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A30606 The answer to Tom-Tell-Troth the practise of princes and the lamentations of the kirke / written by the Lord Baltismore, late secretary of state. Baltimore, George Calvert, Baron, 1580?-1632. 1642 (1642) Wing B611; ESTC R7851 33,266 35

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