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A90523 A defence of church-government, exercised in presbyteriall, classicall, & synodall assemblies; according to the practise of the reformed churches: touching I. The power of a particular eldership, against those that plead for a meere popular government, specially Mr Ainsvvorth in his Animadversion to Mr Clyft. &c. II. The authority of classes and synods, against the patrons of independencie: answering in this poynt Mr Davenport his Apologeticall reply, &c. and Mr Canne his Churches plea, &c, sent forth first by W. Best, and afterwards for this part of it, under the title of Syons prerogative royall. By Iohn Paget, late able and faithfull pastour of the Reformed English Church in Amsterdam. Hereunto is prefixed an advertisement to the Parliament, wherein are inserted some animadversions on the Cheshire Remonstrance against Presbytery: by T.P. Paget, John, d. 1640.; Paget, Thomas, d. 1660. 1641 (1641) Wing P166; Thomason E117_1; ESTC R16734 348,418 298

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synop_n papi_n cont_n 3._o qu._n 1_o p._n 105._o a_o wholesome_a mean_n for_o the_o repress_v and_o reform_v both_o of_o error_n in_o religion_n and_o corruption_n in_o manner_n he_o allege_v the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o opinion_n be_v ground_v upon_o truth_n and_o scripture_n namely_o that_o those_o which_o be_v lawful_o call_v unto_o synod_n 109.110_o synod_n qu._n 3._o p._n 109.110_o have_v determine_v voice_n and_o power_n to_o give_v sentence_n and_o give_v instance_n in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n where_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la be_v condemn_v and_o cut_v off_o as_o a_o enemy_n to_o the_o truth_n etc._n etc._n he_o avouch_v that_o 123._o that_o qu._n 7._o p._n 123._o they_o have_v authority_n to_o judge_v examine_v suspend_v punish_v and_o depose_v etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o d._n willet_n full_o accord_v with_o we_o in_o this_o point_n that_o there_o be_v a_o superior_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n d._n tailor_n next_o allege_v afford_v they_o no_o help_n whereas_o he_o say_v that_o 712._o that_o com._n on_o tit._n 3.10_o p._n 712._o excommunication_n be_v the_o common_a action_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o any_o private_a person_n or_o person_n we_o also_o affirm_v the_o same_o thing_n our_o profession_n and_o practice_v always_o have_v be_v never_o to_o excommunicate_v any_o without_o common_a consent_n of_o our_o church_n but_o have_v we_o do_v unjust_o at_o any_o time_n therein_o we_o may_v just_o have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o a_o synod_n or_o classis_fw-la and_o yet_o then_o also_o the_o minister_n and_o deputy_n assemble_v in_o the_o name_n of_o many_o church_n can_v with_o no_o reason_n be_v account_v private_a person_n and_o though_o we_o think_v ourselves_o bind_v to_o ask_v counsel_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o these_o church_n before_o we_o proceed_v to_o cut_v off_o any_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n this_o prove_v no_o deprivation_n but_o a_o direction_n of_o our_o power_n now_o whether_o i_o have_v just_a cause_n to_o blush_v for_o deny_v to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n that_o due_a power_n which_o the_o learned_a of_o all_o profession_n do_v grant_v unto_o she_o as_o mr_n can_n and_o will._n bdoe_v without_o blush_a 86._o blush_a ch._n pl._n p._n 86._o charge_n i_o let_v the_o judicious_a &_o impartial_a reader_n judge_v sect_n v._o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o english_a nonconformist_n under_o the_o title_n of_o this_o kind_n of_o witness_n they_o allege_v against_o i_o the_o replyer_n to_o d._n downame_n mr_n parker_n the_o author_n of_o the_o english_a puritanisme_n d._n ames_n mr_n baines_n mr_n bates_n mr_n fenner_n mr_n udall_n the_o english_a church_n at_o frank_n ford_n and_o mr_n hooker_n these_o be_v etc._n be_v ch._n pl._n p._n 86_o etc._n etc._n here_o produce_v and_o in_o another_o 23._o another_o p._n 23._o place_n unto_o which_o he_o refer_v we_o for_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o cite_v also_o the_o protestation_n of_o the_o king_n supremacic_n d._n fulke_o and_o our_o countryman_n in_o new-england_n for_o answer_v hereunto_o first_o concern_v some_o of_o these_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o mr_n cannes_n mind_n in_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n observe_v how_o idle_o and_o superfluous_o he_o allege_v they_o against_o i_o when_o as_o he_o know_v that_o i_o myself_o do_v acknowledge_v and_o note_v so_o much_o before_o as_o namely_o the_o judgement_n of_o 74._o of_o answ_n to_o w._n b._n p._n 74._o mr_n hooker_n 27_o hooker_n ib._n p._n 27_o d._n ames_n and_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n by_o who_o also_o the_o protestation_n of_o k._n supremacy_n be_v say_v to_o be_v write_v these_o i_o have_v confess_v to_o be_v opposite_a unto_o i_o in_o this_o