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A60860 Some seasonable remarks upon the deplorable fall of the Emperour Julian with an epistle of his to the citizens of Bostra / now made English ; by Philaretus Anthropopolita. Philaretus Anthropopolita. 1681 (1681) Wing S4610; ESTC R349 12,945 32

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abuse Burlesque and expose the rest and that person were most happy who could procure a Priviledge or Patent from God or Man for so doing Let such men read the Epistle above and blush at the equal candour and impartial Charity of a Heathen and for the future study to recover the Reputation of decay'd Christianity by better cultivating its Essentials Piety Loyalty Charity Sobriety and mutual Forbearance In fine however Clergy differ in smaller points such as School Subtleties Rituals Jurisdiction over us Humour or Interest let not the honest Laity intermeddle much less espouse their Quarrels unless they shall desire them as in times of Primitive and Impolitick Christianity to give their Suffrage among them Irenicum Pag. 398. Representing the Judgments of our first Reformers concerning Ecclesiastick Politie SOon after were called together by the Kings special order the former select Assembly at Windsor-Castle where met as far as I can guess by the several Papers delivered in by every one of them singly and subscribed with their own hands all which I have perused these following persons Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury Edward Archbishop of York the Bishop of Rochester Edmund Bishop of London Robert Bishop of Carlisle Dr. George Day Dr. Thomas Robertson Dr. J. Redmayne Dr. Edward Leighton Dr. Simon Matthew Dr. William Tresham Dr. Richard Cozen Dr. Edgeworth Dr. Owen Oglethorp Dr. Thyrliby These all gave in their several Resolutions in Papers to the Questions propounded with their Names subscribed a far more prudent way than the confusion of verbal and tedious Disputes all whose judgments are accurately summed up and set down by the Archbishop of Canterbury himself Their Resolutions contain distinct Answers to several sorts of Questions propounded to them The first set contained several Questions about the Mass about the Instituting Receiving Nature Celebration of it and whether in the Mass it be convenient to use such Speech as the people may understand whether the whole were fit to be Translated or only some part of it with several other Questions of the same nature The second set is more pertinent to our purpose wherein are Seventeen Questions proposed to be resolved Ten of them belong to the number of Sacraments the other Seven concern Church-Government The Questions are these Q. 9. Whether the Apostles lacking a higher power as in not having a Christian King among them made Bishops by that necessity or by Authority given them of God 10. Whether Bishops or Priests were first and if the Priests were first then the Priest made the Bishop 11. Whether a Bishop hath Authority to make a Priest by the Scripture or no and whether any other but only a Bishop may make a Priest 12. Whether in the New Testament be required any Consecration of any Bishop and Priest or only appointing to the Office be sufficient 13. Whether if it fortuned a Prince Christen learned to Conquer certain Dominions of Infidels having none but the Temporal Learned men with him it be defended by Gods Laws that he and they should Preach and Teach the Word of God there or no and also make and Constitute Priests or no 14. Whether it be forfended by Gods Law that if it so fortuned that all the Bishops and Priests were dead and that the word of God should be there unpreached the Sacrament of Baptism and others unministred that the King of that Region should make Bishops and Priests to supply the same or no 16. Whether a Bishop or a Priest may Excommunicate and for what Crimes and whether they only may Excommunicate by Gods Law These are the Questions to which the Answers are severally returned in distinct Papers all of them bound together in a large Volume by Archbishop Cranmer and every one subscribed their Names and some their Seals to the Papers delivered in It would be too tedious a work to set down their several Opinions at large only for the deserved reverence all bear to the name and memory of that most worthy Prelate and glorious Martyr Archbishop Cranmer I shall set down his Answer distinctly to every one of those Questions and the Answers of some others to the more material Questions to our purpose To the Ninth Qu. All Christian Princes have committed unto them immediately of God the whole cure of all their Subjects as well concerning the administration of Gods word for the cure of Souls as concerning the ministration of things Political and civil governance And in both these Ministrations they must have sundry Ministers under them to supply that which is appointed to their several Offices The Civil Ministers under the Kings Majesty in this Realm of England be those whom it shall please his Highness for the time to put in Authority under him as for example the Lord Chancellour Lord Treasurer Lord great Master Lord Privy Seal Lord Admiral Mayors Sheriffs c. The Ministers of Gods word under his Majesty be the Bishops Parsons Vicars and such other Priests as be appointed by his Highness to that Ministration as for example the Bishop of Canterbury the Bishop of Duresme the Bishop of Winchester the Parson of Wynwick c. All the said Officers and Ministers as well of the one sort as the other be appointed assigned and elected in every place by the Laws and Orders of Kings and Princes In the admission of many of these Officers be divers comely Ceremonies and Solemnities used which be not of necessity but only for a good Order and seemly Fashion For if such Offices and Ministrations were committed without such Solemnity they were nevertheless truely committed And there is no more promise of God that Grace is given in the committing of the Ecclesiastical Office than it is in the committing of the Civil In the Apostles time when there were no Christian Princes by whose Authority Ministers of Gods Word might be appointed nor Sins by the Sword corrected there was no remedy then for the correction of Vice or appointing of Ministers but only the consent of Christian Multitude among themselves by an uniform Consent to follow the Advice and Perswasion of such persons whom God had most endued with the Spirit of Wisdom and Counsel And at that time forasmuch as Christian people mark had no Sword nor Governour among them they were constrained of necessity to take such Curates and Priests as either they knew themselves to be meet thereunto or else as were commended unto them by others that were so replete with the Spirit of God with such knowledge in the profession of Christ such wisdom such conversation and counsel that they ought even of very Conscience to give credit unto them and to except such as by them were presented And so sometimes the Apostles and others unto whom God had given abundantly his Spirit sent or appointed Ministers of Gods word sometime the people did choose such as they thought meet thereunto and when they were appointed or sent by the Apostles or others the people of their own voluntary will with thanks did accept them not for the Supremacy Imperie or Dominion that the Apostles had over them to command as their Princes or Masters but as good people honestly said ready to obey the advice of good Councellors and to accept any thing that was necessary for their edification and benefit To Qu. 10. The Bishops and Priests were at one time and were not two things but both one Office in the beginning of Christs Religion 11. A Bishop may make a Priest by the Scriptures and so may Princes and Governours also and that by the Authority of God committed them and the People also by their Election For as we read that Bishops have done it so Christian Emperours and Princes have done it And the People mark this before Christian Princes were commonly did elect their Bishops and Priests 12. In the New-Testament he that is appointed to be a Bishop or a Priest needeth no Consecration by the Scripture for Election or appointing thereto is sufficient 13. It is not against Gods Law but contrary they ought in deed so to do and there be Histories that witness that some Christian Princes and other Lay-men unconsecrate have done the same 14. It is not forbidden by Gods Law 15. A Bishop or a Priest by the Scripture is neither commanded nor forbidden to Excommunicate But where the Laws of any Region give him Authority to Excommunicate there they ought to use the same in such Crimes as the Laws have such Authority in And where the Laws of the Region forbid them there they have no Authority at all And they that be no Priests may also Excommunicate if the Law allow thereunto Thus far that excellent person in whose Judgment nothing is more clear than his ascribing the particular Form of Government in the Church to the determination of the Supreme Magistrate This Judgment of his is thus subscribed by him with his own hand T. Cantuariens This is mine Opinion and Sentence at this present which I do not temerariously define but do remit the judgment thereof wholly to your Majesty Which I have exactly transcribed out of the Original and have observed generally the Form of Writing at that time used In the same M. S. it appears that the Bishop of St. Asaph Thyrleby Redman and Cox were all of the same Opinion with the Archbishop that at first Bishops and Presbyters were the same and the two later expressly cite the Opinion of Jerome with approbation Thus we see by the Testimony chiefly of him who was instrumental in our Reformation that he owned not Episcopacy as a distinct Order from Presbytery of Divine Right but only as a prudent Constitution of the Civil Magistrate for the better Governing the Church Thus far the worthy Authour of Irenicum to which I subscribe and conclude FINIS