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B21181 The Jesuites policy to suppress monarchy proving out of their own writings that the Protestant religion is a sure foundation and principle of a true Christian / written by a person of honor. Derby, Charles Stanley, Earl of, 1628-1672. 1678 (1678) Wing D1088 39,304 36

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will clear all Objections that may encounter him in his way it will be necessary to take a brief view of them And here first our Author accuseth us with a pretended Submission to Lawful Powers begins then to boast how patiently their party did bear with the proceedings of the present Parliament how they used no tricks and subterfuges to nip their proceedings in the bud this is his expression and I would be glad to know what they could have done more than they did what means he by this nipping in the bud would he have another Gun-Powder Treason to what purpose is all this enumeration of our several Kings Richard the First Edward Longshanks Edward the Third and Henry the Fifth their Opinions of their Popish Subjects in the first place it may be said that were not so clear-sighted as Princes are in these days that the Roman Writers were not altogether so insolent plain and positive against the Sovereignty of Kings as now As for the French Kings they did very roundly maintain their Rights and Sovereignties having been sufficiently tormented by their Popish Subjects in the time of the League that what the Jesuites were inventing to the prejudice of Kings was by cunning and insinuation Writing one thing and making the French Kings believe another as is usual with that kind of people As for the House of Austria they have the greatest dependences upon the Pope imaginable and the Pope hath a very great tie upon that House for by their Incestuous Marriages authorized by the Popes they make it impossible for them to throw off the Authority of the Pope for should they do so all of the Houshold would prove Bastards and now even in these our days the present King of Poland in the life-time of his Brother known by the name of Cardinal Casimir did Marry his said own Brothers Wife and this was the Policy of the Pope with our Henry the Eighth in dispensing with his Marrying his own Brothers Wife that he might have as great Dominion over the Kings of England as of Spain As for the Authors branding this last Century that what was perpetrated now was never done before as to Mary Queen of Scots and Our late Sovereign I very much wonder at the Impudence of the Man to mix these two actions the first was done by Lawful Authority for her being Queen of Scotland did not bereave Queen Elizabeth of her Sovereignty and I have heard it averr'd by Learn'd and knowing Men that the King of Scotland hath sate in an English Parliament in former ages as a Peer of England and then no wonder nor Injustice neither that the Queen of Scotland suffered Death for her Treasons against the Queen As for the latter the Murther of our late Sovereign of Blessed and Glorious Memory the action is without Example such and so hainous a thing was never acted upon the Theatre of the World And as I said before so I will again that the Murther of that good King may properly enough be said to be the abominable product of that accursed Doctrine of the Popes Infallibility and his Sovereignty over Kings for those accursed Regicides and Murtherers of that Glorious King did but a little alter the Argument for that Power which the Romanists lodged in the Pope these wicked Miscreants placed in the People They had heard there was a Power above Kings and instead of giving it to the Pope they gave it to the Peoples Representative and so fell that Great King to the Consternation of the whole World and for a Memento to all Kings to awake them out of their Lethargy and be an Exhortation to them to Vindicate their Supreme Authority We do all of us much commend the Fidelity of Carlos Whitegrave and the Penderels and Huddlestone and this Author is much mistaken if he think we wish any of them ill We have said enough already to evidence that they effected that glorious and happy action happy I say to these Nations through some other instigations than the Principles of the Romish Religion they were led thereto certainly by a hand Divine as well as assigned by it they carried English hearts about them at that time but if they will Apostatize 't is none of my fault for my part I am well content they be dispensed with as a Mark put upon them for their miraculous preserving our Good King As for the stigmatized person I must needs say for him that he labored in the Vineyard before the last hour of the day and was very ready both with Hand and Pen to promote the Interests of the King for his Restauration and therefore that word of reproach might well have been left out That we differ in Religion is but too true and we dare as boldly as your selves appeal to the day of Judgement something you say we differ I say very much else why does Your Church Damn ours But this is not a place either to Dispute about Religion or express wherein we vary We are assured our Religion is the best free from Superstition free from too much homeliness God and the King are best served in our way Our Church is Monarchical as well as yours but still with a Subordination to Our Sovereign Temporal Prince what our great Ancestors were we shall not be ashamed to remember nor the Conversion of England from Paganism which possibly as all the World besides Converted from the like Errors did retain some few Pagan Ceremonies from which the Church of England was purified in the Reformation of Edward the Sixth and Queen Elizabeth He does well to put us in mind of Romish Persecutions Are not we justified thereby if we do the same to you France forsooth is instanced where the Reformed Religion is permitted which I shall leave indifferent whether to attribute that toleration to their vast numbers or to the innocency of their Tenets not at all prejudicial to Kings This I am sure they own no Sovereign above their natural King they have no Forreign Jurisdictions in their Spirituals and as little in their Temporals Let this be remembered they assisted their King Henry the Third against his Popish Rebels even after the Massacre at Paris and Henry the Fourth in his Siege of Paris when the Duke of Parma reliev'd it But as for the French King he is no competent instance in this case had you singled out some Trent-Catholick such our English Catholicks would be acknowledged there had been a fairer colour for your Argument When you have found some Roman Catholick of the Trent-Perswasion allowing the same favours to known Protestants you may more plausibly plead for the like allowance till when by their Inquisitions and such like entertainments of Protestants they have prescribed the Law for other Princes towards those that no less differ from them in matters of Religion We will wave the Massacre at Paris to come nearer home What think you of the Massacre in Ireland As a fore-runner of the Enlish Troubles Was
Temporal Affairs by a supereminent and incoercible Authority none may depose him from or deprive him of his Temporals either directly or indirectly much less the Church or Pope whose Power is meerly Spiritual and therefore the behaviours of your Popes have been Rebellious and Scandalous against Reason and Religion against the Doctrine of the Scriptures and the Practice of the Ancient Christians especially since Gregory the 7th who seems to have been the first assertor and practicant in this intolerable presumption not only excommunicating though that be more than St. Augustine will allow him when he tells us nec Rex nec Multitudo Excommunicandi sunt ut-refert Glass in Mat. 23. but also dethroning and deposing the Emperor Henry the 4th whereof he thus complains Ignominiam sustinco ante inauditam I suffer a disgrace never before heard of Vide Albertum Stadiensem ad Annum 1106. Innocent the Third makes Otho although a Rebel to his Prince Emperor and afterwards deposeth him not because a Rebel but because unprofitable to himself Honorius the Third Excommunicates Frederick the Second and deposeth him which Sentence Gregory the Ninth confirms Innocent the 4th also Of the Pride and cruelty of the Popes against this Emperor Frederick the King of France thus complained as Mat. Paris tells the story in Hen. 3. Quo Spiritu vel ausu temerario Papa With what spirit with what daring rashness did the Pope disinherit and depose from his Imperial dignity this worthy Prince than whom a greater is not found among Christians nor yet his equal c. De transgressionibus ejus c. Concerning his Faults objected no credit is to be given to his Enemies among whom the Pope is known to be principal To himself he was always an harmless and good neighbor neither have we ever found him faulty in his fidelity concerning Secular Affairs or the Catholick Faith We know he was a gallant Souldier in the Holy War and boldly exposed himself to all dangers both by Sea and Land I find not so much Religion in the Pope who when he ought to have promoted his Interests and have defended him when he was abroad Fighting Gods Battels did yet in his absence wickedly endeavor to supplant and destroy him Boniface the Eighth threatens to depose Philip King of France absolving his Subjects from their Allegiance and afterwards subjects him and his Kingdom to Albert the Emperor John 23d excommunicates Ludovicus Bavarus Benedict the 12th confirms it and then Clement the 6th deposeth him I shall not trouble you with any more particulars although I might further tell you of the Kingdom of Navar given from the French to the King of Spain by the Pope of Our own Kingdoms of England and Ireland made feodatary to the Popes sometimes transferred to the Spaniard other while to the French of several of our Kings inthralled our Nation involved in bloody Wars by these Papal Usurpations But I shall conclude with a Copy of the Grant made by Pope Alexander the 6th Father to Caesar Borgia of the Indies to Ferdinando King of Spain and his Heirs for ever wherein you may read at large the pride of the Popes in the Power they pretend to Caco I protest you astonish me I pray be pleased to read it over Orthod I am ready so to do Now I begin Alexander Bishop Servant of the Servants of God To Our most Dear beloved Son in Christ King Ferdinando and to Our Dear beloved Daughter in Christ Isabella Queen of Castile Legion Aragon Sicily and Granata Most Noble Princes Greeting and Apostolical Benediction AMong other things acceptable to the Divine Majesty and according to our hearty desire this certainly is the chief That the Catholick Faith and Christian Religion especially in this our time may in all places be exalted amplified and enlarged whereby the health of Souls may be procured and the Barbarous Nations subdued and brought to the Faith And therefore whereas by the favor of Gods Clemency although not with equal deserts We are called to this holy Seat of Peter and understanding you to be true Catholick Princes as we have ever known you and as your Noble and Worthy Facts have declared in a manner to the whole World in that with all your study diligence and industry you have spared no Travails Charges or Perils adventuring even the shedding of your own Blood with applying your whole Minds and Endeavors hereunto as your Noble Expeditions atchieved in recovering the Kingdom of Granata from the Tyranny of the Saracens in these our days do plainly declare your Facts with so great Glory of the Divine Name for the whch as we think you worthy so ought we of our own free will favorably to grant you all things whereby you may daily with more fervent Minds to the Honor of God and the enlarging the Christian Empire prosecute your devout and laudable purposes most acceptable to the Immortal God We are credibly informed that whereas of late you were determined to seek and find certain Islands and firm Lands far remote and unknown and not heretofore found by any other to the intent to bring the Inhabitants of the same to Honor our Redeemer and to profess the Catholick Faith You have hitherto been much occupied in the Expugnation and Recovery of the Kingdom of Granata by reason whereof you could not bring your said Laudable purpose to the end desired Nevertheless as it hath pleased the Almighty God the foresaid Kingdom being recovered willing to accomplish your said desire you have not without great Labor Perils and Charges appointed our well beloved Son Christopher Columbus a Man certes well commended as most worthy and apt for such a matter well furnished with Men and Ships and other necessaries to seek by the Sea where hitherto no Man hath sailed such firm Lands and Islands far remote and hitherto unknown who by Gods help making diligent search in the Ocean Seas have found certain remote Islands and firm Land which were not heretofore found by any other in the which as is said many Nations inhabit living peaceably and going naked not accustomed to eat Flesh and as far as your Messengers can conjecture the Nations Inhabiting the foresaid Lands and Islands believe that there is one God Creator in Heaven and seem apt to be brought to the imbracing of the Catholick Faith and to be indued with good manners by reason whereof we may hope that if they be well instructed they may easily be induced to receive the Name of our Saviour Jesus Christ We are further advertised that the forenamed Christopher hath now builded and erected a Fortress with good Munition in one of the foresaid principal Islands in the which he hath placed a Garrison of certain of the Christian Men that went thither with him as well to the intent to defend the same as also to search out other Islands and firm Lands remote yet unknown We also understand that in these Lands and Islands is great plenty of Gold and
c. Some French Divines for the promotion of the League Fol 66. a Popish Principle concerning Kings A. Dom. 15●4 and since approved by Pope Sextus Quintus did maintain That the Prince ought to be deposed that did not to his duty that power is only of God which is well regulated otherwise when it is ill ordered it is not Authority but Thievery the words in the Original are thus Qui'il ny à que la puissance bien ordonne qui Soit de Dieu autrement quand elle est dereglee te n'est pas autorite mais Brigandage qu'il est aussi absurde de dire que celuy la Soit Roy qui ne Soait pas gouverner qui est despouruen d'entendement comme de croire qu'un avengle puisse servir de guide on qu'une Statue imobile puisse faire mounoir des hommes vivans Then came News from Rome that the Pope Sextus Quintus who succeeded Gregory the Thirteenth had approved the League and Fol 68. Auno Dom. 1585. over and above had thundered out his Bulls of Excommunication against the King of Navar and the Prince of Conde declaring them Hereticks Relaps Cheiss Fautors and Protectors of Heresie and as such fallen into the C●nsures and Penalties imported by the Laws and Canons deprived them and their Heirs of all Lands and Dignities and uncapable to succeed to any principality whatsoever and more especially to the Kingdom of France absolving their Subjects from their Oath of Allegiance with a command not to obey them When Henry the Fourth then King of Navar heard what the Pope had done against him Fol. 71. Anno Dom. 1585. he sent presently to King Henry the Third to complain thereof and let him know that it concerned him more than himself That he might well think if the Pope took upon him thus to determine of the Succession to his Kingdom and declare a Prince of the Blood uncapable of the Crown he might afterwards proceed farther and unthrone him as here-tofore Pope Zachary had degraded Childerick the 3d. The Pope gives to the Duke of Joyense all the King of Navarr's Territories Fol. 82. Anno Dom. 1687. Henry the Third is Excommunicated by Pope Sextus Quintus Fol. 100. Anno Dom. 1589. The Leaguers would have the Duke of Mayenne to take upon him the Title of King of France Fol 101. Anno Dom. 1589. which he refuses but accepts another Title which they give him to be Lievtenant General of the State and Crown of France as if the Throne were empty The Leaguers break the Kings great Seal and make a new one on the one side thereof were the Arms of Escutchion of France and on the other and empty Throne with this Inscription about the new Seal Charles Duke of Mayenne Lievtenant of the State and Crown of France Henry the Third being kill'd by a Roman Priest called Jaques Clement Fol. 112. Anno Dom. 1589. a Jacobin those that did not oppose him because he was a Roman Catholick did believe themselves obliged to joyn with the Leaguers against the King of Navar now King of France by the Death of the foresaid King Henry the Third because he was an Hugonot for the Papists of that Kingdom do hold that none can be King of France that is not a Roman Catholick The reproaches of the Parisians Fol. 139. Anno Dom. 1591. the instant desire of the Legate whom the Pope had sent to countenance and uphold the concerns of the League and the Spanish Cabal oblig'd the Duke of Mayenne to give Battel to King Henry 4th of France Paris being besieged by the French King the Popes Legate forgot and omitted nothing Fol. 152. Anno Dom. 1590. that might encourage the Parisians to hold out he consulted the Faculty of Divinity and obtained from that Society such Resolves against the Bearnois for so was called by the Leaguers Henry the Fourth as he thought good the Legate caused several Processions and all Officers took an Oath of Fidelity to the Holy Union for so was the League called by its Abetttors In the mean time Sextus the Fifth dies leaving in the Treasury of the Church five Millions of Gold Fol. 182. Anno Dom. 1591. to him succeeded Vrban the Seventh who dyed within 13 days and to Vrban succeeded Gregory the Fourteenth who with very much zeal supported the League The King of Spain was seconded by Pope Gregory the Fourteenth in his Assistances to the Leaguers Fol. 185. Anno Dom. 1591. who was much more eager and earnest than the said King for them for notwithstanding all the Letters and entreaties from the Lord of Luxemburg afterwards Duke of Piney and other Princes and Lords who continued with Henry the Fourth and being deaf likewise to the Submissions and Remostrances made to him by the Marquiss of Pisani deputed by the Pope he very hotly embraced the Interests of the League These Sixteen were the chief Abettors of the League in Paris he kept correspondence with the Sixteen receiving Letters from them and writing to them again Moreover the Pope did prodigally lavish the Treasure left him by Sextus Quintus to raise an Army of 12000 men which he sent to succor and assist the League the Command whereof he gave to Count Hercules Sfondrati his Nephew whom he made Duke of Montmortion at that instant for the greater lustre and this Army was seconded by a Minatory or Bull of Excommunication against all Prelates that should assist King Henry and sent this Bull by Marcellin Londriane his Nuntio with a great quantity of Money to be distributed amongst the Sixteen and other Chiefs of the Faction in the Principle Cities of France The Parliament at Tours caused the Bull to be torn by the hands of the Common-hangman and ordined Seizure of the Popes Nuntio On the other side the Parliament at Paris repealed this Decree Ordaining that the Pope and his Nuntio must be obeyed King Henry receives Succors out of England Fol. 191. Anno Dom. 1592. and from the Protestants of Germany and then Besieges the City of Roan King Henry turns Papist Fol. 211.212.213 An. Dom. 1593. and is absolved by the Arch-bishop of Bourges in the Abbey-Church of St. Denis Against the said Bishop the Pope is very angry for absolving the King and till he obtain it of the Pope his Rebellious Roman Catholick Subjects refuse to obey him neither would the Pope be perswaded to grant the King his Absolution till his Majesty had upon the matter totally suppressed the League Jean Castel a young Student educated by the Jesuites Fol. 223.224 A. Dom. 1599. attempts to kill the King but by good fortune only wounded him in the Face whereby the Society of Jesuites are banished out of France and their Scholar is executed for this wicked and lewd Attempt King Henry the Fourth is kill'd by Ravilliac who never expressed any kind of sorrow or Repentance for so wicked a Fact being perswaded he had done the Pope and the Church of Rome a very acceptable Service because he thought that King was Marching into Germany to overthrow the Roman Catholick Faith there FINIS
Treatise in praise of James Clement with divers motives to make away the King which last dyed for the which he was Executed But Francis Verona Constant exceeds them all he affirms that notwithstanding the Council of Constance it is lawful for any private man to Murther Kings condemned of Heresie and Tyranny And Emanuel Sa writes that that the Rebellion of a Clerk against the King is no Treason insomuch that he is not Subject to him the which Bellarmine in a manner confirms saying the Pope of Rome hath Exempted Clerks from their subjection to Princes Kings are now no more Superiors of Clerks And to prove their Doctrine of killing Kings more plainly he produceth the equivocations and evasions of Garnet being apprehended for the Powder-Treason the which is justified by many of that Society John Henreux writing thus When any man is drawn into question under an unjust trial no man standing bound to inform against himself as the law of nature teacheth us plainly he may peremptorily and freely deny that for which he is called into question without any tergiversation because he always understands this Clause Ut tenear dicere which Doctrine is confirmed by divers other Jesuites One of them affirming that the Doctrine of Equivocation is grounded upon the memorable Example of St. Francis in the end he shows their opinion touching concealing of Confession which they hold ought not to be revealed John Henreux writing of that Subject sayes That a thing Sealed up with the most holy Signet of Confession cannot be broken without detestable Sacriledge and that there cannot fall so great a mischief for the avoiding of which it can be lawful to bewray a Confession And Suarez adds yea though the safety of the whole Common-weale should stand upon it by all which proof● he shews that it was not Mariana's Doctrine alone to Murther Kings but that all the Jesuites have erred with him in this whom Father Cotton connot justifie in general Anti-Cotton having set down the Jesuites Doctrine he proves it by their Actions and first by the Fact of John Chastel Clerk Confirmed by the Actions brought up in the Jesuites Colledge who having Stabbed the King in the Mouth the 27. of December 1604. being examined upon sundry Questions and among others wh ther he had studied Divinity in the Jesuites Colledge he answered that he had been th●re und●r Fath●r Gueet with whom he had continued two years and a half And being ask●d if he had ever been in the Chamber of Meditation whither the Jesuites use to bring the greatest Sinners there to behold the Representation of many Devils set forth under colour to reduce them to a better Life thereby to cause a perturbation in their minds and consequently upon such resolutions to thrust them forward to the undertaking of some gr●at Action His answer was that he had often been in the Chamber of Meditations And being questioned whether the killing of the King were not an ordinary disc urse amongst the Jesuites answered that he had heard them say it was lawful to kill the King and that he was no member of the Church and that we ought not to obey him nor hold him for our King untill he had received approbation from the Pope Peter Barriere being apprehended at Melun in April 1593. being d scovered by an honest Fryer Confessed that he came purposely to Court to kill the King and that he had been p●rswaded thereunto by one Varade a Jesuite whose dayly practice was to d●fame the King with v●le Speeches by wh se perswasion he had provided a Knife to do the Fact he first of all discovered his intent to Aubrey Curate of St. Andrew des Acts who directed him to Varade Rector of the Jesuites Coll●dge who confirmed him in his Resolution to kill the King assuring h m that in case he were put to death he should obtain in Heaven a Crown of Martyrdom and adjuring him unto this Action upon the Sacrament of Confession and to Holy Communion And omitting many Actions of Jesuites both at home and abroad to prove their damnable Doctrine he concludes with Garnet Hall and others of the Sect who were Complices in that Powd●r-Treason which was practised to ruine the King and the whole Estates of England In the end he seeks to prove by many pregnant presumptions that the Jesuites are guilty of the Murther First by an Advertisement sent from M. de la force the Kings Lievtenant in Bearn that a Spaniard described by him was come into France with an intent to kill the King which Spaniard was brought unto the King by Cotton but the King having received these Letters shewed them to Cotton and commanded him to bring the Spaniard again but he could not be found 2. Secondly the seditious Preaching of Gontier and Hardy both Jesuites the Lent before the Fact was committed insomuch that the Marshal D'Ornano told the King that if Gontier had Preached so at Bourdeaux he would have caused him to be cast into the River and yet he was as very Zealous Catholick 3. Thirdly the Confession of Ravilliac who justified unto Father Aubigny that he had told him in Confession that he had been sent to give a great blow and that he had shewed him the Knife having a heart graven upon it But the Jesuit protested That God had given him the grace to forget that presently which was revealed to him in Confession whereby he saved his Life And last of all the Predictions before the Kings death as at Bruxelles it was spoken of twelve or fifteen days before it happened At Prague it had been given out that the King was dead before it fell out so and moreover it was told them that after his death the Daulphin should not be King but the King of Spain and that for some reasons which Gontier gave in his Sermons in Lent last and then the Prediction of the Provost of Pluviers that the King was either slain or hurt that day He was a Jesuit in Faction and had a Son a Jesuit To conclude I think it not amiss to say something concerning the first General Council that ever was in the Church of Christ you have the whole Story of it in the 15 Chap. of the Acts of the Holy Apostles I shall take notice that it was not called by the particular direction of any of the Apostles but that all of them did concur th●r●unto and this was doubtless the Method of the Christian Church during it's greatest Purity and Integrity and the truth is no other way could be used while the Church of Christ was under Persecution but in process of time when supreme powers did receive and protect the Christian Faith and that as the Scripture saith Kings and Queens were Nursing Fathers and Nursing Mothers of the Spouse of Christ then were General Councils summon'd by them and by them were these Councils left to their free Debates and determinations whose Decrees were afterwards confirm'd by the Supreme Authorities
is the best so it is the safest Religion that is I beseech you Sir do not mistake me I do not I assure you speak this as being of their perswasion but to be better enabled by you to oppose our Adversaries when they shall object to us this fallacious argument Ortho. Sir you shall not want what I can contribute to your satisfaction and truly I think this may be easily answered and I shall begin with a reply I have heard of a very learned man upon this Subject in a Disputation between him and a Papist who being at his last shift and forced to make use of your abovesaid Argument answered thus Sir says he do not condemn us for an excess of Charity towards you and consider how want of Charity in you towards us may be laid to your charge another day And withall take notice of this that in the same manner those infamous Schismaticks the Donatists argued against St. Austin and the Catholick Church taking hold of their Confession that Salvation might be had in their Churches which was not said these Schismaticks to be had in a Catholick Church thus did these wicked Schismaticks conclude with the Papists their Religion to be the surest and safest and so consequently the best also Doth not the King of Assyria by his Servants rant and argue against good King Hezekiah much at this rate in the 2 of the Kings and the 18 Chap. Have any of the gods of the Nations at all delivered his Land out of the Hand of the King of Assyria Where are the gods of Hamath and of Arphad Where are the gods of Sepharvaim Henah and Ivah Have they delivered Samaria out of my Hand Who are they Amongst all the gods of the Countries that have delivered their Country out of my Hand that the Lord should deliver Jerusalem out of my Hand Caco One word more Sir and I promise you I have done Does not the Author of whom you quote the Story of the Speaking Idol c. express an aversion against and relate some things to the prejudice of Arch-Bishop Laud towards the Conclusion of his Book Ortho. I confess he does and he is blame-worthy for it but withal to be pityed if you consider his case aright and thus it is in his Infancy with his Milk he sucks in the Roman Religion has his Education in Popish Countries becomes a Priest goes over an Emissary into the Indies for the advancing and propagating the Romish Religion However being a Man of Parts and Learning through all the Mists and Clouds of Error he discerneth the unreasonableness first and then the dangerous Tenets of the Church of Rome but all this while it is scarce much more than Break of day with him he is but a Negative Christian but a Neophyte the Roman Religion he perceives is bad but as yet knows little of the Protestant Religion Thus endowed he comes over into England very little before our Civil Wars began still troubled in mind he goes over into Italy to Rome where he thought if any place could afford him satisfaction in the Romish Perswasion there it must be in that place he converses with Eminent Divines who tell him strange Stories of the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury his great inclination to return to the Roman Church This Neophyte this doubting wavering Christian is told these falshoods by these Roman Divines to encourage him to go over an Emissary into England and there labour vigorously in the Roman Vineyard the poor Man believes that which these men knew to be false but this must be rumor'd to gain English Proselytes you know how much the Church of Rome allows of officious and beneficial Lyes confirm those they have and add Reputation to their Cause amongst the English Papists and observe Sir do not the Papists the same thing now Do they not observe the same Method still to the great dis-heartening His Majesties Protestant Subjects so that the King and Parliament have been forced to take notice of their Insolencies Well Sir with this prejudice to the Protestant Church of England and the Arch-Bishop This Neophyte this doubting Christian comes over into England where every innocent Ceremony and the Liturgy of the Church of England confirm in him the Belief of the Italian Falshoods concerning the Arch-Bishop c. and by reason of that his perswasion he proves as great an Enemy to the Church of England as of Rome and thus out of the Frying Pan or out of one Fire he leaps into another and so turns a new kind of Fanatick and it often falls out that out of one extream Men are apt to run into another and therefore it often falls out that when a Protestant turns Papist he for the most part does throw himself into the Arms and Bosom of a Jesuite and then sucks in all their wicked and abominable practices as principles against the Sovereignty of Kings Humane Society and Moral Virtues and the Dictates of Nature a stout Champion of the Pope and Court of Rome rather than the Church of Rome against all Temporal and Civil Interests whatsoever you may be sure such a Convert he proves and truly this is so natural to Man in avoiding one Rock of danger and offence to fall foul upon another that if Men be not very wary and discreet they can hardly avoid it thus when a Papist turns Protestant he is apt to turn from being that to throw himself headlong into all sorts of Enthusiastick phrensies in opposition to Popery this was the case of this Author for he was so fearful of the Rock of Popery that he fell foul upon the Rock of Enthusiasm and there made Ship-wrack of his Faith and therefore waving that passage concerning the Arch-Bishop and Monarchy let us believe the rest concerning the Idol c. for he delivers them upon his own knowledge being an Eye-witness and not reports from others and now thus I have Sir I hope answered your Scruple concerning this Author Caco I do confess you have very fully and now I will give you no further trouble at this time yet if it be not too troublesome to you be pleased to let a small piece of some two sheets of Paper conclude our Discourse Ortho. Name it Sir and you shall be obeyed Caco It is that which you shewed me lately the Title of it is this An Answer to a Pamphlet Entituled The humble Apology of the English Catholicks written by a Royalist before Christmas Ortho. I 'am ready to obey you and thus I begin and first with the Title though I but repeat your foregoing words An Answer to a Pamphlet Entituled The humble Apology of the English Catholicks Written by a Royalist before Christmas 1666. Thuanus Miseros Principes quibus de conjuratione non creditur nisi occisis IF the Author of the Apology could make good the beginning of his Discourse I could very heartily turn Apologist for him and his Friends He says aright and the Devil spake true when he
cry'd aloud that Jesus was the Son of God that the Arms which Christians may use against Lawful powers in their Severities are only Prayers and Tears Thus far he speaks like a Protestant that is to say a Primitive Christian and it might have stood as a fair Character of his pretended Innocency had he not foully bespattered it in the Sequel with the Dirt he casts upon the face of Authority But first It would be considered what it is the Apologist would be at upon his frequent Compellation of his Lords and Gentlemen is it to draw them to a firm Combination with those of his Roman party against all such as should question the innocency of his Carriage and Intentions Nothing less it seems can satisfie or secure him unless my Lords and Gentlemen that is the old constant Royalists stand up for his Advocate he must fall under the heavy censure of his greatest Adversaries who to complete the mischief and misery of it are not only become his Accusers but his Insulting Judges as he complains And now it is high time for my Lords and Gentlemen to remember their often Vows to that party and Renounce all further Conjunction with them that have been the cause of so great Calamity to the Nation as he there tells them But is not this Davide Impera and though they did not nip the Plant in the Bud yet now being grown up and not likely to answer them in the expected Fruits they will endeavor so to dismember the parts as may manifestly endanger the whole For what else mean those words Let it never be Recorded in Story that you forgot your often Vows to us injoyning to them those insulting Judges as he terms them before that have been the cause of so great Calamity to this Nation Is not a Dis-union here manifestly endeavored and that in direct contradiction to what was before protested far be it from Catholicks to perplex Parliaments To reconcile this difference in the expressions will well become the Apologist before he answer the following Objections which he makes his next task And here first he presents his Catholick Party astonished even to admiration at that Calumny above the rest that their Principles are said to be inconsistent with Government and they themselves thought ever prone to Rebellion as if because they account themselves the only Orthodox Christians they must necessarily be very loyal Subjects at the least Indeed If they could make good the former we had reason to expect some compliance as to the latter Religio à religando seeing Religion hath its name from the Connexion and strick conjunction it works in its Professors as with each other so in all with that government and Governors under which they have their common protection .. But how Orthodox and united Roman Catholicks are in the grounds of their Belief the main Ingredient in the Essence of Religion hath sufficiently appeared in the Writings of many who have unanswerably evinced the nullity of the Romanists Faith whether ultimately resolved into their virtual Church the Pope with his Conclave as the Jesuites will have it or into the representative Church a General Council as others will have it or into both the former conjoyned as others contend or erranti nullus terminus into the new mode of Oval Tradition as it is lately and clamorously urged by others who abominate the former Yet though our Catholicks do thus stagger in the Grounds of their Faith are they not more firm in their Fealties and Loyalties Surely their Principles are every way consisting with the Government under which they live Nothing less and it will plainly appear if we consider the Doctrine of their Church and their frequent practice to the former much need not be said that the Pope the acknowledged Head of their Church hath a plenary power to Excommunicate all Christian Kings that will not close with Papal Perswasion and when they are Excommunicated that they cease to be Kings that their Subjects are absolved from all Fealty and Allegiance to them yea may take up Arms against them and so murder them All this is so notoriously known that as no real Roman Catholick will deny so it were needless to urge further proof of it He that hath leisure may find enough of this Becanus Bellarmine Rossius Molina Campion Stapleton c. in Alvarez Mariana and others that speak expresly enough at this rate and hath it not been sufficiently verified in the Roman Catholicks practice 't is well known who encouraged one Parry to Murther Queen Elizabeth what Pope it was that issued out his dreadful Excommunication animating the Subjects of England against her and if you will allow of Cardinal Perron's positive Sentence he will tell you that that Doctrine which renders Kings indeposable opens a gap to no less than Schism and Heresie and hereby as if it were not only Lawful but necessary to suppress whatever they be that will not Conform to the Popish Hierarchy He that should see a Sovereign Prince holding the Bason whilst the Pope washeth his Hands and another no less Sovereign holding his Stirrup though unfortunately mistaken in the side whilst he mounts up on Horse-back yea he that should see that Bishop of Rome treading on a great Princes neck and abusing that of the Psalmist for justification of his usurped power Super Leonem aspidem c. cannot but conclude that Dominus Deus noster Papa as the Canonists stile him will be Supream Prince of the Christian World and that all other Potentates must limit their Authority and Jurisdiction according to the measure of his Placet And now the Premises considered that upon the Popes excommunication Kings cease to be such and stand lawfully exposed to all insolencies of their Subjects as hath already appear'd I cannot but very much wonder that the Romanists should be so angry with Cromwel Bradshaw and the rest of that hellish Crue for Murthering our late Sovereign of Blessed Memory were they not taught by those Romish Fathers above cited to Murther Charles Stuart and yet not kill the King I dare boldly say that our late Republicarians have not one Tenet that is destructive to Civil Government and the Sovereignty of Kings that was not first broached by the Romanists to whom we owe our late Confusions which hath answered the Predictions of Gondamore the Spanish Embassador who when he returned to Spain gave out that he had kindled a Fire in England which would burst out Forty Years afterwards Not to insist upon those several disguises presented by the Romanists in the late Troubles under the habit of all sorts of Mechanick Artists Soldiers and others so to Preach up and foment the Rebellion with our home-bred Sectarians this may suffice to demonstrate how ill-consistent their Principles are with our English Government and consequently how weakly they acquit themselves of that Calumny they complain of even to Admiration but the Apologist hath his other pretences and