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A14688 A treatise of Antichrist Conteyning the defence of Cardinall Bellarmines arguments, which inuincibly demonstrate, that the pope is not Antichrist. Against M. George Downam D. of Diuinity, who impugneth the same. By Michael Christopherson priest. The first part. Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624? 1613 (1613) STC 24993; ESTC S114888 338,806 434

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only_o within_o their_o own_o tribe_n for_o i_o can_v assure_v he_o that_o neither_o the_o king_n nor_o the_o nobility_n of_o england_n will_v imitate_v those_o of_o juda_n in_o this_o and_o it_o will_v be_v their_o only_a way_n to_o get_v a_o law_n enact_v that_o their_o generation_n may_v succeed_v they_o in_o their_o ministry_n which_o m._n downam_n seem_v to_o wish_v and_o to_o mislike_v that_o law_n not_o a_o little_a which_o in_o a_o parenthesis_n he_o tell_v we_o have_v otherwise_o provide_v these_o be_v the_o base_a and_o carnal_a cogitation_n of_o these_o new_a ghospeller_n and_o yet_o all_o will_v not_o serve_v for_o they_o shall_v never_o find_v a_o remedy_n for_o this_o their_o grief_n except_o they_o return_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n whom_o they_o may_v thank_v for_o the_o live_n they_o have_v but_o in_o it_o god_n have_v provide_v for_o this_o &_o all_o other_o inconvenience_n that_o can_v any_o way_n arise_v and_o in_o particular_a for_o the_o decide_n of_o all_o question_n and_o controversy_n wherefore_o if_o the_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n will_v have_v a_o end_n of_o this_o of_o their_o bishop_n and_o presbytery_n they_o must_v of_o necessity_n stand_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n judgement_n in_o which_o they_o shall_v find_v bishop_n establish_v and_o yet_o sometime_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n priest_n only_o without_o bishop_n as_o now_o we_o see_v in_o our_o country_n where_o conformable_a to_o that_o which_o in_o their_o judgement_n be_v practise_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o many_o place_n at_o least_o for_o a_o time_n we_o have_v hitherto_o only_a priest_n subordinate_a to_o a_o archpriest_n but_o yet_o we_o be_v far_o from_o mislike_v bishop_n but_o do_v both_o wish_n and_o expect_v they_o when_o our_o lawful_a superior_a who_o succeed_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v see_v it_o convenient_a m._n c._n a_o table_n of_o the_o chapter_n of_o this_o first_o part_n of_o antichrist_n the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v and_o the_o first_o argument_n from_o the_o name_n itself_o discuss_v chap._n i._n that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v a_o certain_a determinate_a man_n chap._n ii_o that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n iii_o the_o first_o demonstration_n that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n four_o the_o second_o demonstration_n chap._n v._n the_o three_o demonstration_n chap._n vi_o the_o four_o demonstration_n chap._n vii_o the_o five_o demonstration_n chap._n viii_o the_o sixth_o demonstration_n chap._n ix_o of_o antichristes_n name_n chap._n x._o of_o antichristes_n character_n chap._n xi_o of_o antichristes_n generation_n chap._n xii_o of_o antichristes_n seat_n chap._n xiii_o of_o antichristes_n doctrine_n chap._n xiiii_o of_o antichristes_n miracle_n chap._n xv._o of_o antichristes_n kingdom_n &_o war_n chap._n xvi_o of_o gog_n and_o magog_n chap._n xvii_o the_o dotage_n of_o heretic_n be_v confute_v with_o which_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o prove_v as_o impudent_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n chap._n xviii_o the_o trifle_n of_o the_o smalcaldicall_a synod_n of_o the_o lutheran_n be_v confute_v chap._n xix_o caluins_n lie_n be_v refute_v chap._n xx._n the_o lie_v of_o illyricus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxi_o the_o foolery_n of_o tylemanus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxii_o the_o lie_v of_o chytraeus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxiii_o the_o argument_n of_o caluin_n and_o illyricus_n be_v confute_v who_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o long_o a_o bishop_n where_o also_o the_o fable_n of_o pope_n joane_n the_o woman_n be_v confute_v chap._n xxiiii_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n three_o book_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o first_o chapter_n wherein_o the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v we_o have_v demonstrate_v hitherto_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o the_o pope_n succeed_v s._n peter_n in_o the_o chief_a princedom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o see_v 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which_o notwithstanding_o he_o have_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n plain_o explicate_v unto_o they_o speak_v in_o that_o sort_n and_o the_o sense_n be_v you_o know_v what_o hinder_v the_o come_n of_o antichrist_n for_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o roman_a empire_n hinder_v for_o that_o their_o sin_n be_v not_o yet_o at_o their_o full_a height_n and_o antichrist_n shall_v not_o come_v before_o who_o shall_v take_v away_o this_o empire_n for_o their_o sin_n therefore_o let_v he_o that_o now_o hold_v the_o roman_a empire_n hold_v it_o still_o that_o be_v let_v he_o reign_v till_o he_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n that_o be_v abolish_v and_o then_o that_o wicked_a one_o shall_v be_v reveal_v so_o do_v the_o greek_a &_o latin_a father_n expound_v it_o s._n cyril_n catechesi_fw-la 15._o dispute_v of_o this_o place_n the_o foresay_a antichrist_n say_v he_o shall_v come_v when_o the_o time_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v expire_v s._n chrysostome_n upon_o this_o place_n when_o 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