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A04218 Reasons taken out of Gods Word and the best humane testimonies prouing a necessitie of reforming our churches in England Framed and applied to 4. assertions wherein the foresaid purpose is contained. The 4. assertions are set downe in the page next following. Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624. 1604 (1604) STC 14338; ESTC S120955 58,997 92

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their assignation from Christ if they be not surcease that presumption * Pag. 339. If the name of Diocesan Bishop were new and lately invented by men the losse thereof were not great yea retayning the name they must be knowen to be of men and not of God Heerevnto accordeth D. Sutcliffe in his booke intituled O. E. against N. D. where he refuting the calling of the Iesuites saith thus “ D. Su●●liffe or O. K. against N. D. pag. 110. It is not enough to say that they have a rule and learning and live orderly but they must have their Office and calling allowed by Christ Iesus if they meane to take vpon them the office of Pastors Teachers and Governors in Christes Church Wherefore either let them shew themselves to have a lawfull calling or let them not thinke much to be thrust out as intruders We doe not find either in the Epistle to the Ephesians chap 4. or the first Epistle to the Corinthians chapt 12. any such extravagant Friars Thus do both these learned men and our no great friends maintaine with vs singularly The Scriptures perfection even in these outward Ecclesiastical matters Yea further considering the Scriptures phrase maner of speach perpetually signifying that there is not only One Visible Church of Christ properly but Many in number in the world nor only one in a Nation or Province but many as before * Pag. 19. 20. we have declared therefore one of these viz. the B. of Wint. is to be well observed how he avoucheth the holy Scriptures perfection also even for the phrase and maner of speach and how vnlawfull a thing he holdeth it to be to vse any † 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 new wordes for religious matters other thē the very Scripture vseth Thus generally he affirmeth though he applieth it to another point thē now we speak of Saith he “ The full redemption of man by c. Pag. 41. What I reade in the word of God that I beleeve what I do not reade that I do not beleeve In Gods causes we may not easily leave Gods wordes and with a new kinde of speach make way for a new kind of faith We must learne from God what to beleeve not by correcting or inverting his words teach him how to speake This religious strictnes even touching the words of Scripture is indeed I graunt to be held religiously and perpetually vnderstanding the words to be such as either the Scripture it selfe vseth or may be necessarie consequence be proved and allowed from the very Scripture But now how vniustly are we vsed by them yea how vnchristianly when toward vs they will stand to nothing of all this and yet forsooth all must go still on their side The very Papistes do see and acknowledge this that I say viz. both that these grounds of the Scriptures absolut perfection in all Ecclesiasticall matters whereon we exactly do stand are the true and right principles of the Protestants Religion also that the Diocesan L. Bishops The only true Protestants do and must needes turne away from these principles deny them when they deale with vs and must ioyn plainlie with the Catholikes in their answers if they will maintaine themselves Thus say they when one obiected that * Ne●ves from Spaine Holland The Puritans as they falsely and maliciouslie call vs would certainly be extinguished if the Queene should live any nomber of yeares Tush saith an other you are deceaved Nay much more possible and likely it is that the Puritan shall overcom the Protestant then the contrarie For that the Puritan buildeth directly vpon the Protestants first grounds in Religion and deduceth thereof cleerely and by ordinary consequence all his conclusions Which the Protestant can not deny by Divinity but only by Policie and humane ordination or by turning “ The Catholikes Supplication An. 1604 hath the like pag. 17. to Catholike answers contrary to their owne principles And it is hard for any man sincerely to be a Protestant but that he will easily passe also on more or lesse to be a Puritan And only they in effect will be against them who are interessed in the other side as Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons Canons Notaries Registers Civill Lawyers and the like for not leesing their Commodities c. This do the very Papistes discerne and confesse Wherewithall they prophesie also as it were if the Protestants Religion be not rooted out that the Puritanes profession will finally prevaile both against the common Protestants and the Catholiks also Which som with vs much fearing and vngraciously striving against when they could not endure * Scottizing Genevating for Discipline pa. 31. our hope of one Darius comming to build vp the Temple of God among vs they made it no lesse then a Treasonable mind in vs when we could not conceale in deed such a hope that we had long agoe of this Princes after-comming Wherefore also they maintayned Seminarie Priestes very Traitors in deed publikly to taxe this our most Christian Noble Darius whom God hath of his singular mercy now sent vnto vs as a Puritan King saying “ Quodli pag. 26 27. The Puritans have Princes none at all vnlesse it be one on their side Their malice was thus mooved because they were not ignorāt of the Kings most holy religious Confession of his faith made long since and published to the view of the world as no other Kinge in Christendom hath don and altogeather agreeable to our Profession Where * Confess of faith At Edingburg Ann. 1580. he detesteth all Rites Signes and Traditions brought into the Church without or against the word of God Promising and swearing by the great Name of our Lord to continue in the obedience of the doctrine and discipline of the Church that is in Scotland and shall defend the same according to his vocation and power all the dayes of his life Which also of late againe he hath in effect renued and confirmed and that even then when there was doubt how his future subiects in England would entertaine his comming Thus lately writeth our worthy gracious King admonishing his Sonne the noble Prince “ Basilicon dôro● pag. 43. The doctrine and discipline preserve in puritie according to Gods word † Pag 7. The whole Scripture is dited by Gods Spirit thereby as by his lively word to instruct and rule the whole Church Militant to the end of the world * Pag. 6. The first part of mans service to his God which is Religion that is the worship of God according to his revealed will it is wholy grounded vpon the Scripture “ Pag. 5. Frame all your affections to follow precisely the rule there set downe * Pag. 15 1● By Superstition I meane when one restraines himselfe to any other rule in the service of God then is warranted by the word the only true square of Gods service The forme established
REASONS TAKEN OVT OF GODS WORD AND THE BEST HVMANE TESTIMONIES PROVING A NECESSITIE OF REFORMING OVR CHVRCHES IN ENGLAND Framed and applied to 4. Assertions wherein the foresaid purpose is contained The 4. Assertions are set downe in the Page next following I beleeved therefore I haue spoken Psal 116.10 One thing is necessarie Luc. 10.42 1604. The 4. Assertions Pag. 1. 1. It is necessarie to reforme the Churches of England their Ministerie and Ceremonies Pag. 57. 2. For the space of 200. yeares after Christ the Visible Churches vsing governement were not Diocesan Churches but particular ordinary Congregations only and the Bishops as they were peculiarly called after the Apostles were only Parishionall not Diocesan Bishops differing from other Pastors only in Prioritie of order not in Maioritie of rule Pag. 67. 3. The Scriptures of the New Testaments do cōtaine set forth vnto vs besides the government by Extraordinary Offices Apostles Prophetes Evangelistes an ordinary forme of Church-governement vsed then Pag. 70. 4. The ordinary forme of Church-governement set forth vnto vs in the New Testament ought necessarily to be kept still by vs it is not changeable by men and therefore it only is lawfull To the high and mightie Prince IAMES by the grace of God King of England Scotland France and Ireland Defender of the faith c. Grace and peace be multiplied in Christ our Saviour RIght high mightie and gracious Soveraigne in most humble wise your Maiesties loyall devoted Subiects who for the safetie of our soules desire the Reformatiō of our Churches according to Gods word do cast downe our selves in the true affection of our heartes before your Royall presence whom we acknowledge to be the noblest pillar of the Gospell and the greatest hope for the propagation and establishing thereof that is in all Christendom Beseeching your Highnes to extend your Kingly ayde and furtherance vnto vs in our foresaid most necessarie and iust desire with protection also toward our innocencies against the Oppression of our Adversaries in this cause Their Oppressions of vs are and have ben many very grievous and of long continuance For the which we have knowen that your Maiestie formerly hath ben touched with a godly tender commiseration towards vs. As it is with all humble thankfulnes acknowledged to your immortall honor by * a Reverend Father M. Cartwe Epist to the King before his Homil on Eccles one that heeretofore tasted therof and now lately sleepeth in the Lord. The truth of God maintayned then is the very same which we now dutifully seeke for Our consciences are rather more certified of the goodnes and necessitie of these Ordinances of God by how much more tyme we have spent since in examining and trying the Reasons alleaged to and fro about the same The great increasing also of Papistes and Libertines among vs since this time assureth vs that the present Ecclesiasticall Orders are more friendly to them then to the synceritie of the Gospell Besides the most lamentable dissentions and diversitie of opinions in matters of Religion breaking foorth every where among the people contrary to lovely Vnitie which the Diocesan Bishops do vainly pretend to be a proper fruit of their Office and contrary to that which other Churches refusing them and their Traditions do sweetly inioy this animateth vs with all dutifull indeavour to seeke this Reformation aforesaid so divinely cōmended vnto vs. Lastly we have had it from your Maiestie very oft that whatsoever things in our Churches we can shew to be Contrary to Gods word shal be by your gracious meanes removed and whatsoever yet out of vse with vs may appeare by Gods word to be Necessary shall be established May it please your most gracious Majestie let this word stand We crave we desire nothing more And lesse then this how can we desire I hope it is shewed and declared competently in the Treatise following that the matters in question wherewith our consciences are troubled are in very truth Contrary to Gods Word And heere we most humbly beseech your Majestie on our bended knees to think of vs no otherwise The Lord is witnes to our soules we by not that of meere conscience to God we seeke the right and refuse the wrong namely these Humane Traditions Ecclesiasticall and not as our Adversaries suggest of any contentious or peevish mind There is no other reason in the world moving vs in this matter but because we see it with our eyes that all such things are directly Contrary to Gods word and that Christes owne Ordinances which yet we want are necessary to be enjoyed for our soules health They are vaine words of men vnadvised yea of corrupt mindes and studying to flatter which cease not to inculcat and specially in greatest presence that these thinges are Indifferent and arbitrary I pray God it com not to passe by such reasoning that many will hold all things indifferent likewise indifferent of what Religion they be indifferent whether of any or of no Religion Which conceits I feare already are entered in to the hearts of many yea of thousands in England But we beleeve and the truth is Gods word never knew any indifferency in matters of the Church or of Religion wherein all things whether great or small have ever ben either simply good or evill necessarie or vnlawfull Our Adversaries do sharply rise vp against vs and labour to charge vs with most odious reproches and accusations chiefly laid out to your Majestie and others neere you Where as they know well that we com nothing short of themselves touching any duty to your Highnes Crowne and Dignitie And in affection to your person we haue ben before them all yea then when it hath gon the harder with vs for it Only in a point of Religion we differ from them that we beleeve Gods written Word ought to be our sole warrant for all things Ecclesiasticall and even so namely for those with vs now in controversie if at all they be lawfull Which point they vtterly deny And for this cause they cry out importunatly that we are Schismatikes There is no end of their speeches and writings loading vs with this extreame injurie Wherevnto though we haue to long vsed more then patient silence yet allwayes we can not do so Ierom. ad Pammach We are taught by a worthy saying of an ancient Divine Jn crimine Haereseos neminem oportet esse patientem When any is accused of Haeresie or Schisme as we are he ought by no meanes to put it vp in silence but to make his lawfull defense Wherefore I thought it needfull being though the meanest of my brethren yet by Gods grace one of his servants in the Ministery of the Gospell and being not only in generall but also “ Answer to the hūble Petition of Ministers desiring Res c. in particular thus traduced by them needfull therefore I thought it to be to giue out som Reasons of our faith and conscience in this