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A77534 Two remarkable letters concerning the Kings correspondence with the Irish rebels. The first by Digby in the Kings name to the Irish Commisioners. The second from the Lord Muskery one of those Commissioners in answer to Digby. Also a full state of the Irish negotiation at Oxford now treated, set forth in the rebels propositions, and the Kings particular concessions. Published according to order. Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677.; Clancarty, Donogh MacCarty, Earl of, 1594-1665.; Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677. Two letters of his sacred Majesty. 1645 (1645) Wing B4785; Thomason E300_8; ESTC R200255 11,715 16

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criminall and personall and the said Act extend to all Goods and Chattels customes maisne profits prizes arrears of Rent taken received or incurred since this trouble 17 Forasmuch as your Majesties said Catholick subjects have been taxed with many inhumane cruelties which they never committed your Majesties said subjects therfore for their vindication and to manifest to all the world their desire to have such heynous offences punished and the offenders brought to justice do desire that in the next Parliament all notorious murders breaches of quarter and inhumane cruelties committed of either side may be questioned in the said Parliament if your Majesty so think fit and such shall appear to be guilty to be excepted out of the said Act of Oblivion and punished according to their deserts Forasmuch Dread Soveraign as the wayes of our addresses unto your Majesty for apt remedies unto our grievances were hitherto debarred us but now at length through your benigne grace and favour laid open We do humbly present these in pursuance of the said Remonstrance which granted your said subjects are ready to contribute the ten thousand men as in their Remonstrance is specified towards the suppressing of the unnaturall rebellion now in this Kingdom and will further expose their lives and fortunes to serve your Majesty as occasion shall require Additionall Propositions 1. THat an Act be passed this next parliament prohibiting that neither the Lord Deputy Lord Chancellor Lord High Treasurer Vice-Treasurer Chancellor or any of the Barons of the Exchequer Privy-Councell or Judges of the foure Courts be Farmours of your Majesties customes 2. That an Act of Parliament may passe in Ireland against all Monopolies such as was enacted in England 21. year of King James with a further clause for repealing of all Grants of Monopolies in Ireland 3. That the Court of Castle-Chamber in Ireland having been an oppression to the subjects and there being other remedies for the offences questioned in that Court by the common Law and Statutes of th●…r Realm be taken away or otherwise limited as both Houses shall thin●… 4. That two Acts lately passed in Ireland one prohibiting the plowing with horses by the tayle and the other prohibiting the burning of Oates in straw may be repealed 5. That it may please your Majesty to give order that upon presenting the names of three persons of quality in each County by your suppliants to your chief Governor or Governors their Patents be passed to such of those so to be presented respectively to be Sheriffes in each County as to be chief Governor or Governors shall seem meet to make choice of for that purpose 6. That one or more Agents from that Kingdom may be admitted still to attend his Majesty for his Information of the Affairs of that Kingdom And that as a testimony of his Majesties favour some of the Nobles and others of quality of that Kingdom may be imployed about your Majesties person 7. Forasmuch as divers of the Scotch Nation and others in Ireland do not obey the present Cessation and many of them having of late taken the Covenant proposed by the Members of the Parliament at Westminster now in Arms against your Majesty it is therfore humbly desired that such as disobey the said Cessation or have taken the said Covenant be by his Majesties appointment proclaimed Traitors in Ireland and prosecuted accordingly by your Majesties authority And that such Counties or Corporations as have not submitted to the now Cessation of Arms in that Kingdom according to your Majesties Commission be not admitted to make any return to the Parliament 8. Forasmuch as since the late Commotion in that Kingdom some persons of quality of his Majesties Romane Catholick subjects dyed or were killed and their estates by means thereof became wast and uselesse That therfore for the better enabling of that partie to serve your Majesty It is humbly desired that the Wardship of their heires and the management of their estates be granted to such as shal be accountable to the said heires for the profit of those lands whereby their lands may be of some use to the common-wealth in their contributions to his Majesties service 9. Forasmuch as sundrie persons estated in that Kingdom have either actually raised Armes in this Kingdom against your Majestie or have otherwise adhered to the malignant party now in Arms against your Majestie that therfore it may please your Majestie to give way to the impeachment and Attainder of those and of such Officers whose names we shall here represent to your Majestie by way of Bill in Parliament wherby they may receive condigne punishment for their offences and your Majestie take advantage of the forfeiture of their estates And in the interim those possessions to remain in the hands wherein they are at present 10. Forasmuch as upon application of Agents from that Kingdom to your Majestie in the fourth yeer of your Reign and lately upon humble suit made to your Majestie by a Committee of both Houses of the Parliament of that Kingdom Order was given by your Majestie for redresses of severall grievances It is therfore humblie desired that for so many of those as are not expressed in the now Propositions presented to your Majestie whereof both Houses in the next ensuing Parliament shall desire the benefit of your Majesties said former directions for redresses that the same be afforded them 11. That the Office of Admirall in that Kingdom be setled independant of none but your Majestie whereby Maritine Causes may be determined there without driving Merchants or others to appeal or seek Justice elsewhere in those Causes Concerning any thing in Religion His Majesties Answer is 1. THat as the Laws against those of the Romish Religion within that His Kingdom of Ireland have never been executed with any rigor or severity So if such his Subjects shall by their returning to their dutie and loyaltie merit His Majesties favour and protection they shall not for the future have cause to complain that lesse moderation is used towards them then hath been in the most favourable of Queen E and King James his times Provided that under pretence of Conscience they do not stir up Sedition but live quietly and peaceably according to their Allegiance 2. Touching the calling a free Parliament by which His Majestie supposes the Proposers intend a new Parliament His Majestie saies that he could wish that all the particulars might be fully agreed on and ratified this Parliament His Majestie well understanding That his Protestant Subjects may be in far greater danger in a new Parliament then the Proposers and their partie can be in this His Majestie being willing to give them any securitie that can be desired against their apprehensions Howsoever since some objections and doubts are raised of the legall continuance of this Parliament since the death of the Lord Deputie Wansford and by the late arrivall of his Majesties Commission after the day of meeting upon the Prorogation though those doubts may
Interpretations For say the people these pretences of conscience are either feined or unfeined in His Majestie if they be unfeined then how shall our side ever trust him If Conscience will not permit Him to grant us Churches now in his greatest conflictations though to redeem his Crown what will He grant us when he has no further use of us at all And if for State reasons not known to all the world He can now so treat millions of that Religion which is so precious to Him How can He want the like pretexts to oppresse us whom He esteems hereticall in so high a degree when the face of things shall change Again if these Pleas of Conscience be feined what side can ever trust him at all T is safer for us to live under a King that is of any Religion which may limit and bind his conscience with some certain Laws whatsoever they be then to serve a Master that either has no Religion or no such Religion as can hold his conscience in any subjection T is probable the Protestants themselves will agree to this as well as Papists My Lord the Irish have hitherto generally beleeved the King to be a Roman-Catholick in his heart and only constrained to dissemble the same and so the main current of his actions here have assured them but now these professions made so sanctimoniously at such a time of exigence as this give stronger assurance of the contrarie and yet neither so can they be freed from all doubts and fluctuations For say they can that conscience which checks not at the granting of a toleration without Churches by taking away all penall Laws and allowing other great immunities suffer such shipwrack at our demands of Churches for the free exercise of our Religion we should deal unfaithfully with ourselves if we should not acknowledge that the King in his Concessions already by granting us such a share in the Legislative Military and Judiciall power and by taking away former penalties has condiscended to as much as can truly conduce to the propagation of our Religion that which we request further is but for the more ease or pomp or better accommodation of such as professe our Religion This therfore creates the more intricacy in the case and makes the matter more irreconcileable when we behold that the complemental or ornamental part is abjured so solemnly as repugnant to conscience and yet the more substantiall virtuall part is agreed to without reluctance Thus as our doubts so our fears multiply for we well know that if the King bona fide have so high an esteem of his own Religion He must have as low a one of ours and the consequence will be when the tye of a promise shall hereafter come into competition with such an esteem when it shall be disputed whether the Kings ingagement to us do in some degree empeach or hazard the Protestant Profession or no and if it do then whether such an ingagement be rescindible or no a Protestant Casuist will easily unloose his Conscience But the King threatens to joyn with the Scots c. how odious soever if we accept not of his Propositions without further debate Surely my Lord if the King does joyn with the Scots c. this Kingdom hopes to be otherwise protected and if it were wholly exposed to the mercy of the Protestants yet it sees not how it has merited to be cut off from all reconciliation more then the King and his Oxford party has nay it presumes very far that it shall give a better account for its pursuing its naturall interests then such as have been more unnaturall can In the last place my Lord wheras you seem to wonder at the Irish as changed from their former aimes and us that were Commissioners as transported beyond our former promises and expressions The Answer will be very ready For had we received lesse satisfaction in due season before we had expended so much blood time and treasure in this warre it had been equivalent to a greater proportion now given us or had that been of grace given which the Sword has by its own dint gained a charge of ingratitude might have been laid upon us if we had further extended our demands But I shall not need to inlarge upon this Subject or to represent things otherwise to your Lordship then a Letter will permit if I should I should seem to out-run your Lordships nimbler apprehension or to utter my own conceits instead of the speeches of the people I am more afraid of prolixity and therfore heartily wishing your Lordship may make good use of these Avisoes for the better mollifying of his Majestie I kisse your hands and assume the honour to list my self My Lord Your humble Servant Mu●kery To a Friend in the Countrey SIR I have gotten Copies of two Letters not yet divulged which I here send you as worthy of your perusall The first from Digby to the Rebels is true and authentick the other I suspect to be counterfeited but so as it comes very neer to truth Out of both you will find what distance there is and what has caused it betwixt the King and his good Catholick Subjects of Ireland They as well as we of England and Scotland are liable to vicissitudes in the Kings favour according to turns of his endlesse designes They were monstrous prodigious unparalell'd Traytors They are now loving loyall good Subjects but if they make not haste to cut throats here as well as they have done in Ireland they may probably ere-long change their style again for that which we have now and perhaps we may be restored to that which they have now There 's nothing impossible to a Proclamation dated at Oxford if Montrosse do not hinder it Neither of these Letters discover any thing to me I alwayes apprehended what I here find this onely I wonder at The King still takes no notice of that which is the Rebels true End and Intent nor do the Rebels of that which the King shoots at Yet t is impossible that the King should think the Irish cordially devoted either to the defending of Protestantisme or inlarging of Prerogative and t is improbable now they should think the King to be in Arms for introducing of Popery or establishing their old Tanistry and other barbarous customes Both having contrary intentions the King thinks to out wit the Irish and this the Irish cannot be ignorant of the Irish think as far to over-reach the King and the King cannot but suspect the same yet still in debates both proceed and alledge other matter whilest in the mayn they seem to make a 〈…〉 both in deceiving and in being voluntarily deceived This it is to forsake the beaten road of policie and to wander in the blind mazes of subtilty or rather perfidie after all that sea of Protestant blood which it has cost the King to comply with Papists now he is driven to a new consultation whether it be safer for