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A25539 An Answer to a paper intitled, Reflections on the Prince of Orange's declaration 1688 (1688) Wing A3331; ESTC R16002 8,195 10

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which two of the Judges Jones and Holloway lost their places on the Bench. 12 13. His twelfth and thirteenth concern Ireland and Scotland and therefore I will leave them untouch'd to the Gentlemen of those Nations who best understand and are most sensible of the Oppressions they are under 14. In his fourteenth he pleads the Validity of the Kings Declaration for Liberty of Conscience tho' that pretended Prerogative has been discuss'd and baffled in Parliament within these few years and deserted as such by His late Majesty he affirms that the King as Head of the Church might oblige the Bishops to cause the Declaration to be read in the Churches which if they had complyed with in the Opinion of many good Protestants they had precluded themselves of their Votes in parliament against it for with what forehead could they Vote against the Declaration when they had caused it to be read in their Churches An Act amounting to no less than maintaining or owning the Dispencing Power 15. In his fifteenth he allows the Prince and Princess of Orange have in terms full of respect signified to the King their deep regret which all these things have given them and their thoughts about Repealing the Test and Penal Laws as an expedient of Peace but blames him it seems for doing all this so respectfully and privately and would rather had it done by a Manifesto that some of the Princes Friends might be Imprisoned for delivering it as Captain Lenham is for bringing over the Declaration He tells us next the King has come up almost to Fagel's Letter which was the Declaration of their Minds viz. The Church of England Test and Laws of Supremacy to remain then urging the Kings Concessions which may be observ'd to bear date only from the report of the Princes preparations for England 16. He tells us in his sixteenth that the Prince thinks a free Parliament to be the last and great Remedy for these Evils but complaints these Wicked Counsellours are against it for fear of being called to account that they had preingaged Voices to take off the Penal Laws and the Test and regulated Corporations and Burroughs that so they might assure themselves of the Members of Parliament he allows the charge but says what has all this to do with the King No man say it has and the Prince only requires the removal and punishment of those Evil Counsellours in a Free Parliament 17. Next our Reflector tells that there never was a Parliament absolutely Free but that Drink Money and other evil Arts have had a great sway in Elections This is true but no reason that we should consent to a General or Fundamental Corruption of our Elections because we cannot avoid some few and casual ones Then he would have had the Prince have desired the King to have laid aside those Evil Counsellours as if it were not Notorious that the Princes dislike of some men has been their ready way to preferment in our Court and Embassadors for Holland have been of late chosen out of those he has most aversion for as if these Wicked Counsellours feared nothing so much as a good understanding between His Majesty and the Prince of Orange 19. In the Nineteenth he tells the Prince and Princess of Orange's question concerning the Birth of the Prince of Wales saying That during the Queens pretended Bigness and in the manner in which the Birth was managed there have appear'd so many just and visible ground of suspicion that not only the Prince himself but all good Subjects in England do vehemently suspect that the Pretended Prince of Wales was not born of the Queen 20. Next our Reflector tells us That the Prince ought to have writ to the King for a private satisfaction in his Matter which the King would no doubt have given in the manner that all reasonable men do when they are examined against themselves All men allow the imputation of such an imposture to be a gret reflection on their present Majesties But some think they have in a great measure drawn it upon themselves by omitting to have those witnesses by and those Methods observed that our Laws require to prove the Birth of a Legitimate Prince of Wales 'T is not perhaps enough to say that there were as many Witnesses and as good proof of it as the Law exacts still the question returns why not the same persons a Legal proof admits of no Equivolent Our reflector will not deny but there has been common same all over Europe that this Prince of Wales was not Born of the Body of her Majesty and common belief of it amongst protestants this of it self were enough to make the next Heir to the Crown look about and move every stone that the matter might be examined by impartial methods in a free parliament which is all that the Prince and Princess of Orange aims at for their proofs to the contrary 't is not to be expected they should acquaint the World with them before the Tryal 22. In his two and twentieth Reflection on the eighteenth Paragraph where the Prince says He was invited to this Expedition by many Lords both Spiritual and Temporal and many Gentlemen and Subjects of all Ranks Our Reflector is pleased to tell him he is mistaken as Monmouth was Notwithstanding those eminent Peers Gentry and Commonalty of all sorts that are already in his Camp and such as are going daily as well Souldiers as others nor considering the great number of the Nobility that are in the Country and have not been examin'd and that such as were examin'd here in Town did no more than answer Not Guilty to the Charge of High Treason So that there are more Nobility and Gentry with him than with his Majesty In his three and twentieth Reflection on the 19th and 20th Paragraph where the Prince refers all to a free Parliament our Reflector says it belongs not to him to refer other mens business as if the Prince had no relation to the Crown Then tells us we are already in possession of what the Prince promises us as if the Catholicks were all out of imployment the Dispencing power given up no standing Army no apprehensions of Popery and Arbitrary Power and a Free Parliament for redressing of Grievances of all kinds in being 24. In the twenty fourth Reflection on the three last Paragraphs of the Princes Declaration he tells us The Prince has a manifest design upon the Crown because he summons the Nobility Gentry and People of England to his Standard And if so who must stay with the King To that may be answered All such as believe the Prince of Orange has brought this Army and intends to make War upon England to subdue it to his meer will and pleasure trample all Laws both Divine and Humane under his Feet dethrone his present Majesty and make himself King they will stay and fight for him or at least to the best of their power in some other manner assist and help him On the contrary part such as believe the Prince means nothing of all this but brought over his Army only the better to assist the Nobility Gentry and people of England upon their earnest desires and frequent solliciations and reiterated complaints in the recovering of the old Legal way of choosing Members for Parliament which by Illegal new Charters on pretended forfeitures was in a ready way to be for ever lost in rescuing all the Laws of England from the devouring laws of a Dispencing Power in reducing Popery within those bounds the Law has prescribed it which like an Inundation had so over-flowed its Banks that our Religion and Government were in peril to be swallowed up by it and finally to redress these and all other grievances if for these and no other ends or concerns men think the Prince have landed here such men will take his part espouse his quarrel and contribute to his success and in these cases every man will judge for himself as they did in our late Civil Wars Again he charges the Prince with a design of Conquest which not only the Prince himself disclaims throughout his Declaration and will hereafter disown in all his Manifesto's but the States of Holland who have so vigorously assisted and engaged themselves with all their power and credit to maintain him in this attempt have assur'd us he left Holland under high and solemn protestations to the contrary All this is I hope sufficient to dash the strain'd inferences of an inconsiderable Reflector As for that impudent Calumny of Perjury he indeavours to six upon the Prince it needs no other refutation than a serious consideration of the Charge it self his Words are The Prince of Orange swore to the States of Holland never to be their State-holder tho' it were offered him and yet is now that very State-holder he swore never to be on any terms Now let any reasonable man consider whether it be possible a Wise State should by an Oath given him disable the Prince of Orange from being their State-holder tho' Circumstances and times should so change that their immediate preservation and very existence of their State should require him to accept and execute that Office. For his personal Reflections towards the latter end I think very Impertinent and only fit to be buried in Contempt Thus having followed my tedious Reflector through his twenty four Reflections I take my leave of him reserving the Princes farther Vindication to some time when I shall be more at leisure to write and people willinger to read than they can be under the present surprize hourly expectation and continual anxiety for the event of this Heroick Enterprise FINIS
An Answer to a Paper Intitled Reflections on the Prince of Orange's Declaration IT seems a strange piece of Arrogance that any man should reflect on a Declaration because it does not begin as he would have it that is with a Manifestation of our Clandestine League with France whereby and Army of Frenchmen together with our Papists Irish and other Mercenaries might establish Popery in England The Reflector ought to have considered that a Clandestine League tho' it may be very notorious to its Existence and Effects may likewise be very difficult to prove according to the meaning of the Word Clandestine But that there is such a one we have the Testimony of the King of France in a Memorial delivered to the States of Holland and though it has been since disowned by our Court and Mr. Skelton upon it committed to the Tower his short Confinement and sudden Advancement to a Regiment shews that his Disgrace was but a trick of State It is also an inconsequential way of Arguing that because the Prince does not begin his Declaration with it therefore there is no such League things of that high consequence being easier and better carried on by secret Messages than Writing under Hand and Seal 2. In his second Reflection he tells us the Prince had needed less Apology if he had pretended only to have come to deliver the King from Evil Counsellours and to ingage him further in the interest of Europe forgetting the Prince does declare to us he comes for that end tho' not singly and brought over his Army to secure him from the Rage and Fury of those Evil Counsellours His next Quarrel is that the Prince uses the Stile Of We and Us within His Majesties Dominions a thing I believe ordinary enough in Great Princes when they speak or write to their Inferiours The Prince of Orange is General of a great numerous Army Admiral of a vast Fleet State-holder to a High and Mighty Commonwealth and consequently too great to speak in the Stile of a Private Person so that Rewarding Punishing Commanding Advancing may very naturally fall within his Power Nor is it any Crime to indeavour the calling of a Free Parliament and settling the Nation tho' by ways and methods unusual in our days nothing being more frequent in our Histories than for our Barons with Arms in their Hands to compel their Kings to call and hearken to their Parliaments But now there being a standing Army of forty thousand Mercenaries in the Land it was grown a Crime to Petition for a Parliament and a Folly to expect a free one new Charters and Corporations and a general nomination of incompetent Magistrates having taken the Election of Members for Parliament out of those Hands the Laws of the Land and Memorial Custom had intrusted with them According to the new Scheme designed by those Upstart and Popish Counsellours no man was to Elect or be Elected for Parliament that would not ingage as far as in him lay to take away the Penal Laws and Test nay those Wicked Counsellours prevailed yet farther upon His Majesty and he that pardoned so many of his Enemies was not suffered to forgive his best Friends and most Loyal Subjects a refusal or excuse in that particular That the Prince will send back his Army seems to some a strong presumption that he will not stay behind since even our own lawful King thinks himself not safe without an Army of Mercenaries in his own Kingdom From a strain'd phrase or two Of We and Us Require and Command sometimes used in his Declaration to infer That the Prince of Orange intends to make himself King of England seems to all Rational Men a very Captions and Unsatisfactory way of arguing and a very Unjust Calumny cast upon so great a Prince since more than once in express terms he Declares he has no design upon His Majesties Crown or Person so that all that Reproach falls to the Ground 3. In his third Reflection he tells us the Prince wants a clear Call and that a Son against a Father a Nephew against an Unkle a Neighbour against a Neighbour cannot be such That he is Son-in-Law and Nephew to His Present Majesty gives the Prince a fair and just pretence to interpose in our Affairs had he been a Foreigner as our Reflector terms him it might have look'd like an intended Conquest had he not been a Neighbour it had been impossible for him to have afforded us this seasonable Assistance But some think that where attempts are made to introduce the Catholick Religion by a Conspiracy against the Laws that secure and establish the Protenstant Religion and the Test that only can keep the Papists out of the Government And to carry on this Conspiracy the better the old Charters are taken away under pretence of forfeiture and surrender new ones granted such as might bring Elections within the power of those Evil Counsellours Papists upon the Bench a Jesuite in the Council and whole Troops of them in the Army 'T was high time for a Protestant Prince that had so near relation to the Crown of England to look about him and choose rather to be Censur'd by our Reflector and such as he for entering upon the Stage a little before his time than be justly Reproach'd and Curs'd to the end of the World by all such as love the Protestant Religion and Ancient Government of England for appearing too late in their Defence The Example of Henry the Fourth of France may teach us how hard it is for a Protestant Prince to obtain his Right where the Catholick Religion is Predominant nor was the new Armour of Popery he put on at last sufficient to defend the old Protestant against the Stab of a Jesuited novitiate 4. His fourth Reflection acquaints us the Protestant Religion is at once expos'd and hazarded for if the King prevail what can the Prince of Oranges sort of Protestants expect at his hands which are indeed all sorts of Frotestants that I know of for the Presbyterians Independants Phanaticks Church of England men are in his Army 'T is fair warning and I hope God will give the Protestants Grace to make the right use of it As for their changing Masters 't is a Chimera of his own and utterly Foreign to the Declaration he pretends to reflect upon Lest we should forget he reminds us with that admirable Demonstration of Isay that the whole Protestant Religion is at stake for which I heartily thank our Worthy Reflector for tho' it be very true we had not seen it in Print but for him 5. In his fifth reflection he tells us that some Laws are better broken than kept which will not be easily granted t is indeed true that some Laws were better be repealed than continued But then they must be Nulld bu the same power they were constituted and not by any part of it in contradiction to the whole His instance is that Christianity could not have been introduc'd
had the Pagan Laws been Executed by which Parallel he would warrant Popery to be the true Christianity and the Protestant the Healthen Persecutors Laws for Idolatry cannot bind therefore Laws against it cannot a very strange inference and I allow that a Lawful Authority by exceeding their just Bounds may act unlawfully but the Legislative power cannot since all over the World the Supream power ever was absolute be it in one or more He says no Man is obliged to maintain a Religion that is not true be it never so Legally Established So that is but saying the Protestant Religion is not true and His Majesty notwithstanding His repeated ingagement is no longer bound to protect it For in the words of our Reflector 't is an absurdity and impiety to do so 6. The sixth thing considerable in our Reflector is his defence of the Dispensing Power and the use His Majesty seduc'd by his Evil Councelors makes of it which is no other than the setting aside of all our Laws made for the security of the Protestant Religion But sure such a Prerogative can never be Legally vested in the Crown which if admitted were the destruction of all Law. Had those Evil Counsellors only prevailed with His Majesty to have Dispensed with the Penalties inflicted on Catholicks and other Dissenters for serving God according to their Particular Consciences tho' perhaps contrary to Law the matter had never been Complained of But to put them into places of Highest trust to make one Lieutenant of Ireland another President of the Council a third Lieutenant General of the Tower a fourth a Judge imploying numbers of them in the Army Court c. is a transgression of the Law which is certainly very dangerous if not immediately yet in its inevitable Consequences to the Protestant Religion and Government and therefore a mischief remote only as an Egg is from a Chicken from the worthy reflectors Malum in se which he acknowledges this Dispensing Power extends not to And the particular Catholicks breaking the Law in these points are without excuse For no Man is obliged in Conscience to be a Judge a Priest a Minister a Privy Councellor a Courtier or a Souldier in time of Peace contrary to the Laws of the Land. Nor do those Laws deprive the King of the service of any of his Subjects absolutely since all men if they please may Capacitate themselves for imployment If the High Commission Court be at an End Magdalem Colledge and the Bishop of London restored we may in all appearance thank the honesty and Caution of some of its worthy Members and the Noise of what our Reflector calls the Prince of Orange's Invasion though some will say a discent upon England made by a Prince of the Blood Married to the Eldest Daughter of the present King upon the invitation of many Lords both Spiritual and Temporal and of the considerable Gentry Commonalty of all Counties might here deserved a fairer Name Nor ought any man to complain if his honest Neighbour break violently into his house at a time when his Family cry out Fire or Murther the Common obligation of humanity and a due care of their own preservation exact no less of them But this Paper is not intended for a vindication of the Prince I will therefore return to my Reflector again who undertakes for all good Protestants that they only refus'd to repeal the Test by reason of the security it affords their Religion As if they had cast off all care of their Civil concerns and were only intent upon Religious affairs so as to consent to give his Majesty a Majority of Papists in the House of Lords by which he might have two Negative Voices upon all Laws to be offer'd and an House of Pears ready to repeal the Habeas Corpus Bill and such Statutes as any ways seem to incumber what Papists think his Majesties Prerogative of which they maintain the Dispensing Power to be an Essential part and well they may since it is the very power by which he maintains them in their places and imployments So that by leave of my worthy Reflector the consideration of Religion tho' they are the principal are not the only reasons that have determined all good Protestants to a Non-concurrence with His Majesty in the repeal of the Test 8. In his eighth Reflection he tells us that Chappels are places of Devotion so are the Turks Mosques and the Jews Synagogues yet no good Christian but would be offended to see them multiply'd and encouraged either in his own or his Neighbours Country 9. In his ninth he tells us the King was content the Test should remain I answer these Evil Counsellours were not content the Test should remain but sent their Regulators and other Agents to threaten promise remove and change the Magistrates in all Corporations in order to the procuring Members of Parliament such as were to enter the House under solemn promises and firm resolutions to take off the Penal Laws and Test notwithstanding all the weighty nay convincing Arguments they might meet with there to the contrary A desperate sort of Senators and fitter for Catalines Conspiracies than an English Parliament Nor did these Evil Counsellours cease to sollicit even Knights of the Shire till the general indignation their proposals met with together with the noise of the Prince of Orange's preparations frighted them from a further prosecution of their enormous attempt He ingeniously confesses the seizing of Charters to have been a fault so there is no contest between us on that point but he adds That the Prince of Orange has nothing to do with it now others think him highly concern'd in it for if according to Sir Thomas Moore Rex Potest Juriper Parta mentum potest destrui or according to the Opinion of later times a Parliament may make a Bill of Exclusion a Prince that has so near a Relation to the Crown of England ought not to suffer any foul play in the calling together such an Assembly as may null his Title or preclude him of his Right to the Crown in time to come 'T is true the Council of seizing Charters was given in the last Kings Reign and most of them then seized but no man can deny but some have been condemned and seized in the Reign of his present Majesty and restored not till the universal apprehension of the aforesaid Invasion so that we are promised a Free Parliament only because they cannot put one of their own framing upon us 10. His tenth Paragraph needs no answer 11. In his eleventh he tells us there were but two Papist Judges as if the Laws were not broken unless Judges were all Papists or that Judges sitting contrary to Law could give a Legal Sentence Both these defects he supposes supplyed by the Dispencing Power a power sufficiently baffled by those Gentlemen of the lorg Robe of Councel for the Bishops and not defended by either Judges or Councel on the other side for