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A56281 Remarks of A. Pulton, master in the Savoy, upon Dr Tho. Tenison's late narrative with a confutation of the doctors rule of faith, and a reply to A. Chresners pretended Vindication. Pulton, A. (Andrew), 1654-1710. 1687 (1687) Wing P4207; ESTC R5578 30,730 54

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Greek and Roman Emperours and of the Kings of Hierusalem France Spain England Aragon Cyprus and Hungary 'T was held in the year of our Lord 1215. by the Authority of Pope Innocent the III. in the time of the Emperour Frederick the II. For recovering the Holy-Land from the Turks and against the Heresies of the Albigenses and Almaricus and the Errours of Abbot Joachim In the midst of this Discourse about the Lateran Conf. p. 15. Council the Dr. brings in the passage of the Impertinent School-master with his Picture which ought to have been alledg'd six Pages before From Father Walsh the Dr. passes to A. P's Breviary Conf. p. 16. and Written Paper though A. P. produc'd no such Paper and having shew'd in one Paragraph how the question of Transubstantiation c. was now agreed on and that he appeal'd to the Fathers Though he would not take them for his Infallible Judge he presently taxes A. P. that he would p. 17. fix to nothing and soon after complains of Mr. M. whom the Dr. himself to avoid the hearing A. P's Testimonies had provok'd to it That he was drawing p 18. them away from their point So that here 's fixing and no fixing almost in a Breath But here Mr. M. intends to have a word with the Dr. The Dr. then says That He desir'd A. P. to read p. 19. out of his printed Paper the place out of Justin Martyr Which is a Misrepresentation For A. P. having at least twenty times offer'd at it in vain at last took occasion of the Dr's being out of Breath to oblige him to hear it After this the Dr. having given in his Narrative a far different Account of his Sense of the Real Presence from what he did in the Conference it self as appears in A. P's Account to which the Reader A. P 's Account of Conf. p. 12. is referr'd where he first granted it and then said he would not speak to that Point passes on to a Quaery put to A. P. by Mr. D. A. C. viz. What Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 20. kind of Phylosophy that was which maintain'd that Accidents subsisted without Substance and tells you that A. P. saying 'T was true Philosophy D. T. himself ask'd Whether it was true Philosophy to say there was Whiteness without a white thing c. And that it was answer'd GOD could do this A. P. stands to his Answer and desires to know of this Church-Divine who measures his Faith by his Phylosophy By what principle of Phylosophy he conceives GOD to have made all things of nothing to have Physically united his Divine to our Humane Nature to be Three and One in the same indivisible Substance What Phylosophy teaches the Resurrection of the Dead and the washing our Soul by Baptism Now A. P. has been instructed first to see what Faith Teaches and then to weigh it in the Ballance of Phylosophy and if it surpass the reach of Natural Discourse rather to renounce the Principles of Phylosophy than the Articles of his Faith. As for the Contradiction Mr. D. A. C. is said to have discover'd in the Doctrine of Transubstantiation A. P. asserts that Mr. D. A. C. shall never with all his skill in Logick be able to make a Syllogism that implies a Contradiction in any of the Tenets of the Roman Catholick Church It might be wish'd that the conceited Wits of our Time had more Humility and less Vanity For thence would proceed more Inclination to Faith and less to Atheism Then the Dr. alledges the Testimony of Costerus who grants that if CHRIST be not really present in the Eucharist The Worshiping of it would be worse Idolatry than that of the Laplanders who Worshiped a Red-cloath And A. P. adds that if CHRIST be really there for the belief of which there is fourty to one on A. P's side the denying it Divine Worship would prove the highest Impiety besides the violating a Divine Precept of Eating his Sacred Body incumbent on all who are arriv'd at the years of Discretion This puts me in mind of an Atheistical Expression which fell from one of our Protestant Bigots who seeing beyond-Sea a Person of great Quality and Riches leave all to become a poor Capucin said How will this poor Gentleman be gull'd if after all there be no GOD To which Sacrilegious Impiety a stander by reply'd But how will you be gull'd Sir if there prove to be a GOD To apply this How great will be the Confusion of Dr. T. at the day of Judgement when he shall find the Catholick Tenet true whereas if A. P. should to suppose an Impossibility find it otherwise he will not have the least Reason to appear confounded since he had the same Ground to believe Transubstantiation as the Blessed Trinity Here the Dr. repeats that A. P. was again Confer p 21. desir'd to stick to something where A. P. in near an hour and a half could only edge in two Quotations whilst the Dr. rambled through twenty impertinent Subjects most of which he has misplac'd though here you find him by his own account running on no occasion to that of St. Matthew Hear the Matt. c 18. Church Which every one sees how it was to the Quotations A. P. was always pressing him to A. P. Acc. of Conf. p. 13 14. hear Concerning which see A. P's account The Dr. adds That it was resolv'd that Dr. T. Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 22. should write of this matter and of St. Ambrose St. Cyril and Justin Martyr to Mr. P. and receive his answer In which there is as much Truth as in the matter of Fact he represented in his 4th Page The Dr. would willingly have what he said Ibid. p. 23. touhing Papists being Breakers of their Words to pass for a personal affront put upon A. P. But A. P. has given you a most sincere and modest Account of it in his Relation of the Conference and A P's Acc. of Conf. p. 14 15. Mr. M. being on this occasion most foully aspers'd by the Dr. will add to it what is pertinent The Dr. drawing to a conclusion of the Conference says That having charg'd A. P. with being of D. T 's Acc. p. 24 an Order who had brought in a Foreign Jurisdiction Note That A. P. only spoke of a Spiritual Jurisdiction A. P. asserted That the Pope had had a Right of Jurisdiction here a Thousand Years and that Dr. T. ought not therefore to call it Foreign and that Dr. T. said these were dangerous words A. P. in this matter refers himself to the Judgement of His most Sacred MAJESTY who alone can be injur'd by that Assertion As for what concerns the Bishops and Clergy of the Church of England they must either derive their Orders and Spiritual Power from the See of Rome or else they will never be able to make out they have any at all The Dr. here omits A.
BOOKS lately printed for Richard Chiswell THE Pillar and Ground of Truth A Treatise shewing that the Roman Church falsly claims to be That Church and the Pillar of That Truth mentioned by St. Paul in his First Epistle to Timothy Chap. 3 Vers 15. 4o. A Short Summary of the Principal Controversies between the Church of England and the Church of Rome being a Vindication of several Protestant Doctrines in Ansswer to a Late Pamphlet Intituled Protestancy destitute of Scripture Proofs 4o. Two Discourses of Purgatory and Prayers for the Dead An Answer to a late Pamphlet Intitutled The Judgment and Doctrine of the Clergy of the Church of England concerning one Special Branch of the King's Prerogative viz. In Dispensing with the Penal Laws 4o. Preparation for Death Being a Letter sent to a young Gentlewoman in France in a dangerous Distemper of which she died The Difference between the Church of England and the Church of Rome in opposition to a late Book entitutled An Agreement between the Church of England and Church of Rome A PRIVATE PRAYER to be used in Difficult Times 8o. REMARKS OF A PULTON MASTER in the SAVOY UPON Dr Tho. Tenison's LATE NARRATIVE With a Confutation of the Doctors Rule of Faith. AND A REPLY TO A. Chresners pretended Vindication Published by Authority London Printed by Nathaniel Thompson at the Entrance into Old-Spring-Garden near Charing-Cross 1687. To the Parishioners of St. Martins in the Fields and St James Westminster Gentlemen YOur Learned Pastor the Reverend Dr. Tenison having been pleas'd to his printed Account of a Conference had between Him and Me on the 29th of September last in which he has not only notoriously mis-represented the Matter of Fact but also stuff'd his whole Narrative with several false Aspersions reflecting not only on my particular Person but also on the whole Society whereof I am a Member and on our Holy Mother the Catholick Church of which I profess my self an unworthy Son The Dr. I say having been pleas'd to this Account to prefix an Epistle to you fraught with malitious Insinuations and Calumnies You will not I hope think me guilty of too great Presumption if endeavouring to clear my self from the false Accusations brought against me I though a Stranger making Appeal to you before whom the Dr. has laid his Charge and expect from your Judgement and Candor however prepossest with a good Opinion of the Dr and a Prejudice against both my Religion and Order a fair and equitable Hearing The Dr. begins his Epistle to you with a Complaint of many false Reports and Papers industriously spread by some of the less sincere and less generous Romanists Now as I protest an utter Abhorrence of all such unworthy Proceedings so I cannot easily believe any Catholick to have been guilty of them without some more sufficient Testimony than the Dr's Word of whose insincere and disingenuous Actings his Account is a most apparent Evidence And that Letters sent both into the North and West of England bearing date the very day of the Conference and importing that there were at least Eight or Ten Jesuits put to Silence by the force of one Dr's Arguments manifestly shews that the Dr. is not the only person who has Cause to complain of false Reports or Reason to fear That unworthy Ends would be serv'd on the Credulous The Dr. to excuse the Bitterness not to say Scurrility of his Expressions tells you a story of a Person one of whose Names as he Words it was Gubbard who in the time of the Rebellion against King Charles the I. Recommending himself to the Committee at Norwich as a Man Who had a zeal for the same Cause in which they were engag'd took Possession of the Living of Mondesly out of which the Dr's Father was Ejected for his Loyalty That after a few years he Preach'd up Purgatory and other such Points in so open a manner That the Committee turn'd him out again and that in a little time he as it were vanish'd away By this story which the Dr. ushers in with his having a Motive to severe Language towards that sort of men meaning Catholick Priests which few have besides and closes with the Impression it made upon him when he was young and the raising his Suspition and Indignation ever since he would insinuate that this Gubbard was some Jesuit or Catholick Priest which he pretends to prove by his changing his Name his Favour with the Committee and his Preaching of Purgarory Catholick Priests sometimes change their Names thereby the better to shelter themselves from the rigorous Severity of the Sanguinary Laws executed on them by meek-hearted Protestants only in respect of their Function yet if it be consider'd that this is frequently done by other Persons on far different Motives and Occasions it will seem very ridiculous to infer from thence that the Person mention'd by the Dr. was a Priest Nor yet will his Preaching of Purgatory and such other Points evince him to have been a Romanist much less a Priest if it shall be consider'd how many far stranger Opinions were in those days of Liberty vented in the Pulpit and that many years have not pass'd since a very Learned Member of the Church of England Dr. Thorndike Prebend of Westminster and dying in her Communion desir'd an Ora pro animâ to be Engraven on his Tomb. Now to shew how great Favour the Priests and Jesuits found with the Committees of those Times I take the Liberty to inform the World that my Father had six Uncles Jesuits and yet was not only himself committed to Prison by the Rebels for his Religion and his Loyalty to his King but his House was also for a long time possess'd by a Committee Minister and two of his Brethren were for three years Educated in another Committee Ministers house at Kettring in Northamptonshire where they were oblig'd being under Age to go to Schismatical Service though it pleas'd Almighty God of his Infinite Mercy to reduce them afterwards into the Bosom of his Spouse the Catholick Church out of which none of our Family ever dy'd Nor do I believe any one Family in England was more frequently Pillag'd or more severely Sequester'd than Ours yet I bless God I am so far from having my Indignation thereby rais'd against that Party or entertaining any Hatred towards them that I rather glory in our having had occasion to suffer for our King and our Religion I here therefore Challenge the Dr. and his Adherents to make it appear that this or any other Committee Minister was either a Jesuit or Priest of the Roman Church or else must take leave to say that his vending such like scurrilous Suspicions and Surmises at this time of day seem directly to aim at that of which I am unwilling to think him guilty Having return'd this Answer to what is most material in his Epistle I leave you Gentlemen to judge whether he has been so Just or Fair as he pretends or