immediately from your highnesse by and under your Highnesse letters patents And whereas also by a statute made in the first yeare of King Edward the sixth entituled an Act what seales and stile Bishops or other spirituall persons shall use it was ordained that all and singular Archbishops and Bishops and others exercising Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction should in their processe use the Kings name and stile and not their owne and also that their Seales should be graved with the Kings arms And forasmuch also as it must be highly derogatorie to the imperiall Crowne of this your Highnesse Realme that any cause whatsoever Ecclesiasticall or temporall within these your Highnesse Dominions should bee heard or adjudged without warrant or commission from your Highnesse your heires and successors or not in the name stile and dignity of your Highnesse your heires and successors or that any seals should be annexed to any promise but onely your Kingly seale and armes May it therefore please the King at the humble supplication of his Commons to have it enacted That the foresaid branch of the foresaid Act made in the first yeare of Queene Elizabeth her raigne and every part thereof may still remaine and for ever bee in force And to theend the true intent and meaning of the said statute made in the first year of K. Edw. the sixth may be declared and revived that likewise by the authoritie aforesaid it may be ordained and enacted that all and singular Ecclesiasticall Courts and Consistories belonging to any Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes College Deane and Chapter Prebendarie or to any Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever and which have heretofore beene commonly called reputed taken or knowne to be Courts or Consistories for causes of instance or wherein any suite complaint or action betweene partie and partie for any matter or cause wherein judgement of law civill or Canon hath beene or is required shall and may for ever hereafter be reputed taken and adjudged to be Courts and judgement seates meerely Civill secular and temporall and not henceforth Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall and as of right belonging and appertaining to the Royall Crowne and dignitie of our Soveraigne Lord King James that now is his heires and successors for ever And that all causes of instance and controversies betweene partie and partie at this day determinable in any of the said Courts heretofore taken and reputed Ecclesiasticall shall for ever hereafter bee taken reputed and adjudged to be causes meerly Civill secular and temporall as in truth they ought to bee and of right are belonging and appertaining to the jurisdiction of the Imperiall crown of this Realme And further that your Highnesse Leige people may bee the better kept in awe by some authorized to bee your Highnesse Officers and Ministers to execute justice in your Highnes name and under your Highnesse stile and title of King of England Scotland France and Ireland defender of the Faith c. in the said Courts and Consistories and in the said causes and controversies Be it therefore enacted by the authorities aforesaid That all the right title and interest of in and to the said Courts and Consistories and in and to the causes and controversies aforesaid by any power jurisdiction or authoritie heretofore reputed Ecclesiasticall but by this Act adjudged civill secular and temporall shall for ever hereafter actually and really be invested and appropried in and to the Royall person of our Soveraigne Lord the King that now is his heires and successors Kings and Queenes of this Realme And that it shall and may be lawfull to and for our said Soveraigne Lord and King his heires and successors in all and every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his Highnesse Dominions and Countries by his and their letters patents under the great Seale of England from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint one or moe able and sufficient Doctor or Doctors learned in the Civill Law to bee his and their civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers of justice in the same civill secular and temporall Courts and Consistories which in and over his and their royall name stile and dignitie shall as Judge and Judges doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things whatsoever in and about the execution of justice and equitie in those Courts according to the course and order of the civill Law or the Ecclesiasticall canons and constitutions of the Realme as heretofore hath beene used and accustomed to bee done by for or in the name of any Archbishops Bishops Colledge Cathedrall Church Deane Archdeacon Prebendary or any other Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever And that all and every such civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers Judge and Judges in his and their processe shall use one manner of Seal only and none other having graved decently therin your Kingly armes with certaine characters for the knowledge of the Diocesse or Shire And further be it enacted c. That it shall and may be lawfull by the authoritie aforesaid for our said Soveraigne Lord the King his heires and successors from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint by his and their Highnesse Letters Patents under the great Seale of England for every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his or their highnesse Dominions one or more able and sufficient persons learned in the Civill Law to be his and their Notarie and Notaries Register and Registers by him and themselves or by his or their lawfull Deputie or Deputies to doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things as heretofore â—â— the Courts and Consistories Ecclesiasticall aforesaid hath beene and â—ow are incident and appertaining to the office of any Register or Notarie And further at the humble suit of the Commons c. it may please the King to have it enacted that all and singular matters of Wills and Testaments with all and every their appendices that all and singular matters of Spousals and Marriages with their accessories that all and singular matters of defamation heretofore determinable in the Ecclesiasticall Courts and if there bee any other causes of the like meere civill nature shall bee heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Iudges in the said civill and secular Courts according to the due course of the civill Law or statutes of the Realme in that behalfe provided And that all matters of Tythes Dilapidations repayre of Churches and if there bee any other of like nature with their accessories and appendices shall be heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Judges in the said Civill and Secular Courts according to the Kings Ecclesiasticall Lawes Statutes and customes of the Realme in that behalfe heretofore used or hereafter by the King and Parliament to be established And at the humble suite of the Commons may it please the King to
written of the common law is reported hath beene in times passed presented and punished in leets and law-dayes in divers parts of the Realme by the name of Letherwhyte which is as the booke saith an ancient Saxon terme And the Lord of the Leet where it hath beene presented hath ever had a fine for the same offence By the statute of those that be borne beyond the seas it appeareth that the King hath cognizance 25. Ed 3. of some bastardy And now in most cases of bastardie if not in all by the statute of Eliz. the reputed father of a bastard borne is lyable to be punished at the discretion of the justices of peace Touching perjurie if a man lose his action by a false verdict in plea Perjurie if punishable temporally in some cases why not in all of land he shall have an attaint in the Kings Court to punish the perjurie and to reforme the falsitie And by divers statutes it appeareth that the Kings temporall Officers may punish perjurie committed in the Kings temporall Courts And though it be true that such perjury as hath risen upon causes reputed spirituall have beene in times past punished only by Ecclesiastical power and censures of the Church yet hereupon it followeth not that the perjurie it selfe is a meere spirituall and not a temporall crime or matter or that the same might not to be civily punished By a statute of Westminster 25. Edw. 3. it was accorded that the Vsurie King and his heires shall have the cognizance of the usurers dead and that the Ordinaries have cognizance of usurers on life to make compulsion by censures of the Church for sinne and to make restitution of the usuries taken against the lawes of holy Church And by another statute it is provided that usuries shall not turne against any being â—0 h. 3. â— 5. within age after the time of the death of his Ancestor untill his full age But the usurie with the principall debt which was before the death of his ancestor did remaine and turne against the heire And because all usurie being forbidden by the law of God is sinne and detestable it was enacted that all usurie lone and forbearing of money c. giving dayes c. shall be punished according to the forme of that Act. And that every such offender shall also bee punished and corrected according to the Ecclesiasticall lawes before that time made against usurie By all which statutes it seemeth that the cognizance and reformation of usurie by the lawes of the Realme pertaineth onely to the King unlesse the King by his Law permit the Church to correct the same by the censures of the Church as a sin committed against the holy law of God Touching heresies and schismes albeit the Bishops by their Episcopall and ordinarie spirituall power grounded upon Canon law or an evill custome have used by definitive sentence pronounced in their Consistories to condemn men for heretikes and schismatikes and heresies schismes are punishable by the kings laws afterward being condemned to deliver them to the secular power to suffer the paines of death as though the king being custos utriusque tabulae had not power by his kingly office to inquire of heresie to condemn an heretike and to put him to death unlesse he were first condemned and delivered into his hands by their spirituall power although this hath been I say the use in England yet by the statutes of Richard the second and Henry the fifth it was lawfull for the Kings Judges and Justices to enquire of heresies and Lollards in Leets Sheriffs 25. h. 5. c. 14. turnes and in Law dayes and also in Sessions of the peace Yea the King by the common law of the Realme revived by an act of Parliament which before the Statute of Henry the fourth was altered may pardon a man condemned for heresie yea and if it should come to passe that any heresies or schismes should arise in the Church of England the king by the Lawes of the Realme and by his Supreme and 1 Eliz c. 1. Soveraigne power with his parliament may correct redresse and reforme all such defaults and enormities Yea further the king and his 1 Eliz. c. 1. parliament with consent of the Clergie in their Convocation hath power to determine what is heresie and what is not heresie If then it might please the king to have it enacted by parliament that they which opiniatively and obstinately hold defend and publish any opinions which according to an Act of Parliament already made have beene or may be ordered or adjudged to bee heresies should bee heretikes If it please the King heretikes may be adjudged felons and heresies felonies and felons and their heresies to be felonies and that the same heretiks and felons for the same their heresies and felonies being arraigned convicted and adjudged by the course of the common law as other felons are should for the same their heresies and felonies suffer the paines of death there is no doubt but the King by vertue of his Soveraigne and Regall Lawes might powerfully enough reforme heresies without any such ceremoniall forme papall observance or superstitious solemnitie as by the order of the Canon Law pretended to bee still in force have beene accustomed And as these offences before mentioned bee punishable partly by temporall and partly by Ecclesiasticall authoritie so drunkennesse absence from divine service and prayer fighting quarrelling and brawling in Church and Churchyard defamatorie words and libels violent laying on oâ— hands upon a Clarke c. may not onely bee handled and punished in a court ecclesiasticall but they may also be handled and punished by the King in his temporall courts By all which it is evident that the Clergie hath had the correction of these crimes rather by a The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some crimes â—â— the law of God belong to the King custome and by sufferance of Princes than for that they be meere spirituall or that they had authoritie by the immediate law of God And if all these as well as some of these crimes by sufferance of Princes and by a custome may be handled and punished spiritually then also if it please the King may all these as well as some of these crimes without a custome be handled and punished temporally For by custome and sufferance only some of these crimes be exempted from the cognizance of the King and therefore by the immediate law of God the cognizance as well of all as of some oâ— these crimes properly appertaineth unto the King And then the judgement of those men who defend judgements of adulterie slander c. to be more temporall and by the temporall Magistrate only to be dealt in seemeth every way to be a sincere and sound judgment Howbeit they doe not hereby intend that the party offending in any of these things and by the Kings law punishable should therefore wholly bee exempted and freed
against us that we which urge the same holy law for the bringing in of the discipline by pastors and elders should notwithstanding contrary to the same law intend the leaving out or altering any one of the three estates But which of the three estates was it that he meant should bee left out I trow there is none of the state of prelacie so ill advised as to take upon him the proof of this position viz. That the Lords spiritual The state of the prelacie is not one of the three estates in parliament by themselves alone doe make one of the three estates or that the statutes of England to this day have stood by their authorities as by the authoritie of those who alone by themselvs are to be accompted one of the three estates For if that were so how much more then might the great Peeres Nobles and temporall Lords challenge to make by themselvs an other estate And without contradiction to this day the commons summoned by the kings writ have ever been reckoned a third estate Now then if statutes have hitherto stood by authoritie of the Lords spirituall as of the first estate by the authoritie of the Lords temporall as of the second estate and by authoritie of the commons as of the third estate I would gladly be resolved what accompt the Admonitor made of the Kings estate It had not beene liegnes nor loyaltie I am sure howsoever hee spake much of the Lords spiritualls dutie and fidelitie in the execution of our late Queenes lawes to have set her Royall person authoritie and state behind the lobbie at the Parliament doore Either the kings Royall person then as not comprised within the compasse and circumcription of the three estates by his meaning which had beene but a very bad meaning must be thought to have beene hitherto secluded from authorizing the statute lawes made in Parliament Or els it is a most cleare case that the Lords spirituall themselves alone do not make any one of the three estates And what matter then of more weight may it happily seeme to be to alter the authoritie of the Lords spirituall and to leave them out of the Parliament when as notwithstanding they being left out the statutes of England may remaine and continue by authoritie of the three estates And it were not amisse for the Lords spirituall to consider that the bodie and state of the weale publike both now is and ever hath beene a perfect entire and complete bodie and State without the bodie and state of Prelacie and that the King and Nobles and Commons of the Realme without Prelates Bishops or Clerkes doe make up all the members and parts of the bodie and of the state and may therefore ordaine promulg and execute all manner of lawes without any consent Anno 36. h. 8. fo 51. h Anno m. j. fo 93. â— approbation or authoritie yeelded unto the same by the Bishops spirituall or any of the Clergie And thus much our Divines Histories and Lawes do justifie Sir Iames Dier Lord chiefe Justice of the Common pleas in his reports telleth us that the state and bodie of a Parliament in England consisteth first of the King as of the head and chiefe part of the bodie secondly of the Lords as principall members and lastly of the Commons as inferiour members of that bodie By a statute of provisoes it appeareth That the holy Church of 25. Ed. 3. holy church founded in the state of prelacie by the King England was founded into the state of prelacie within the Realm of England by the grand father of King Edward the third and his progenitors and the Earles Barons and other Nobles of the Realme and their Ancestors for them to informe the people of the law of God and to make hospitalities and almes and other workes of charitie in These uses are changed to the keeping of great horses great troopes of idlers wiâ—h long haire and great chaines of gold 6 Eliz. c. 1. The King bound to do lawes made without assent of prelates to bee kept as lawes of the realmes the places where the Churches were founded From whence it followeth First that the Archbishops and Bishops only and alone doe not make of themselves any state of prelacie but that the whole holy Church of England was founded into a state of Prelacie Secondly it is plaine that the Kings of England before they and the Earles Barons and other Nobles and great men had founded the holy Church of England into a state of Prelacie ought and were bounden by the accord of their people in their Parliaments to reforme and correct whatsoever was offencive to the lawes and rights of the crowne and to make remedie and law in avoiding the mischiefes dammages oppressions and grievances of their people yea and that the Kings were bound by their oathes to doe the same lawes so made to bee kept as lawes of the Realm though that thorough sufferance and negligence any thing should at any time be attempted to the contrary For whereas before the statute of Caerlile the Bishop of Rome had usurped the Seignories of such possessions and benefices as whereof the Kings of the Realme Earles Barons and other Nobles as Lords and Avowes ought to have the custodie presentments and collations King Edward the first by assent of the Earles Barons and other Nobles and of all the communaltie at their instances and requests und without mention of any assent of the state of prelacie in the said Parliament holden at Caerlile ordained that the oppressions grievances and dammage sustained by the Bishop of Romes usurpation should not from thenceforth be suffered in any manner And forasmuch as the grievances and mischiefes mentioned in the said Act of Caerlile did afterward in the time of King Edward the third daily abound to greater dammage and destruction of the Realm more than ever before and that by procurement of Clerks and purchasers of grace from Rome 31 Ed. 5 sta of â—â—ering the said King Edward the third by assent and accord of all the great men and commons of this Realme and without mention of any assent of Prelates or Lords spirituall having regard of the said Act of Caerlile and to the causes conteyned in the same to the honour of God and profit of the Church of England and of all this Realme ordained and established that the free elections of Archbishops Bishops and all other dignities and benefices elective in England should hould from thenceforth in the manner as they were granted by the Kings progenitors and founded by the ancestors of other Lords And in divers other statutes made by King Edward the third it is said that our soveraigne Lord the King by the assent of the great men and all the Commons hath ordained remedie c. That it was accorded by our Soveraigne Lord the King the great men and all the commons 36 Ed. 3. c. 6 8 Ed. 3. 3. statute of provisours
was common and did continue in the old Churches Besides this inconvenience saith he caused Princes and Bishops so much to intermeddle in this matter Frow whence it necessarily againe followeth that by the holy Scriptures and law of God Princes and Bishops did not entermeddle with that matter atal For had it been simply lawfull for them to have dealt in those causes by the word of God then aswell before schisme discord and dissention as afterward yea rather much more before than afterward For then by their owne right might Princes and Bishops have prevented Bishops nâ—eddle not with election of Pastors by the holy Scriptures all occasion of schism and contention and have so preserved the Church that no tumult or disorder should once have beene raised or begun therein Againe if by the law of God Princes and Bishops had medled in these matters and had not intermedled by humane device then lawfully by their authoritie alone might they have chosen Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches which thing in this place by necessary inference he denieth For schisme saith he caused them to intermeddle So as by his confession they were but intermedlers and entercommoners by reason of schisme and not commoners and medlers by vertue of Gods word And yet now a dayes our reverend Bishops in this case are no more intercommoners with Princes and with the people they ate no more entermedlers as in old times they were but they have now so far incroached upon the prerogatives of the prince and privileges of the people that neither prince nor people have any commons in the election of Pastors Elders and Deacons with them at all Besides if schism and contention among the people Bishops â—n croach upon the â—ighâ— oâ— pâ—â—â—ce and people were the reason why Bishops first entermedled in the choice of Pastours we now having no schisme nor contention about the choice of Pastours by the people and so the cause of ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease But this effect is therefore still to bee continued because otherwise the cause would a new sprout out and spring up againe Nay rather inasmuch as for these many yeares we have had schism discord and dissention because the bishops wholly and altogether have medled in the choise of pastours and have thrust upon the people whatsoever pastours please not the people but pleased themselves and have not suffered the people to meddle no not so much as once to intermeddle in these matters in as much I say as these things be so it seemeth most expedient requisite and necessary for the appeasing and pacifying of this discord and the taking away of this schism to have the manner of election which was in the old Churches restored to the people and this wherein the bishops have intermedled without authoritie from the word to be abolished that so againe the cause of scbism and strife which is now among us ceasing the effect might likewise cease After I had ended this tract in this manner touching this point there came into mine hands a booke intituled The perpetuall government of Christs Church written by Thomas Bilson Warden of Winchester Colledge in the fifteenth chapter of which booke is handled this question viz. to whom the election of Bishops and Presbyters doth rightly belong and whetherby Gods law the people must elect their pastours or no. In which chapter also the matter of schism strife and contention is handled The finall scope and conclusion whereof is as the proposition importeth twofold First concerning Bishops then concerning Pastours The quarrell taken against Bishops doth not so much touch saith hee the office and functions of Bishops as it doth the Princes prerogative When you rather thinke the Prince may not name her Bishops without the consent and election of the people you impugne not us but directly call the Princes fact and her lawes in question As touching this point of the proposition because the people by any law or custome never challenged any right or interest in the choise of the Kings bishops wee have nothing The King only hath power without the people to nominate his Kingly Bb. to meddle or to make about the choise of any of the Kings Bishops Nay we confesse as his highnesse progenitors Kings of England have beene the Soveraigne Donours Founders Lords and Avowes of all the Bishopricks in England without aid of the people that so likewise it is a right and interest invested into his Imperiall crowne that he only his heires and successors without consent of the people ought to have the free nomination appointment collation investiture confirmation of all the Bishops from time to time to be planted in any of those Bishoprickes yea and wee say further that the King alone hath not power onely to nominate collate and confirm but also to translate yea and if it please him to depose all his Kingly Bishops without any consent of his people at all For say we ejus est destruere cujus est construere ejus est tollere cujus est condere Neither will we dislike but rather content our selves that our late Queens Bishops if they shall finde favour in the Kings eyes should be also the Kings Bishops conditionally they submit themselves to the lawes and prerogatives of the Kings Crowne content themselves with the only name of Kingly and Princely Bishops and not challenge any more unto themselves the sole titles of Godly and Christian Bishops as though without injurie to the law of â—od and Gospell of our Saviour Christ they could not bee dispossessed of their Lordly Bishopricks And therefore our most humble prayer to the King is that his Majestie would bee pleased that such his Kingly Bishops may not henceforth over crow and justle out Gods Bishops nor have any primacie over Gods Bishops And withall that the King himselfe would vouchsafe to hearken to the doctrine of such as are indeed Gods Bishops rather than to the Counsell of those who lately were the Queenes bishops As touching the second part viz. whether the people by Gods M. Bilson confirmeth the peoples election of their pastor p. 339. law must elect their Pastours or no Master Bilson by reasons and proofes brought for the first use of it rather confirmeth than impugneth the same For saith hee Well may the peoples interest stand upon the grounds of reason and nature and bee derived from the rules of Christian equitie and societie That each Church and people stand free by Gods law to admit maintaine or obey no maâ— as their Pastour without their liking unlesse by law custome or consent they have restrained themselves Then the people had as much right to choose their 360 Pastour as the Clergie that had more skill to judge that the Apostles left elections indifferent to the people and Clergie at Jerusalem That the Apostles in the Acts when they willed the Church at Jerusalem to choose the seven did not make any remembrance or
bishops and societie against the right and freedome of the law of God against the principles of humane fellowships against that which was in the begining and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not henceforth barre and seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents unto their pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that are schollers unto the Apostles and as servants unto the old way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any longer persist in a cursed and quarrelling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lords spirituall of their own accord shal not readily vouclsafe to yeeld unto us this our right at our intreatie then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the A supplieation to the king by the Lords and commons for the restitution of their right in the choice of their pastors Lords and commons in open parliament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Majesties hand Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and commons in Parliament assembled his majestie would bee well pleased to give his Royall assent to an act to be intituled An act for the restitution of the ancient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people of England ought to have in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papal power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainly confessed the people of all Churches have right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowships and by that which was from the beginning to elect their pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old Churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles have beene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishops of Rome then cannot the people without violation of those lawes rules and grounds by any Episcopall power be any more excluded from their said right and freedome than could or might the ancient jurisdiction of the Crowne of England have beene still usurped by the pope from the Kings of England ADMONITION But alas the common people of England thorough affection and want of right judgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to give their consâ—nt to unworthy men as may appeare in all those officâ—s of gaine or dignitie that at this day remaine in the choise of the multitude ASSERTION The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth us that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thing which might far better have been utterly unthought than once written for could he thinke to win the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately prelacie by upbraiding and charging them to their faces in a book dedicated unto them with affection and wanting of right judgement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their hands And albeit this slander deserved rather to have beene censured by the Commons in Parliament than by confutation to have beene answered yet for the better clearing of the right judgement of the common people giving their consents to most worthy men in all offices of gaine or dignitie remaining in their hands I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincoln Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and townes corporate Majors Sheriffes Stewards Recorders Bailiffes Chamberlains Bridge-masters Clerkes Swordbearers Knights Burgesses and such like offices some of dignitie some of gaine but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is utterly untrue for onely according to their ancient customes priviledges and Charters by the chief Citizens Townsmen and Borough-masters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Major In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and forty sometimes fourteene sometimes twelve sometimes only such as have borne office as Majors Sheriffes and Bailiffs in the same places nominate and elect their new Major Sheriffs and Bailiffes But that the Aldermen principall Towns-men Borough-masters and men having born chief offices in those cities towns and boroughs have easily been wrought by ambitious persons to give their consents unto unworthy men though it have pleased the Ll. Bb. with seene and allowed to have spred and published this saying yet that the same saying is wholly unworthy of any credit to bee given unto it or to bee regarded of any wise and indifferent man let the sober and peaceable elections made of the worthies of the land hereafter mentioned be witnesses The officers in Cities and townes corporate chosen with out contention and ambitious working of unworthy men And to leave to speake of the election of the Lord Major of the Citie of London Sheriffs Aldermen Wardens of companies Chamberlains bridge-masters and other annuall officers of honour and dignitie let us consider whether the Citizens of London have beene wrought by ambitious persons to choose M. Wilbraham M. Onslie M. Bromley to be their Recorders â—ll three afterward the Queenes solicitors and M. Bromly Lord Chancellor of England and let us consider whether the same Citizens as men of affection and want of right judgement did elect to be Recorders of the same Citie M. Serjeant Fleetwood Master Serjeant Flemming Master Serjeant Drue and how Master Crooke a man wise learned and religious and a Counseller and justicer within the principâ—litie of Wales The Recorder of the towne of Bedford is the right honourable the Lord S. Iohns of Bletsoe The Recorder of Bristoll was a long time Master Poppam now Lord chief Justice of England The Recorder of Northampton before he came to be Judge in the Kings bench was Master Serjeant Yelverton a favouter of the truth and an upright Justicer The Recorder of Warnick was Master Serjeant Puckering afterward Lord keeper of the great seale And of the same towne the Recorder now is a worthy Knight descended from a noble house Sir Foulke Grevile The Recorder of Coventrie is Sir Iohn Harrington Knight a man zealous for the true feare of God The Recorder of Chichester was M. Serjeant Lewkner now chiefe Justice in the principalitâ—e of Wales The Recorder of Norwich was Master Cooke the Kings Atturney generall And who soever shall enquire after the names and after the manner of election
Cecill TO the end I may enforme your Lordship of my dealing in this Parliament-time against the undue claimed superiority of the Bishops over their inferior brethren Thus it was Because I was in the Parliament time in the 25. yeare of King Henry the eight In which time First all the Clergie aswell Bishops as others made an humble submission to King Henry the Eighth acknowledging his Supremacie and detesting the usurpation of the Bishops of Romes authoritie Vpon which submssion of the Clergie the King gave unto the said Bishops the same ample rule that before they had under the Pope over their inferiour brethren saving that the same rule was abridged by stature by this parenthesis following that is to say without offending the prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the lawes and customes of the Realme In the later end of the Statute it was added that whosoever offendeth in any one part of that statute and their Aydors Counsellors and Abbettors they did all fall into the penalty of the premunire And after I had recited this statute in the Parliament house I declared that in King Henry the Eight dayes after this There was no Bishop that did practise superio rity over their inferior brethren And in King Edwards dayes the said Bishops obtained a statute whereby they were authorized to keepe their Courts in the Kings name the which statute was repealed in Queene Maries dayes and was not received in her Majesties time that now is whereupon it was doubtfull to me by what authority the Bishops do keepe their Courts now in their owne names because it is against the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England that any should keepe a Court without sufficient warrant from the Crowne Whereupon I was answered that the Bishops doe keepe their Courts now by prescriptions and it is true that the Bishop may prescribe that King Henry the 8. gave them authority by the statute of 25. of his raigne to have authority and rule over their inferior brethren as ample as they had in the Popes time But this was no speciall warrant for them to keepe their Courts by and that in their owne names And yet they have none other warrant to keep their Courts as they doe now in their owne names to my knowledge And this was the cause that made them obtaine a statute in King Edwards dayes to keepe their Courts by in the Kings name Now it is a strange allegation that the Bishops should claime authority at this present to keep their Courts in their own names as they do by prescription because the statute of 25. doth restraine them generally from offending of the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the Lawes and customes of the Realme And no man may justly keepe a Court without a speciall warrant from the Crowne of England as is aforesaid And the generall liberty given by King H. the 8. to the Bishops to rule and governe as they did in the Popes time is no sufficient warrant to the Bishops to keep their owne Courts in their own names by prescription as I take it And therefore the Bishops had done wisely if they had sought a warrant by statute to keepe their Courts in the Queenes name as the Bb. did in K. Edwards dayes In which time Arch. Cranmer did cause Peter Martir and Bucer to come over into this Realme to be placed in the two Vniversities for the better instruction of the Vniversities in the word of God And B. Cranmer did humbly prefer these learned men without any challenge to himselfe of any superior rule in this behalfe over his inferiour brethren And the time hath bin that no man could carry away any grant from the Crowne of England by generall words but that hee must have speciall words to carry the same by Therefore how the B. are warranted to carry away the keeping of their Courts in their owne names by prescription it passeth my understanding Moreover where as your Lordship said unto mee that the Bishops have forsaken their claime of superiority over their inferior brethren lately to bee by Gods ordinance and that now they doe only claime superiority from her Majesties supreme government If this be true then is it requisite and necessary that my L. of Canterbury that now is do recant and retract his saying in his book of the great volume against Cartwright where he saith in plaine words by the name of D. Whitgift that the superiority of B. is Gods owne institution Which saying doth impugne her Majesties supreme government directly and therefore it is to bee retracted plainly and truly For Christ plainly and truly confesseth Ioh. 18. 36. That his Kingdome was not of this world And therefore he gave no worldly rule or preheminence to his Apostles but the heavenly rule which was to preach the Gospell saying Ite praedicate in omnem mundum qnicunque crediderit baptizatus fuerâ—t salvus erit qui non crediderit condemnabitur Goe and preach in all the world whosoever shall beleeve be baptized shall bee saved but he that will not beleeve shall be condemned Mark 16. 15. But the Bishops do cry out saying that Cartwright and his fellows would have no government c. So belike the B. care for no government but for worldly and forcible government over their brethren the which Christ never gave to his Disciples nor Apostles but made them subject to the rule of Princes who ought not to be resisted saving that they might answer unto Princes that they must rather obey God than men Acts 5. 29. and yet in no wise to resist the Prince but to take up the Crosse and follow Christ FINIS
AN ASSERTION FOR True and Christian CHURCH-POLICIE Wherein Certain Politike Objections made against the planting of PASTOURS and Elders in every Congregation are sufficiently ANSWERED And Wherein also sundry projects are set downe how the Discipline by Pastors and Elders may be planted without any derogation to the Kings Royall Prerogative any indignity to the three Estates in Parliament or any greater alteration of the laudable Lawes Statutes or Customes of the Realme than may well bee made without damage to the people IN DOMINO CONFIDO London Printed 1642. To the Right Honourable the LORDS and COMMONS Assembled in High COURT of Parliament Right HONOURABLE c. THe Ensuing Treatise which I am bold to present to Your wisedomes view containes principall politicall reasons grounded upon the Lawes of this Kingdom for the removing of the present Hierarchie and planting of a Governement by Pastors and Elders The appellation of Lay Elders hath beene very displeasing to many whereas the Elder intended to be planted is not lay but in regard of the service wherein hee is to bee imployed Ecclesiasticall The Author was an elaborate Student in the civill Law and a professor of it He was esteemed learned by the best of that profession as also by Divines and common Lawyers learned Sir Edward Cook late Chiefe Justice of the Kings Bench Sir Christopher Yelverton late Judge of the Common Pleas Sir Henry Finch late the Kings Serjeant at Law and others have given testimony of him The Treatise is an answer to diverse passages in a Book written by D. Whitgift late Archb. of Canterbury intituled An admonition to the Parliament The Author as I doubt not but will appeare to your Wisedomes hath written with the spirit of meekenesse and humility submitting all to the judgement of an High Court of Parliament hee disputes with the Great Bishop in a Scholasticall way without one syllable of reviling or bitter language which he ever detested Hee discovers the foundation of the Hierarchie to be totally illegall and to bee abolished by the abolition of the Papall Canon Law which appeares to be abolished by the statute of 25. of Henry 8. cap. 9. The truth whereof being discovered by the Authors means to the said learned Judge Sir Edward Cooke hee did most ingenuously acknowledge and did avow he never understood the statute so well before yet affirmed he thought he had read the said statute an hundred times May it please you in your wisedomes to commend the Treatise to bee viewed by the learned Gent. of the long Robe whose awfull judgments I shall ever honour Most true it is I dare averre there is little written in this Kingdome tending to the removall of the Episcopacie from Legall and Politicall arguments but the Author hath the arrowes in his quiver I say not that others have borrowed light from his Candle Right Honourable and Right worthy I shall humbly take further boldnes humbly presuming upon your Honourable favours if this poore model find acceptance in your sight to present you with a new impression of an abstract written in time of famous Queene Elizabeth a Book well knowne to learned King Iames by the same Author whose memory I am bound by nature to Honour Give mee leave onely now to make knowne unto you the Title and severall Treatises contained in it It is intituled An abstract of certaine Laws Canons and Constitutions Synodall and Provinciall in force within the Queenes dominions and for the most part unknowne to the subject It containeth these principall Treatises 1. That a learned Ministery is commanded by Law 2. That Pluralities are forbidden by Law 3. That it is unlawfull to make a Minister without a title 4. That it is unlawfull for a Clerk to have civill authority This abstract was seemingly answered by the rayling stile of a then Doctor Cozens but by a further incounter and the counterpoyson yet extant written by the same Author he departed the Field with Honour such was the opinion of many learned among others of the foresaid Reverend Judge Sir Henry Yelverton This treatise was never questioned nor quarreld for ought I ever heard Yet was the Author well knowne to many of the Bishops You may happily in your Wisdomes conceive some things might have beene omitted as not wholly incident to the time and some abbreviated in regard of the shortnesse of your time and of the high affaires now in hand But may it please you being about so to doe I found the light must have bin much Eclipsed and the truth obscured I am over bold most humbly to commend the defence of what he writes grounded upon the laws of the Kingdome to your most Honourable protection It shall be enough for me to attend among the meanest of your servants having heretofore had the happinesse to have bin a member though unworthy of the Honourable House of Commons Presenting your honours and your grave wisdomes with my heartiest prayers and humblest service In most humble manner I intreate your pardon of and for The Contents THe defenders of the Hierarchy confesse their government is not apostolicall pag. 2. The bringing in of the discipline desired causeth no alteration of temporall laws nor the officers of a kingdom 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 No feare that prophane men will overthrow the Gospell if the forme of Church government be altered 10. The description of lukewarme professors that will be of that religion the King will be of 11. The Puritan protestants can never overthrow the Gospell 13. Neither can the Papist because he is overthrown by the Gospel 13 The planting of an Apostolicall government will draw no alteration of the Lawes of the Realme 14. The whole Papal Law is totally abolished by the statute of the 25 of Henry 8. c. 19. of the submission of the Clergie as appeares by the body of the statute and the proviso from the 15. to the 20. Canon and civill Lawes no part of the Lawes of the Realme but by sufferance 15 An imbasement for Civillians to have preferment by the offices of the Canon Law that ought not to be used 17 18 19. Whence it followeth that the papall Canon Law being abolished the papall offices and functions of Archbishops and Bishops are also abolished being grounded upon the same Law 20 Power properly and improperly called spirituall 20 21 Bishops remaine ordinary by custome provinciall Canons and statute Law though papall lawes be abolished 21 The King though Supreame governour of the Church cannot give Archbishops and Bishops spirituall power properly called spirituall that power must be derived from the Scripture 20. The Bishops did use a plenary power devised and promulged new Canons without the Queenes assent 23 All the Bishops together can make no new Law and yet every Bishop doth make many lawes 24 All temporall officers do draw their power from the King one way or other 25 The Charter of England confirmeth not the power of Archbishops or Bishops because their power appeares not by the
Scripture to be given them by God and therefore the King and Parliament may be pleased to abolish both them and their power as King Hen. 8. did abolish Monkes and Friars 26. 40. and 28 The challeng for Lordly primacy out of the great charter answered 28 The study of the civill Law and the professors of it may florish more than now they doe 28 Fees for probate of testaments let to farme 29 Fees dew for execution of functions of the Canon Law disproportionable for a Dâ—ctor of the Civill Law 30 An Act of Parliament for the advancement of the Civill Law is set downe and a forme laid for all proceedings in the Courts in which the Civill Lawyers should be Iudges 32 33 It will advance the honour of the King and the good of his subjects to have matters of tithes and testaments and matrimony reduced by act of Parliament to bee tried by the Iudges of the Common Law 37 Matters of tithes and other causes of light nature pertaine to civill justice 37 The temporall law may easily bee applyed to causes now reputed Ecclesiasticall 39 How legacies may be recovered at the Common Law 42 Matters of marriages more fit to bee decided by the Kings officers than by the Bishops 43 Much adâ—e in the Bishops Courts about Accipio and Accipiam 44 The common Law preferred by the Bishops above the Law of God and the civill Law 45 Causes of Adulteries Slander Heresie which by sufferance only have bin exempted from the Cognizance of the King may be arbitrated by the Iudges of the common Law 47 Hierarchy may be judged felony if it please the King 49 The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some by the Law of God belong to the King 50 No impeachment and impropriations in lay mens hands the stat of 15. Rich. 2. and the 4. Hen. 4. being observed for a Vicar endowes yet if it please the King Parliament a law may be made for reducing of impropriations which may bee done First by restitution Secondly by commutation Thirdly by redemption Fourthly by contribution 52 Parochiall Churches to what use they were founded 56 First restitution of many may and ought to be which are now accounted the temporall revenues of Archbishops and Bishops which were given to severall Churches are now spoyled of them by Archbishops and Bishops 55 56 57 58. Secondly commutations may be made of many of the Bishops lands given to superstitious uses for many impropriations in the Kings hand and the hands of many of the Nobility 56 58 59 Thirdly there may bee a redemption made of the same land or buying in of many impropriations by a common purse or treasury which will increase 1. When the people shall be discharged of the burden of Ecclesiasticall Courts 2. The treasure will increase by the dissolution of Chapels of ease and uniting two Parishes into one and especially in great Cities and Towns where often are but small Livings 61 Dissolution of Chapels no new thing Ibid. Chapels the Seminaries of hirelings 62 3. By sequestration of the Livings of non residents 4. By the forfeiture of penall Lawes due to the King 60 61 62 63 Sequestration of the Churches of pluralists may further the treasure for redemption of impropriations 63 By what contributions Impropriations may bee brought to the use of the ministery 63 Fourthly the fourth meanes viz by contribution wherby Impropriations may be reduced to the ministery 63 64 65 How and by what means impropriations may be reduced into the ministery 65 66 None of the three estates in Parliament is lost by removall of the Hierarchy as appeares by severall statutes viz. 25. E. 3. c. 24. 31. Ed. 3. Stat. of Herrings 3. R. 2. c. 3. 7. R. 2. c. 12. 1. E. c. 2. 68 69 70 71 72 73 The state of Prelacy founded by the Grandfather of K. E. 3. 69 The K. having the assent of the Nobles and Commons may repeale statutes without the assent of the Prelates 70 The argument answered in which it is said that it hath been alwayes dangerous to pick quarrels against laws setled 74 75 Lesse danger to reforme the Church by new lawes than to continue corruption by old lawes 74 That argument answered in which it is said that there must of necessity be in every Parish one Pastor a company of Seniors and Deacon or two at the least and all those to be found of the Parish 75 76 77 78 What kind of men ought to be chosen Seniors and Deacons 76 The judgment of the Commissioners of Ed. 6. touching Elders and Deacons 77 The election of Pastors by the people stands upon the ground of reason and nature rules of Christian equity and the law of God therefore by no Law or custome can justly be taken away though actually it was by the Pope 79 to 87 Dangerous to innovate unlesse there be evident utility in innovation 80 The common manner of election in the old Churches was by the people 81 The King without the people hath power to nominate the Kingly Bishop 82 M. Bilson confirmes the peoples election of their Pastor 83 A great difference betwixt the choice of Bishops in England and Pastors 86 No Schisme hapned by choice of Pastors by the people ancient schimes were ever from the election of Bishops 87 88 therefore a Stat. is desired for the giving of election of their Pastors 86 Election of publike officers in Cities and Boroughs is by the principall men of these places 90 91. therefore Ministers may bee elected the officers of Cities and Townes Corporate chosen without contention therefore Pastors may be also chosen 90 The people would be more carefull of their Election than Bishops have been the people could make no choice of insufficient Ministers unles the Bishops did make insufficient Ministers 93 94 The common people accused of backwardnesse in Religion the reason of that must needs be from their ill guides 95 Men of excellent gifts and men of no gifts are unequally matched in the ministery of the Gospell 96 The people may know a man to be a fit Minister though he be not brought up among them 98 What knowledge of a Minister is required in the people before they choose him No partiall suits can follow the election of Ministers by the people 100 The means to take away all symony for places in the Ministry 100 The inconveniences of Bishops ordination set downe 102 As many suits betweene the Bish and the Clerke 2. suits between the Clerke and the Archdeacon 3. suits betweene the B. and the Archdeacon 4. Riots and breaches of the Kings peace 5. unlawfull Fees for Letters of institution 6. unlawfull Fees for letters of sequestration 105. 7. Perjury by the Clerk and robbery by the Patron 8. Chopping of benefices and dispensations 106. A supplication to the Parliament to consider these inconveniences and likewise a briefe way is set downe of the redresse of them 107 Diverse things set down concerning ordination of Ministers
absolutely and as really is revested in the person of the Queene as is the said spirituall authoritie Therefore as all spirituall Officers for the execution of the said spirituall power must have their authoritie derived unto them from the person of the Queene under the great Seale so likewise must all temporall officers for the execution of their temporall offices have the like commission The consequence of which enthimeme followeth not though the antecedent be true For although as well all temporall as all the said spirituall authoritie improperly so called was really and absolutely in the person of the Queene yet hereupon it followeth not that by one and the selfe same meanes alone and namely by a commission under the great Seale all temporall and the said spirituall power in every part and branch thereof should be drawne alike from the Queenes person For there be divers and sundry meanes to derive temporall authority wheras there seemeth to be but one only means to derive the said spirituall authoritie and then marke the substance of the authors argument Some temporall Officers as Stewards of Leets Constables and sundry other Officers must not draw their temporall authoritie from the Queene by a Commission under the great Seale Therefore no spirituall Officers as Archbishops Bishops Archdâ—acons and sede vacante Deanes and Chapters must draw any of their spirituall authoritie from the Queen by a Commission c. Which argument drawne from a particular affirmative unto a generall negative what weaknesse it hath every young Logician can discerne And as for Stewards of Leets though they have no Commission Though all temporall officers draw not their power from the King by the great seale yet by one meanes or other withdraw it from the King under the great Seale yet for the execution of their Stewardships they have a Commission under the Seale of the Exchequer Constables Decennary or Tythingmen and Thirdboroughs have their authorities derived unto them from the Kings person by the very originall and institution of their offices Sheriffs of Countries Coroners Escheators and Uerderors have their offices and their authorities warranted unto them by the Kings writs out of the Chancerie But it was not the minde of the Law-makers saith the Author that the Ordinaries by a commission under the great Seale should draw their said spirituall power from the Queen What the mindes of the Law-makers were touching this point it mattereth little or nothing at all Neither is it to purpose whether a commission under the great seale be necessarily required or not required by vertue of that statute 1 Eliz. c. 1. to warrant the said spirituall power unto Ordinaries Only it sufficeth that the Queen having all power improperly called spiritual invested in her Royall person and being really and actually seised of all the said supreme spirituall authoritie could not have any part of the same spirituall power drawne from her but by some one lawfull and ordinarie meanes or other For if this rule be true in every common person quod meum est sine mea voluntate à me auferri non potest how much more doth the same rule hold in the Royall prerogatives rights priviledges dignities and supremities of a King wherfore to say that all supreme and ordinarie power improperly called spirituall was really and actually inherent in the Royall person of the Queen and to say also that some of the same inferiour and ordinarie power not derived from the Queen was neverthelesse in the persons of inferiour ordinaries is as much to say that some branches of a tree may receive nourishment from elsewhere than from the root that some members of the bodie are not guided by the head and that some streames flow not from their fountaines And now to conclude this part against the Canon Law and their Offices and functions thereof I dispute thus The forraign and papall canon law with all the accessories dependances offices and functions thereof is utterly abolished out of the Realme Therefore the same law is no part of the lawes of the Realm and therefore also it is evident that there will not follow any alteration of the Lawes of the Realme by the taking of it away Which Canon Law also with other lawes and functions how easily the same without any inconveniences may bee supplied shall God willing be presently made apparant if first we shall answer to that challenge which the state of Prelacie may seeme to make for the continuance of their Lordly primacie out of the words of the great Challenge for Lordly primacy out of the great Charter answered Charter Concerning which challenge namely that by the great Charter Lordly Archiepiscopall and Episcopall primacie or jurisdiction belonging to the state of Prelacie is belonging unto them I demand unto what Church this great Charter was granted And whether it were not granted unto the Church of God in England The words of the Charter are these Concessimus Deo hâ—c praesenti Mag. Charta c. 1. Charta nostra confirmavimus pro nobis haeredibus nostris in perpetuum quod Ecclesia Anglicana libera sit habeat omnia jura sua integra libertates suas illaesas We have granted unto God and by this our present writing have confirmed for us and for our heires for ever that the Church of England be free and that she have all her rights and liberties whole and unhurt Now by this Charter if the same bee construed aright there is provision made first that such honour and worship be yeelded by the King and his subjects his and their successors and posteritie unto God as truly and indeed belongeth unto him Secondly that not only such rights and liberties as the King and his progenitors but also that such as God had endowed the Church of England with should inviolably be preserved And in very deed to speake truly and properly such rights and liberties only are to be called the rights and liberties of the Church of England which God himselfe hath given by his Law unto his universall Church and not which the Kings of England by their Charter have bequeathed to the particular Church of England When therefore question is made that by the great Charter the Kings of England are bound to maintaine the rights and liberties of the Church of England wee are to enquire and search what rights and liberties God in his holy word hath granted unto his universall Church and so by consequence unto the Church of England one part of the Catholike Church And this questionlesse was the cause that moved the victorious Prince Henry the eight so effectually and powerfully to bend himselfe against the Popes supremacie usurped that time over the Church of England For saith the King we will with hazard of our life and losse of our Crowne uphold and defend in our Realmes whatsoever wee shall know to be the will of God The Church of God then in England not being free nay having her rights and liberties
according to the great Charter whole and unhurt but being in bondage and servitude to the Sea of Rome contrary to the Law of God the King judged it to stand highly with his honour and with his oath according to the measure of knowledge which then was given unto him to reforme redresse and amend the abuses of the same Sea If then it might please our gracious Soveraigne Lord King Iames that now is treading in the Godly steps of his renowned great Vncle to vouchsafe an abolishment of all lordly primacie executed by Archiepiscopall and Episcopall authoritie over the Ministers of Christ His Highnesse in so doing could no more rightly bee charged with the violation of the great Charter than might King Henry the eight with the banishment of the Popes supremacie or than our late Soveraigne Ladie the Queene could be justly burthened with the breach of her oath by the establishment of the Gospell Nay if the Kings of England by reason of their oath had beene so straightly tyed to the words of the great Charter that they might not in any sort have disannulled any supposed rights and liberties of the Church then used and confirmed by the great Charter unto the Church that then was supposed to be the Church of God in England then belike King Henry the eighth might be attainted to have gone against the great Charter and against his oath when by the overthrow of Abbies and Monasteries he tooke away the rights and liberties of the Abbots and Priors For by expresse words of the great Charter Abbots and Priors had as ample and as large a Patent for their rights and liberties as our Archbb. and Bishops can at this day challenge for their primacies If then the rights and liberties of the one as being against the law of God be duly and lawfully taken away notwithstanding any matter clause or sentence contained in the great Charter the other have but little reason by colour of the great Charter to stand upon their pantofles and to contend for their painted sheathes For this is a rule and maxime in all good lawes that in omni juramento semper excipitur authoritas majoris unlesse then they bee able to justifie by the holy Scriptures that such rights and liberties as they pretend for their spirituall primacie over the Ministers of Christ to be granted unto them by the great Chaâ—ter bee in deed and truth likewise confirmed unto them by the holy Law of God I suppose the Kings Highnesse as a successor to K. Henry the third and as a most just inheritour to thâ— Crown of England by the words of the great Charter and by his oath if once the same wer taken to be bound utterly to abolish all Lordly primacie as hitherto upheld and defended partly by ignorance and partly by an unreasonable and evill custome ADMONITION The use and studâ—e of the Civill Law will be utterly overthrown for the Civilians in this Realme live not by the use of the Civill law but by the Offices of the Canon Law and such things as are within the compasse thereof And if you take those offices and functions away and those matters wherein they deale in the Canon Law you must needs take away the hope of reward and by that meanes their whole studie ASSERTION This collection dependeth upon his former Reason and is borrowed to prove a necessarie continuance of Canon Law and concludeth in effect thus The taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the civill law But the taking away of the Canon Law the offices and functions thereof and such things as are within the compasse of the same will bee the taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians Therefore the taking away of the Canon Law will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the Civill Law But we deny the assumption and affirme that Civilians might have The maintenance of Civilians dependeth not upon the functions of the Canon law farre better reward and maintenance than now they have if the offices and functions of the Canon Law and such things as are contained within the same were simply and absolutely taken away And further we say if there were none other use nor end of the studie of the Civill Law than hope of reward and maintenance by some office and function of the Canon Law that then Civilians should in vaine seeke for knowledge in the Civill Law because without the knowledge thereof and by the onely knowledge of such things as are within the Compasse of the Canon Law they might reape that reward and maintainance Nay sithence by experience we have known that some who never unclasped the institutions of Iustinian out of the same to learne the definition of Civill Justice have beene and yet are authorized to exercise the offices and functions of the Canon Law how should the studie of the civill law be furthered by these offices and functions when as without any knowledge of the civill law these offices and functions have beene and yet are daily undertaken and executed to the full And what man then if there were none other reward for Civilians would ten or twelve yeares together beat his braine and trouble his wits in the studie of the Civill Law when every silly Canonist might bee able and learned enough to sit in the Bishops throne and to be judge in his Consistorie Besides if the Admonitor speake sooth viz. that Civilians in this Realm live not by the use of the civill Law to what end then should he feare an overthrow of the studie thereof For if there be no use of it in this Realme for the maintenance of this life to what use then should men studie the same in this Realme As for the use of it among strangers and forraigne nations without the Realme the same as I suppose is no greater than such as 3. or 4. Civilians may be able well enough fully to deliver the law touching all matters of controversie that may grow to question during the whole space of a Kings raigne If no man lived in this Realme by the trade of brewing Beere but that all Brewers did live by the trade of Brewing Ale what should we need to feare the decay of â—eere-brewers or what use were there of them in like sort if men live only by the use offices and functions of the Canon Law and that men live not as he saith by the use of the Civill law within the Realme what folly were it to studie the one whereas without the knowledge thereof he might live by the other And therefore it seemeth that the Admonitor by his owne weapon as much as in him lay hath given the whole studie of the Civill Law a most desperate and deadly wound And to the end we may understand what reward and maintenance Civilians by the Offices and functions of the Canon do receive yearly for their service and attendance in
any person detaining his tithes and offerings the Hospitall of S. Leonards in Yorke of the Kings foundation and Patronage endowed of a thrave â—ospital of S. Leonard 1 2. h. 6. c 2 of Corne to bee taken yearely of every plough earing within the Counties of Yorke Comberland Westmerland and Lancaster having no sufficient or convenable remedie at the Common Law against such as with-held the same thraves it was ordained by the King in Parliament that the Master of the said Hospital and his successors might have action by writ or plaints of debt or detaine at their pleasure against all and every of them that detained the same thraves for to recover the same thraves with their dammages And by the Statute of 32. H. 8. c. 4. it is enacted That the Parsons and Curates of five Parish Churches whereinto the Towne of Royson did extend it self and every of them and the successors of every of them shall have their remedie by authoritie of that act to sue demand ask and recover in the kings Court of Chancerie the tythes of corn hay wooll lamb and calfe subtracted or denyed to be paid by any person or persons Againe Vicars Parsons or improprietaries do impleade any man in the Ecclesiasticall Court for tythes of wood being of the age of twenty years or above for tyth-hay out of a medow for the which time out of mind and memorie of man there hath only some Meade-silver beene paid or if a debate hang in a spirituall Court for the right of tythes having his originall from the right of Patronage and the quantity of the same tythes do passe the fourth part of the value of the benefice a prohibition in all these and sundry other cases doth lie and the matters are to bee tried and examined in the Kings Courts according to the course of the Common Law unlesse upon just cause there bee granted a consultation And if in these cases in maintenance of the Common Law the defendants have reliefe in the Kings Courts I thinke it more meet to leave it to the consideration rather of common than to the judgement of Canon Lawyers to determine what alteration the Common Law could sustaine in case if plaintiffes as well as some defendants might pray the Kings aide for the recoverie of tythes especially seeing at this day the manner of paying tythes in England for the most part is now limited by the common and statute lawes of the Realm and not by any forraigne canon law But there is some fact Object happily so difficile so secret and so misticall in these causes of tythes as the same cannot without a very great alteration of the Common law Answer be so much as opened before a lay judge or of the hidden knowledge whereof the Kings temporall Judges are not capable Why then let us What facts touching the upholding of tyths are examinable in the Ecclesiasticall courts see of what nature that inextricable fact may be I have perused many libels made and exhibited before the Ecclesiasticall Judges yea and I have read them over and over and yet for ground of complaint did I never perceive any other materiall and principall kinde of fact examinable in those Courts but only such as follow First that the partie agent is either Rector Vicar Proprietarie or Possessor of such a Parish-Church and of the Rectorie Vicaridge farme possession or dominion of the same and by vertue thereof hath right unto all tythes oblations c. apertaining to the same Church and growing within the same parish bounds limits or places tythable of the same Secondly that his predecessors Rectors Vicars c. time out of mind and memorie of man have quietly and peaceably received and had all and singular tythes oblations c. increasing growing and renewing within the Parish c and that they and he have beene and are in peaceable possession of having and receiving tythes oblations c. Thirdly that the partie defendant hath had and received in such a yeer c. of so many sheepe feeding and couching within the said Parish c. so many fleeces of wooll and of so many Ewes so many Lambes c. Fourthly that the defendant hath not set out yeelded or paid the tyth of the wooll and lambe and that every Tyth fleece of the said wool by commâ—n estimation is worth so much and that every tyth Lambe by common estimation is likewise worth so much c. Fifthly that the defendant is subject to the jurisdiction of that Court whereunto he is summoned Lastly that the defendant doth hetherto deny or delay to pay his tyths notwithstanding he hath beene requested thereunto These and such like are the chiefe matters of fact whereupon in the The Kings Iustices are as able to judge of exceptions against tyths as the Ecclesiasticall Iudges Ecclesiasticall Courts proofes by witnesses or records rest to be made for the recoverie of tythes And who knoweth not but that these facts upon proofes made before the Kings Justices may aswell bee decided by them as by any of the Reverend Bishops or venerable Archdeacons their Chancellors or Officials If there be any exception alleaged by the defendant as of composition prescription or priviledge the Kings Justices are as able to judge of the validitie of these as they are now able eo determine customes de modo decimandi or of the use of high wayes of making and repairing of Bridges of Commons of pasture pawnage â—estovers or such like Truth it is that of Legacies and bequests of goods the reverend Bishops by sufferance Legacies how they may be recovered at the common law of our Kings and consent of our people have accustomably used to take cognizance and to hold plea in their spirituall Courts Notwithstanding if the Legacie bee of lands where lands be divisible by Testament the judgement thereof hath beene alwayes used and holden by the Kings writ and never in any Ecclesiasticall Court Wherefore if it shall please the King to enlarge the authoritie of his Courts temporall by commanding matters of legacies and bequests of goods aswell as of lands to be heard and determined in the same it were not much to be feared but that the kings Justices the kings learned Counsell and others learned in the Law of the Realm without any alteration of the same law would speedily finde meanes to apply the grounds thereof aswell to all cases of Legacies and bequests of goods as of lands For if there be no goods divisible by will but the same are grantable and confirmable by deed of gift could not the kings Justices aswell judge of the gift and of the thing given by will as of the grant and of the thing granted by deed of gift or can they not determine of a Legacie of goods aswell as of a bequest of lands If it should come in debate before them whether the Testator at that time of making his will were of good and perfect memorie upon proofs and other
that the King chiefly desiring to sustaine the people in tranquillitie and peace and to governe according to the lawes usages and franchises of his land by the assent and expresse will and accord of the Dukes Earles Barons and the Commons of his Realme and of all other whome these things touched ordained that all they c. By which desire of the King and words of the Act wee learne that our soveraigne Lord King Iames may sustaine his people The king with the assent of the nobles and commous may repeale statutes without consent of prelates 25 Ed 3. in tranquillitie and peace and governe according to the lawes usages and franchises of his kingdome though the assent and accord of Prelates bee never required to the enacting of any statute in Parliament Nay such hath beene and yet is the power of the King that with the assent and accord of the Nobles and Commons he hath authoritie to adnull and make voide even those Acts which in favour of Prelacie and assent of Prelates have beene enacted in Parliament As by an Act made in the time of King Edward the third is plainly to be seene For whereas the King by assent of the Prelates Earles c had willed and granted for him and for his heires certaine articles firmly to be kept and holden for ever namely that the Ministers of holy Church for money taken for redemption of corporall penance nor for proofe and accompt of Testaments nor for solemnitie of Mariage c. should not be impeached c. before the Kings Justices neverthelesse the same king in the same yeare with assent of the Earls Barons and other wise men of the Realme and without assent of Prelates revoked and adnulied the same articles againe Again king Richard the second hearing the complaints of his faithfull leige people and by their clamour in divers parliaments of divers abuses crept in against the solemne and devout ordinations of Churches c at the request and complaint of the commons by the advice 3 R. 2 c. 3. 7 R. 2 c. 12. and commonassent of the Lords temporall without mention of any Lords spiritual is said to have ordained That none of the kings liege people c. should take or receive within the Realm of England any procuracie c. And in the eleventh yeare of the same kings raign it is especially provided that the appeals pursuits c. made and given in the same parliament be approved affirmed and established as a thing Act. Mo. R. 2. duely made for the weale and profit of the king and of all the realm notwithstanding that the Lords spirituall and their procurators did by protestation absent them out of the Parliament at the time of the said judgement given And the like protestation being made by the Prelates and Clergie at a Parliament holden the third yeare of the same king it was replyed for the king that neither for their said protesttation The king bound by his oath to do his laws to be made though prelates protest against him or other words in that behalfe the king would not stay to grant to his Justices in that case and all other cases as was used to be done in times past and as he was bound by vertue of his oath at his coronation By all which premises it is as cleare as the Sun shining at noon day that the Lords spirituall be so farre from making any one of the three Estates as that if it please the king they may not bee so much as any member or part of any of the three Estates at all If in the time of king Henry the eight the Lords spirituall being then more in number than the Lords temporall had beene but such principall members of the high estate of Parliament as without whom neither law could The Lords spiritual no principall members of the parliaâ—ent otherwise than as the King pleaseth have beene made Monasterie nor Priorie might have beene dissolved what could the king have done as head and the Commons have done as feet and the Nobles have done as the heart the Liver and the Longs to the dislording and discloystering of the Abbots and Priors the Monkes and the Friers of those dayes In case the Prelates with their armes and with their shoulders with their hands and with their hornes had heaved and shoved and pushed and thrusted to the contrary But to come nearer unto our owne times and remembrances if it cannot be proved that above one Lord spirituall was present in parliament and gave any assent to the enacting of statutes made in the first yeare of the Queenes Majesties raigne deceased but that it bee a No Lords spirituall present in parliament 1 Eâ— cleare case that the ancient jurisdiction preeminences rights and priviledges of the kings Crowne were restored that poperie and superstition was banished and the doctrine of the holy Gospell harboured only by the Queene the Lords temporall and commons what more plaine evidence or better prooâ—e can there be that the Lords spirituall by any necessitie be neither principalls nor accessaries neither branches nor buds nor any essentiall member of the house of Parliament And of this opinion are the soundest Historians and sincerest Divines of our age In the fifteenth yeare of King Edward the third saith Master Fox divers petitions being put up in Parliament against provisions comming Act. Mâ— fol. 320. from Rome the Kings answer and agreement was made in form following viz. It is agreed by the Kings Earles Barons Justices and other wise men of the Realme That the petitions aforesaid bee made in sufficient forme of law Where it is to be noted saith hee that at the grant hereof the consent of the Bishops is neither named nor expressed with the Lords of Parliament and yet the Parliament standeth in his full force notwithstanding At an other Parliament Act. Mo. 525. saith he William Wicham Bishop of Winchester for a slanderous report savouring of a contumelious lye and proceeding of a subtile zeale meaning falshood was so by the Duke of Lancaster pursued that by act of Parliament he was condemned and deprived of all his temporall goods And this seemeth to have beene done saith Master Fox without assent and against the wills of the Lords spirituall for afterward at an other Parliament great suite was made by the Clergie for deliverance of the said Bishop and being asked a subsidie in the Kings behalfe with great lamentation they complained for lacke of their fellow and brother of Winchester and denyed to joyne themselves in any tractation of any such matter And in another Parliament holden at Yorke in the sixth yeare of King Edward the third all such Act. Mo. 519. lawes as then passed and were concluded by the King Barons and Commons were good notwithstanding the absence or malice of the Lords Spirituall For it is recorded saith he that onely the Archbishop of Yorke the Bishop of Lincolne and the Abbots
Seniour or Deacon Therefore much lesse shall every Parish be burdened to find a company of Seniours c Where the Admonitor complaineth that many parishes are not Tolerable and intolerable Ministers able to finde one tolerable Minister we would gladly learne by what brand tolerable Ministers are knowne from intolerable Ministers according as the Lords spirituall judge or judge not of tolerable and untolerable Ministers For if all reading Ministers as needes with them they must bee or else why doe they tolerate them bee tolerable Ministers what a vaine and idle distinction hath hee coyned touching the scarcitie of maintenance for tolerable Ministers Considering all Ministers by intendment of law bee able to reade and considering also a very small maintenance is esteemed to bee a tolerable maintenance for reading Ministers For else why doe the great Bishops in their great Churches of Commendams and the rich Doctors in their rich Churches of non residencies make so small allowances to their reading and stipendarie Curates And where then is that parish in England that is not able to maintaine a tolerable Minister ADMONITION The next Argument that the people might not choose their Pastours Pag. 78. Elders and Deacons as is required is drawne partly from a feare that the same will be a matter of schisme discord and dâ—ssenâ—ion in many places partly from affection and want of right judgement of the people partly from the unrulinesse of the Parishes and partly from the broyle and trouble which may follow ASSERTION Vnto this objection if I should answer nothing at all but only should The objection of feare c. answered deny that any feare or any other inconvenience at all pretended in this place is to be feared to ensue my simple negation were more to be tolerated than his simple affirmation for by the canon Law non inficienti sed ponenti incumbit onus probandi And yet because Doct. in â—si cui de prebâ—â—â— the Lord hath spoken unto Iosua and in him unto us all that wee should not feare nor be discouraged to observe and to doe all that is written in the law for then sâ—ith the Lord shalt thou make thy way prosperous and then shalt thou have good successe therefore in the word of the Lord I say that none of all this feare broyle trouble or turmoyle is to be feared at all Nay that it is most assuredly and without all doubt to be hoped and looked for that he would so blesse the attempt of putting this order in execution as that the peoples approbation and allowance of their Ministers should be a matter of all peace quietnesse unitie concord good successe and prosperitie to the whole Church of God in England For what an heathenish incredulitie were it for us to reply upon the erroneous conceit of a timorous and suspicious fancy that feare and I wot not what unrulinesse and unquietnesse shall follow when wee receiving the lawes of peace from the Prince of peace have his most stable truth that his peace shall rest upon us and that all feare and evill successe shall cease and vanish away No busie headed body therefore shall be able to leade any man away to disquiet either Church or common wealth otherwise than as the Church in all ages by the malice of Satan and his instruments hath evermore beene disquieted if once the holy law of the Gospell touching this point were observed and put in ure And if it be feared that the choice to be made by the people of God and which is allowed unto them by the holy laws of God would prove to be a matter of schisme discord and dissention how much more reason have we to feare that the fiâ—e of schisme discord and dissention being blowen already should not breake out and fame among us if still one man alone be suffered to thrust upon the people of God not tolerable Ministers according to Gods heart but intolerable Ministers according to mans tradition The Admonitor hath insinuated unto us often in his Admonition that it is dangerous to innovate And so I say too unlesse there be evident â—â—de constitu prim L. 2. utilitie of innovation For saith the Emperour in rebus novis constituendis evidens esse utilitas debet ut ab eo jure recedatur quod diu aequum visum est But is it not as perillous yea sometimes much more perillous not to innovate for proof whereof it shall suffice to take witnesse of our owne times and of our owne experiences It seemed equall a long time and for many yeares that the Sacrifice of the Masse with all the pelf and trumperie thereof should not once be Dangerous to innovate unlesse ther be evident utilitiâ— of innovation spoken against But we all know that the abandoning thereof hath not yet brought any perillous subversion upon any nation that purely and soundly in place thereof hath embraced the holy sacrament of the Lords Supper It seemeth also to be equall for many ages past that the Bishop of Rome might have supreme and absolute power over all persons states and causes not onely in Rome Italy Spaine Germany and other forraigne kingdomes but also in England and Scotland But as yet to the view of all the world it hath not proved perillous for the King and Queene of England and Scotland to establish new laws for the alteration of that ancient abuse And why hath it not been dangerous so to do Why forsooth because there was evident utility in doing of it But how could an evident utilitie appeare before it was done How Forsooth because the holy law of God had warranted an alteration For faith having eyes to see the wisedome the power and the truth of God in his word discerned a far off that the institution of the Lords Supper was long before the sacrifice of the masse And therefore our Kings by abandoning poperie out of the Realme did not institute any new religion but onely they restored the old Now then if a same holy law of God do condemn the choice and thrusting of the pastour upon the people by one man alone and again it the same Law doe impugne the primacie of one pastour over all Pastours as well in a Diocesse or Province as in the whole West part of Christendome what danger can it be not to disfranchise the one sithence without any manner of danger we have abolished the other or what perill can it be not to countenance the sonnes sithence without perill we have discountenanced the father Especially seeing in this place of the admonition wee have a plaine confession that the common manner of election of Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches was made by the people For if the examples of schism discord and contention did commonly appeare in the old Churches while that manner of election did continue then by his owne mouth Common manner of elections in the old churches was by the people that manner of election
and contained in the Scriptures that infants must bee baptized neither is it expressed and contained in the Scriptures that the bishop of Lichfield must have but one wife Yet because it is contained in the Scriptures that God in the beginning brought but one woman unto one man and gave to one woman but one husband I assure my selfe it will not be denyed but that the bishop must and doth content himselfe with one wife and that every Christian ought to bring their children to be baptized Besides if Master Bilson distinguisheth bishops in England from pastours in England and Archbishops in England and Pastors in England two severall orders and degrees of Ministers in the Church of England then I grant that it is neither expressed nor contained in the Scriptures that the people must choose their bishops in England And why but because the Scriptures having put no difference betweene bishops and pastours know no such bishops as we have in England And therefore bishops Bishops in England are only Bb. by the Kings grace and not by divine institution in England being bishops only by the Kings grace and not by divine institution and ordination as pastours in England be hence is it that the Kings of England by their prerogative Royall and not the people by the rule of Scriptures have chosen their bishops in England And for this cause also was it that K. Hen. 8. with advice of the Parliament did resume the nomination appointment investiture and confirmation of his Kingly bishops from the pope As for the nomination of pastours having cure of soules in parishes otherwise than all patrons by right of patronage doe give presentments their choise institution translation oâ— deprivation the Kings of England by their Pastours in parochiall Churches were never placed by the King as Bb. are in their Bishopricks regall power never yet hetherto tooke the same upon them And if the Kings of England by any fact or by any law did never take away the right interest and freedome from the people in choosing their pastours what right other than by usurpation can the bishops have to impose or thrust upon the people pastours without their liking But by custome and consent the people have restrained themselves Hereunto if it were not alreadie sufficiently answered that the people could not lawfully restraine themselves yet Master Bilson himselfe answereth That the late bishops of Rome never left cursing The people lost their consent by cursing and fighting of the Popes and fighting till they had excluded both prince and people and reduced the election wholly to the Clergie By cursing and fighting then have the people beene overruled and excluded and not by custome or consent have they restrained themselves Yea and by vertue of this cursed fight only doe the Bishops of England at this day exclude both Prince and people from medling in the choise of pastours For by authoritie of the canon law made by those late cursing and fighting Bishops of Rome the bishops of England have the sole ordination and placing of pastours over the people And from hence also it is plaine that the peoples right was not by their default or abuse relinquished and forfeited For then the late Bishops of Rome needed not to have cursed and fought for it And now whether it be not meet that the Lord Bishops professing themselves to be Christian bishops should still retaine in their hands and not restore unto Christian people the possession of their Christian equitie and freedome extoâ—ted from them by the cursings and fightings of antichristian Bishops I leave it to the consideration of the reverend bishops themselves Touching the mischiefes and inconveniences of schismes troubles strifes and contentions so often inculcated and so much urged and excepted against the election of the people there is no man able as I thinke to produce any one pregnant proofe out of any ancient or late historie that any king or Soveraigne power hath interposed any supreme authoritie to appease any discord or dissention ensuing or raised upon the bare choise made of any meere parochiall pastour by any faithfull and christian people The schismes strifes and factions that were raised in the old churches sprang out and slowed onely Schismes and contentions spring from schismaticall and proud clergie masters from the heads and fountaines of those schismes strifes and factions and namely from proud ambitious and hereticall bishops and great clergie masters For they being infected and poisoned with the contagion of schisme and heresie and having sowred the mindes of their Disciples with the leaven of their hereticall doctrines no marvaile if the people became followers of the evill manners of their teachers and no marvaile if they verified the proverbe Like master like man like Priest like people Eustatius Bishop of Antioch being a Sabellian heretike was deposed by the Councell of Antioch after whose deposition a fierie flame of sedition was kindled in Antioch Socr. 1. c. â—â— because one sort of the common people sought to translate Eusebius Pamphilus from Caesarea to Antioch some other would bring againe Eustatius Eusebius bishop of Nicomedia and Theognis bishop of Nice being both Arians with their confederates raised skirmishes and tumults against Athanasius after the death of Alexander bishop Socr. l. 2. c. 2 of Constantinople about the election of a bishop there was greater stirre than ever before time and the Church was more grievously turmoyled The people were devided into two parts the one egerly set with the heresie of Arius clave to Macedonius the other cleaved very constantly to the decrees of the Nieene Councell and choose Socr. l. 2. c. 4 Paulus to be their Bishop The cause of division among the Citizens of Emisa about the election of Eusebius Emisenus was for that he was charged with the studie of the Mathematickes and accused of Socr. l. 2. c. 6 the heresie of Sabellius After the death of Eusebius when the people of Constantinople had brought againe Paulus to be their bishop the Arians chose Macedonius The authors and chiefe doers in that stirre were certaine Arian bishops who before aided Eusebius that turned up side downe the whole state of the Church These Socr. l. c. 9 and sundry such like sturres discords factions and dissentions are found to have beene raised and pursued by schismaticall and hereticall bishops their favourites and followers in the old Churches but that these or the like mischieves and inconveniences can be proved to have fallen out by the election of Parochiall pastours in the old Churches we deny And why then should not the interest and freedome of faithfull and Christian people wrested from them by cursings and fightings of faithlesse and antichristian Popes be restored to them againe And the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease And therefore we humbly intreat the Lords bishops that against the grounds of reason and nature against Christian equitie A â—equest to the â—everend
trouble and expence yea and with greater priviledge than he did before Thus therefore touching the office and person of the King the duetie of the Presbyterie and people the right of the Patron and the person of the Minister to be ordained thus and thus we say and thus and thus as we think may our sayings well stand with lawes setled By an act primo Eliz. c. 1. the King hath full power and authoritie by Letters Patents under the Great Seale of England when and as often as need shall require as he shall thinke meete and convenient and for such and so long time as shall please his Highnesse to assigne name and authorize such person or persons being naturall borne subjects as his Majestie shall thinke meet to exercise use occupie and execute under his Highnesse all manner of jurisdictions priviledges and preheminences in any wise touching or concerning any Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction within this Realme of England Againe by the booke of ordeyning Bishops Priests and Deacons it is prescribed that the Bishops with their The Bb. and Priests must lay on their hands Priests shall lay their hands severally upon the heads of every one that receiveth Orders that every one to be made a Minister must be of vertuous conversation and without crime sufficiently instructed in the holy Scriptures a man meet to exercise his ministerie duely that he must be called tried and examined that he must be presented by the Archdeacon and be made openly in the face of the Church with prayer to God and exhortation to the people And in a statute made 21. of King Hen. 8. it is affirmed That a Bishop The Bishops must use six Chapleins at giving of orders must have sixe Chaplaines at giving of orders Besides by an ancient and lowable custome the Parishes and Parish Churches within every Archdeaconrie remaine unto this day distributed into certaine Deanries the Parson or Vicar of the auncientest Church commonly called the Mother Church of the Deanrie unlesse by Every Archdeacon divided into Deanries consent some other be chosen by the Ministers themselves hath the first place and is the chiefe director and moderator of whatsoever things are propounded in their Synodall meeting which Minister also is called Archipresbyter or Decanus curalis according to the appellation of the chief Minister of the mother or chief Church of that Diocesse who is called Archipresbiter or Decanus cathedralis so that unto this day these Ministers meeting at the Archdeacons visitations once in a yeere at the least there remaineth in the in the Church of England a certaine image or shadow of the true ancient and Apostolicall conference and meetings Wherefore from these lawes and from this ancient manner of the meetings of Ministers and of having one principal and chief Moderator amongst them according to the Apostolicall practice and usage of the primitive Church thus already setled in the Church of England wee humbly leave it to be considered by the Kings Majestie First whether it were not meet and convenient for his Highnes by his letters patentes under the great Seale of England to assigne A Minister to be ordained by the Bishops and a â—ompany of Ministeâ—s at the Kings commandement name and authorize the Bishops and six or moe Ministers within every Deanerie continually resiant upon their benefices and diligently teaching in their charge to use and execute all manner of jurisdiction priviledge and preheminence concerning any spirituall ordination election or institution of Ministers to be placed in the Parochiall Churches or other places with cure of soules within Secondly when any Parish Church or other place with cure of soules shall be voide whether it were not meet and convenient that the auncients and chiefe Fathers of that place within a time to be limited for that purpose should intimate the same vacancie unto Vacancie of a benefice to be intimated tâ— the Kingâ— office the office of the Kings civill Officer appointed for that Shire or Diocesse to the end the same Officer by authoritie from the King might command in the Kings name the Bishop and other Ministers to elect and ordaine and the people of the same place to approve and allow of some able and godly person to succeede in the Church Thirdly the Patrone if the same be a common and lay person A Lay patrone insteed of varying his Clerk may present two Clerks at one time having now libertie to vary his Clerk if he be â—ound unable whether it were not meet and convenient to avoide all manner of varying that within the time perâ—â—xed hee should nominate at one time two Clerks to bee taken out of the Uniâ—ersities or other Schooles and Nurseries of the Prophets and that the same nomination be made unto the Bishop and the said sixe Ministers to the end that both the Clerkes being tried and examined by them the abler of the two might be preferred to that charge And of this manner of presenting two Clerkes by the Patrone we have a president not much unlike in the statute for nomination of Suffraganes By which act every Archbishop and Bishop desiring to have a Suffragane hath libertie to name and present unto the King two honest and discreet Spirituall Persons c. that the King may give to one such of the said two Spirituall Persons as shall please his Majestie the title name stile and dignitie of a Suffragane Fourthly the Bishops and Presbyters having thus upon triall and A Minister found able for gifâ—s is to be sent to the parish that his life may be examined and to have the consent of the people examination found one of the Patrones Clerks to be a fit and able man to take upon him the executioÌ„ of the Ministery in that Church whether it were not then meet and convenient that by them he should forthwith be sent to the same Church as well to acquaint the people with their judgement and approbation of his gifts and abilitie to teach as also that for a time he should converse and abide amongst them to the end his life manners and behaviour might be seen into and enquired after by their carefull endeavours Fiftly the people within a time to be perfixed not making and proving before the Magistrate any just exception against his life A man allowed for gifts and Conversation is to be ordained with prayer fasting and laying on of hands A Minister to be inducted into thâ— Church bâ— the Kinâ—â— Writ manners and conversations whether it were not then meete and convenient that the Bishop with sixe â—ther Ministers or moe of the same Deanrie authorized by the King as aforesaid under some paine and within a certaine time should be bound in the presence of the Elders and people and in the same Church with fasting prayer and laying on of hands to ordaine and dedicate him to the Ministerie and Pastorall charge of that Church Lastly these things being thus finished whether it were not
then meet and convenient that the Bishops with the other Ministers and some of the chiefe of the people should give the partie ordained a testimoniall under their hands or under some authenticall seale to certifie the Kings Officer of the execution of his writt and that the Patron also should present the same person to the Kings officer humbly praying the same officer by authoritie to be derived from the King to cause him by some other writt to be confirmed and really inducted into the possession of the same Church and into the Mansion-house glebe-land and other profits Ecclesiasticall to the same appertaining Oh! but this were a strange kinde of innovation and a dangerous To execute the premisses no dangerous atâ—eÌ„pt attempt to alter lawes setled especially in a setled estate of the Church Well well let my Lords of the Clergie sing this song and pipe this melodie at their pleasure How be it forasmuch as this platforme in some part thereof hath already been agreed upon by divers CoÌ„mittees in Parliament in other some part thereof by laws already setled ought to have been practised and that in other some part therof is an advancemeÌ„t of the Kings authoritie which last part also is lively pourtracted out unto us by presidents from the Archb. B. themselves we shall through the grace of God and favor of the King be able well enough quite and cleane to wipe away all the spots of this calumniation And first touching the intimation and supplication to be made unto the King that his Highnes would Petition and intimatioÌ„â—o the King agreeable to lawes setled be pleased to command every Minister to be presented by the Patrone ordained by the Bishop and Ministers and elected by the people and that the King being certified by them of the execution of his writt should upon their Testimoniall by another publike writt cause the Clerke ordained to be confirmed admitted and inducted to the reall possession of the temporalities of the benifice This manner I say of intimation petition testimoniall and admittance in substance and effect differeth but little from the forme of the petition â—â— H. 8. c. nomination election investiture confirmation and consecration of the Archbishops and Bishops of this Realme For whensoever the Church of Canterburie Winton or other Bishops Sea becommeth destitute of a Pastor doth not the Deane and Chapiter of the same Sea intimate unto the King their want of a Bishop and doth not the same Deane and Chapiter humbly supplicate his Majesties favour and licence to elect another and doth not the King upon their supplication by Letters Patents under his great Seale favourably grant their petition willing them ut talem eligant in Episcopum Pastorem qui Deo devotus Ecclesia suae necessarius nobisque regno nostro utilis fidelis existat And with the same Letters Patents doth not the King send a letter missive containing the name and commendation of the person to be elected After the election finished doth not the Deane and Chapiter intimate the same also unto the King and humbly againe pray the King to yeeld his Royall assent to the Lord elected Whereupon doth not the King againe direct his Letters Patents of warrant to the Archbishop or some other whom the King shall appoint to performe all things which accustomably are to be done appertaining to his confirmation and consecration according to the lawes and statutes of his Realme of England Lastly the consecration and confirmation being finished and the Bishop having done his homage and sworne fealtie is not the Kings writt out of the Chancery directed to the Escheator to restore unto him the temporalities of the same Bishopricke Yea and may not the Bishop also if it please him procure another writt out of the Chancery directed to his Tenants commanding them to atturne and to take him for their Lord Now then in this platforme whereof mention hath been made touching the placing of a Parochiall Pastor any Parochiall Church with cure of soules being void when it is craved that the people of the same parish might intimate their want unto the Kings officer and that the same officer might command the Patron to present the Ministers to ordaine and the people according to the Kings lawes to assent unto and approve the Clerk what other intent or meaning have wee then that the King hath as ample and as lawfull a power The King hath as large a power to command a Minister to be elected and ordained as a Bishop to be chosen and consecrated to command a Minister to be presented ordained and elected to be a Pastor in a parochiall Church as he hath to command a Bishop to be elected confirmed and consecrated to an Episcopall sea And are we not then merveilously giddy-headed new fangled and strange innovators Againe when wee desire that the King at the humble suite of the Ministers the Patron and the people would be pleased to confirme and admit the Patrones Clerke in and to the temporalities of a Benefice what other thing is required but that the possession of no Church should be delivered unto any Minister without the Kings publike writt And would not this breed a perillous sturre garboyle discord and contention when the Archdeacons pretie signet as Dagon falling downe before the Arke should give place bow downe and doe reverence unto the Kings of England seale at armes The Prophets ought to be tried by the prophets Oh! but in this platforme there be other dangerous innovations and alterations not to be attempted Yea And what then be they The Admonitor himselfe in his admonition holdeth Yea Master Bilson and all other supporters of the Hierarchie defended That the Clergie ought to judge of the Clergie and that the Prophets ought to be tryed examined ordained only by the Prophets and that the â—piâ—its of the Prophets are subject to the spirits of the Prophets Wherein the coÌ„sisteth the disagreemeÌ„t variance between us them touching the ordination of a Prophet by Prophets or a Minister by Ministers certes to my understaÌ„ding there is no other matter of dissonancie in this case but even alonely this viz. That he by these words the Spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets intendeth Corinth that the Spirits of many Prophets touching their triall examination and ordination are subject to the spirit of one Prophet and that therefore one Prophet by his owne spirit may trie examine and ordaine many Prophets Whereas on the other side we affirme that one Prophet according to this rule of our holy faith Whether the spirits of many Prophets subject to one or of one â—o many is to speake and the other Prophets are to judge and that no one Prophet may tâ—ie examine or ordaine many Prophets Because from this place we gather that the spirits of many Prophets in the ordinary course of the ministerie of the Word were never subjected in this case to the
practice of the Primitive Church would be a meanes utterly to extinguish that schisme that remaineth yet among us that we have no Christian Ministers no Christian Sacraments no Christian Church in England Besides the Ministers for Letters of Orders Letters of Institution Letters of Inductions for Licences to serve within the Diocesse for Licences to serve in such a cure for Licences to serve two cures in one day for Licences to preach for Licences of resignation for testimonials of subscription for Letters of sequestration for Letters of relaxatâ—on for the Chancellours Registers and Somners dinners for Archidiaconall annuall and for Episcopall trienniall procurations the Ministers I say to be nominated elected ordayned approved confirmed and admitted by the Patron by the Presbytery by the People and by the King should be disburdened from all fees for these things and from all these and such and such like grievances Onely for the Kings writts and for the traveile and paines of His Highnesse Officers taken in and about the execution of the same wrâ—tts some reasonable fees as it shall please the King may be taxed and set downe The people also in soules in bodies and in their goods could not be much comforted relieved and benefited They should not henceforth to the perill of their soules have unlearned unable and undiscreete Ministers thrust upon them and set over them Neither should they bee compelled upon light occasions to take many frivolous oaths in vaine They should not bee summoned from one end of the Diocesse unto the other nor be posted from Court to Court and from visitation to visitation The Church-Wardens and Side-men of every Parish should not upon paine of excommunication be constrained once or twise in the yeare to pay six or eight pence for a sheet of threehalfepeny articles They shall not any longer out of the common treasury reserved for the poore beare the charge of their Parishes for making bills visitation and diverse other expenses There should be no more suits at Law between Clerke and Clerke about the Patrons Title no more suites of double quarrell betweene the Clerke and the Bishop no more debate betweene the Bishop and the Arch-deacon and lastly there should bee no occasion of any riots and unlawfull assemblies to bee made upon entries and possessions by vertue and colour of two presentations two institutions and two inductions into one benefice at one time The Patrons as being Lords and avowers of the Churches might have the custody of the Churches during their vacancies and their ancient right in this behalfe restored All swearing of Canonicall obedience unto the Bishops by the Ministers all 31. Eliz. c. 6. swearing and forswearing of Clerkes for any symoniacall bands promises or agreements betweene them and their Patrons and all robberies and spoyling of the Churches by the Patrons should determine and cease Especially if it might please the King and Parliament to have one clause of a Statute against abuses in election of Schollers and presentation to benefices enlarged For although every corrupt cause and consideration by reward gift profit or benefit to present be inhibited by that act yet notwithstanding by experience in many places we finde that the Patrons for small rents and for many yeeres are in possession some of the mansion houses some of the glebe lands and some of the tythes of such benefices as since the publishing of that act have beene bestowed upon Clerkes which breedeth great suspicion and jealousie in the mindes of men that the Clerke and Patron at the beginning directly or indirectly did conspire to frustrate and delude the intendement of the statute And therefore wee leave it to bee considered by the Kings Majesty and Parliament If any Clerke after confirmation A means to restrain patrons from corruption and possession to any benefice hereafter to bee made and given unto him shall willingly and wittingly suffer the Patron of the same benefice or any other person in his name or to his use directly or indirectly mediatly or immediatly to use occupy or enjoy the mansion house glebe land or other ecclesiasticall commodities or any part thereof belonging to the same Benefice In this case I say we leave it to be considered whether it were not meete and convenient that every such willing and witting sufferance by the Clerke and every such willing and witting possession use or occupation by the Patron should not bee adjudged to bee a just cause to determine the presentation to have beene first made upon corrupt respect and consideration And that therefore the Clerke ipso facto to â—ose the benefice and the Patron ipso facto to forfeite his right of Patronage to the King for the two next turnes following And these being the principall reasons and grounds of our desires wee are humbly to pray the Lords spirituall either to convince them of indignitie insufficiency and incongruitie or else to joyne with us unto the Kings Majestie for the restitution of that manner of Government which they themselves confesse to have beene practised at the beginning by the Apostles and Primitive Church but the Admonitor hath yet moe reasons unanswered against this platforme ADMONITION That every Parish in ENGLAND may have a Learned and discreet Minister howsoever they dreame of perfection no man is able in these dayes to devise how to bring it to passe and especially when by this change of the Clergie the great rewards of Learning shall bee taken away and men thereby discouraged to bring up their Children in the study of good Letters ASSERTION In some part to justifie this opinion I grant that no man is able in these dayes to devise to bring it to passe that every Parish should have a Learned and discreet Minister And why because in these dayes not any one Bishop hath afforded to ordaine one Learned and discreet Minister for five Parishes secondly because where some of the Reverend Fathers have ordained and placed in many Parishes many Learned and discreet Ministers some others of the same Fathers have againe disregarded and displaced those learned and discreet Ministers and in their roomes have placed many unlearned and undiscreet Ministers Now then if these dayes wherein so few learned and discreet Ministers and so many unlearned and undiscreet Ministers be ordained and wherein also so many learned and dâ—screet Ministers are disgraced and so many undiscreet and unlearned Ministers graced If these dayes I say were ended then albeit no perfection whereof never any one of us dreamed could be attained unto and albeit no one man were able to devise how to bring it to passe that every Parish should have a learned Minister Yet neverthelesse all good and holy meanes being used to ayme and to shoot after perfection and all good and holy men laying to their heads and applying their hearts to further this enterprise and service unto God we know that the Lord might call and make and fill with the Spirit of God in wisdome and in understanding and
most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life ASSERTION But who taught him to father or to fasten this untruth upon us only then this might suffice for answer that hee did never yet heare any one of our part so much as call much lesse to cry for discipline No discipline by excommunication only called for Discipline by excommunication onely no more to bee suffered by excommunication only For wee say cleane otherwise viz that the Discipline of the Church ought not to be executed as now for the most part it is by excommunication only This manner of discipline therefore by excommunication only is one of the disorders in the Church used by the reverend Bishops and which wee so much desire to bee reformed And for this cause we intreat their Lordships to forbeare the practice of that which as it seemeth they would so faine have others to mislike But happily this was not the marke whereat the Admonitor shot for Bishoply and Archdeaconly excommunication being daily used it is like that he bent his bow and aimed at that excommunication only which is pastorall and Elderly Against which forme and manner of excommunication let be so that some learned men of this age have at large declared in their workes set forth to the world that the same will be of most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of The writings of som learned men not sufficient to condemâ—eâ— excommunication by pastours and Elders life let this I say be granted what of all this must the Church of England therefore dislike and reject the same God forbid The whole doctrine of Faith and Sacraments we know to bee of most men contemned and to be of small force to bring most men from superstitious and popish idolatrie And how then is it possible but that the sword of this doctrine should have as little entertainement amongst most men as the doctrine He that casteth away the kernell will much more despise the shale And hee that setteth light by the sword will set lesse by the scabberd It sufficeth then that the children of the Church in England striving to enter in at the narrow gate and embracing the doctrine of the Gospell it is sufficient I say that they submit and subject their necks unto the yoke of the Gospell for what have we to doe with them that are without Doth the law of England endight condemn and judge a Spaniard resiant in Spaine The Admonitor himselfe affirmeth at the time when our Saviour Christ said dic Ecclesiae that there were many presidents as it page 134 were and governours of the Church together with the chiefe Ministers page 135 The Bb. confesseth that the Minister and Elders did governe in the primitive Church of every congregation nay further hee saith thaâ— he will not deny that the Apostles afterward and the primitive Church did practise the same These some learned men then eâ—ther must shew and prove unto us the children of God in England that this forme of governing the Church and excommunicating by many presidents and go vernours together with the chiefe Minister of every congregation was given to the Churches in the time of Christ and his Apostles but only for that time and that therefore that form is now at an end and ceased or els it must be confirmed unto us that God hath in these dayes altered and changed his mind touching England and that hee hath by some new vision or revelation commanded the Reverend Bishops in these dayes to teach the Church of England that he will not have the same manner of Government used in the Church of England because it would be of most of his Children in England The opinion of some Learned men not sufficient for the Church of England to depart from the word contemned and of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life in them for albeit all the Learned men in the world had declared as much in their workes set forth to the world as is here spoken of what were that to the children of God in England unlesse the same Learned men had taught unto us true learning from the mouth of God How much lesse are we bound to regard what only some Learned men of this age have declared unto us the same some Learned men having no warrant out of the holy Booke of God for such their Learning For if the declaration of some Learned men of this age in their workes set forth to the world may be a sufficient warrant to draw men from the way of truth then hardly let the declaration of Doctor Harding against the true use of the Lords Supper and then let the declaration of Osorius against justification by faith and the declarations of Bellarmine against diverse Articles of our Religion and the declaration of Doctor Allen against the execution of Justice in England and the declaration of Doctor Saunders a rebellious fugitive in the defence of the Popes Bull and the declaration of G. T. for the pretended Catholikes and lastly let the declaration of the Pope and his whole Clergy excommunicating our late Soveraigne Lady the Queen deceased bee received and listned unto For who can deny but that these men were some men and that these some men were also some learned men and who then seeth not the loosenesse the vanity the trifling and the toying of this argument The Argument following which the Admonitor would seeme Page 81. to let passe drawne from experience is of like quality For though experience as hee saith teach that men of stubbornnesse will not By excommunication of Pastors and Elders moe can not bee out of communion than in communion shun the company of such as bee excommunicated and though such men of stubbornnesse must be also as he saith excommunicated for keeping of company with them yet to affirme that by meanes of Pastourly and Elderly excommunication moe will bee excommunicated as being men of stubbornesse than in communion is a very grosse and palpable errour For we hold as the truth is that the greater part of the Church cannot be excommunicated by the lesser nor that many should be excommunicated by a few nor that a few should bee excommunicated by one of the Church And if the common union must necessarily consist of all or of the most part of the faithfull then is the lesser part alwayes out of this common union For what else is excommunication but extra communionem ejectio a casting forth of one or of moe persons from the common fellowship society and company of the faithfull The greatest part whereof and not the least are accompted to be the Church and to be in communion unlesse then the whole Church or the greater part of the Church having once cast out from among them one or moe adulterers blasphemers extortioners or such like
untill hey shall plainly demonstrate unto us that the same is not Oligarchy For if hereafter they shall revoke their former disgracefull judgements against the discipline by Pastours and Elders containing in it the very nature of true Aristocracie and wiâ—hall instruct â—s better of the true nature of their owne government of the Church by Prelacie they shall find us filyable to their opinion so that it be grounded upon the principles and reasons of truth In the meane season after the fashion of the Admonitors manner of admonishing the people wee most humbly beseech the King and Parliament to be enformed that it is greatly to bee feared if Prelacy bee Oligarchie that the Prelates It is to bee feared least by the example of Prelates Oligarchie be brought in the common-weale will endeavour to transferre that manner of government from the Church unto the Common-Weale And that the Common-Weale shall as miserably be rent and torne with factions and uproares as now the Church is disquieted by schismes and divisions For if onely a few of the richest and welthiest sort shall get an head and beare all the sway in the Common-Weale they shall think by the Principles and reasons of Oligarchie that they have injuâ—y if they have not as much to doe in civill mattes as the Prelates have to doe in the matters of the Church And what hereof may follow as the Admonitor leaveth so doe I also leave it to the judgment of other Only if the way hereof already hath beene troden A caveat against Oligarchie out unto them by some who have not written nor spoken but yet practised the principles and reasons of Oligarchie in the Common-Weale onely then this I say and adde as a Caveat that the danger to come is more heedfully to be prevented For like as in good harmony to make the Musicke perfect is required a moderate and proportionate inequality of voices which if it too much exceed taketh away all the sweet melody so by too much immoderate inequality or disparitie of Citizens the Common-Weale falleth to ruine But why may not the Government of the Church by Prelacie The government of the Church by Prelacy is not Monarchicall be a Princely and a Royall Government Indeed this question if it should bee resolved by the Rules and Principles of the Canon Law I could hardly disprove that government to be Princelike for as hath been said before quilibet Ordinarius in Diocoesi est major quolibet Principe Yea and every Bishop by the same Law hath as absolute a spirituall power within his Diocesse as a King hath a temporall power within his Kingdome But because that Law with the rules and principles thereof is or ought to be discarded out of this Kingdome we will not wade in it Only wee say that the government of the Church by Prelacy cannot bee any kinde of Royall and Monarchiall government because Prelates have not like power spirituall as Kings and Monarchs have power temporall For there was never yet lex regia de Praelatorum spiâ—ituali imperio lata qua Praelatis in eos omne imperium suum potestatem aut Deus aut Institut de jure natur gent ci § Sed quod populus Dei contulerit And therefore where the people have made the fore said regall Law as there it is justly said quodcunque Imperator per Epistolam constituit vel cognoscens decrevit vel edicto praecepit legem esse constat and quod Principi placuit legis habet vigorem So likewise where there is no such regall Law made in the Church there it is justly affirmed quod Praelato placuit legis non habet vigorem quodcunque Praelatus per Epistolam constituit cognoscens decrevit vel canone praecepit legem non esse constat And then how can every Prelate or why doth every Prelate by his sole authoritie injoyne Canons Articles Injunctions and orders to bee observed as Lawes in all the Churches of his jurisdiction If the Admonitor supposed the government of the Church by Prelacy to bee Monarchiall because the Queene was a Monarch and that If the government of the Church by Prelacy be Monarchicall theÌ„ may the government by pastors beâ— so to the Reverend Bishop governed under a Monarch then what did he else but put a weapon into the hands of Pastors and Elders to prove their government also to be Princely and Monarchiall Because Pastors and Elders desire not to have that manner of government to bee brought into the Church otherwise than by the Royall assent Soveraigne authoritie and expresse commandement of Our most Gratious King and Monarch Besides if any government may bee therefore said to be a Monarchy because the same is derived from an earthly Monarch how much more than may the government of the Churches by Pastors and Elders bee adjudged Monarchicall by reason the same is deduced from our heavenly and everlasting Monarch For the Reverend Bishops by their publike M. Horne bishop of Winch. M. â—ewell bishop of Sali M. Bilson bishop of Winch. preachings and apologeticall writings testifie that power and authoritie to ordaine and depose Ministers to excommunicate and to absolve to devise and to establish rites and Ceremonies in the Church to define what is truth to pronounce what is falsehood to determine what is schisme and to condemn what is heresie our Reverend Bishops I say confesse this power to be originally decided unto the true Bishops and Pastors of the Church from the Kingly and Soveraigne power of our Saviour Christ By what name therefore soever the government of Pastours and Elders in the Churches be called there is no manner of cause to dislike of the planting of that government in a Monarchy because the same is instituted by No cause for a Monarch to feare that his Christian subjects should have the sense of Aristocracy in Church government the Monarch of Monarches who is able and ready to uphold the state of all Monarchies in Common-Weales together with the state of Aristocracie in his Church Neither is there any cause for any Monarch in the world to feare the making of Christian common people by familiar expâ—rience to have the sense and feeling of the principles and reasons of Aristocracy For if a people have once submitted their neckes to the yoke of Christ they can live a peaceable â—nd godly life under all kindes of powers because they know all kind of powers to be the ordinance of God But especially there is not neither ever was neither ever can there be any cause for any King or Monarch of England greatly as the Admonitor insinuateth to feare that the common people will very easily transferre the principles and reasons Aristocracie to the government of the Common-Weale and thereupon be induced to thinke that they have injury if they have not as much to doe in civill matters as they have in matters of the Church seeing they also touch their commoditie and benefit
temporally as the other doth spiritually And certes it seemeth that the Admonitor was drawne very dry of reason when hee was faine to plucke this stake from the hedge to make a fire and to kindle the wrath of the Magistrate against the forme of Discipline by Pastors and Elders For whether hee intendeth that the Pastors and Elders will think themselves to have injury if they deale not in all causes of the Common-Weale as well as in all causes of their Churches or whether hee meant that the common people wâ—ll easily transferre the government of the Common-Weale from a Kingly Monarchie to a noble Aristocracie there is neither soothnesse nor soundnesse in his meaning For sithence the Leaâ—ned Ministers against the reverend Pastors disclaime to deale in civill matters Bishops by the holy rules of our faith maintaine that it is not lawfull for a Mâ—nister of the Gospell to exercise civill Magistracy and that it is not lawfull for the man of God to bee intangled with the affaires of this life how is it probable that those Ministers will easily oppugne their owne knowledge by their owne contrary practice Or how is it probablâ— that they would overleade themselves with that burthen to ease the Church whereof they have contentedly exposed themselves into a number of reproches contempts bytings and persecutions As for that other intendment of â—he Admonitors that it is gâ—eatly to bee feared that the common people will easily transferre Monarchy unto Democracie or Aristocracy if the principles and reason thereof by experience were made familiar in their mâ—nds this reason I say might seeme to carry some shew of affrâ—ghting a Monarch if the same were insinuated unto a King whose people were never acquainted with the Principles and reasons of Democracy or Aristocracy but this feare being insinuated unto our late Soveraigne Lady the Queene whose people ever since the time they first began to be a people have had their wits long exercised The people of England have their wits exercised with the sense of Democracy Aristocracy with the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles as well of Democracy as also of Aristocracy what sense had the Admonitor to urge this feare That in the Kingdome of England the common people have already the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles of Democracy cannot be denyed For in every cause almost as well of criminall as civill justice some few only excepted to be executed in the Common-Weale by the common lawes of the Realme have they not some hand and dealing in the same by one meane or other Nay which is more have they not the sense and feeling of the making and unmaking their own laws in Parliament And is not their consultations in Parliament a meere Democritall consultation As much also there is to be avowed for the sense and feeling of the reasons and principles of Aristocracy to be already in the minds of the Peers the Nobles the Iudges and other great men of the Realme For are not the Wisest the Noblest and the chiefest taken out of these by the King to be of his Counsell and to be Iudges and Iusticers in his Courts Yea and is not their Assembly also in Parliaments a meere Aristocraticall assembly And what translation then is there greatly to be feared out of the Church to be made into the Common-Weale when the minds of all sorts of our common wealthes men be already seasoned with the things which hee feareâ—h And when the Common-Weale is already seized of the Principles and reasons which he would not have familiarly knowne unto it Wherefore that the King the Nobles and Commons may no more be feared with the strangenesse of these uncouth and unknown Greeke names of Democracy and Aristocracy written in his booke with great and Capitall Letters I have thought it my duty by these presents to informe them that the government of the Church by Pastors and elders now wanting amongst us and desired to bee brought into the Church by the Soveraigne authority of our King Nobles and Commons in Parliament for the outward forme and manner thereof is none other manner of Government nor forme of policie than such as they and their Progenitors and Ancestors for many hundred yeares together without interruption have used and enjoyed in the Common-Weale And that therefore it will be a very easie matter to transferre the same to the government of the The manner of Policie by Pastors and Elders in the Church is agreeable to the government in the common weale The government of the Church by prelacy disagreeable to the government used in the common weale Church For by the reasons and principles of their owne government in the Common-weale and by the sense and feeling thereof they may well bee induced to thinke that they have injury if they have not as much to doe in matters of the Church as they have to doe in matters of the Common-Weale seeing they touch their commoditie and benefit spiritually as the other doth temporally And withall on the other side I shall doe my best endeavour to advertise them that the government of the Church by Prelacy is such a manner of Government as was never yet in the administration of justice by any subject no not touching the outward forme thereof once admitted into any part of Common-Weale and that therefore the same if it may please the King will very easily bee sent and transmarined unto Rome whence it first came and where it had it originall and birthright And to the end that wee may clearely discerne whether the nature of the Government of the Church by Prelacy or the nature of the Government desired to be planted by Pastors and Elders be more agreeable to the nature of the policy received and used both by the Nobles and common people in the Common-Weale it is necessary that the manners and formes both of Prelaticall and Pastorall Government bee made familiar unto the minde of the Reader And because wee have already declared the manner of the election and confirmation both of a Bishop into his Episcopall See and of a Minister into his Pastorall charge what the one is by the Law already established and what the other by a Law desired to be established ought to be wee will not any more speake of their entrance into either of their places unlesse onely a little to recreate the Reader we meerely note what answer some Bishops have made when as long chasing after Bishoprickes they have chafed in their mindes for feare of losing The answer of an Italian Bishop loth to lose his Bishopricke their prey as was the answer of that Italian Bishop who being thrice demanded of the Archbishop as the manner is vis Episcopari vis Episcopari vis Episcopari and being willed by one standing by thrice againe to answer as the manner is nolo nolo nolo Hee making nâ— bones at the matter answered aloud with an The answer of an
intreate our most gracious Soveraigne Lord the Kâ—ng that where in any parish there shall bee found a learned preaching Minister resident upon his benefice that there be would be pleased by his authoritie royall under the broad Seale to enable him and some other godly and faithfull Knights Esquires Gentlemen Citizens Borough-masters or other chiefe men of the same parish to execute spirituall justice against drunkards adulterers swearers railers and such like ecclesiasticall offenders inhabitants only within the same parish For in this case we say as the reverend Bishops say bonum quò communius eo melius If any exception should be taken or challenge made scoffingly and with scornfull termes against these lay parochians as hereto fore hath beene used against lay-Elders or lay-Aldermen No exception to bee taken against lay Elders to be authorized by the king in every parish sithence the King authorizeth lay-Elders in ecclesiasticall commission as they call them let him that taketh such exception advise himselfe well and remember before he speake that in speaking he controle not the policie the practice the wisedome and the authoritie of our late Queene deceased and of our Soveraigne Lord the King now raigning who authorized and doth authorise lay men to bee Ecclesiasticall commissioners Which kinde of lay men or lay Elders as they call them that they have joyned in the exercise of the chiefest censure of the Church viz. excommunication with Ecclesiasticall persons hath beene already proved by the sentence of excommunication pronounced against E. by Master W. and his associates whereof divers were lay men Againe if one lay Elder dwelling at Winchester may call and associate unto himselfe one Ecclesiasticall Elder dwelling at S. Georges in Southwarke to excommunicate any parochian or Minister subject unto the Archdeacon of Surrey in what parish soever of the same jurisdiction the partie shall dwell if it be lawfull I say for every Ordinarie to joyne one lay Elder and one Ecclesiasticall Elder Discipline of excommunication exercised by one lay Elder and one Ecclesiasticall Elder together in commission the one to pronounce sentence of contumacie the other to denounce sentence of excommunication for every spiritual contumacie committed within his jurisdiction what reason can any man pretend why it should not be much more lawfull for the King by his Royall authoritie to appoint a learned and preaching Pastour with the assistance of some companie of faithfull inhabitants of the same parish to exercise all manner of spirituall justice within their owne parish If the King shall stand in doubt whether any Discipline by excommunication bee exercised after this and this manner in the Church of England then to put his highnesse out of all doubt hereof may it please the King to consider the precept of the reverend Bishops made in their convocation together with the practice of the venerable Archdeacon of Surr. following The precept is this Vnusquisque Vicarius generalis Officialis seu Commissarius qui ordines ecclesiasticos non susceperit eruditum aliquem presbyterum sibi Arriculo pro Clero c. de buibusdam circa excom excessib coercend 1584 accerset associabit qui sufficienti authoritate vel ab ipso Episcopo in jurisdictione sua vel ad Archidiacono presbytero existente in jurisdictione sua munitus idque ex praescripto judâ—cis tunc praesentis excommunicationis sâ—ntentiam pro contumacia denunciabit Every Uicar generall Officiall or Commissarie which hath not taken upon him ecclesiasticall orders shall call and associate unto him some learned Presbyter who being armed with sufficient authoritie from the Bishop in his jurisdiction or from the Archdeacon being a Presbyter in his jurisdiction shall denounce and that by the prescript of the judge present the sentence of excommunication for contumacie Now the manner of the practice of this precept ensueth in D. Hones practice of the Bishops aâ—â—icle these words Iohannes Hone legum Doctor Officialis venerabilis viri domini Archidiaconi Surr. omnibus singulis rectoribus c. salutem Cùm nos rite legitime procedentes omnes singulos quorum nomina c. in noÌ„ comparendo coram nobis c. seu saltem in non satisfaciendo mandatis nostris c. pronuncia verimus contumaces ipsoque c. excommunicandos fore decreverimus Cumque discretus vir magister Roul Allen presbyter eosdem omnes singulos subscriptos ex officio nostro excommunicaverit in scriptis justitia id exigente vobis igitur committimus c. quatenus eos omnes c. sicut profertur ex officio nostro mero excommunicatos fuisse esse c. palam denuncietis c Datum sub sigillo officialitatis nostrae 19. Die Decembris Anno Domini 1587. John Hone Doctor of the Lawes Officiall of the venerable man and Archdeacon of Surr. to all and singular persons c. greeting Whereas we otherwise rightly and lawfully proceeding all and singular whose names are under-written in not appearing before us or at least-wise in not satisfying our mandates have pronounced contumacious and decreed them to be excommunicated And whereas also the discreet man M. Rowland Allen presbyter one of our office hath excommunicated all and singular under written justice so requiring wherefore wee charge you that openly you denounce and declare them and every of them so as aforesaid out of our office to bee excommunicated Given under the seale of our officialitie The 19. day of December 1587. By this practice it doth appeare that Doctor Hone and Rowland Allen canvaced many poore men very piteously and that this poore curate Rowland Allen had a warm service to attend upon D. Hone and to jerk those whose points soever hee shall untie But because this precept was an article concluded upon by the reverend Bishops in their convocation and confirmed as I suppose by the Royall authoritie of our late Queene wee will forbeare to speake what we thinke might justly be spoken against the incongruitie thereof Only this without offence to the reverend Bishops wee may safely demand sithence every ordinarie whether he be a Bishop or a Presbyter by this article of their owne device hath such an absolute power resiant in his person as that thereby thorowout his whole jurisdiction he may thus commit the execution of Discipline by excommunication partly to one lay person and partly to one ecclesiasticall person partly to a supposed spirituall elder and partly to a Lay elder sithence I say this is so we may safely demand what reason they can produce to hinder the King from having authoritie to command three or foure The K. hath as good right to command excommunication to be exercised by a Pastor Elders as the Bb. have to commit the same to a Curate one lay Elder or if occasion serve five or six lay elders as they call them and one spirituall pastor being a true spirituall elder in deed all lawfully chosen ecclesiasticall Officers in the house of God that
Bishop then having these two severall and distinct offices imposed upon his person the one by divine the other by humane Law the one humane and Episcopall the other without pomp and pastorall there ariseth from thence this question by which of those two functions hee may lawfully I meane according to Gods Law minister the Doctrine Sacraments and censures of Christ If it bee answered that it is lawfull for him by vertue of his Pastorall office to minister the doctrine and Sacraments and by force of his humane Episcopall office to minister the censures of Christ then is not the answer fitted to the question the same being made à bene conjunctis ad male divisa For the censures of Christ as well as the doctrine of Christ being simply of divine ordinance it must follow if his Episcopall power be onely of humane right and pastorall power be onely of divine institution that the censures may bee ministred by authority derived onely from man but the doctrine and Sacraments by power derived onely from God Which commixion of divine and humane right in the execution of the ordinances of God can no manner of wayes be sound pure and sincere and therefore also can not be pleasing unto God For no more can the censures of Christ to the pleasure of God be lawfully administred by the authoritie of any one whose function is of man and not of God than could the sacrifice of God bee offered by one who was a priest of man and not of God Now that humane Episcopality or Bâ—shoppisme in the Church of England is authorized and deduced from Lordly Episcopality authorized only by the Law of the Realme the power and Law of man viz. of the King and Realme alone is evident as well by the donation and endowment of the Bishoprickes founded by the Kingly Prerogatives of the Kings of this Realme as by the erection and establishment of the new Bishopricks of Chester Gloucester Bristoll Peter borough and Oxford with their Cathedrall Churches Seas Cities meeres and bounds of those humane Bishops for the exercise of their Episcopall administration according to act of Parliament authorizing the Kings Highnesse to make Bishops by His Letters Patents Nay further that humane Episcopall Note that King Henry the eight by letters Patents made Bish therefore c. 31. H. 8. c. 9 jurisdiction within the meres and bounds of every Diocesse within England is meerely of humane and not of divine institution appeareth by that power and authority which the King hath in translating and dissolving of Bishopricks in conserving Episcopall jurisdiction sometimes to such persons as be no Bishops as did William the Conqueror when hee gave Episcopall power to the Abbot of Battaile and lastly by the very manner and forme of the nomination licence of Election and authority of investiture confirmation and consecration of Archbishops and Bishops established by the more positive Law of the Realme But if it bee answered 25. H. 8. c. 20 that the Bishop by his humane Episcopall power doth minister the Doctrine Sacraments and discipline of Christ then is the case worse with him than it was before because then not onely the Discipline of Christ but also the doctrine and Sacraments of Christ should bee ministred by that authority which is of humane institution Besides the answer should be untrue because the Bishop at the time of his consecration doth not receive any authority to preach the Word and minister the Sacraments for that authority was then committed unto him when first he was ordained to be a Presbyter But the authority which hee receiveth at the time of his consecration is to correct and punish such as bee unquiet disobedient and criminous within his Diocesse Whereby once againe is that confirmed which was erst said viz. That Episcopall power in England is not of divine but of humane institution Especially for that by the Scriptures it can not be proved that there bee two severall and distinct formes of ordinations the one called consecration proper to a Lord Bishop for the exercise of Discipline the other called ordination peculiar to a Pastor or teaching Elder for the ministration of the Word and Sacraments Whereunto lastly may bee added another maine reason that Episcopall power in If the Lord Bish have power to minister disâ—ipline by divine right then no more can he commit that his power to an other than he can commit the power which hee hath of preaching to another England to minister the Discipline can not therefore bee of divine institution because if it were of divine institution the Bishop could no more surrogate the same his Episcopall power to his Suffragane to his Vicar generall or Rouland Allen to minister the censures of Christ in his owne name than hee can depute them or any of them to minister the doctrine and Sacraments in his own name But how doth it appeare that the Vicar generall Rowland Allen or any other Presbyter did ever excommunicate by the power or in the name of the Bishop For the proofe hereof we shall not need to search any other authenticall record then the precept and the practice before intreated of For it is not said in the precept that the Presbyter being armed with authority from Christ but it is said that the Presbyter being armed with authority from the Bishop or Archdeacon shall denounce the sentence of excommunication the practice also of Doctor Hone every way confirmeth as much For therein Doctor Hone doth not challenge to be an Officer unto Christ but he saith that he is the officiall of the venerable Archdeacon of Surrey and that Master Rowland Allen Presbyter by vertue of his office doth excommunicate the parties who obeyed not his mandates who made not their appearances before him c. If it be answered that Rowland Allen though he be not an immediate officer from Christ that yet neverthelesse he is a mediate officer depuâ—ed to his office by an immediate officer unto Christ viz. the Lord Bishop or Archdeacon then wee reply and say First that the Lord Bishop and Archdeacon be neither immediate or mediâ—te Officers appointed by Christ to bee ministers of his discipline Secondly if they were immediate officers from Christ that yet they have no authority by the Law of Christ to transfer their right or any part thereof to an other person in their name or by their authoritie to excommunicate As for these words viz. In Dei nomine Amen nos Iohannes Hone or nos Roulandus Allen c. sometimes used in their scedule of excommunication it is but a prophaning of the holy name of God whereby they make themselves guilty of the taking of the glorious name of God in vaine And thus much touching both the question and answer whether the discipline of Christ may be ministred by the Bishops humane Episcopall power yea or no. But now on the other side because no divine censure can lawfully be executed in the Church by that authority
nor only the probate of Wills and granting of administrations but also the cognisance of Ecclesiasticall crimes with power to use the Ecclesiasticall censures Yea and this authority of the execution of Ecclesiasticall censures have those Deanes either long since by some papall priviledges obtained or else by long use prescribed against the Bishops Whereby againe it is cleerely convinced that Episcopall excommunication used in the Church of England is not of divine Institution but only by by humane tradition For were it of divine right then could the same no more bee prescribed or by papall immunity bee possessed than could these Deanes prescribe power or be enfranchised to preach the word or to administer the Sacraments These things have we thus at large and more fully intreaâ—ed of to the end that the Kings Highnesse and His Parliament and all sorts of people might well understand how it is not altogether an unusuall and unaccustomed thing in the Church of England that private and inferiour ministers as they call them in their owne right and in their owne parochiall Parishes without any authority from the Bishop should exercise even the highest censure of the Church And that in sundry places of the Realme there is no preeminence in the matter of the execution of the censures attributed to a Bishop above a Minister Nay which is more than is attributed to a Bishop No more prcheminence given to a B than to a Minister or to a lay man in some places for the use of excommunication above a Lay man yea than to such a lay man who is authorized onely by a lay man to his office Which is evident by Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and censures exercised a long time by Lay men in the peculiar jurisdictions of Newton Gronbie Anstie Soke of Rothely Evington and other parishes and Hamlectes in the Countie Leycester The Officers of all which places for their spirituall authority having not had any other warrant than such only as hath beene signed sometimes under the hand and seale of the right Honourable the Earle of Huntingdon deceased sometimes of the Honourable Sir Henry Grey Knight sometimes of Henry Skipwith Esquire and sometimes of others For the avoyding therefore of sundry intolerable inconveniences which hetherto hath ensued for want of that authority which the Law setled doth enable every Minister with It is most expedient that all humane authority in the execution of spirituall censures bee utterly taken away and that the divine and Evangelicall censures of Christ bee ministred in every Congregation where learned and godly Pastors with discreet Elders may bee had as from the minde of the Lord they were executed in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church I had almost forgotten to speake of one common and usuall kinde of jurisdiction spirituall in the use of the censures of the Church by the Archbishops which in cases of their Prerogative they have prescribed against the Bishops over the Presbyters and people of every Bishops Diocesse and Archdeacons jurisdiction within their provinces of one other common and usuall kinde of pretensed spirituall jurisdiction and use of the censures which the Archbishop and sometimes the Deane and Chapter sede Archiepiscopali or sede Episcopali vacante exercise and lastly of that spirituall kinde of jurisdiction and censures so called of the Church which Suffraganes and Archdeacons have and doe use As touching which supposed spirituall power both of the Archbishops and Archdeacons because the same their power doth not only belong unto them jure consuetudinario non scripto by unwritten and not by written Law I must conclude against the jurisdiction of the Archbishops Prerogative and against the Archdeacons jurisdiction in all cases as out of St. Cprian King Henry the eighâ— concluded against the Pope viz That their authorities can not bee from Christ Because Christ said ego sum via veritas vita He never said ego sum consuetudo Touching the jurisdiction of the Deane and Chapter the papall Law being abrogated how the same may lawfully now bee used otherwise than by sufferance and consent of the King and Realme I know not But of all spirituall authority exercised at this day in the Church of England the same seemeth to draw most neare to the semblance of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And might be approved in many points if so be the Deane â—nd Chapter being as it were a Senate of preaching Elders did no more commit the execution of their Ecclesiasticall juridiction to the wisdome of one Vicar generall or principall officiall than they doe put over the leassing of their Lands or dividents of their rents to the only discretion of one of their Bayliffes or Stewardes As for Bishops Suffraganes in England and in Wales how many there may be and what Cities and Townes are to be taken and accepted for their Seas it is at large expressed in a statute made for the nomination of Suffraganes By which statute also wee are given to understand that it remaineth onely in the disposition and liberty of every Archbiâ—hop and Bishop within this Realme c. to name and elect two honest and discreete spirituall persons being learned and of good conversation and them to present unto the King by their writing under their Seales making humble request to give to one such of the said two persons as shall please His Majesty such title name stile and dignity of Bishop of such Seas specified in the said act as the Kings Highnesse shall thinke most convenient for the same so it bee within the same Province whereof the Bishop that doth name him is Besides after such title stile and name given by the King it is said that the King shall preseâ—t every such person by his Letters Patents under his great Seale to the Archbishop of the same Province wherein the Towne whereof he hath his title name stile and dignity of Bishop and that the Archbishop shall give him all such consecrations benedictions and ceremonies as to the degree and office of a Bishops Suffragane shall be requinte It is further enacted and provided that every person nominated elected presented and consecrated according to that act shall be taken accepted and reputed in al degrees and places according to the stile title name and dignity that he shall be presented unto and have such capacity power and authority honour preeminence and reputation in as large and ample manner in and concerning the execution of such Commission as by any of the said Archbishops or Bishops within their Diocesse shall bee given unto the said Suffragane as to Suffraganes of this Realme heretofore hath beene used and accustomed And that no Suffragane made and consecrated by vertue of this act shall take or receive any manner of profits of the places and Seas whereof they shall be named nor use have or execute any jurisdiction or Episcopall power or authority within their said Seâ—s c. but onely such profits jurisdiction and authority as shall
be licensed and limited unto them to take doe and execute by any Archbishop or Bishop within their Diocesse to whom they shall be Suffraganes under their seales And that no such Suffragane shall use any jurisdiction ordinary or Episcopall power otherwise nor longer time than shall bee limited by such Commission to him given upon paine c. From which Act touching the use and exercise of Episcopall power and censures by the Suffragane wee may againe safely conclude that the EPISCOPALL power granted by the Bishops to be used by the Suffragane is not of divine right and institution but onely from humane device and ordinance For the Suffragan could not exercise any power called spirituall or Episcopall unlesse by the Bishop hee were nominated by the King elected and presented by the Archbishop consecrated and by commission under the Bishops seale authorized in what manner and for what time he should exercise the same Custom then being not from heaven but from the earth and again the Bishops Commission limiting the Suffraganes delegated power being of man and not of God it followeth necessarily that that Episcopall power which the Bishops use and exercise in England can not be divine but humane Because Episcopall authority which is divine being conveyed from the Royall and Soveraigne authority of our Saviour Christ the giver of all power unto every officer within his Ceurch cannot bee transferred to any other person by the same Bishop by the King by the body of the state or by custome For the Kings Person and body of the state nor being made capable by the holy Scriptures to use and exercise that Episcopall power which is of divine Institution can never transferre the same to others whereof they bee themselves uncapable And to defend that custome or any municipall Law should transfer divine Episcopall power from a divine B. to any human officer is more erroneous And from hence if the now L. Bish of London judge his Episcopall power to belong unto him by divine and that by the same right he have power as well to ordaine depose suspend and excommunicate Presbyters as to confirme boyes girles young men and maidens there seemeth to bee good reason that the same B. should make it apparently knowne unto the King and Realme by what power or commission descended from heaven hee may delegate under his Seale the same his divine authority of ordination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation unto Doctor Sterne his now Suffragane of Colchester For if from the holy Scriptures hee can produce no warrant for the making of a delegation of any part of that Episcopall power which hee holdeth to bee committed unto him from our Saviour Christ then well may we conclude against the oâ—dination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation made by the same his Suffragame that the same his Suffraganes ordination deposition c. is not divine For how can an ordination a deposition c. made by a Suffragane be divine when as the Commission granted by the Bishop is meerely humane Wherefore seeing the Bishop himselfe hath plucked certaine of his principall feathers from his own spirituall wings if so be his own wings may be spirituall and imped them with an untwysted thread of humane policy to the humane trayne of his Suffragane and seeing also his Archbishops grace of Canterbury in cases of his metropoliticall prerogative the Archdeacons London Midlesex Essex Hertford the Deane of Pauls and certaine Prebendaries in Pauls the Deane of Westminster the Master of the Savoy and diverse other Persons have by Papall priviledges or by ancient custome prescribed almost all other parts of his Episcopall power there seemeth good reason that the Bishop should againe declare whether the Churches within the said Diocesse after the decease or translation of his Lordship shall stand in need of any Lordly Successor to sit in the same Sea for any other profitable use or purpose than only for wearing of a white rochet walking with a pastorall staffe keeping seven yeares Sabboth from preaching in his Parish Church at Fulham consecrating of Chappels hallowing of Fontes Christening as they call it of Belles whiting of Walles painting of Tombes garnishing of Sepulchers preserving of superstitious Monuments in glasse Windowes repairing and gilding rotten and outworne Crosses confirming Leases of Benefices with cure of soules upon small rents improprying Churches or such like For if the great things of the Episcopall power may bee transferred either by expresse or by secret consent either by commission or custome and that as well to an inferiour as to a superior as well to a Suffragrane a Deane an Archdeacon and a Prebendary as to an Archb. then it seemeth reasonable that the smaller things before spoken of may well be performed without any Lordly authority When I had thus finished according to our line that which I first undertooke against the Admonitors pre ensed dangerous alterations innovations and inconveniences and was also purposed to have added that which in mine opinion seemeth to prove that which the Admonitor by his opinion denyeth viz. that the externall government of the Church should alwayes and in all places be one when I say I had thus purposed by reason of some other present and for the time more necessary occasion I was driven to alter my minde and to shew the same in a place somewhat more convenient And yet in the meane while it shall not be amisse but a thing very necessary in this place so to cleare the state of the question betweene the Admonitor and me as the same being rightly before hand understood there might no prejudicate opinion be conceived against the truth The Admonitor against the not having one forme of externall policy in all ages and states of the Chutch of Christ alleadgeth that in Denmarke they have Bishops both in name and in office that in Saxony thâ—y have Arcbishops and Bishops iâ— office but not in name that in Tigure they have no Senate of Elders nor the discipline by excommunication which they more mislike that in Geneva in Scotland and in other places they have a government not much unlike that platforme which is desired to be among us that in Saxony and Basil they kneele at the Lords Supper all Tigure they sit and it is brought unto them and that in other places they goe and receive it for the more expedition as they passe And that he doubteth not but that the learned men whom God sent to instruct those Churches in which the Gospell in those dayes was first received have bin directed by the spirit of God to retaine this liberty that in externall government and other outward orders they might choose such as they thought in wisdome and godlinesse to be most convenient for the state of their Countrey and disposition of the people Vnto all which wee answer briefly viz. that Bishops both in name and in office being of divine institution ought as well to be in the Church of England as of Denmarke