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A65911	The message from the Hovse of Commons to the Lords by Bulstrode Whitlocke and presented to Their Lordships by him. Whereunto is added His Maiesties most gracious answer to their message, February 22, 1642.	Whitlocke, Bulstrode, 1605-1675 or 6.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.	1642 (1642)	Wing W1987; ESTC R26357	2,894	10

THE MESSAGE FROM THE HOVSE OF COMMONS to the LORDS By Master Bulstrode Whitlocke Esquire and presented to their Lordships by him Whereunto is added His Maiesties most gracious Answer to their Message February 22 1642. H. Elsinge Cler. do Com. C R London Printed by E. Griffin 1642. AT a Conference of both Houses in the painted Chamber Reported againe as followeth by the Lord Roberts to the house of Lords concerning the importance of imbracing and promoving the designe of those Petitioners who desire and hope that the state may be eased of the charge of the Irish Warre by the undertaking of particular adventurers in the houses of Parliament London and the rest of the Kingdome Master Whitlocke WHo managed the conference acquainted my Lords that he was commanded by the house of Commons to present a Vote of that house to your Lordships which being read he afterwards proceeded That whereas your Lordships were pleased to returne thankes lately to the King with the House of Commons for his Maiesties favour expressed in the passing of two Bils much importing the safety quiet and content of this Kingdome and the King had thereupon recommended to both houses the care of Ireland so as these propositions read to your Lordships even with relation to that message were seasonable Then he offered by way of pretension something concerning the tytle which was the vote of the Lords and Commons This he knew your Lordships understood to be but matter of forme for your Lordships consent was that which must make it to be so He then proceeded and offered to your Lordships three motives each begining and concluding the entertainement of this course 1 The reducing of Ireland 2 The proffit of the King 3 The ease of the people of England For the first Ireland was in that condition as not onely the civill power which was wont to be the former quarrell but now even religion the rooting up of the protestant religion and extirpation of the English is the quarrell The rebels are so audacious as to scandalize the King and Queene and the question is not now whether Irish or English but whether the Protestant or Popish Religion shall stand in that Kingdome This Rage of theirs stayes not there they intend to stayne this land with the bloud of Protestants The life and soule of Religion is now at stake and hee made no doubt every good Protestant will lay downe his life and fortune for the preservation of it Then he came to the second motive which he amplified first by way of disadvantage and shewed what a losse it would be to the King to be bereaved of that large and fruitfull Island which was a third part of the Kings dominions yea a third Kingdome He then shewed how much the preservation of it conduced to the Kings profit and how improveable this would be by keeping that now was the time to make him a through King there and to esta●lish the throne which had bin disputed and ●ottering in that Realme these 400 yeares He then proceeded to the third motive and said the people of England have lately undergone many and heavie payments he meant not those illegall payments which were a just punishment to such as would submit to such uniust charges but he spake of the levyes by Parliament the burthen whereof together with the decay of trade our neighbours in the Country were very sensible by those propositions reade to your Lordships the poorer sort will be eased the payments made easie because voluntary and thereupon will be many and chearefull givers who must ever have the honour of a memory to have contributed to so good a worke so as where profit is an ingredient with piety and Loyalty the plaister will be sooner applyed to Ireland When therefore our duty to God and the King may invite to so good a worke he doubted not of your Lordships concurrence with the House of Commons for the good of that which was the good of the Kingdome Having said thus much in generall he offered some thing to the propositions in particular That whereas the first Proposition demanded two Millions and halfe of Acres for the undertakers which might at first sight looke as a great demand to such as know not the extent of that Kingdome which is computed by those who well understood the latitude of it to containe 15. Millions of Acres and therefore to take out two Millions and halfe when two parts of three of that Kingdome are in open rebellion is not so great a demand as may at first sight appeare and the proposition conduceth much to the raising of Rent to the King He said it was well knowne that the revenew of the Exchequer and Court of wards in Ireland did not exceed the summe of 43000 l. yearely besides the Customes which your Lordships found not great except in Monopolies and undue charges what ever the customes are they will be by these propositions much advanced 20 or 30 Thousand pounds a yeare rent will accrew to the Crowne by the reservations in them exprest besides 7 Millions and halfe of Acres over and above the two Millions and halfe desired in the propositions left to the Kings disposall The other propositions which are for the manner of bringing in of the money are very necessary nothing being of more consequence then to dispatch this warre He observed out of Livy that the Romans made their warres great and short some they finisht within 6 some within 10 other within 20 dayes as with the Samnites Latins c. He did not mention this as though it were feasable for us to conclude this warre in so short a time but onely to prove by the Actions of that great State that nothing is more advantageous to a State then the speedy dispatch of a warre and he hopes that if this money comes in the warre of Ireland might be brought to a short issue he added that he remembred with griefe the former obstructions for Ireland but he now hopeth by the King and your Lordships concurrences that delayes will be turned into dispatches and this was necessary because forragine Princes though now otherwise imployed will be a wakened by a lasting warre to take care of our affaires He observeth the course of Irelands first plantation to suite much to this propounded King William the first gave leave to 12 Knights to goe into Wales to get what they could and to plant themselves there from those descended Richard le strong bow first Earle of Pembrooke who made the first impression in that Kingdome Of which Geraldus Cambrensis saith that it should be maintain'd Multis caedibus crebris Conflictibus multoque certamine he hopeth the course now in hand will give a period to that Conquest and this prophesie and that those intended plantations may be as prosperous to settle as the former to gaine that Kingdome Wherefore this worke being so full of piety honour and charity none shall need to speake for it the workes speake for it selfe And so delivering the vote of that house to your Lordships he concluded the Conference His Maiesties most gracious Answer to the Message of the House of Commons to the Lords HIs Majesty being very glad to receive any proposition that may repaire the calamitie of his distressed Kingdome of Ireland especially when it may be without burthen or Imposition and for the ease of his good Subjects of this Kingdome hath graciously considered the overture made by both Horses of Parliament to that purpose and returnes this answer That as he hath offered and is still ready to venture his owne Royall person for the recovery of that Kingdome if his Parliament shall advise him thereunto soe he will not deny to contribute any other assistance he can to that service by parting with any profit or advantage of his owne there and therefore relying upon the wisdome of this Parliament doth consent to every proposition now made to him without taking time to examine whether this course may not retard the reducing of that Kingdome by exasperating the Rebells and rendering them desperate of being receaved into grace If they shall returne to their obedience and his Majesty will be ready to give his Royall Assent as to all such Bills as shall be tendered unto him by his Parliament to the Confirmation of every particular of this proposition c. H. ELSYNGE Cler-Parl D. Com.