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A67877	The history of the troubles and tryal of the Most Reverend Father in God and blessed martyr, William Laud, Lord Arch-Bishop of Canterbury. [vol. 2 of the Remains.] wrote by himself during his imprisonment in the Tower ; to which is prefixed the diary of his own life, faithfully and entirely published from the original copy ; and subjoined, a supplement to the preceding history, the Arch-Bishop's last will, his large answer to the Lord Say's speech concerning liturgies, his annual accounts of his province delivered to the king, and some other things relating to the history.	Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Wharton, Henry, 1664-1695.; Prynne, William, 1600-1669. Rome's masterpiece.	1700 (1700)	Wing L596; ESTC R354	287,973	291

never move His Majesty directly or indirectly for that Honour and was surprized with it as altogether unlooked for when His Majesty's Resolution therein was made known unto him Nor ever did that Bishop take so much upon him as a Justiceship of the Peace or meddle with any Lay-Employment save what the Laws and Customs of this Realm laid upon him in the High Commission and the Star-Chamber while those Courts were in being and continued Preaching till he was Threescore and four and then was taken off by Writing of his Book against Fisher the Jesuit being then not able at those Years to continue both And soon after the World knows what trouble befel him and in time they will know why too I hope Besides the Care of Government which is another part of a Bishop's Office and a necessary one too lay heavy upon him in these Factious and broken Times especially And whatsoever this Lord thinks of it certainly though Preaching may be more necessary for the first planting of a Church yet Government is more noble and necessary too where a Church is planted as being that which must keep Preaching and all things else in order And Preaching as 't is now used hath as much need to be kept in order as any even the greatest Extravagance that I know Nor is this out of Christ's Commission Pasce Oves John 21. 15. for the feeding of his Sheep For a Shepherd must guide govern and defend his Sheep in the Pasture as well as drive them to it And he must see that their Pasture be not tainted too or else they will not thrive upon it And then he may be answerable for the Rot that falls among them The Rhetorick goes farther yet To contend for sitting at Council Tables to govern States No but yet to assist them being called by them To have States-Men instead of Church-Men No but doing the Duty of Church-Men to mingle pious Counsels with States-Mens Wisdom To sit in the highest Courts of Judicature And why not in a Kingdom where the Laws and Customs require it Not to be employed in making Laws for Civil Polities and Government And I conceive there is great Reason for this in the Kingdom of England and greater since the Reformation than before Great Reason because the Bishops of England have been accounted and truly been grave and experienced Men and far fitter to have Votes in Parliaments for the making of Laws than many young Youths which are in either House And because it is most fit in the making of Laws for a Kingdom that some Divines should have Vote and Interest to see as much as in them lies that no Law pass which may perhaps though unseen to others intrench upon Religion it self or the Church And I make no doubt but that these and the like Considerations settled it so in England where Bishops have had their Votes in Parliaments and in making Laws ever since there were Parliaments yea or any thing that resembled them in this Kingdom And for my part were I able to give no Reason at all why Bishops should have Votes in Parliament yet I should in all Humility think that there was and is still some great Reason for it since the Wisdom of the State hath successively in so many Ages thought it fit And as there is great Reason they should have Votes in making Laws so is there greater Reason for it since the Reformation than before For before that time Clergy-Men were governed by the Church Canons and Constitutions and the Common Laws of England had but little Power over them Then in the Year 1532. the Clergy submitted and an Act of Parliament was made upon it So that ever since the Clergy of England from the Highest to the Lowest are as much subject to the Temporal Laws as any other Men and therefore ought to have as free a Vote and Consent to the Laws which bind them as other Subjects have Yet so it is that all Clergy-Men are and have long since been excluded from being Members of the House of Commons and now the Bishops and their Votes by this last Act are cast out of the Lord's House By which it is at this Day come to pass that by the Justice of England as now it stands no Clergy-Man hath a Consent by himself or his Proxy to those Laws to which all of them are bound In the mean time before I pass from this Point this Lord must give me leave to put him in mind of that which was openly spoken in both Houses that the Reason why there was such a Clamour against the Bishops Votes was because all or most of them Voted for the King so that the potent Faction could not carry what they pleased especially in the Vpper House And when some saw they could not have their Will to cast out their Votes fairly the Rabble must come down again and Clamour against their Votes not without danger to some of their Persons And come they did in Multitudes But who procured their coming I know not unless it were this Lord and his Followers And notwithstanding this is as clear as the Sun and was openly spoken in the House that this was the true Cause only why they were so angry with the Bishops Votes yet this most Godly and Religious Lord pretends here a far better Cause than this namely that they may as they ought carefully attend to the Preaching of the Word and not be distracted from that great Work by being troubled with these Worldly Affairs And I make no doubt but that the same Zeal will carry the same Men to the devout taking away the Bishops and the Church Lands and perhaps the Parsons Tythes too and put them to such Stipends as they shall think fit that so they may Preach the Gospel freely and not be drawn away with these Worldly Affairs from the principal Work of that Function Well! my Lord must give me leave here to Prophesie a little and 't is but this in short Either the Bishops shall in few Years recover of this Hoarseness and have their Honour and their Votes in Parliament again or before many Years be past all Baseness Barbarity and Confusion will go near to possess both this Church and Kingdom But this Lord hath yet somewhat more to say namely that If they shall be thought fit to sit in such Places and will undertake such Employments they must not be there as ignorant Men but must be knowing in Business of State and understand the Rules and Laws of Government and thereby both their Time and Studies must be necessarily diverted from that which God hath called them unto And this surely is much more Vnlawful for them to admit of than that which the Apostles rejected as a distraction unreasonable for them to be interrupted by Why but yet if they shall be thought fit to sit in such Places and will undertake such Employments what then Why then they must not sit there as ignorant Men

animitus devoti E. Domo nostra Congregationis Mart. 20. 1635 6. Sanctitatis vestrae Colentissima Oxon. Acad. Reverendissime Cancellarie CVM in corpore Academiae sim ipse Lingua in Oratorum serie membrum illud quod primum degustaverit vestroe munificientioe fructum liceat mihi oceano rivum immensurabili gratiarum acervo peculiarem sementem vestrâ cum veniâ subministrare Dum totum se exerit Gladiator vim ponit in lacerto Qui totus venerationem exhibet genu tantum oslendit Ne succenseat paternitas vestra si Academiae Lingua praesertim in re sua vehementius assici gestiat Ideoque infinito gratiarum ponderi aliquid amplius addere plus toto afferre conetur Simulachri parte interiore nomen suum inscripsit Phidias Mihi non arrogantiae ut illi vertatur sed gratitudini si in maternoe Epistolae visceribus privati Officii tesseram concludam vestrae memor memoriae Curaeque tam longe infra vestram Celsitudinem non possum non esse gratus tametsi gratitudini peccavero Martii 20. 〈◊〉 Sanctitati vestrae humillime devotissimus Guilielm Strode Academiae tuae Orator publicus In this year the Northside of Vniversity College was finisht Upon a Difference betwixt the University and Town of Oxford touching Felons Goods Court-Leets and taking Toll a Hearing was appointed by consent of the most Reverend Father in God William Lord Arch-Bishop of Canterbury his Grace Chancellour of the University and of the Right Honourable Thomas Earl of Berks Steward of the Town aforesaid as likewise by the mutual consent of both Parties divers of the University and Town aforesaid being then present who assumed in the name of the rest that whatsoever should be ordered or directed upon this hearing should be final and binding and that either Party would for ever observe hereafter and stand to it In Witness whereof the Lords above mentioned and others then present have hereunto set their Hands Dated at Lambeth this 28th day of April in the Year of our Lord 1636. W. CANT John Oxon Bryan Duppa William Smith Bryon Twyne Barkshire John Whistler Oliver Smith John Sare Tmothy Carter S. in Christo. NON diu abhinc est quo Literas Patentes Libertates avitas confirmantes conferentes Novas accepistis Munus Regium erat Cura autem mea Nunc Statuta mitto Illa vincula secum ducunt sed accommoda ne Libertates licentiam induerent sed vobis grata Non vellet enim Academia esse sine Fraeno sed in ordinem redacta ne amplius confusione contradictionibus subditos oneraret sed antiquis valdè consona nisi ubi temporum ratio aliud exigit ne quid novi videretur pati celeberrima simul vetustissima Academia Saepius tentatum hoc opus à Viris saeculis suis celeberrimis frustra tamen Nec enim quidquam in hac re ad optatum sinem perduxerunt Sed utrum Operis ipsius difficultas an aliqua alia interventens remora obstiterit planè nescio Quo magis gratulor Academiae 〈◊〉 quibus Miseratione Divinâ datum est opus hoc ad talem saltem perfectionem redactum videre qualem ferre solent Leges Statuta quae de quovis particulari cavere nequeunt Nec Academioe tantum vobis sed mihimetipsi gratulor quod Statuta situ pulvere tantùm non sepulta in lucem redacta suis numeris titulisque distincta video Multò magis tamen quòd placuit Academiae in frequenti Convocatione ne uno refragrante rem totam ad me Curamque meam referre ut sub Incude med Statuta haec limarentur à me Confirmationem acciperent Summa haec vestra Confidentia fuit certê gratias omnibus singulis ago summas ob fidem mihi in re tantâ ac tali jam liberaliter praestitam Quâ in re certe non fidem 〈◊〉 nec spem vestram fefelli Verum enim est ausim dicere me summa cum aequitate cum aequalitate pari omnia transegisses Et potestatem à venerabili Domo mihi commissam it a moderatum ut nihil prae oculis habuerim nisi quod planè in publicum Ecclesiae Academiae bonum cederet Et hoc Deum Testor omnt affectione partialitate privato respectu praesentium temporum personarum locorum officiorum qualiumcunque sepositis Vnum superest non tacendum Transmisi vobis Statuta quae annum probationis suae apud vos complevere jam ex usu illo in nonnullis emendata pro potestate à vobis concessa misi sub sigillis meo vestroque in debitâ Juris formâ confirmata Quum ecce placuit Regi Serenissimo Musisque vestris addictissimo suam etiam superadjicere confirmationem manu propriâ sigillo magno munitam Quod Academiae honorem moribus Disciplinam Statutis reverentiam firmitatem nequit non conferre Ob quam Regiae Majestatis gratiam insignem gratias referre pares nec ipse nec vos potestis Quin Commissionarios misit suos qui ob majorem negotii dignitatem Statuta haec exhiberent Collegiorum Aularum Praefectos Statutis sic exhibitis confirmatis subscribere curarent Reliquum postea erit ut Statutis sic confirmatis Obedientia praestetur qud nihil magis poterit augere Academiae splendorem Et licet primo loco authoritas vestra Legis hasce condendas curavit ea tamen natura legis est ut semel condita promulgata non alios tantum sed condentes liget Huic Obedientiae Reliquisque virtutibus quibus polletis vos semper affines futuros spero ut tales sitis supplicibus precibus se à summo Numine impetratum non dubitat Vestris mihi amicissimis Doctori Pink Vice-Cancel lario reliquisque Doctoribus Procuratoribus nec non singulis in Domo Convocationis intra Almam Universitatem Oxon. Congregatis Datum ex AEdibus nostris Lambethanis Junii 15. 1636. Amicus vester Cancellarius W. CANT These Letters were read in Convocation upon the 22 of June 1636. wherein Mr. Secretary Cook made a weighty Speech fitting the occasion and so likewise did the Vice-Chancellour Mr. Secretary's Speech follow 's in haec verba Reverend Vice-Chancellour Doctors and Masters YOU have heard with due respect and attention the Letters brought by us to his Sacred Majesty you have also heard in Conformity thereunto other Letters sent from your most Reverend Chancellour signifying his Majesty's Grace and Goodness in recommending unto you this Volume of Statutes which we now deliver and you are to receive as the Rules by which you must be governed hereafter You have also seen and heard the Confirmation and Establishment of these Statutes First by his Majesties Royal Signature and under the great Seal of his Kingdom And respectively under the Hand and Seal of the Lord Arch-Bishop both as Primate and Metropolitan of England and as most worthy

to begin When these things were fitted I gave notice to the King and the Queen and attended them into the Hall whither I had the happiness to bring them by a Way prepared from the President 's Lodging to the Hall without any the least disturbance And had the Hall kept as fresh and cool that there was not any one person when the King and Queen came into it The Princes Nobles and Ladies entred the same way with the King and then presently another Door was opened below to fill the Hall with the better sort of Company which being done the Play was begun and Acted The Plot was very good and the Action It was merry and without offence and so gave a great deal of content In the middle of the Play I ordered a short Banquet for the King the Queen and the Lords And the College was at that time so well furnisht as that they did not borrow any one Actor from any College in Town The Play ended the King and the Queen went to Christ-Church retired and supped privately and about 8 a Clock went into the Hall to see another Play which was upon a piece of a Persian Story It was very well penn'd and acted and the strangeness of the Persian Habits gave great Content so that all Men came forth from it very well satisfied And the Queen liked it so well that she afterwards sent to me to have the Apparel sent to Hampton Court that she might see her own Players act it over again and see whether they could do it as well as t' was done in the University I caused the University to send both the Clothes and the Perspectives of the Stage and the Play was acted at Hampton Court in November following And by all Men's confession the Players came short of the University Actors Then I humbly desired of the King and the Queen that neither the Play nor Cloathes nor Stage might come into the Hands and use of the Common Players abroad which was graciously granted But to return to Oxford This Play being ended all Men betook themselves to their rest and upon Wednesday Morning August 31. about Eight of the Clock my self with the Vice-Chancellor and the Doctors attended the coming forth of the King and Queen and when they came did our Duties to them They were graciously pleased to give the University a great deal of thanks and I for my self and in the Name of the University gave their Majesties all possible thanks for their great and gracious Patience and Acceptance of our Poor and mean Entertainment So the King and the Queen went away very well pleased together That Wednesday Night I entertained at St. John's in the same Room where the King Dined the Day before at the long Table which was for the Lords all the Heads of Colleges and Halls in the Town and all the other Doctors both the Proctors and some few Friends more which I had employed in this time of Service which gave the University a great deal of Content being that which had never been done by any Chancellor before I sat with them at Table we were merry and very glad that all things had so passed to the great satisfaction of the King and the honour of that place Upon Thursday September 1. I Dined privately with some few of my Friends And after Dinner went to Cuddesden to my ancient Friend my Lord the Bishop of Oxford's House there I left my Steward and some few of my Servants with him at Oxford to look to my Plate Linnen and other things and to pay all Reckonings that no Man might ask a Penny after we had left the Town which was carefully done accordingly Upon Friday September 2. I lay at a house of Mr. Justice Jones's of Henley upon Thames upon his earnest Invitation And upon Saturday September 3. God be thanked I returned sase home to my House at Croyden The week after my Steward and other Servants which staid with him came from Oxford to me where the Care of my Servants with God's Blessing upon it was such as that having borrowed all the King's Plate which was in the Progress and all my Lord Chamberlain's and made use of all mine own and hired some of my Gold-smith I lost none but only two Spoons which were of mine own Plate and but little of my Linnen My Retinue being all of my own when I went to this Entertainment were between 40 and 50 Horse though I came privately into Oxford in regard of the nearness of the King and Queen then at Woodstock There was great store of Provision in all kinds sent me in towards this Entertainment and yet for I bare all the Charge of that Play which was at St. John's and suffered not that poor College to be at a penny Loss or Charge in any thing besides all these sendings in the Entertainment cost me ........ Salutem in Christo. SIR THE Sickness of these Times and my many other occasions made me forget to write to you before the beginning of Michaelmas Term last concerning the Sermon and Prayers usually had at St. Maries at the beginning of Terms which were wont to be not so orderly as they should nor with so good Example to other places at large in the Kingdom as such a University should give For First the Communion was Celebrated in the Body of the Church and not in the Chancel which tho' it be permitted in the Church of England in some cases of necessity where there is a Multitude of People yet very undecent it is and unfitting in that place where so few the more the pity use to communicate at these Solemn times But this abuse I caused to be rectified in Dr. Duppa's time and I hope neither you nor your Successors will suffer it to return again into the former Indecency Secondly tho' none do come to those Solemn Prayers and Sermons but Scholars and those too of the best Rank yet to no small dishonour of that place the Sermon is in Latin and the Prayers in English As if Latin Prayers were more unfit for a Learned Congregation than a Latin Sermon And the truth is the thing is very absurd in it self and contrary to the Directions given at the beginning of the Reformation of this Church for in the Latin Service Books which were first Printed in the beginning of Queen Elizabeth there is an Express both Direction and Charge that notwithstanding the altering of the ordinary Form of Prayers throughout the whole Body of the Kingdom from Latin into English Yet in the Universities such Prayers unto which none but they which were Learned did resort should be in Latin And for my part I do much wonder considering how Publick that Direction was that the University at the beginning of Terms should fall from this Ordinance and so divide the Service and Sermon between Latin and English Upon Consideration of this I acquainted His Majesty both with that Printed Direction of Queen

than other Men of what Rank or Condition soever and therefore excepts from its own general Canon the Cases of Orphans and Widows and the Estates of such Persons as most need Ecclesiastical help or where any Cause in the fear of God requires it In which Cases the Widows and the Fatherless have had much cause to bless God when they have been referred to the Conscience Trust and Care of Bishops But this were in a manner to make them Masters of the Wards or Guardians to them which I know this Lord will not like by any means It would come too near his Office and then he would cry out indeed that this was a greater Distraction of them from their Function to which God had called them than that of the attending poor Widows Tables was to the Apostles And yet he sees what some Canons of Antient Councils have decreed in this Case Besides we cannot have a better or a clearer Evidence of the true meaning of the Antient Canons than from the Practice of the Antient Fathers of the Church who were strict and consciencious Observers of the Canons and yet as is before proved meddled in many and some the greatest Givil Affairs being employed as Ambassadors from great Emperors and Kings And Balsamon observes that whensoever it shall please the Prince to call any Bishops to such Employments they neither are to be restrained by the aforesaid Canons nor censured by them I conclude this Point then that Bishops are not prohibited to meddle with Civil publick Affairs either by Christ's command or by the Apostle's either Doctrine or Practice though all their Practice doth not give an absolute Rule for all future Obedience as their Doctrine doth and I may add not by Canons of Antient Councils rightly understood nor are all of them such Distractions as will bring a Woe upon Bishops or other Clergy-Men though they meddle with them I rather believe some things will be in a woful Case if they meddle not And in some Cases there 's all the Reason in the World they should be not only permitted but some of them commanded to meddle to the end that in all Consultations especially the greatest in Parliament and at Council Table it might be their care to see that Religion were kept upright in all and that nothing by Practice or otherwise pass cum detrimento Religionis Ecclesiae with detriment to Religion or the Church always provided that they do not so entangle themselves in any of these Affairs as shall much prejudice their Function and this done I know no Guilt that this meddling can bring upon their Souls or hurt their Consciences But this Lord having as he thinks concluded the contrary proceeds now to the next Point and says that In the next place this meddling in Temporal Affairs doth 〈◊〉 them and strike them in their Credits so far from Truth is that Position which they desire to possess the World withal that unless they may have those outward Trappings or worldly Pomp added to the Ministery that Calling will grow into Contempt and be despised Good God! How Pious this Lord is and what a careful Friend over the Church First he takes care the Bishops Consciences may not be hurt and now he is as jealous over their Credits But I doubt he is jealous over them amiss For he is of Opinion that meddling in Civil Affairs strikes them in their Credit and he thinks farther that the Position with which they would possess the World in this case is far from Truth Let 's examine this Position then what it is and what it works The Position is as this Lord reports it That unless they may have these outward Trappings or worldly Pomp added to the Ministery their Calling will grow into Contempt First there was never any Age in any Kingdom Christian in which the Bishops were ridden with so much Scorn and Contempt as they are at this day in England and this makes this Lord though he be a very ordinary Horseman for any good Service please himself with Trappings Secondly for the worldly Pomp which he means and expresses the Train of that hath been long since cut short enough in England and he that will not look upon the Bishops with an evil Eye must needs acknowledge it Well but what then doth this Position work Why they may not have these Trappings there will follow Contempt upon their Calling so he makes the Bishops say Is this Lord of that Opinion too No sure for he says The Truth is these things cast Contempt upon them in the Eyes of Men. They gain them Cap and Courtesie but they have cast them out of the Consciences of Men and the Reason is this every thing is esteemed as it is eminent in its own proper Excellency the Eye in seeing not in hearing the Ear in hearing not in speaking The one would be rather monstrous than comely the other is ever acceptable being proper So is it with them their proper Excellency is Spiritual the denial of the World with the Pomps and Preferments and Employments thereof This they should teach and practice Well then the question is Whether the Honour of Bishops and their Employments in Temporal Affairs as they are at this day moderated in the Church and State of England bring Contempt upon them and their Calling as this Lord says or help to keep off Contempt as he says the Bishops would possess the World First I am clear of Opinion that Solomon was almost as wife as this Lord thinks himself and yet he says plainly Eccles. 9. 16. That though Wisdom in its self be far better than Folly yet the poor Man's Wisdom is despised and his Words not heard And we see in daily Experience that a poor Minister's Words are as much slighted in the Pulpit as a poor Man 's in the Gate And therefore these things which this Lord calls Trappings are many times very necessary to keep off that Contempt and Despight which the boisterous Multitude when their Sins are reproved are apt to cast upon them And whatsoever this Lord thinks t is a great Credit and Support to the rest of the Clergy and being well used a great advantage to their Calling that the Bishops and other Eminent Men of the Clergy should have moderate Plenty for Means and enjoy Honour and external Reputation and though it be well known that the Church consider'd in Abstract in and by its self only is not promoted nor advanced by such Employments yet as she is considered in her Peregrination and Warfare she gains by them great both Strength and Encouragement Secondly That which this Lord adds that those things gain the Bishops Cap and Courtesie but have cast them out of the Consciences of Men. 'T is well that these things gain them that For the Age is grown so churlish to that Calling that I believe they would have very little of either were it not for these things as will too soon appear now

would have suffered him to take that place upon him so contrary to the command of Christ and the Practice of the Apostles if it had been so indeed Or would they have suffer'd their Preachers which then attended their Commissioners at London not only to meddle with but to preach so much temporal Stuff as little belonged to the Purity of the Gospel had they been of this Lord's Opinion Surely I cannot think it But let the Bishops do but half so much yea though they be commanded to do that which these Men assume to themselves and 't is a venture but it shall prove Treason against the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdom and an endeavouring to bring in an Arbitrary Government Well! I 'll tell you a Tale. There 's a Minister at this day in London of great Note among the Faction well esteem'd by this Lord and others of this Outcry against the Bishops Votes in Parliament and their meddling in Civil Affairs this Man I 'll spare his Name being pressed by a Friend of his how he came to be so eager against the Church of which and her Government he had ever heretofore been an Upholder and had Subscribed unto it made this Answer Thou art a Fool thou knowest not what it is to be the Head of a Party This Man is one of the great Masters of the present Reformation and do you not think it far more inconsistent with his Ministerial Function to be in the Head of a turbulent Faction to say the least of them than for a Bishop to meddle in Civil Affairs Yet such is the Religion of our Times But 't is no matter for all this his Lordship hath yet more to say against the Ambition of the Prelates For Their Ambition and intermeddling with Secular Affairs and State Business hath been the cause of shedding more Christian Blood than any thing else in the Christian World and this no Man can deny that is versed in History This is the same over and over again saving that the Expression contains in it a vast Untruth For they that are versed in History must needs say 't is a loud one that Bishops meddling in Temporal Affairs hath been the cause of shedding more Christian Blood than any thing else in the Christian World What a happiness hath this Lord that his pale Meagerness cannot blush at such thing as this Yea but he will prove it here at home in this Kingdom For says he We need not go out of our own Kingdom for Examples of their Insolency and Cruelty When they had a dependency upon the Pope and any footing thereby out of the Land there were never any that carryed themselves with so much Scorn and Insolency towards the Princes of this Kingdom as they have done Two of them the Bishop that last spake hath named but instances of many more may be given whereof there would be no end 'T is true indeed we need not go out of our own Kingdom for Examples of their Insolency and Cruelty For in so many Ages 't is no wonder in any Kingdom to find some bad Examples be it of Insolency Cruelty or what you will Especially in the midst of so much Prosperity as accompanied Clergy-Men in those times But 't is true too that there are far more Examples of their Piety and Charity would this Lord be pleased to remember the one with the other As for their bad Examples his Lordship gives a Reason why not all but some of them carryed themselves with so much Scorn and Insolency towards their Princes even with almost as much as this Lord and his Faction carry themselves at this day towards their mild and gracious King And the Reason is a true one it was their dependency upon the Pope and their footing which thereby they had to subsist out of the Land which may and I hope will be a sufficient warning to his Majesty and his Successours never to let in again a foreign Supream Power into any of his Dominions For 't is to have one State within yet not dependent upon the other which can never be with Safety or Quiet in any Kingdom And I would have the World consider a little with what Insolency and perhaps Disallegiance this Lord and his Round-head Crew would use their Kings if they had but half so strong a foreign dependance as the Bishops then had that dare use the most gracious of Kings as they do this present day Two of these Insolent ones this Lord says the Bishop that last spake named Lincoln stands in the Margin by which it appears that Dr. John Williams then Bishop of Lincoln and since Arch-Bishop of York was the Man that named two but because this Lord names them not I know not who they are and therefore can say nothing for or against them but leave them to that Lord which censured them As for that which follows that the instances of many more may be given whereof there would be no end This is a piece of this Lord 's loud Rhetorick which can have no Truth in it especially relating as it doth to this Kingdom only But whereas this Lord said immediately before that their meddling in State business hath been the cause of shedding more Christian Blood than any thing else in the Christian World and in the very next words falls upon the proof of it in this Kingdom I must put him in mind that one Parliament in England namely that which most irreligiously and trayterously deposed Richard II. was the cause of the effusion of more Christian Blood amongst us than all the Bishops that ever were in this Kingdom For that base and unjust Parliament was the cause of all the Civil Wars those Bloody Wars which began in the Heir's time after the Usurpation of Henry IV. and ceased not till there were slain of the Royal Blood and of Nobles and the common People a Numberless Number And I heartily beg it of God that no disloyal Parliament may ever bring this Kingdom into the like distress For our Neighbours are far stronger now than they were then and what desolation it might bring upon us God in Heaven knows So this Lord may see if he will what a Parliament it self being misgoverned may do But will his Lordship think it Reason to condemn all Parliaments because this and some few more have done what they should not do as he here deals by Bishops Sure he would not But having done with the Bishops dependency on the Pope he goes on and tells us farther that Although the Pope be cast off yet now there is another Inconvenience no less prejudicial to the Kingdom by their sitting in this House and that is they have such an absolute dependency upon the King that they sit not there as free Men. I am heartily sorry to see this Lord thus far transported The Pope is indeed cast off from domineering over King Church and State But I am sorry to hear it from this Lord that this other