall be hereafter made shall not sit or Vote in the Parliament of England without consent of both Houses of Parliament and that all Honour and Title conferred on any without consent of both Houses of Parliament since the 20th day of May 1642. being the day that both Houses declared That the King seduced by evill Counsell intended to raise Warre against the Parliament be declared nul and voyd The like for the Kingdome of Scotland those being excepted whose Patents were passed the Great Seale before the 4th of Iune 1644. 20. That by Act of Parliament the Deputy or chiefe Governour or other Governours of Ireland be nominated by both Houses of Parliament or in the intervalls of Parliament by the Commissioners to continue during the pleasure of the said Houses or in the intervalls of Parliament during the pleasure of the aforementioned Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Houses at their next sitting And that the Chancellor or Lord Keeper Lord Treasurer Commissioners of the Great Seale or Treasury Lord Warden of the Cinque-Ports Chancellors of the Exchequer and Dutchee Secretaries of State Judges of both Benches and of the Exchequer of the Kingdomes of England and Ireland be nominated by both Houses of Parliament to continue quà m diu se bene gesserint and in the intervalls of Parliament by the aforementioned Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Houses at their next sitting The like for the Kingdom of Scotland adding the Justice Generall and in such manner as the Estates in Parliament there shall thinke fit 21. That by Act of Parliament the Education of Your Majesties Children and the Children of Your Heires and Successors be in the true Protestant Religion and that their Tutors and Governors be of knowne integrity and be chosen by the Parliaments of both Kingdomes or in the intervalls of Parliaments by the aforenamed Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Parliaments at their next sitting And that if they be Male they be Married to such onely as are of the true Protestant Religion if they be Female they may not be married but with the advice and consent of both Parliaments or in the intervalls of Parliament by their Commissioners 22. That your Majesty will give your Royall assent to such wayes and meanes as the Parliaments of both Kingdomes shall think fitting for the uniting of the Protestant Princes and for the entire restitution and Reestablishment of Charles Lodwick Prince Elector Palatine His Heires and Successors to His Electorall Dignity Rights and Dominions Provided that this extend not to Prince Rupert or Prince Maurice or the Children of either of them who have been the Instruments of so much bloudshed and mischiefe against both Kingdomes 23. That by Act of Parliament the concluding of Peace or Warre with Forraigne Princes and States be with advice and consent of both Parliaments or in the intervalls of Parliaments by their Commissioners 24. That an Act of Oblivion be passed in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes respectively relative to the Qualifications in the Propositions aforesaid concerning the joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes with the exception of all Murderers Theâ—ves and other Offendors not having relation to the Warre 25. That the Members of both houses of Parliament or others who have during this Parliament been put out of any Place or Office Pension or benefit for adhering to the Parliament may either be restored thereunto or otherwise have Recompence for the same upon the humble desire of both Houses of Parliament The like for the Kingdome of Scotland 26. That the Armies may be Disbanded at such time and in such manner as shall be agreed upon by the Parliaments of both Kingdomes or such as shall be authorised by them to that effect 27. That an Act be passed for the granting and confirming of the Charters Customes Liberties and Franchises of the City of London notwithstanding any Non-user Mis-user or Abuser That the Militia of the City of London may be in the ordering and Government of the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell assembled or such as they shall from time to time appoint whereof the Lord Major and Sheriffs for the time being to be there And that the Militia of the Parishes without London and the Liberties within the weekly Bills of Mortality may be under Command of the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell of the said City to be ordered in such manner as shall be agreed on and appoynted by both Houses of Parliament That the Tower of London may be in the Government of the City of London and the Chiefe Officer and Governour thereof from time to time be nominated and removeable by the Common-Councell That the Citizens or forces of London shall not be drawn out of the City into any other parts of the Kingdome without their own consent and that the drawing of their Forces into other parts of the Kingdome in these distracted times may not be drawn into example for the future And for prevention of Inconveniencies which may happen by the long intermission of Common-Councels It is desired that there be an Act that all By-Lawes and Ordinances already made or hereafter to be made by the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell assembled touching the calling continuing directing and regulating of the same shall be as effectuall in Law to all intents and purposes as if
Sir Orlando Bridgeman Sir Thomas Gardiner Mr Iohn Ashburnham and Mr Ieffery Palmer or any tenne of them upon the Propositions formerly sent to His Majesty for a safe and well grounded Peace from His Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms Together with Doctor Stuard upon the Propositions concerning Religion only And upon His Majesties Propositions according to such Instructions as have been given to them or as they from time to time shall receive from both Houses of Parliament Io. BROWNE Cler. Parliam The same last of Ianuary their Commissioners delivered to His Majesties Commissioners this paper Ianuary 31. HAving considered your Commission and Power from His Majesty given in last night by your Lordships we find that XVIII you are authorized to treat only upon certain Propositions sent to His Majesty from the Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster and upon His Majesties Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their returnes to his Majesty Wherein we observe that the Propositions sent to His Maiesty from His Maiesties Loyall Subiects assembled in the Parliaments of both His Kingdoms are mentioned to be sent to His Maiestie from the Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster and upon His Maiesties Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their Returnes to His Maiesty that a Treaty is to begin And wherein We also observe you have no Power thereby to Treat upon the Propositions sent to His Maiesty from His humble and Loyall Subiects Assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms and the Answers Messages and Propositions sent from His Maiesty to the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland then at London and their returnes to His Maiestie We desire those defects may be cleared and speedily amended The King's Commissioners Answer 31. January WE conceive Our Power being to Treat upon the Propositions XIX brought by the Earle of Denbigh and others and those Propositions being sent from the Parliaments of both Kingdomes there need no mention of the Parliaments of both Kingdomes in that place but that Our power is ample to Treat with your Lordships upon the whole both by expresse words and by other generall words in the Commission which give power to Treat upon those Propositions or any other which generall words are not observed by your Lordships in your paper And Our power is to Treat with the Lords and others authorized for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland by name yet since you insist upon it it shall be altered by Tuesday next And in the meane time if your Lordships please We desire * The Papers intended are the Propositions concerned Religion which were not then delivered the papers promised yesterday in the paper delivered by the Earle of Northumberland may be delivered unto Vs that there may be as little losse of time as may be Their Reply 31. Ian. IN answer to your Lordships Paper concerning your Power to XX. Treat we are content to proceed in the Treaty with your Lordships in expectation that the Defects mentioned by us in our Paper shall be supplyed by Tuesday next On Munday the third of February the Kings Commissioners did deliver their Commission renewed as followeth CHARLES R. WHereas certaine Propositions were sent unto us from XXI the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and from the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland which were brought unto Vs at Oxford in November last by the Earle of Denbigh and others and upon Our Answers c. as followeth verbatim in His Majesties former Commission Touching the manner of the Treaty The KING's Commissioners Paper 31. January WE desire to the end there may be a greater Freedom XXII in debate which We conceive will much conduce to the happy conclusion of this Treaty that nothing may be understood to be concluded on either side but what is delivered in Writing according as your Lordships have begun And we declare That what shall be delivered in writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty break off upon any other Proposition or part of any other Proposition Their Answer 31. Ianuary WEE shall deliver our Demands and Answers in Writing XXIII and desire your Lordships to doe the like The King's Commissioners Reply 1. Feb. WEE desire a full Answer of our Paper that nothing XXIV shall be taken as agreed upon but what is put in writing and your Concurrence in declaring that what shall be delivered in writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition shall not be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty breake off Their further Answer 1. February ACcording to our former Paper we shall deliver our demands XXV and answers in writing and we desire your Lordships to doe the like and nothing shall be taken as agreed upon but what is put in writing And we shall acquaint the Houses of Parliament that you have declared what shall be delivered in Writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty break off 3. February IN answer to your Lordships Paper formerly delivered we doe XXVI declare that what shall be delivered in Writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty breake off upon any other Propositions or part of any Proposition Touching the Seditious Sermon The KING's Commissioners Paper 31. Ianuary WEE have certaine Information from divers Persons XXVII It was on Thursday being Market day and the first day of the Meeting present in Vxbridge Church yesterday that there was then a Sermon Preached by one Mr Love in which were many passages very Scandalous to His Majesties Person and derogatâ—ry to His Honour stirring up the people against this Treaty and incensing them against Vs telling them That we come with hearts full of Bloud and that there is as great distance between this Treaty and Peace as between Heaven and Hell or words to that effect with divers other Seditious passages both against His Majesty and this Treaty We know His Majesties hearty desire of a happy and well grounded Peace such as may be for Gods Honour and the good of all His Subjects as well as himselfe And we that are entrusted by His Commission come with cleare Intentions to serve Him in it according to our Consciences and the best of our Iudgements And this being Preached in your Quarters where we are now under safe Conduct We desire your Lordships to consider how much this may reflect upon our Safety how much it may prejudice and blast the blessed hopes of this Treaty and how just offence and distrust it may beget in His Majesty
And therefore We desire Iustice against the Man that he may have exemplary punishment Their Answer 31. January TO the Paper delivered in by your Lordships this day concerning the Information received of severall Scandalous XXVIII passages Preached in a Sermon in Vxbridge Church by one Mr Love We doe returne this Answer That the said Mr Love is none of our Retinue nor came hither by any privity of ours That we conceive it most reasonable and agreeable to the businesse we are â—ow upon that all just occasions of offence on either part be avoyded And as it hath been our desire so it shall be our endeavour to take the best care we can to prevent all prejudices upon the present Treaty which may blast the blessed hopes thereof or may beget any iust offence and distrust in His Majestie and shall be as tender of the safety of your Lordships persons according to the safe Conduct as of our owne We shall represent your Lordships Paper concerning this businesse if your Lordships so desire unto the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England who will proceed therein according to Justice The King's Commissioners Reply 1. February VVE insist upon our former desire concerning the Sermon XXIX Preached by M. Love and must referre the way of doing Iustice to your Lordships and if your Lordships are not satisfied that such Words as we have charged him with were spoken by him we are ready to produce our proofe thereof to your Lordships Their further Answer 1. February VVE will represent both your Lordships papers concerning XXX M. Love unto the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster who will proceed therein according to Justice In the next place according to the Order before mentioned do follow the passages and Papers concerning RELIGION Their Paper 31. Jan. ACcording to the * The Paper intended is that before of 30. Ian. no. 13. paper delivered by us to your Lordships XXXI yesternight we do now offer these Propositions following which concerne Religion That the Bill be passed for Abolishing and taking away of all Arch-Bishops Bishops c. according to the third Proposition That the Ordinances concerning the Calling and sitting of the The Propositions here intended are those before mentioned on theiâ— part sent by the E. of Denbigh and others to Oxford And the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy is in the Appendix no. 3. Assembly of Divines be confirmed by Act of Parliament That the Directory for Publique Worship already passed both houses of the Parliament of England And the Propositions concerning Church Governement hereunto annexed and passed both Houses be enacted as a part of Reformation of Religion and uniformity according to the fifth Proposition That His Majesty take the Solemne League and Covenant and that the Covenant be enjoyned to be taken according to the second Proposition To this was annexed the following Paper of the 31. January That the Ordinary way of dividing Christians into distinct Congregations and most expedient for edification is by the respective bounds of their dwellings That the Minister and other Church-officers in each particular Congregation shall joyne in the Government of the Church in such manner as shall be established by Parliament That many particular Congregations shall be under one Presbyteriall Government That the Church be Governed by Congregationall Classicall and Synodicall Assemblies in such manner as shall be established by Parliament That Synodicall Assemblies shall consist both of Provinciall and Nationall Assemblies The King's Commissioners Paper 1. February HAving considered your Lordships Paper containing the XXXII Propositions concerning Religion with the paper annexed and finding the same to contain absolute Alterations in the Government both of the Ecclesiasticall and Civile State We desire to know whether your Lordships have Power to Treat and debate upon the said Propositions and upon debate to recede from or consent to any alterations in the said Propositions if we shall make it appeare to be reasonable so to do or whether your Lordships are bound up by your Instructions to insist upon the Propositions without any alteration Their Answer 1. Feb. OVr Paper given in to your Lordships concerning Religion XXXIII doth contain no alterations but such as are usuall in a time of Reformation and by the Wisdome of the Parliaments of both Kingdoms are judged necessary at this time for setling Religion and Peace And as by our Commissions and Papers formerly shâ—wed your Lordships we have made known our Power to Treat upon them so are we ready by debate to shew how reasonable they are And that there will be no reason to expect that we should alter or recede from them But as for your demand of our shewing what farther power we have by our Instructions It is that we have no warrant to doe as we have already signified to your Lordships by a former Paper The KING's Commissioners Paper 1. Feb. YOur Lordships first Proposition in the Paper concerning XXXIV Religion referring to the third Proposition sent to His Majesty we find that referres to the Articles of the late Treaty of the daâ—e at Edinburgh 29. Nov. 1643. and to the joynt Declaration of both Kingdoms We desire your Lordships we may see those Articles and Declarations and your Lordships second Proposition in that paper referring to the Ordinances concerning the calling and sâ—ttiâ—g of the Assembly of Divines We desire to see those Ordinances Their Answer 1. Feb. ACcording to your Lordships desire in the * Meaning the next present Paper third Paper We XXXV now deliver in the Articles of the late Treaty of the date at Edinburgh 29 of November 1643. and the * This joynt Dâ—claration is already printed But the Articles being not Printed are in the Appendix n o 4. joynt Declaration of both Kingdoms And we shall speedily deliver to your Lordships the Ordinances concerning the calling and sitting of the Assembly of Divines The KING's Commissioners Paper 1. Feb. VVEE desire to know whether the Propositions which XXXVI we have received from your Lordships touching Religion be all we are to expect from you upon that Subject Their Answer 1. Feb. THere are other things touching Religion to be propounded XXXVII by us unto your Lordships upon the Propositions formerly sent unto His Maiesty from the Parliaments of both Kingdoms which we shall in due time give in unto your Lordships But we doe first desire your Answer to the Paper touching Religion given in yesterday that some good progresse may be made therein before the three daies assigned to treat upon Religion in the first place doe expire The KING's Commissioners Paper 1. Feb. VVEE desired to know whether the Propositions XXXVIII we formerly received from your Lordships concerning Religion were all that would be offered concerning that Subject because we thought it very necessary since so great alterations are proposed by you to have a full view of the whole
Offered if any other doubts yet remaine by conference to cleare them which still we are ready to doe And we have heard nothing just or reasonable for that Cessation It will be made evident that the necessities which by your Lordships were made excuses for the Cessation were created on purpose to colour the same and we are compelled by your Lordships paper to let you know that the Committees of Parliament sent into Ireland to endeavour to supply their necessities were discountenanced by the principall instruments for that Cessation and when they had taken up 2000l upon their personall security for the Army there they were presently after commanded from the Councell by a Letter brought thither from His Majesty by the Lord Ormonds Secretary And when the Officers of the Army were contented to subscribe for Land in satisfaction of their Arreares it was declared from His Majesty that He disapproved of such subscriptions whereby that course was diverted And we doe affirme that what ever summes of money raised for Ireland were made use of by both Houses of Parliament were fully satisfied with advantage and as we are informed before the Bill mentioned in our former paper was refused by His Majesty And for the Regiments of Horse and Foot mentioned by your Lordships to be raised for Ireland and imployed otherwise by the Houses of Parliament It is true that Forces were so designed and when the Money Armes and other Provisions were all ready and nothing wanting but a Commission from His Majesty for the Lord Wharton who was to Command them the same could not be obtained which was the cause those Forces did not goe thither and when twelve Shipps and six Pinnaces were prepared with 1000 or more land Forces for the service of Ireland and nothing desired but a Commission from His Majesty the Shipps lying ready and staying for the same were three weeks together at 300l a day charge yet the same was denyed though often desired And where your Lordships seem to imply that the provisions seized by His Maiesties Forces were going for Coventrey it was made known to His Maiesty that the same were for Ireland And your Lordships must needs conceive that the papers you delivered to us being but Extracts and for that you deny us so to compare them with the Originalls as to have the names of the Persons by whom they were Written it is altogether unreasonable for us to give any credit to them it being manifest by this and our former papers and debates that the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland is both unjust and unlawfull We therefore insist on our demands concerning Ireland as apparently good for His Maiesties Subjects there and for reducing that Kingdom to His Maiesties Obedience Before His Maiesties Commissioners gave answer to this last paper they being also to answer the rest of the demands concerning Ireland for their necessary information touching some doubts that did arise upon those demands and the Articles of the Treaty of the 6th of August concerning Ireland and Ordinances delivered with them the Kings Commissioners gave in these severall papers The King's Commissioners first Paper 19. February IN the eight Article of the Treaty for the comming of the CL. Scots Army into England dated 29. Nov. 1643. at Edenbourgh delivered to us by your Lordships among the papers for Ireland and desired by the 12th Proposition to be confirmed by Act of Parliament It is agreed that no Cessation nor any Pacification or agreement for Peace whatsoever shall be made by either Kingdome without the mutuall advice and consent of both Kingdomes or the Committees in that behalfe appoynted who are to have full power for the same in case the Houses of the Parliament of England or the Parliament or Convention of Estates of Scotland shall not sit We desire to know whether that Article extend to any Cessation Pacification or Agreement in Ireland The Answer 19. Febr. WE did in answer to your Lordships Paper of the first of CLI February upon the Propositions concerning Religion deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November 1643. mentioned by your Lordships and not among the Papers for Ireland to which it hath no relation The King's Commissioners Reply 20. February YOur Lordships did deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November CLII. 1642. to us with the Papers concerning Ireland and on the 7th day of this instant February and not upon the first of February upon the Propositions concerning Religion Their Answer 20. Feb. WHen your Lordships peruse your Papers you will rest CLIII satisfied with our Answer of the 19th of this instant to your first Paper that day given to us for it will appeare by your Lordships 3d Paper of the first of February and our Paper given to your Lordships in answer of it that the Treaty of the date at Edenbourgh 29 Novemb. 1643. Was delivered to your Lordships on the first of February upon the Proposition of Religion and not upon the 3d of February with the Papers concerning Ireland The Article of the Treaty of the 29. of November 1643. which occasioned these Papers being by their Papers thus acknowledged not to concerne Ireland and so not pertinent to that subject the Kings Commissioners insisted no farther The King's Commissioners second Paper 19. February BY the 13th Proposition it is demanded that an Act be CLIV. passed to settle the prosecution of the Warre of Ireland in both Houses of Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advices of both Kingdoms We desire to know Whether if the two Kingdoms shall not agree in their advice touching that Warre each have a Negative voyce or whether the Scots Commander in chiefe of the Forces in Ireland may manage that Warre in such case according to his own discretion Their Answer 19. Febr. IN answer to your Lordships second paper the prosecution of CLV the Warre of Ireland is to be setled in the two Houses of the Parliament of England but is to be managed by a joynt Committee of both Kingdoms wherein the Committee of each Kingdom hath a Negative voyce but in case of disagreement the Houses of Parliament of England may prosecute the Warre as they shall think fit observing the Treaty of the sixth of August 1642. between the two Houses and the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland and the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. delivered to your Lordships formerly The King's Commissioners third paper 19. February BY the 20th Proposition in the Intervals of Parliament the CLVI Commissioners for the Militia have power to nominate the Lord Deputy of Ireland and other Officers aâ—d Judges there We desire to know whether that power be limited to the Commissioners of both Kingdoms or only to the Commissioners for England and whether in such cases the Commissioners in Scotland shall vote as single persons Their Answer 19. Feb. THe power of the Commissioners in the Intervals of Parliament CLVII to nominate the Lord Deputy
Powder no strength of serviceable Horse no visible means by Sea or Land of being able to preserve that Kingdom and that though the Winds had in many dayes often formerly stood very faire for accessions of supplies forth of England the two Houses having then and ever since the full Command of those Seas yet to their vnexpressible greif after full six moneths waiting and much longer patience and long suffering they found their expectations answered in an inconfiderable quantity of provisions viz. 75 Barrells of Butter and 14 Tunn of Cheese being but the 4th part of a small Vessells-loading which was sent from London and arrived there on the 5th of May. which was not above 7 or 8 days provisions for that part of the Army in and about Dublin No monâ—y or victuals other then that inconsiderable proportion of victuals having arrived there as sent from the Parliament of England or from any other forth of England for the use of the Army since the beginning of Novem. before And besides these whereof we have Copies to your Lordships it was represented to Hiâ— Majesty by Petition from that Kingdom That all meanes by which comfort and life should be conveyed to that Gasping Kingdom seemed to be totally obstructed and that unlesse timely releife were afforded His Loyall Subjects there must yeeld their fortunes for a Prey their lives for a sacrifice and their Religion for a scorn to the mercylesse Rebels Vpon all which deplorable passages represented by persons principally interessed in the managing of the affaires of that Kingdom and the War there in which number were Sr William Parsons Sr Iohn Temple Sr Adam Loftus and Sr Robert Merideth persons of great estimation with your Lordships to which we could add many other advices and letters from severall men of repute and quality but that we will not trouble your Lordships with repetition of private advices we cannot think but your Lordships are now satisfied that the necessities of that Kingdom which were the ground of the Cessation there were reall and not pretended and therefore for excuses we leave them to them who stands in need of them and we desire your Lordships to consider as the distracted condition of this Kingdom was what other way could be imagined for the preservation of that Kingdom then by giving way to that Cessation and though it is insisted on in your Lordships paper that some Protestants in Vlster Munster and Connaught who have refused to submit to that Cessation have yet subsisted yet your Lordships well know these were generally of the Scottish Nation who had strong Garrisons provided and appointed to them and were in these parts of Ireland neere the Kingdom of Scotland whence more ready supplies of Victuals might be had then the English could have from England and for whose supply as His Majesty hath bin credibly informed and we beleive that your Lordships know it to be true speciall care was taken when the English Forces and other English Protestant Subjects there were neglected whereby they were exposed to apparent destruction by Sword and Famine and we cannot but wonder at the assertion that His Majesties Forces have as much as lay in them endeavoured to prevent those supplies for Ireland and at the mention of the intercepting those provisions near Coventry with His Majesties own knowledge and direction whereas as we have formerly acquainted your Lordships it was not known to His Majesty that those provisions which were taken neere Coventry going thither when His Majesties Forces were before it were intended for Ireland till after the seisure there of when it was impossible to recover them from the Souldiers which might have bin prevented if a safe Conduct had bin desired through His Maiesties Quarters which we are assured He would have readily granted for those or any other supplies for that Kingdom but was never asked of Him and as there is no particular instance of any other provisions for Jreland intercepted by His Majesties Forces but those neere Coventry which were considerable so we can assure your Lordships that when His Maiestie was in the greatest wants of all provisions and might have readily made use of some provided for Ireland lying in Magazines within His Quarters yet he gave expresse order for the sending them away which was done accordingly and would haue supplied them further out of His own store if he had bin able and no man can be unsatisfied of His Maiesties tender sence of the miseries of His Protestant Subiects in Jreland when they shall remember how readily he gave His Royall assent to any Proposition or Acts for raising of men monyes and Armes for them that he offered to passe over in Person for their releife which His Maiesties Subiects of Scotland approved and declared it to be an argument of care in His Maiestie and if that had proceeded it might in possibility have quenehed the flames of that unhappy Rebellion as long before it miâ—ht probably haue bin prevented if the Army of Jrish Natives there had bin suffered to have bin transported out of that Kingdom as was directed by His Maiestie What Provisions are Iately sent or are now sending to Ireland from the two Houses we know not But His Majesty hath been informed that even those provisions are designed in pursuance of the late Treaty concerning Ireland made with His Subjects of Scotland without His Majesties Consent and onely for such who have deelared themselvea against His Majesties Ministers and in opposition to that Cessation to which many of them had formerly consented though they have since upon private Interest and the incouragement and solicitations of others opposed the same and therefore His Majesty cannot look upon those Supplied as a support for the Warre against the Irish Rebels or as a repayment of those monyes which being raised by Acts of Parliament for that Warre have been formerly diverted to other uses of which Money 100000l at one time was issued out for the payment of the Forces under the Earle of Essex And as to dâ—verting the Forces provided for the reducing of Ireland though we conceiv'd it ought not to be objected to His Maiesty considering the Forces under the Command of the Lord Wharton raised for Ireland had been formerly diverted and imployed against him in the Warre here in England yet it is evident they were not brought over till after the Celsation when they could no longer subsist there And that there was no present use for them and before those Forces brought over there was an attempt to bring the Scottish Forces in Ireland as likewise divers of the English Officers there into this Kingdome and since the Earle of Leven their Generall and divers Scotch Forces were actually brought over To the Allegations that many Persons of all sorts have forsaken the Kingdome rathen then they would submit to that Cessation we know of none But it is manifest that divers who had left that Kingdom because they would have been famished if they
That their Commissioners should have Instructions to Treat upon them Instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions for setling a safe and well grounded Peace And if you have any touching the same we desire to have a sight of them Their Answer I. Feb. WE have not yet received Instructions concerning His CLXXXI Maiesties Propositions and shall therefore acquaint the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England with the desires expressed in that Paper who having taken those Instructions into their consideration before our comming from them will send them to us in time convenient After upon the third of February His Majesties Commissioners delivered this Paper concerning His Majesties sixt Proposition for a Cessation of Armes 3. February WE desire to know whether your Lordships have received CLXXXII any Instructions concerning that Proposition of His Majesties for a Cessation and if your Lordships have not received any that you will endeavour to procure Authority to Treat thereupon which we have power to doe and conceive it very necessary that during the time we are endeavourinâ— to establish a blessed and happy Peace the issues of blood may be stopped in this miserable Kingdom and His Maiesties oppressed and Languishing Subjects have some earnest and prospect of the Peace we are endeavouring by Gods blessing to procure for them To this no particular Answer was given The King's Commissioners Paper 10. February HAving now spent three daies severally upon each of CLXXXIII your Lordships three Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland we desire to know whether your Lordships have received any instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions that we may prepare our selves to Treat upon them when your Lordships shall think fit Their Answer 11. Feb. VVE have received Instructions concerning His Maiesties CLXXXIV Propositions And when the Houses of Parliament shall be satisfied in the good Progresse of the Treaty upon their Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland they will give time for the Treaty upon those Propositions sent by His Maiesty But there was not any time given to Treat upon His Majesties Propositions Touching further time for continuing or reviveing the Treaty and His Majesties Returne to Westminster after Disbanding those Papers were delivered The King's Commissioners Paper 14. Febr. VVE have this day received directions from His Majesty CLXXXV to move your Lordships that you will endeavour to procure an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the daies limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Majesties Letter which Letter we herewith deliver to your Lordships The Letter mentioned in the last Paper from His Majesty to His Commissioners is this RIght Trusty c. Having received from you a CLXXXVI particular accompt of your proceedings in the Treaty and observing thereby how impossible it is within the daies limited to give such full Answers to the three Propositions you are now upon as you might if upon Consideration had of the rest of the Propositions you could clearely see what fruit such Answers will produce in order to a blessed Peace for the present and the future good and happinesse of this Kingdom We have thought it fit to advise you That you propose and desire of the Commissioners with whom you Treat that they will procure such farther time to be allowed after the expiration of the Twenty daies as may be sufficient for you upon a full understanding one of another upon the whole to make such a Conclusion that all Our Subjects may reap the Benefit good men pray for Deliverance from these bloody distractions and be united in Peace and Charity And if you think fit you may communicate this Our Letter to them And so we bid you heartily farewell Given at Our Court at Oxford 13. Feb. 1644. By His MAJESTIES Command GEORGE DIGBY To Our Right Trusty c. the Lords and others Our Commissioners for the Treaty at Vxbridge Their Answer 14. Feb. COncerning the paper delivered by your Lordships for addition CLXXXVII of time for the Treaty We can give no other answer then that we will send Copies of His Maiesties Letter and of the paper unto the Houses of Parliament and after signification of their pleasure we will give further answer Afterwards on the 18th of Feb. they delivered this paper 18. February YOur Lordships may please to take notice that in the 20 dayes CLXXXVIII appointed to Treat upon the Propositions concerning Religion Militia and Ireland the first Thursday and three Sundayes are not to be included The King's Commissioners paper 20. February BY our paper delivered to your Lordships the 14th of this CLXXXIX moneth we moved your Lordships to endeavour an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Majesties Letter which letter we then delivered to your Lordships whereunto your Lordships then returned answer that you would send Copies of His Majesties Letter and of our paper to the Houses of Parliament and after signification of their pleasure you would give farther Answer we now desire to know whether there may be an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Maiesties said letter and what time may be added Their Answer 20. Feb. YOur Lordships paper of the 14th of this moneth for an addition CXC of time for this Treaty together with His Maiesties Letter concerning the same were sent by us to the Houses of Parliament who * See their Paper before 11. February no. 185. as we have already acquainted your Lordships have declared That if they shall be satisfied in the good progresse of the Treaty upon the Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland will give time for the Treaty upon the Propositions by His Majesty but farther then this have not as yet signified their pleasures unto us The King's Commissioners Paper 20. February HAving now spent 18 dayes with your Lordships in the CXCI. Treaty upon Religion the Militia and Ireland besides the present satisfaction we have given your Lordships in those particulars we having offered that further consideration and order be taken therein by His Majestie and the two Houses of Parliament and your Lordships having proposed many important things in the said severall particulars to be framed setled disposed by the two Houses before a full Agreement can be established we propose to your Lordships whether the two dayes remaining may not be best spent towards the satisfying your Lordships in those 3 Propositions and the procuring a speedy blessed Peace upon finding out some expedient for His Majesties repaire to Westminster that so all differences may be composed and this poor Kingdom be restored to it's Ancient happines and security and to that purpose if your Lordships shall think fit we are willing to Treat with your Lordships concerning the best meanes whereby all
and pay unto all and every Arch-Bishop Bishop Deane Sub-deane Arch-Deacon Chanter Chancellour Treasurer Sub-Treasurer Succentor Sacrist â—rebendary Cannon Cannon Residentiary Pettie Cannon Vicars Chorall Choristers old Vicars and new Vicars and other Officers and persons belonging unto or now imployed in or about the said Cathedrall or collegiate Churches such yearely Stipends and Pensions for so long time and in such manner as by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled shall be ordered dirâ—cted and appointed And shall dispose of all and singular the aforesaid Mannors Lands Tithes Appropriations Advowsons Tenements Hereditaments and other the Premisses and of every part and parcell thereof and of the Revenues Rents Issues and profits thereof to the uses intents and purposes above and hereafter expressed that is to say for a competent maintenance for the suâ—port of such a number of preaching Ministers for the service of every Caâ—heâ—rall and collegiate Church and His Majesties free Chappell of Windsor as by the Lords and Commons shall be ordered and appointed And likâ—wise for the maintenance of preaching Ministers throughout the Kingdom of Eâ—gland Dommion of Wales and Town of Barwâ—â—k in such places where such maintenance is wanting and for a proportionable allowance for and towards the reparation of the said Cathedrall and collegiate Churches in such manner and forme and to such persons and for such other good uses to the advancement of true Religion and the maintenance of Piety and Learning as by this or any other Act or Acts of Parliament now or hereafter to be made shall be set down or declared And be it further enacted by the Authority aforesaid that all Leases Guifts Grants Conveyances Assurances and Estates whatsoever hereafter to be made by the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peeter Malbourne Esqu the Survivors and Survivor of them or the greater part of them his and their Heires and Assignes of any the Mannors Lands Tenements or Hereditaments within or by this Act shall come or be limited or disposed of unto the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peeter Malbourne Esquire other then for the Terme of one and Twenty yeares or three Lives or some other Terme of yeares determinable upon one two or three Lives and not above from the time as any such Lease or Grant shall be made or granted whereupon the accustomed yearely Rent or more shall be reserved and payable yearely during the said Terme whereof any former Lease is in being and not to be Expired surrendred or ended within three yeares after the making of such Lease shall be utterly voyd and of none effect to all Intents Constructions and purposes any thing in this Act to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding Provided neverthelesse where no Lease hath been heretofore made nor any such Rent hath been reserved or payable of any the Lands Tenements or Hereditaments in this Act limited or disposed of unto the said Sir Williâ—m Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohâ— Packer Esqu Peter Malbourne Esqu that in such case it shall be lawfull for the said Sir William Roberts Knigâ—t Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peter Malbâ—urne Esqu the Survivors and Survivor of them or the greater part of them his and their Heires to make any Lease or state for the Terme of one and Twenty yeares or three Lives or some other Terme of yeares determinable upon one two or three Lives and not above taking such Fine as they in their Judgements shall conceive indifferent and reserving a reasonable Rent not being under the third part of the clear yearely value of the Lands Tenements or Hereditaments contained in such Lease And it is further Declared to be the true intent and meaning of this Act That all and every the Lessees Farmors and Tenants of all and every the said Persons and Corporations whosâ— Offices or places are taken away by this Statute now having holding or enjoying any Estate Terme or Interest in possession by himselfe his under Tenants or Assignes of or in any Mannors Lands Tenements Appropriations or other Hereditaments whatsoever shall and may be preferred in the taking and renuing of any Estates Leases or Grants of any such Mannors Lands Tenements or Hereditaments before any other Person the said Lessees Farmors or Tenants or other Parties interessed as aforesaid desiring the same and giving such Fines Rents and other considerations for the same as by the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Peter Malbourne Esquires or the Survivors or Survivor of them or the major part of them his or their Heires or Assignes shall be thought and held just and reasonable Provided also and be it enacted by the Authority aforesaid that all and singular Revenues Rents Issues Fees Profits Summes of Money and allowances whatsoever as have heretofore been and now ought to be paid disposed or allowed unto or for the maintenance of any Grammer Schoole or Schollars or for or towards the Reparation of any Church Chappell High-way Causey Bridge Schoole-house Almes-house or other charitable use payable by any the Corporations or Persons whose Offices or places are taken away by this Act or which are chargeable upon or ought to issue out of or be paid for or in respect of the said premisses or any of them shall be and continue to be paid disposed and allowed as they were and have been heretofore any thing in this present Act to the contrary thereof notwithstanding And to the intent and purpose the Parliament may be certainly and clearly informed of the premisses to the end the same may be distributed applied imployed to and for such pious and godly uses and purposes as is intended and herein declared Be it ordained and enacted that the Lord Keeper of the Great Seale of England for the time being shall by vertue of this Act have full Power and Authority and is hereby required to award and issue forth severall Commissions under the Great Seale of England into all and every the Counties and Cities with in the Kingdome of England and Dominion of Wales to be directed unto such and so many Persons as bâ— the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled shall be nominated assigned and appointed thereby authorizing and requiring thâ—m or any five or more of them and giving them full Power and â—uthority by the Oathes of good and lawfull men as by all other good and lawfull wayes and meanes to inquire and find out what Mannors Castles Lordships Granges Messuages Lands Tenements Meadowes Leasues Pastures Woods Rents Reversions Services Parsonages appropriate Tithes Oblations Obventions Pensions
joyntly made use of with the Publique Faith of the Kingdom of England for the present taking up of two hundred thousand pounds sterling in the Kingdom of England or else where For the speedy procuring of the said Hundred Thousand pounds sterling as aforesaid As also a considerable summe for the satisfying in good proportion the Arreares of the Scottish Army in Ireland 8. That no Cessation nor any Pacification or Agreement for Peace whatsoever shall be made by either Kingdom or the Armies of either Kingdom without the mutuall advice and Consent of both Kingdoms or their Committees in that behalf appointed who are to have full Power for the same in case the Houses of the Parliament of England or the Parliament or convention of Estates of Scotland shall not sit 9. That the Publique Faith of the Kingdome of Scotland shall be given to their Brethren of England That neither their entrance into nor their continuance in the Kingdome of England shall be made use of to any other ends then are expressed in the Covenant and in the Articles of this Treaty And that all matters of difference that shall happen to arise between the Subjects of the two Nations shall be resolved and determined by the mutuall advice and consent of both Kingdomes or by such Committees as for this purpose shall be by them appointed with the same power as in the precedent Article 10. That in the same manner and upon the same conditions as the Kingdome of Scotland is now willing to ayde and assist their Brethren of England the Kingdome of England doth oblige themselves to ayd and assist the Kingdome of Scotland in the same or like cases of streights and extremities 11. Lastly it is agreed and concluded That during the time that the Scottish Army shall be imployed as aforesaid for the defence of the Kingdome of England There shall be fitted out as Men of Warre Eight Ships whereof sixe shall be of Burthen betwixt one hundred and Twenty and two hundred Tonne the other between three and foure hundred Tonâ—e whereof two shall be in Lieu of the two Ships appointed by the Irish Treaty All which shall be maintained at the charge of the Kingdome of England to be imployed for the defence of the Coast of Scotland under such Commanders as the Earle of Warwick for the time of his being Admirall shall nominate with the approbation of the Committees of both Kingdomes which Commanders shall receive from the said Earle generall Instructions that they doe from time to time observe the directions of the Committees of both Kingdomes The Ordinance for calling the Assembly of Divines An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament for the calling of an Assembly of Learned and Godly Divines and others to be consulted with by the Parliament for the setling of the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England and for vindicating and clearing of the Doctrine of the said Church from false aspertions and interpretations WHereas amongst the infinite blessings of Almighty V. God upon this Nation none is or can be more deare unto us then the purity of our Religion and for that as yet many things remaine in the Liturgy Discipline and Government of the Church which do necessarily require a further and more perfect Reformation then as yet hath been attained and whereas it hath bin declared and resolved by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament that the present Church government by Arch-bishops Bishops their Chancellors Commissaries Deanes Deanes and Chapters Arch-deacons and other Ecclesiasticall Officers depending upon the Hierarchy is evill and iustâ—y offensive and burthensome to the Kingdom a great impedimeâ—t to Reformation and growth of Religion and very preiudicialâ— to the State and government of this Kingdom and thâ—â— therefore they are resolved that the same shall be taken away and that such a government shall be setled in the Church aâ— may be most agreeable to Gods holy word and most apt to proâ—ure and preserve the peace of the Church at home and neerer agreement with the Church of Scotland and other reformed Churches abroad and for the better effecting hereof and for the vindicating and clearing of the doctrine of the Church of England from all false calumnies and aspersions It is thought fit and necessary to call an Assembly of Learned Godly and judicious Divines who together with some Members of both the Houses of Parliament are to consult and advise of such matters and things touching the premises as shall be proposed unto them by both or either of the Houses of Parliament and to give their advice and counsell therein to both or either of the said Houses when and as often as they shall be thereunto required Be it therefore ordained by the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled That all and every the persons hereafter in this present Ordinance named that is to say Algernon Earle of Northumberland William Earle of Bedford Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Henry Earle of Holland Edward Earle of Manchester William Lord Viscount Say and Seale Edward Lord Viscount Conway Philip Lord Wharton Edward Lord Howard of Estr John Selden Esqu Francis Rows Esqu Edmund Prideaux Esqu Sr Henry Vane Knight senior Iohn Glyn Esqu Recorder of London Iohn White Esqu Bouldstrode Whitlocke Esqu Humphrey Salloway Esqu M. Serjcant Wild Oliver Saint-John Esqu His Majesties Sollicitor Sr Benjamen Rudyard Knight Iohn Pym Esq Sir John Clotworthy Knight Iohn Maynard Esqu Sir Henry Vane Knight junior William Pierpoint Esqu William Wheeler Esqu Sir Thomas Barrington Knight Walter Young Esqu Sir John Evelin Knight Herbert Palmer of Ashwell Batchelor in Divinity Oliver Boles of Sutton Batchelor in Divinity Henry Wilkinson of Waddesdon Batchelor in Divinity Thomas Valentine of Chalfont-Giles Batchelor in Divinity D William Twiss of Newbury William Raynor of Egham Mr. Hannibal Gammon of Maugan Mr. Iasper Hickâ— of Lawrick Dr. Joshua Hoyle late of Dublin in Ireland William Bridges of Yarmouth Thomas Wincop of Ellesworth Doctor in Divinity Thomas Goodwin of London Bâ—tchelor in Divinity Iohn Ley of Budworth in Cheshire Thomas Case of London Iohn Pyne of Bereferrers Mr. Whidden of Mooreton Dr. Richard Love of Ekington Dr. William Gouge of Blackfriers London Dr. Ralph Brownerigg Bishop of Exeter Dr. Samuel Ward Master of Sidney Colledge Iohn White of Dorchester Edward Peale of Compton Stephen Marshall of Finchingfild Batchellor in Divinity Obediah Sedgewicke of Cogshall Batchellor in Divinity M. Carter Peter Clerk of Carnaby William Mew of Estington Batchellor in Divinity Richard Capell of Pitchcomb Theophilus Bathurst of Overton Watervile Phil. Nye of Kimbolton D. Brocket Smith of Barkway D. Cornelius Burges of Watford John Greene of Pencombe Stanley Gower of Brampton-Bryan Francis Taylor of Yalding Tho. Wilson of Otham Antho. Tuckney of Boston Batchellor of Divinity Thomas Coleman of Bliton Charles Herle of Winwicke Richard Herricke of Manchester Richard Cleyton of Showell George Gibbs of Ayleston D. Calibute Downing
or any thing therein contained shall not give unto the persons aforesaid or any of them nor shall they in this assemblâ— assume to exercise any Iurisdiction Power or Authority Ecclesiasticall whatsoever or any other Power then is herein particularly expressed The Votes or Orders delivered with it Die Mercurii 5. Iulii 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled VI. That it shall be propounded to the Assembly to Morrow at their meeting to take into their Consideration the Tenne first Articles of the 39 Articles of the Church of Englanâ— to free and Vindicate the Doctrine of them from all Aspersions and false interpretations Iovis 6. Iulii 1643. Some generall Rules for the Assembly directed by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled 1. THat two Assessors be joyned to the Prolocutor to supply his place in case of Absence or Infirmity 2. Two Scribes to be appoynted to set downe all proceedings and these to be Divines who are not Members of the Assembly viz. Mr Henry Rowberry and Mr Adoniram By feild 3. Every Member at his first entrance into the Assembly shall make a serious and solemne Protestation not to maintain any thing but what he believes to be Truth and to embrace Truth in sincerity when discovered to him 4. No Resolution to be given upon any Question on the same day wherein it is first Propounded 5. What any man undertakes to prove as necessary he shall make good out of the Scriptures 6. No man to proceed in any dispute after the Prolocutor hath enjoyned him silence unlesse the Assembly desire he may goe on 7. No man to be deemed to enter his dissent from the Assembly and his Reasons for it in any poynt after it hath first been debated in the Assembly And thence if the dissenting party desire it to be sent to the Houses of Parliament by the Assembly not by any particular Man or Men in a private way when either House shall require it 8. All things agreed on and prepared for the Parliament to be openly Read and allowed in the Assembly and then offered as the Iudgement of the Assembly if the Major part Assent Provided that the opinion of any Persons dissenting and the Reasons urged for it be annexed thereunto if the dissenters require it together with the Solutions if any were given in the Assembly to those Reasons Jovis 6. Iulii 1643. I A. B. doe seriously and solemnly in the presence of Almighty God that in this Assembly whereof I am a Member I will not maintain any thing in matters of Doctrine but what I think in my Conscience to be Truth or in point of Disciâ—line but what I shall conceive to conduce most to the glory of God and the good and Peace of his Church Veneris 15. Sept. 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled That it be referred to the Assembly of Divines to set forth a Declaration of the Reasons and Grounds that have induced the Assembly to give their Opinions that this Covenant may be taken in poynt of Conscience Eodem Die ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled that it be referred to the Committee formerly appointed to Treat with the Scotch Commissioners to Treat with them about the manner of taking the Covenant in both Kingdoms Mercurii 22. August 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled that it be prâ—pounded to the Assembly of Divines to consider of the Doctrine of the Nine next Articles of the â—9 Articlâ—s of the Church of England to cleare and vindicate the same from all Aspersions and false interpretations The Articles of the sixt of August 1642. ARTICLES of the Treaty concerning the Reducing of the Kingdome of Ireland to the Obedience of the Kings Majesty and Crowne of England agreed upon between the Commissioners for Scotland authorized by Hiâ— Majesty and the Parliament of that Kingdome and the Commissioners for England authorized by His Majesty and the Parliament of that Kingdome at Westminster the sixt day of August 1642. FIrst The Scottish Commissioners out of the sense of that duty VII which the Kingdome of Scotland owes to His Majesty and the true affection they beare towards the Kingdome of England being willing to contribute their best assistance for the speedy reliefe of those distressed parts in Ireland which lye nearest the Kingdome of Scotland Have in the name of that Kingdome made offer of Ten Thousand Men to be imployed in that Service And for a further Testimony of their Zeale to His Majesties Service and Brotherly respect to the Kingdome of England have declared that the Kingdome of Scotland will upon their owne Charge Levy and Transport these Men. Secondly Because the Kingdome of Scotland are to send over with their Army the number of six thousand Muskets and foure thousand Pikes with such Canon and Ammunition as shall be fitting for the service It is agreed that foure thousand Muskets and two thousand Pikes shall be presently sent by the Kingdom of England into the Kingdom of Scotland and delivered at Lâ—â—th As also that the residue of the said ten thousand Armes and ten thousand Swords and Belts shall be delivered there at the first of August next And that as many Canon and Field-Peeces of the same bore weight and mettle shall be carryed into Scotland upon their demand as they shall Transport into Ireland for thâ— sâ—â—vice of that Kingdome And that the said whole Armes and Ammunition shall remaine in Scotland untill the returne of the Scâ—ttish Army from Ireland At which time the same shall be restored to the Kingdome of England the Kingdome of Scotland receiving satisfaction for such of their Armes and Ammunition as shall be spent or lost in the service of Ireland As also that there shall be presently sent over from England and delivered to the Scottish Army in Ireland for the defence of the Province of Vlster sixe Peeces of Demy Canon of the Ball of Foure and twenty pound weigh◠〈◊〉 their Equipage Thiâ—â—â—y It is agreed That there shall be two Ships of Warre presâ—â—tâ—â—â—â—nt by the Kingdome of England to Lochryan Lamalâ—c◠〈◊〉 Patrick or Air to Guard and waft over the Scottish Souldiâ—â—s And that the said Ships shall attend at the Ports in Irâ—â—and for serving the Scottish Army in going and returning betwixt the Coasts and keeping the Passages cleare as they shall receive Orders from the chiefe Commanders of the Scottish Army for the time being according to Instructions received or to be received by the Master of these Ships from the Lord Admirall or Commissioners of the Admiralty for the time being to that purpose Fourthly It is agreed That there shall be Levyed and furnished by the Kingdome of England ten Troopes of sufficient and well Armed Horsemen consisting of sixty in a Troop besides the Officers And that there shall be a Commissary Generall a Serjeant-Major and a Quarter-master appointed over them which shall joyne and remaine with the Body
of the Scottish Foot and shall receive and obey the Orders and Instructions of the Commanders of the Scottish Army And that there shall be presently advanced the summe of twelve Hundred Pounds sterling for the Levying of a Troop of one hundred Horsemen in Scotland besides the Officers to be a Guard to the Generall of the Scottish Army Fifthly It is agreed That the Commanders and Souldiers of the Scottish Army shall have such Pay respectively as the Commanders and Souldiers of the English Army have according to a List presently agreed upon by the Commissioners of both Kingdomes As also that the Officers of that Army shall have such allowance for their Waggons as is contained in the said List Sixtly It is agreed That the Townes and Castle of Carickfergus and Colrayne shall be put into the hands of the Scottish Army to be places for their Magazines and Garrisons and to serve them for Retreat upon occasion And that the Magistrates and Inhabitants thereof shall be ordeyned to carry themselves to the Commanders of the said Army as is fitting and ordinary in such Cases And that the said Townes and Castle shall remain in the Scots hands untill the Warre shall end or that they shall be discharged of that service Like as the Commissioners for the Kingdom of Scotland do promise in the Puâ—lique Faith of that Kingdom to redeliver the said Townes and Castle to any having Commission from the King and Parliament of England as also the Commissioners for the Kingdom of England do promise in the name and on the Publique Faith of that Kingdom That Payment shall be made to the Kingdom of Scotland and their Army of all dues that shall arise upon this present Treaty and that when the Scottish Army imployed in the service of Ireland shall be discharged they shall be disbanded by Regiments and no lesser proportions and so may of them payed off as shall be disbanded and the residue kept in pay till they be disbanded Seventhly It is agreed that the Townes of Charickfergus and Colrayne shall by the Kingdom of England be with all expedition provided with Victualls necessary for Souldiers either in Garrisons or expeditions according to a List to be agreed on and Subscribed by the Commissioners of both Kingdoms And that such quantities thereof as the Scottish Army shall have occasion to use shall be sold unto them and bought by them at the severall Prices contained in the aforesaid List And also that the said Townes of Carickfergus and Colrayne shall be provided by the Kingdom of England with Powder Ball Match and other Ammunition for the service of the said Army conforme to the particular List to be condescended unto by both Commissioners and that Carts and Waggons shall be provided by the Kingdom of England for carrying of Ammunition for the use of the said Army in Marches As also that there shall be Gun-Smiths Carpenters and one or two Engineers appoynted to attend the Army and that hand Mils shall be provided to serve the Companies in Marches Eightly It is agreed that the Kingdom of England shall deposite two Thousand Pounds English money in the hands of any to be appoynted by the Scottish Commissioners to be disbursed upon accompt by warrant of the Generall of their Army upon Fortifications Intelligences and other Incidents so that there be not above the summe of two Thousand pounds in a yeare Imprested upon these occasions without particular and speciall warrant from the Parliament of England As also that there shall be deposited two Thousand and five hundred pounds English to be disbursed upon Accompt for the providing of a thousand Horses for the Carriage of the Artillery the Baggage and Victuall of their Army and for Dragooners upon occasion And likewise that the Scottish Army during the time of the Warre shall have power to take up such Horses in the Country as be necessary for the uses aforesaid Ninth It is agreed that the Inhabitants of the Townes and Villages in the Province of Vlster and in any other Province of Irâ—land where the Scottish Army shall be by it selfe for the time shall receive Orders from the Scottish Commanders And shall bring in Victualls for Money in an orderly way as shall be directed by them with Provision of Oates Hay and Strawe and such other Necessaries And that the Country People shall Rise and Concurre with the Scottish Troops when the Commanders thereof shall find it for the good of the Service and shall receive Orders and Directions from the said Commanders of the Scottish Army Tenth It is agreed that the said ten thousand men to be sent out of the Kingdom of Scotland shall goe in the way and order of an Army under their own Generall and Subalterne Officers And the Province of Vlster is appointed unto them wherein they shall first prosecute the Warre as in their Judgment they shall think most expedient for the honour of the King and Crowne of England And that the Commanders of the said Army shall have power to give Conditions to Townes Castles and Persons which shall render and submit themselves as shall be most expedient for the service according to the course of Warre Provided no Toleration of the Popish Religion be granted nor any condition made touching or concerning any of the Rebels Lands and that the Commanders â—f the Scottish Army shall be answerable for their whole deportment and proceedings to His Majesty and the two Houses of the Parliament of England only but shall from time to time give an accompt thereof to His Majesty the two Houses of the Parliament of England and to the Cheife Governour or Governours of Ireland for the time being that such Townes and Places as shall be recovered from the Rebels by the Scottish Army shall be at the disposing of the Commanders thereof during their aboade for that service in those parts where such Townes and Places are And if it shall be found for the good of the service that the Scottish Army shall joyne with the Kings Lievtenant of Ireland and his Army in that case the Generall of the Scottish Army shall only cede to the Kings Lievtenant of Ireland and receive in a free and honourable way Instructions from him or in his absence from the Lord Deputy or any other who shall have the Cheife Government of that Kingdome for the time by authority derived from the Crowne of England and shall precede all others and that he only shall give Orders to the Officers of his own Army And that the Armies shall have the right lefthand Vand and Reare Charge and Retreat successively and shall not mixe in Quarterings nor Marchings and when it shall be found fit to send Troopes out of either Army that the Persons to be sent out of the Scottish Army shall be Commanded out by their own Generall the Lievtenant of Ireland prescribing the number which shall not exceed the fourth part of the whole Foote of the Scottish Army nor of the
Horse appointed to joyne therewith whereunto they shall returne when the service is done And that no Officer of the Scottish Army shall be Commanded by one of his owne quality and if the Commanders of the Troopes so sent out of either Army be of one Quality that they Command the Party by turnes And it is neverthelesse provided That the whole Scottish Army may be called out of the Province of Vlster and the Horses appointed to joyne with them by His Majesties Lievtenant of Ireland or other Cheife Governour or Governours of that Kingdom for the time being if he or they shall thinke fit before the Rebellion be totally suppressed therein Eleventh It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall be entertained by the English for three moneths from the Twentieth of Iune last and so along after untill they be discharged and that they shall have a moneths Pay advanced when they are first Mustered in Ireland and thereafter shall be duly paid from Month to Month And that there shall be one Muster-Master appointed by the English Muster-Master Generall to make strict and frequent Musters of the Scottish Army and that what Companies of Men shall be sent out of Scotland within the compasse of the ten Thousand Men shall be paid upon their Musters in Ireland although they make not up compleat Regiments Twelfth It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall receive their discharge from the King and Parliament of England or from such Persons as shall be appointed and authorized by His Majesty and both Houses of Parliament for that purpose And that there shall be a Moneths warning before hand of their disbanding which said discharge and Moneths warning shall be made knowne by His Majesty and them to the Councell of Scotland or the Lord Chancellour a Moneth before the discharging thereof And that the Common Souldiers of the Scottish at their dismission shall be allowed fourteen dayes Pay for carrying of them home Thirteenth It is provided and agreed That at any time after the three Moneths now agreed upon for the entertainment of the Scottish Army shall be Expired and that the two Houses of Parliament or such Persons as shall be authorized by them shall give notice to the Councell of Scotland or to the Lord Chancellor there That after one Moneth from such notice given the said two Houses of Parliament will not pay the said Scottish Army now in Ireland any longer then the said two Houses of Parliament shall not be obleiged to pay the said Army any longer then during the said Moneth Any thing in this Treaty contained to the Contrary notwithstanding The Ordinances of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill Die Sabbati 9. Martii 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat he who doth or shall command in chiefe over the said VIII Army by joynt advice of both Kingdoms shall also command the rest of the Brittish Forces in Ireland And for the further managing of that Warre and prosecuting the ends expressed in the Covenant That the same be done by joynt advice with the Committees of both Kingdomes Die Iovis 11. April 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat the Earle of Leven Lord Generall of the Scots Forces in Ireland being now by the Votes of both Houses agreed to be Commander in Chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots according to the Fourth Article of the result of the Committees of both Kingdoms passed both Houses be desired with all convenient speed by the advice of the said Committees to appoynt and nominate a Commander in chiefe under his Excellency over the said Forces to reside with them upon the place Resolved c. THat Committees be nominated and appointed by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes of such numbers and Qualities as shall be by them agreed on to be sent with all convenient speed to reside with the said Forces and inabled with all ample Instructions by the joynt advice of both Kingdoms for the Regulating of the said Forces and the better carrying on of that Warre The Letter of the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland to the Speaker of the House of Commons in England 4. Aril 1643. a Duplicate whereof the originall being sent to Westminster was by them sent to Mr Secretary Nicholas for His Majesty SIR OVr very good Lord the Lord Marquesse of Ormond having IX in his march in his last expedition consulted severall times with the Commanders and Officers of the Army in a Councell of Warre and so finding that subsistence could not be had abroad for the Men and Horses he had with him or for any considerable part of them it was resolved by them that his Lordship with those Forces should returne hither which he did on the sixe and twentieth of March. In his returne from Rosse which in the case our Forces stand he found so difficult to be taken in as although our Ordinance made a breach in their walls it was found necessary to desert the Siege he was encountred by an Army of the Rebels consisting of about sixe thousand Foot and sixe hundred and fifty Horse well Armed and Horsed yet it pleased God so to disappoint their Councells and strength as with those small Forces which the Lord Marquesse had with him being of fighting men about two thousand five hundred Foot and five hundred Horse not well armed and for the most part weakly horsed and those as well Men as Horses much weakned by lying in the fields severall nights in much Cold and Raine and by want of mans-meat and horse-meat the Lord Marquesse obtained a happy and glorious deliverance and Victory against those Rebells wherein were slaine about three hundred of them and many of their Commanders and others of quality and divers taken Prisoners and amongst those Prisoners Colonell Cullen a Native of this City who being a Colonell in France departed from thence and came hither to assist the Rebels and was Lievtenant Generall of their Army in the Province of Leinster and the Rebels Army were totally Routed and defeated and their Baggage and Munition seized on by His Majesties Forces who lodged that night where they had gained the Victory and on our side about Twenty slaine in the fight and divers wounded We have great cause to praise God for magnifying his goodnesse and mercy to his Majesty and this his Kingdome so manifestly and indeed wonderfully in that Victory However the joy due from us upon so happy an occasion is we confesse mingled with very great distraction here in the apprehension of our unhappinesse to be such as although the Rebels are not able to overcome His Majesties Army and devoure his other good Subjects here as they desire yet both his Army and good Subjects are in danger to be devoured by the wants of needfull Supplies forth of England for as we formerly signified thither those Forces were of necessity sent
and want when we come home Now my Lords although we be brought to so great an exigence that we are ready to robbe and spoyle one another yet to prevent such outrages we thought it better to try all honest meanes for our subsistence before we take such indirect courses Therefore if your Lordships will be pleased to take us timely into your considerations before our urgent wants makes us desperate we will as we have done hitherto serve your Lordships readily and faithfully But if your Lordships will not find a way for our preservations here we humbly desire we may have leave to goe where we may have a better being and if your Lordships shall refuse to grant that we must then take leave to have our recourse to that first and prymary Law which God hath endued all men with we mean the Law of nature which teacheth all men to preserve themselves The Letter of the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland to His Majesty of the 11. of May. 1643. May it please Your most excellent Majesty AS soon as we your Majesties Iustices entred into the X. charge of this government we took into our consideration at this Board the state of your Army here which we find suffering under unspeakable extremities of Want of all things necessary to the support of their Persons or maintenance of the Warre here being no Victualls Cloaths or other provisions requisite towards their sustenance No Money to provide them of any thing they want No Armes in Your Majesties stores to supply their many defective Armes Not above forty Barrells of Powder in Your stores No strength of serviceable Horses being now left here and those few that are their Armes for the most part lost or unserviceable No Shipps arrived here to guard the Coasts and consequently no security rendred to any that might on their private adventures bring in provisions of Victualls or other necessaries towards our subsistence and finally No visible means by Sea or Land of being able to preserve for You this your Kingdom and to render deliverance from utter destruction to the remnant of Your good Subjects yet left here We find that Your Majesties late Iustices and this Board have often and fully by very many Letters advertised the Parliament in England of the extremities of Affaires here and besought reliefe with all possible importunity which also have been fully represented to Your Majesty and to the Lord Lieutenant and Mr Secretary Nicholas to be made known to Your Majesty and although the Winds have of late for many daies and often formerly stood very faire for accessions of supply forth of England hither and that we have still with longing expectations hoped to find provisions arrive here in some degree answerable to the necessities of Your affaires yet now to our unexpressible griefe after full six months waiting and much longer patience and long suffering we find all our great expectations answered in a mean and inconsiderable quantity of provisions viz. threescore and fifteen barrells of Butter and fourteen Tunne of Cheese being but the fourth part of a small Vessells loading which was sent from London and arrived here on the fift day of this Month which is not above seaven or eight daies provision for that part of the Army which lies in Dublin and the out Garrisons thereof No mony or victualls other then that inconsiderable proportion of Victuall having arrived in this place as sent from the Parliament of England or from any other forth of England for the use of the Army since the beginning of November last We have by the blessing of God been hitherto prosperous and successefull in Your Majesties affaires here and should be still hopefull by the mercy of God under the Royall Directions of Your Sacred Majesty to vindicate Your Majesties Honour and recover your rights here and take due vengeance on these Traitors for the innocent bloud they have spilt if we might be strengthened and supported therein by needfull supplies forth of England but these supplies having hitherto been expected to come from the Parliament of England on which if Your Majesty had not relied we are assured You would in Your High Wisdom have found out some other meanes to preserve this Your Kingdom and so great and apparent a failer having hapned therein and all the former and late long continuing Easterly Winds bringing us no other Provisions then those few Cheeses and Butter and no advertisements being brought us of any future supply to be so much as in the way hither whereby there might be any likelyhood that considerable means of support for Your Majesties Army might arrive here in any reasonable time before we be totally swallowed up by the Rebels and Your Kingdom by them wrested from you We find our selves so disappoynted of our hopes from the Parliament as must needs trenâ—h to the utter losse of the Kingdom if Your Majesty in Your high Wisdom ordaine not some present means of preservation for us And considering that if now by occasion of that unhappy and unexpected failing of support from thence we shall be lesse successefull in your Services here against the Rebels then hitherto whilst we were enabled with some meanes to serve you we have been the shame and dishonour may in common construction of those that know not the in-wards of the cause be imputed to us and not to the failings that disabled us and considering principally and above all things the high and eminent trust of your Affaires here deposited with us by your Sacred Majesty we may not forbeare in discharge of our Duty thus freely and plainly to declare our humble apprehensions to the end your Majesty thus truly understanding the terriblenesse of our Condition may find out some such meanes of support to preserve to your Majesties and your Royall Posterity this your Ancient and Rightfull Crowne and Kingdome and derive deliverance and safety to the Remnant of your good Subjects yet left here as in your Excellent Judgement you shall find to be most for your Honour and Advantage And so praying to the King of Kings to guide and direct you for the best in this high and important Cause and in all other your Councells and Actions we humbly remaine from your Majesties Castle of Dublin the 11th day of May 1643. Your Majesties most Loyall and most faithfull Subjects and Servants FINIS HIS MAIESTIES ANSWERS TO CERTAIN PAPERS DELIVERED IN to His Commissioners at Vxbridge upon the close of the TREATY ONE CONCERNING THE MILITIA AND TWO CONCERNING IRELAND To which being long and comming in so neare the breaking up of the Treaty no Answers could then be given See them in the Narrative N o 136. 177. 178. OXFORD Printed by Leonard Lichfield Printer to the Vniversity 1645. HIS Majesties Answers to certain Papers delivered See them in the Narrative no. 136. 177 178. in to His Commissioners at Vxbridge upon the close of the Treaty concerning the Militia and Ireland c.
Generall of the Scots that they shall be well paid the Arreares to the Armies in both Kingdomes before they quit their Interest in Ireland If we shall allow Provisions thus imployed to be for the preservation of the English Protestants in Ireland We may believe they have repaid the 100000l taken up of the Adventurers money and yet thus to resatisfie this money admitting it be currant satisfaction for the debt can be no satisfaction or excuse for the former diversion But since they cannot excuse themselves for this diversion of the Adventurers money nor of the other moneys raised for Ireland nor of the imploying the forces raised for that Kingdom under the Command of the Lord Wharton against us at Edge-Hill which they deny not They fall to recriminate Vs. They say They have mentioned particulars of provisions for Ireland besides those few clothes taken neere Coventry which being formerly answered by Our Commissioners they do not againe urge asserted to be seised not without Our owne knowledge and directions as they were informed This they had formerly alledged and our Commissioners had answered as we do now that they have instanced no particulars at all of any such provisions seised And whereas they say that Out forbearance to seise some provisions which Our Commissioners alleadged in our greatest wants we forbore to take though they lay in Magazines within Our owne Quarters but took order to send away into Ireland was no excuse for seising others they misapply that to be an excuse which was alleadged as an evidence that We seised none since we might in Our great want have seised those if we had been minded to have seised any They say again the service of that Kingdom was much prejudiced by denying the Lord Wharton's Commission of which they have not received satisfaction To this it hath been already answered that those Forces were raised for him before any Commission demanded from us and that the Commission for him proposed to us was to have been independant of the Lievtenant of that Kingdom Causes though not satisfactory to them yet sufficient in themselves to justifie Our reâ—usall But besides these it is apparent the Army which was brought down against Vs was their raising that the Lord Wharton was one of the most active in it and We had cause to be confident nor did he faile us therein that what Forces he should raise for Ireland he would imploy against us in England neither did that service depend upon the Lord Wharton other able Officers were appointed over those Forces whom if they had as much affected that service as the Person of the Lord Wharton they might have trusted with the Transport of them to Ireland where others of more experience and fitter for Conduct then the Lord Wharton might have taken the charge of them They say further That it was one end for which the Cessation was made that the Forces might be brought hither to Vs out of Ireland and imployed against the two Houses The bleeding necessities of the poore English there which have been mentioned and whereof they cannot but be convinced will best speak the cause of that Cessation and the fight of those Souldiers halfe starved when they came over having neither Clothes to their Backs nor so much as Shooes to their Feet nor any pay to provide either will witnesse the necessity of bringing them over when there was no subsistance for them in Ireland nor use for them there during the Cessation And for making use of them here how can they quarrell at Our imploying Our owne English Souldiers who should otherwise have disbanded when they make use of an Army of Scots against Vs. They have bin told that they brought over out of Ireland the Earle of Leven their Generall and diverse Scottish Officers which they deny not and that before the English Forces brought over they attempted the bringing once the Scottish Forces in Ireland as likewise diverse English Officers there into this Kingdom to which all the answer given is that the Scottish Forces which came over were not sent for Which as it denies not what is objected so neither can it excuse their not sending them back to the service of Ireland and imploying them here in an unnaturall Rebellion against Vs. But whatsoever their owne acts or failings have bin in this businesse of Ireland though apparently the necessities which caused the Cessation were occasioned by the two Houses yet rather then they shall be guilty of the blame and neglect therein Our people must be made to beleive that either there were no such necessities or when that is so apparent then that those necessities were designed and contrived by a Popish and Prelaticall party prevalent with Vs and the supplyes denyed and stopped by Our Selfe and so that it is reasonable for them to presse and insist as they do with much fervour in their last Paper concerning Ireland upon their demands for the setling of the prosecution of the War in themselves or the Scots excluding Vs and that there shall be no further Cessation or Peace made there though the War should continue here to have the nomination of the Leivtenant and all the great Officers there and to have Vs bound up to assent to whatsoever acts they shall propose for moneys or other necessaries for the prosecution of that War and if We agree not to these Propositions We are like to be charged with countenancing of that Bloudy Rebellion And therefore though the unreasonablenesse of those Propositions hath been fully laid open by Our Commissioners â—n their Paper yet because this of theirs is framed in answer to those and the fervency and fluency of their expressions may make impressions on those who doe not warily weigh the matter We shall examine what new inforcements they bring to make good those demands The prosecution of the Warre there though it be demanded generally in the 13th Proposition to be setled in both Houses of the Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advice of both Kingdoms yet according to their 17th Proposition it is to be ordered according to the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. which is also proposed to be enacted By that Ordinance the Scottish Generall Leven is to command all the Forces in Ireland both English and Scottish and that Warre is to be managed by a joynt Committee to be named by the two Houses of England and the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland And the Committees of each Kingdom is to have a negative voyce They insisting to have the prosecution of the War thus setled Our Commissioners answered That this was in effect to deliver the Kingdom of Ireland into the hands of Our Subjects of Scotland and neither agreeable to the rules of honour or prudence That it was unreasonable if the War continued here that We by Our consent to Act of Parliament for the manageing of that War and raising moneys for that purpose should put so great power into
taken for Apocryphall doctrine not to take up Armes against their Frince upon any pretence whatsoever And as we have endeavoured by Our Personall example otherwise so we shall still continue by all good meanes to propagate the Protestant Religion but we are farre from that Mahumetane doctrine that we ought to propagate Our Religion by the Sword And though We shall be most willing to hearken to the advice of Our People Assembled in a free Parliament yet we should be wanting to the Trust that God hath reposed in Vs and Our use of that reason with which he hath endowed Vs if We should wholly give up that Kingdome to be managed solely by their Counsells secluding Our Selves from all Interest therein especially when We consider that which experience hath taught Vs if they have the sole power of that Warre by which all the Souldiers and Commanders being to be nominated and paid removed and advanced by them the necessary application passing by Vâ— must be made to such as are powerfull with them how easie a matter it will be for a prevalent Faction if they shall have a mind to demand other things hereafter not fit to be granted againe to bring over an Army raised and payed by them into this Kingdome especially so much composed of Our Scottish Subjects And whereas they desire further The nomination of the Lord Lievtenant and other great Officers and Judges in that Kingdome which they also desire in this of England they cannot but know that it must oâ— necessity take away all dependency upon Vs and application to Vs when the power to reward those who are worthy of publique Trust shall be transferred to others and having neither force left Vs to punish nor power to reward We shall be in effect a titular contemptible Prince We shall leave all Our Ministers to the knowne Lawes of the Land to be tryed and punished according to those Lawes if they shall offend but We cannot consent to put so great a Trust and Power out of Vs and we have just cause to conceive that notwithstanding all their speciouâ— pretences this desire of nomination of those great Officers is but a cloke to cover the Ambition of those who having been the Boutefeux of this Rebellion desire to advance themselves and their owne Faction And to that which is said that Our bad choice of Our Lievtenants of Ireland was the losse of many thousand Lives there and almost of the whole Kingdome from Our Obedience They cannot but witnesse who know that Kingdome that during the Government there by Lievtenants of Our Choyce that Kingdome enjoyed more plenty and Peace then it ever had since it was under the subjection to the Crowne of England Traffique by Sea and Trade by Land encreased Values of Land improved Shipping multiplyed beyond beliefe Never was the Protestant Religion more advanced nor the Protestant protected in greater security against the Papists And We must remember them that that Rebellion was begun when there was no Lievtenant there and when the Power and Government which had been formerly used in that Kingdome was questioned and disgraced when those in the Parliament there by whom that Rebellion was hatched were countenanced in their Complaints and prosecution But they are not content to demand all the power over Ireland and the nomination of all Officers but We must also engage Our Selfe to passe such Acts as shall be presented to Vs for raising of Monyes and other necessaries for that Warre Our former readinesse to passe Acts for Ireland because they were advised by the two Houses when they were apparently prejudiciall to Our Selfe and contrary to Our owne Judgement might sufficiently satisfie them We would make no difficulty to consent to such Acts as should be for the good of that Kingdome but they have been already told it was unreasonable to make a generall engagement before we saw the Acts whether reasonable or no and whether those other necessaries may not in truth comprehend what is not onely unnecessary but very inconvenient But the People they say who have trasted them with their Purse will never begrudge what they make them lay out upon that occasion The two Houseâ— indeed were entrusted that Our Subjects should not be charged without them but they never were solely trusted by Our Subjects with a power to chaâ—ge them the care that no pressure in that or any other kind should be upon Our Subjects is principally in Vs without whose consent notwithstanding the late contrary and unexampled practice no such charge can or ought to be levyed and we ought not to give that consent â—ut where it is visible for the good of Our Kingdomes which upon such an unbounded power of raising Monyes may fall out otherwise especially in so unusuall a casâ— as this where those who must have the sole manage of the Warre shall have the sole command of the Purse without any châ—ck or controll upon them But they say againe We have heretofore been possessed against the Parliament for not giving away the Money of the Subject when We had desired it but never yet did We restraine them from it It is true We had no great cause heretofore to restraine the two Houses from giving the Subjects Money to Vs having found more difficulty to obtaine from them three or foure Subsidies then they have met with in raising so many Millions But Our People cannot think themselves well dealt with by Vs if We shall consent to put an unlimited power of raising what Monyes they please in those Persons who have drayned more wealth from them in foure yeares then We beleeve all the Supplies given to the Crowne in 400 yeares before have amounted unto In the last place We wish every man to consider how the Rebels in Ireland can be reduced by War whilst these unhappy distractions continue here whilst contrary Forces and Armies are raised in most parts of this Kingdom and the bloud of Our People is spils like water upon the ground whil'st the Kingdom in wasted by Souldiers and the people exhausted by maintaining them and as if this Kingdom were not sufficient to destroy it self whilest on Army of Scots is brought into the bowels of this Kingdom and maintained at the charg of it whil'st this Kingdom labours under such a War how is it possible that a considerable supply of men or money can be sent into Ireland To this with much fervour of expression they say It must not depend upon the condition of Our other Kingdoms to reveng Gods quarrell upon such perfidious Enemies to the Gospell of Christ who have embrewed their hands in so much Protestant bloud That the Cessation is for their advantage Armes and Ammunition and all manner of Commodities may be brought to them That it is not fit there be any agreement of Peace or respite from hostility with such creatures as are not fit to live more then with Wolves or Tygers or any ravenous Beasts destroyers of mankind We are
of Ireland and other officers and Iudges there mentioned in the 20th Proposition being no matters of joynt concernments is to be limited to the Commissioners for the Parliament of England wherein the Commissioners of Scotland are to Vote as single persons The King's Commissioners fourth Paper 19. February THe Articles of the Treaty of the sixth of August giving CLVIII power to the Lievtenant of Ireland when the Scottish Army shall be joyned with His Army to give Instructions to the Scottish commander in chiefe and the Orders of the two Houses of the 9th of March 1644. and the 11th of Aprill See all these in the Appendix 1644. appoynting the Generall of the Scottish Forces in Ireland to command in chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots and both being desired to be enacted We desire to know whether the Lievtenant of Ireland shall command the Scots Forces or whether the Scottish Generall shall command all Forces both Brittish and Scots Their Answer 19. Feb. IN Answer to your Lordships 4th Paper we say that the Ordinances CLIX. of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill 1644. were made when there was no Lievtenant of Ireland and when a Lievtenant shall be made with the approbation of both Houses according to our former Demands in the â—7th and 20th Propositions it will be a fitting time to give further Answer to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Reply 20. Feb. VVE desire a full answer from your Lordships to our CLX fourth paper delivered to your Lordships yesterday concerning the Power of the Lord Lievtenant of Ireland and the Generall of Scots Forces your Lordship having proposed to us that the Articles of the Treaty and the Ordinance of the 11. of April be enacted by His Maiestie by one of which the Generall of the Scotch Forces is to receive instructions for the manageing the War there from the Lievtenant of Ireland and by the other which is the later the Generall of the Scots Forces is to command in cheif both the Brittish and Scots Forces by which it seemes the Lievtenant of that Kingdom is to have no power in the prosecution of that War Their Answer 20. Feb. WE do insist upon our former papers that the prosecution of CLXI the War in Ireland is to be setled in both Houses of Parliament and is to be managed by the ioynt advice of both Kingdoms as in those Papers is set down and when a Lievtenant of Ireland shall be appointed as is expressed in the Propositions and it shall be necessary for the good of the service that he and the Commander in chief of the Scottish Army ioyn The Commander of the Scottish Army shall receive Instructions from the Lord Lievtenant or Deputy or other who shall have the cheif Government of that Kingdom for the time according to the Orders which shall be given by the Commissioners of both Kingdoms The King's Commissioners fifth Paper 19. February THe last part of the 17th Proposition gives power to the CLXII Commissioners for the Militia of both Kingdoms as a ioynt Committee to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th April and to order the Militia and conserve the Peace of the Kingdom of Ireland and by that of the 11th of April the Earle of Leven being appointed Commander in cheif over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots We desire to know whether he shall be subordinate to those Commissioners for the Militia and be obliged to observe such orders as he shall receive from them Their Answer 19. Feb. THe Commissioners of the Militia desired by the 17th Proposition CLXIII are to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th of April and the Earle of Leven being by that Ordinance Commander in cheif of the Forces there is obliged to observe such Orders as he shall receive from those Commissioners Their Commissioners likewise the same 19 of Feb. delivered in some Papers of Demands on their part Their Answer 19. Feb. WE desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland CLXIV may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of Parliament of England Another 19. Feb. WE desire to know whether any Peace or Cessation of Armes CLXV in Ireland be consented unto by His Majestie and for what time and whether any Commission be now on foote or other authority given by His Majestie for that purpose The King's Commissioners Answer to both 20. February CLXVI TO your Lordships * Which were the two next precedent Papers sixt and seventh Papers delivered to us yesterday concerning any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland your Lordships well know that long after the Warre begun in this Kingdom and the want of a supply from hence that a Cessation hath bin made with His Majesties consent and we conceive that the same expires in March next and we are confident there is no Peace made there But for the making a Peace or a farther Cessation we can give no farther answer till we may know whether there may be a blessed Peace made in England since if the miserable Civill Warrs shall continue in thâ— Kingdom we cannot conceive it possible for His Majestie by Force to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland or to preserve His Protestant Subjects there without a Peace or Cessation Their Reply 20. Febr. WE conceive your Lordships have given no answer to us whether CLXVII any Commission be now on foot or other authority given by His Majestie for any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland other then that which determines in March next nor to our desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of the Parliament of England nor do we understand why your Lordships should delay your answer herein till the Peace in England be concluded since it hath bin so clearly manifested to your Lordships by the true meaning of the Act passed by His Majestie this Parliament that His Majestie can make no Peace nor Cessation without the consent of the two Houses and that your Lordships satisfactory answer to this and our other demands concerning Ireland will much conduce to the setling the Peace of this Kingdom we therefore again desire your Lordships full and clear answer to the particulars expressed in our sixt and seventh papers yesterday delivered to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Answer 20. Febr. WE do not hold our selves any wayes obliged to answer CLXVIII your Lordships demand whether any Commission be on foot or other authority from His Majesty for a Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland that question not arising upon any Propositions on His Majesties part yet for your Lordships satisfaction we do again assure you we do not know there is any Peace or Cessation made there other then that which determines in March next But what Commission the Marquesse of Ormond as