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A63227	The tryals of Thomas Walcot, William Hone, William Lord Russell, John Rous & William Blagg for high-treason for conspiring the death of the King, and raising a rebellion in this kingdom at the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily, London, on a commission of oyer and terminer held there for the city of London and county of Middlesex, on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 12, 13 and 14, 1683.	Walcot, Thomas, d. 1683.; Hone, William, d. 1683.; Russell, William, Lord, 1639-1683.; Rouse, John, d. 1683.; Blague, William.; England and Wales. Court of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery (London and Middlesex).	1683 (1683)	Wing T2265; ESTC R21861	139,903	84

This is matter of Law Neither was there but one meeting at Mr. Sheppards House Mr. At. Gen My Lord If you admit the Fact and will rest upon the Point of Law I am ready to argue it with any of your Counsel I will acquaint your Lordship how the Evidence Stands There is one Evidence since Christmas last L. Russell That 's not to the business of Sheppards House My Lord one Witness will not convict a Man of Treason Mr. At. Gen. If there be one Witness of one Act of Treason and another of a 2d another of a 3d that manifest the same Treason to depose or destroy the King that will be sufficient L. C. Just. My Lord That has been resolved the Two Witnesses the Statute requires are not to the same individual Act but to the same Treason if they be several Acts declaring the same Treason and one Witness to each of them they have been reckoned two Witnesses within the Statute of Edw. 6. Sir Geor. Jef. If My Lord will call his Witnesse L. Russel This is tacking of Two Treasons together here is one in November by one Witness and then you bring on another with a Discourse of my Lord Howard And he says the Discourse passed for Pleasure L. C. Just. If your Lordship do doubt whether the Fact proved against your Lordship be Treason or not within the Statute of E. 3. and you are contented that the Fact be taken as proved against your Lordship and so desire Counsel barely upon that that is matter of Law You shall have it granted L. Russel I am not knowing in the Law I think 't is not proved and if it was I think t is not Punishable by that Act. I desire Counsel may be admitted upon so Nice a Point My Life Lies at Stake here 's but one Witness that speaks of a Message Sir Geor. Jef. The Fact must be left to the Jury Therefore if my Lord Russel hath any Witnesses to call in Opposition to these matters let him L. C. Just. My Lord There can be no matter of Law but upon a Fact Admitted and Stated L. Russell My Lord I do not think it proved I hope you will be of Counsel for me t is very hard for me that my Counsel may not speak for me in a point of Law L. C. Just. My Lord To hear your Counsel concerning this Fact that we cannot do it was never done nor will be done If your Lordship doubts whether this Fact is Treason or not and desire your Counsel may be heard to that I will do it L. Russell I doubt in Law and do not see the Fact is proved upon me Mr. Sol. Gen. Will your Lordship please to call any Witnesses to the matter of Fact L. Russell T is very hard a Man must lose his Life upon Hearsay Col. Rumsy says he brought a Message which I will Swear I never heard nor know of He does not say he spake to me or I gave him any Answer Mr. Sheppard remembers no such thing he was gone to and again here is but one Witness and Seven Months agoe Mr. At Gen. My Lord If there be any thing that is Law you shall have it L. Russell My Lord Colonel Rumsey the other day before the King could not say that I heard it I was in the Room but I came in late they had been there a good while I did not ●tay above a quarter of an hour tasting Sherry with Mr. Sheppard L. C. Just. Read the Statute of 25 E. 3. c. 2. My Brothers desire to have it read Cl. of Cro. Whereas divers opinions have been before this time in what Case Treason shall be said and in what not The King at the Request of the Lords and of the Commons hath made a Declaration in the manner as hereafter followeth That is to say when a Man doth compass or imagine the Death of our Lord the King or of our Lady his Queen or of their eldest Son and Heir or if a Man do Uiolate the Kings Compagnion or the Kings Eldest Daughter unmarried or the Wife of the Kings eldest Son and Heir or if a man do levy War against our Lord the King in his Realm or be adherent to the Kings Enemies in his Realm giving to them Aid and Comfort in the Realm or elsewhere and thereof be proveably attainted of open Deed by People of their Condition And if a Man counterfeit the Kings Great or Privy Seal or his money and if a man bring false money into this Realm counterfeit to the money of England as the money called Lushburgh or other like to the said money of England Knowing the money to be false to Marchandise or make Payment in desceit of our said Lord the King and of his People and if a man Slea the Chancellor Treasurer or the Kings Iustices of the one Bench or the other Iustices in Eyre or Iustices of ●●ise and all other Iustices designed to hear and determin being in their places during their Offices And it is to be understood that in the Cases above rehearsed that ought to be Iudged Treason which extends to our Lord the King and his Royal Majesty L. C. Just. My Lord That which is urged against you by the Kings Counsel is this You are accused by the Indictment of compassing and designing the Kings Death and of endeavouring to Raise an Insurrection in Order to it That that they do say is that these Counsels that your Lordship hath taken are Evidences of your compassing the Kings Death and are Overt Acts Declaring the same and upon that it is they insist your Lordship to be Guilty within that Statute L. Russell It is in a Poynt of Law and I desire Counsel Mr. At. Gen. Admit your Consultations and we will hear them L. C. Just. I would set your Lordship right for probably you may not apprehend the Law in this Case If your Counsel be heard they must be heard to this That taking it that my Lord Russell has consulted in this manner for the Raising of Forces within this Kingdom and making an Insurrection within this Kingdom as Colonel Rumsey and my Lord Howard have Deposed whether then this be Treason we can hear your Counsel to nothing else L. Russell I do not know how to answer to it The point methinks must be quite otherwise that there should be Two Witnesses to one thing at the same time Mr. At. Gen. Your Lordship remembers in my Lord Staffords Case there was but one Witness to one Act in England and another to another in France L. Russell It was to the same point Mr. At. Gen. To the general point the lopping point Sir G. Jeff. There was not so much Evidence against him as there is against your Lordship L. C. Just. My Lord if your Lordship will say any thing or call any Witnesses to disprove what either of these Gentlemen have said we will hear your Lordship what they say But if you can't contradict them by

you If you believe the Prisoner at the Bar to have conspired the death of the King and in order to that to have had these Consults that these Witnesses speak of then you must find him Guilty of this Treason that is laid to his Charge Then the Court adjourned till four a Clock in the Afternoon when the Iury brought the said Lord Russel in Guilty of the said High Treason The Tryal of JOHN ROVSE Thursday July 12. John Rouse and William Blagg being set to the Bar and after holding up their Hands the following Indictment was read London London THe Jurors for our Soveraign Lord the King upon their Oaths present That John Rouse late of London Gent. and William Blagg late of London Gent. as false Traytors against the most Illustrious and Excellent Prince our Soveraign Lord Charles the Second by the Grace of God of England Scotland France and Ireland King their natural Lord not having the Fear of God in their hearts nor weighing the Duty of their Allegiance but being moved and seduced by the instigation of the Devil and the true Duty and natural Obedience which true and faithful Subjects of our Soveraign Lord the King towards him our said Lord the King do bear and of right ought to bear wholly withdrawing and with their whole strength intending the Peace and common Tranquillity of this Kingdom of England to disturb and War and Rebellion against our said Lord the King to move and stir up and the Government of our said Lord the King within this Kingdom of England to subvert and our said Lord the King from his Title Honour and Kingly name of the Imperial Crown of this his ●●●●dom of England to put down and deprive and our said Lord the King to Death and final Destruction to bring and put the second day of March in the year of the Reign of our Soveraign Lord Charles the Second King of England c. the five and thirtieth and divers other days and times as well before as after at the Parish of St. Michael Bassishaw in the Ward of Bassishaw London maliciously and traiterously with divers other Traytors to the Jurors aforesaid unknown they did Conspire Compass Imagine and Intend our said Lord the King their Supream Lord not onely of his Kingly State Title Power and Government of this his Kingdom of England to deprive and throw down but also our said Lord the King to kill and to death to bring and put and the ancient Government of this his Kingdom of England to change alter and wholly to subvert and a miserable Slaughter amongst the Subjects of our said Lord the King through his whole Kingdom of England to cause and procure and Insurrection and Rebellion against our said Lord the King to move and stir up within this Kingdom of England And to fulfil and perfect the said most horrible Treasons and traiterous Conspiracies Imaginations and Purposes aforesaid the said John Rouse and William Blagg then and there and divers other days and times as well before as after as false Traytors maliciously traiterously and advisedly they did assemble meet together and consult between themselves and with the said other Traytors to the Jurors aforesaid unknown and with them did treat of taking and seizing the Tower of London and of and for the executing and perfecting their Treasons and traiterous Compassings Imaginations and Purposes aforesaid And that they the said John Rouse and William Blagg as false Traytors maliciously traiterously and advisedly then and there and divers other days and times as well before as after they and either of them did undertake and to the said other Traytors did promise for themselves to be aiding and assisting in the Execution of the Treasons and traiterous Compassings Imaginations and Purposes aforesaid and in providing Arms and armed men to fulfil and perfect the said Treasons and traiterous Compassings Imaginations and Purposes aforesaid And the said most wicked Treasons and traiterous Compassings Imaginations and Purposes aforesaid to fulfil and bring to pass they the said John Rouse and William Blagg as false Traytors maliciously traiterously and advisedly then and there did procure and prepare Arms to wit Blunderbusses Carbines and Pistols against the Duty of their Allegiance against the Peace of our Soveraign Lord the King his Crown and Dignity and against the form of the Statutes in that case made and provided c. Cl. of Cr. What sayest thou John Rouse art thou guilty of this High-Treason whereof thou standest indicted or not guilty Rouse Not guilty Cl. of Cr. Culprit how wilt thou be tried Rouse By God and my Country Cl. of Cr. God send thee a good deliverance What sayest thou William Blagg art thou guilty of this High-Treason whereof thou standest indicted or not guilty Capt. Blagg Not guilty Cl. of Cr. Culprit how wilt thou be tryed Capt. Blagg By God and my Country Cl. of Cr. God send thee a good deliverance Friday July 13 in the afternoon the Court being met and Proclamation made Cl. of Cr. Set John Rouse and William Blagg to the Bar. You the Prisoners at the Bar these good men that you hear called are to pass between our Soveraign Lord the King upon tryal of your several lives and deaths if you will challenge them or any of them your time is as they come to the Book to be sworn before they are sworn Nicholas Charlton Capt. Blagg I hope I shall onely speak for my self L. C. J. Yes you shall be heard Rouse My Lord I have had no liberty so much as sending for my Wife Monday Morning they gave me notice of Tryal but I have had no advantage of that notice I presumed it is meant we should have the liberty of Subjects but though notice was then given yet I had not the liberty of sending for any body till Wednesday It was 8 or 9 of the Clock on Wednesday night that one came and told me I should have no liberty of Counsell unless I had it from the Court and yesterday morning I found that Captain Blage and I were joyned in one Indictment which alters the case with submission to the Court What time I have had for Tryal has been so short I have not been able to get my Witnesses ready I desire nothing but as an English man L. C. J. As an English-man you can demand no time to prepare for Tryal for those that will commit crimes they must be ready to answer for them and defend themselves 'T is Matter of Fact you are charged with you knew long agoe what you were to be Tryed for for you were taken up and charged with High Treason You might then reasonably consider what kind of Evidence would be against you if you be an innocent person you may defend your self without question But if you have done an ill thing the Law does not design to give you time to shelter your self under any subterfuge or make any excuse or to prepare any Witnesses to testify an