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A49336 A letter to Edw. Stillingfleet, D.D. &c. in answer to the epistle dedicatory before his sermon, preached at a publick ordination at St. Peter's Cornhil, March 15, 1684/5 together with some reflections upon certain letters, which Dr. Burnet wrote on the same occasion / by Simon Lowth ... Lowth, Simon, 1630?-1720. 1687 (1687) Wing L3328; ESTC R2901 83,769 93

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to the Magistrate I might here also again demand By what Law in your Sense But it is your bare Opinion I am now to relate and the Reasons you produce not to shew the rottenness of them For suppose in some indifferent Rites and Ceremonies the Church representative that is the Governors of it pro tempore do prescribe them to be observ'd by all the Supreme Power forbids the doing those things if this doth not null the former supposed Obligation I must inevitably run upon these absurdities First That there are two Supreme Powers in a Nation at the same time Secondly That a Man may lie under two different Obligations as to the same thing he is bound to do it by one Power and not to do it by the other Thirdly The same action may be a Duty and a Sin a Duty in obeying the one Power a Sin in disobeying the other Therefore there can be but one Power to oblige which is that of the Supreme Magistrate where by the way I note that these last reasons are the very same that Mr. Hobbs urges against this very Branch of Church-Power in his Leviathan Part II. c. 29. and Part III. c. 10. pag. 248. The summ of all is this and I choose to express my self in the words of a very Learned and Judicious Writer upon the like occasion You distinguish betwixt the Sacred Function which you grant to be the proper Office of the Church and the Power over Sacred Things which you annex entirely to the Civil Power By which distinction you leave the Governors of the Church no other Power than to administer the Offices of Religion without any Power of punishing Offenders against the Laws of Religion I confess Part. I. c. 8. you own the Church to be a Society distinct from other Societies with Laws Ends and Governors of a distinct Nature and you had done the same before Cap. 2. § 3. p. 35. just almost before you enter'd upon this grand determination and with punishments distinct from the Civil and for Spiritual ends which you call Excommunication or an Exclusion of the offending Person from Communion with the Society and say That this Power is peculiar to the Church But this reacheth not to the point as to Church-Laws or to the Power of punishing Offenders against the Laws of Religion Besides you have called this Church the Magistrate all-along and invested him alone with Church-Power or a Power distinct from that properly called Political which can be no other than Ecclesiastical and you have instanced only in Preaching the Word and Administring the Sacraments as the two Offices in which the Authoritative exercise of the ministerial Function derived by Christ to his Disciples doth consist But all this I have shew'd to be contrary to the judgment and Practice of the whole Church of God both Bishops Fathers and Councils of the Emperors themselves in the best Ages of the Church and when they were her Defenders to the determinations of our own Church and the Laws of our Kingdom It is the design and subject of my whole Book and I am also mightily secured that I did not take one Argument that Doctor Stillingfleet had used before to be sure in his Irenicum Fourthly You give to the Prince and enstate on him as his right and due those very Offices and Acts which you have appropriated to the Pastors of the Church as their peculiar Authoritative Power such as to Ordain to Excommunicate Baptize c. and undertake to censure every Man exposing him as ignorant of the State of our own Church that is not of your judgment wherein you and Mr. Hobbs so exactly jump together for I consider what you produce out of the Manuscripts as your own particular Opinion that I have here placed your words in two distinct Columns desiring the Reader to compare and judge of them Irenicum pag. 391 c. All Christian Princes have committed unto them immediately of God the whole cure of all their Subjects as well concerning the Administration of God's Word for the cure of the Soul as concerning the Administration of things Political and Civil Governance And in both these ministrations they must have sundry Ministers under them to supply that which is appointed in their several Offices The Civil Ministers under the King's Majesty in this Realm of England be those whom it shall please his Highness for the time to put in Authority under him as for example the Lord Chancellor Lord Treasurer Lord Great-Master Lord privy-Privy-Seal Mayors Sheriffs c. The Ministers of God's Word under his Majesty be the Bishops Parsons Vicars and such other Priests as be appointed by his Highness to that Ministration as for example The Bishop of Canterbury the Bishop of Winchester the Parson of Winwick c. All the said Officers and Ministers as well of the one sort as the other be appointed assign'd and elected in every place by the Laws and Orders of Kings and Princes In the admission of many of these Officers be diverse comely Ceremonies and Solemnities used which be not of necessity but only for good Order and seemly Fashion For if such Offices and Ministrations were committed without such Solemnities they were nevertheless truly committed And there is no more Promise of God that Grace is given in the committing of the Ecclesiastical Office than it is in the committing of the Civil In the Apostles time when there was no Christian Princes by whose Authority Ministers of God's Word might be appointed nor Sins by the Sword corrected there was no remedy then for the correction of Vice or appointing of Ministers but only the consent of the Christian Multitude among themselves with an uniform consent to follow the Advice and Perswasion of such Persons whom God had most endued with the Spirit of Wisdom and Counsel And at that time forasmuch as Christian People had no Sword nor Governor among themselves they were constrain'd of necessity to take such Curates and Priests as either they knew themselves to be meet thereunto or else as were commended unto them by others that were so repleat with the Spirit of God with such knowledge in the Profession of Christ such Wisdom such Conversation and Counsel that they ought even of very Conscience to give credit unto them and to accept such as by them were presented And sometimes the Apostles and others unto whom God had given abundantly his Spirit sent or appointed Ministers of God's Word sometimes the People did choose such as they thought meet thereunto And when any were appointed or sent by the Apostles or other the People of their own voluntary will with thanks did accept them not for the Supremity Impery and Dominion that the Apostles had over them to command as their Princes or Masters but as good People ready to obey the voice of good Counsellors and to accept any thing that was necessary for their edification and benefit A Bishop may make a Priest by the Scriptures and