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A54760 Dr. Oates's narrative of the Popish plot, vindicated in an answer to a scurrilous and treasonable libel, call'd, A vindication of the English Catholicks, from the pretended conspiracy against the life and government of His Sacred Majesty, &c. / by J.P., gent. Phillips, John, 1631-1706. 1680 (1680) Wing P2083; ESTC R21048 60,667 56

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were no such Letters therefore he could not read the Contents This is just like their silly pleading at Newgate In the Third Article he has found a nest of Lyes no less than Four at a time denying That Ashly Blondel and the Two Peters ' s sent Twelve Scholars into Spain Eight to Valladolid and Four to Madrid as appear'd by their several Patents who were obliged by the Iesuits to renounce their Allegiance to His Majesty of Great Britan in the hearing of the Deponent 1. Because the Students are never sent away by any but the Rector or Vice-Rector With the Vindicator's favour the Jesuits have no such Laws of the Medes and Persians but which the Rector or the Provincial may dispence with upon occasion Besides the Rector has his Consultores or Assistants whom he may employ to act for him 2. Never any Patent among Iesuits had more than one name There 's nobody says to the contrary If Twelve Scholars have Twelve Patents what need of more than one Name in a Patent 3. Because there is not one word of renunciation in the Oath of those Colledges Who said there is They might renounce their Allegiance to the King and yet not take the Colledge-Oath 4. He could not hear a thing done in a place where he never was but he never was at Madrid therefore But he was at Madrid in spite of your Teeth Ergo. Nor could the Dr. hear it done at Valladolid for the Oath is never tendered to the Novices till they have past a whole year in that place You mistake the point Sir the Dr. talks not of the Oath he speaks of the Renunciation without which their very admittance would have defil'd the Colledge He denies as being Two more Lyes That Dr. Armstrong brought Letters subscribed by Five Iesuits in which was expressed that the Iesuits in London intended to dispose of the King 1. Because those Letters were sign'd by more than the Rector For which he brings his former Attestation of Iohn an Okes and Iohn a Stiles What a strange thing this is He will not allow Five men to subscribe their own Letters 2. Because there never was any such thing contain'd in those Letter as they protest who wrote them As by their Attestations appears He denies that Suiman wrote that the King of England was poyson'd Upon what ground Why because neither Suiman nor any other person ever heard such news He denies that Strange Gray and Keines wrote in a Letter to Suiman that they were using all diligence to get the King dispatch'd 1. Because it is false that ever Strange writ any such Letter as appears by his own Attestation 2. Because it is false that the Dr. was ever at Madrid which they prove by Three Attestations of their own drawing He denies that at the same time at Madrid the Deponent ever saw a Letter from Strange Grey Keines Langworth Fenwick Ireland and Harcourt wherein they exprest their sorrow the business was not done through the faint-heartedness of their man William 1. Because he was never there 2. Because it was against the custom of Iesuits already repeated But this was upon an extraordinary occasion and besides they were then in a place where they were not tied to observe Customs 3. Because there never was any such Letter as by their own attestations appears I marry Sir here 's the Sparring Argument at last He denies That Pedro Hieronymo de Corduba Provincial of New-Castile sent a Letter by the Deponent to Strange wherein he promised Ten thousand pound for their pains if they could get the business dispatch'd 1. Because P. H. de Corduba was never Provincial of New-Castile 'T is not a straw matter whither he were or no. 2. Because he left Valladolid upon the 30th of October and not the Third of November The Vindicator was hard put to 't to cavil so strictly for a day 3. Here 's their old friend in a corner that never fails 'em because there was no such Letter as their own Knight o' the post avers But besides this there are Three improbabilities in the case That the Provincial of Castile should go about to allure the English Iesuits with such a reward who needed rather a Bridle than Spurs You are still upon mistakes the Money was not to reward the Jesuits Ten thousand pound was a Fleabite to what they expected but to shew there should be no want of Money should their Chapmen ask too dear 2. That he who could not dispose of any money out of his Province should promise them such a sum By your favour Sir but he might when it was money entrusted in his hands and left to his disposal upon such and such an accompt 3. That he should trust the Dr. with such a Letter whom he had newly cast out of the Colledge That very thing argues all you have said about the Doctors Expulsion to be a St. Omers Lye which exceed our English Lyes Ten times as much in bigness as one of your Onions surpasses ours Thus Gentlemen you have seen what this Nickapoop of scurrilous Vindicator has hitherto called Lyes and how he has proved them 'T was not so because it was not so 't was not so because it could not be so and it could not be so because they themselves say so Ergo. Now I would fain know of you good Mr. Vindicator whither if you and another as bad as your self should both steal a Horse and your friend escaping you should be taken arraign'd and the matter of fact prov'd I say I would fain know whether if you being asked what you had to say for your self should pretend the Presbyterians stole the Horse or if that would not serve you should protest you knew nothing of the Horses being stolen till you were Indicted and that your confederate that was with you should attest it under his hand that you did not steal the Horse Do you believe that these evasions should save you from being hang'd 'T is an experiment I assure you well worth your coming into England to make tryal of in regard that if you escaped upon those excuses it would very much conduce to strengthen the Arguments of your Vindication and therefore take notice I have made you a fair Invitation we have a Colledg ready furnished for your entertainment CHAP. IV. From the Ninth to the Tenth Article Containing what the Doctor Heard and Read at St. Omers THis is a long Chapter an Oglio dressed by the same Cook without any variety wherein as he proceeds according to his former method the Answers will be the more ready at hand It is averr'd by no meaner a person than Casaubon a man of great Learning and unspotted reputation that a Jesuit in France with his own mouth asserted to him That if Iesus Christ were again upon earth lyable to death as he was and any one should reveal to him as his Confessour that he had a design to kill him before he would reveal that Confession
at length For saith he Had this been produc'd at the beginning it might have been tollerable but to bring it where it stands was senceless If it were true at the beginning it is true where it is Truth is confin'd to no place and therefore we shall take no care to remove it if you have no better Reason Oh! but he has a Reason For that after the Deponent had produc'd the Dominicans and Carmelites dissenting from the Business he now says All Catholicks He does not say the Dominicans and Carmelites dissented he Swears that both pleaded Poverty but the Dominicans offer'd them their personal Assistance and Money The Carmelites promised to assist them with their Prayers to God and our Blessed Lady Hoping that if God would not hear their Prayers our Blessed Lady would So that Heaven's be Prais'd this Article as if it were the Lawrel Tree of the Narrative stands not so much as blasted by all his Thunder And then dato hoc uno absurdo Sequuntur all the Rest. To the next Article he says Blundel protests he knows nothing of the Business Article 72. Blundel shew'd the Deponent the Bull by which the two Arch-Bishopprioks 21 Bishoppricks two Abbey's and six Deaneries are disposed of Nor are there any Prebendaries or other places undisposed of To this he answers only with Periods Heaven's quo he setting him upon his Tayle and lifting up his two Paws like a Bear in Astonishment Such Benefices to be bestow'd without the Kings consent As if it were likely his Holiness would ask the King of England leave to dispose of the Popes Benefices All in one Bull That so carelesly sent so carelesly produc'd Not one Protestant to be continu'd No if it were to save his Soul All the promoted Persons ignorant of their Advancement who can swallow such Mountains of Incredibility Rub his nostrills with a little Spirit of Bezoar the man has been in a desperate Agony What a contraction there is upon the Vindicators Wind-Pipe on a suddain He will make you believe by and by that his Gullet is no wider then the passage from Purgatory to Heaven He can swallow the Incredibility that his Holiness should ask leave of the King to dispose of the Popes Benefices The incredibility that any one Protestant should be continued in his Living which I can hardly swallow m●self and yet he cannot swallow the probability of the Popes trusting the Bull with his own Creatures that one Bull should pass for all at a Conjuncture when too many Bulls would make too much Roaring nor the probability that the parties concern'd and promoted knew of it because he says they did not I warrant ye were it an Attestation G. or D. he would swallow it though it were as big as the Globe of the Earth But I am inform'd by several Physitians that the Jesuits Stomachs have a particular Antipathy against Narrative Pills shew a Jesuit a Narrative Pill and it puts him into a fit of the Quinsie immediately His Vvola will close and shut up like a Misers Buttery hatch upon the sight of one He cannot swallow a Narrative Pill though it were no bigger then a Tobacco seed And therefore no wonder these incredibilities seem so montainous to one that has drank some sort of Styptic water and purs'd up his Wind-Pipe as the Gentleman purs'd up his Mouth in the Ladies Chamber Art 52. That the Deponent saw a Pacquet from the Fathers met at Edenburgh to the Fathers here acquainting them that 8000 Papists were ready to rise to assist the disaffected Scots when required by the Scotch Iesuits there That one Westby was destroyed by a Servant of Lovel the Iesuit for endeavouring to detect the Rebellion c. To all this Vindicator cries Not one word True What are his Reasons 1. Because there never was any meeting of English Iesuits in Edenburgh 2. No English Iesuits in Scotland 3. Never Lovel 4. Nor any Servant of his were ●ver there 5. No correspondence of English Iesuits in Scotland 6. No knowledge of Affairs of that Kingdom but by the Gazetts He would make us believe that Scotland was one of the happiest Kingdoms in Europe as if the Air of that Country would no more admit of the Vermine of Popery then Ireland endure the Venome of Toads and Spiders But how does he come to know all this Nay that 's a secret Some body it may be suppos'd has told him and he tells you and his Ipse dixit you must take for Gospel However suppose they were Scotch Jesuites that met at Edenborough for the Article says nothing of English Jesuites what 's to be said then Why then he 'l Swear there never was a Scotch Jesuit upon the Face of the Earth So that the Vindicator is ready prepar'd for ye come at him which way ye will Now can any body believe this Vindicator cares what he says that will assert so positively that never any English Jesuits met at Edenborough since the Creation of the world That the Jesuites hold no correspondence with Scotland That they who correspond with China and the Indies should forbear to correspond with Scotland where there is such advantagious Brewing to the disturbance and molestation of England Art 75. Tho. White writ to Blundel that he was inform'd of some Discovery yet he should not desist the business in hand That he should thank Fogarthy for his Care of the business of 48 meaning the King and for his forwardness to assist those in Ireland for whose good success he would pray This he confutes by the strength of his Politicks For saith he had there bin so horrid a Plot and White had heard it was discovered he should have ordered the Conspirators to have desisted secur'd their Persons and made away their Papers 'T is very true but there are many Fool-hardy persons that are often washed to the Skin for ventring into the Shower believing 't will presently blow over The Conspirators design was so well laid and their Party so Strong thought nothing would have been heard much less believ'd against them And therefore none but such shallow Pates and of as little Sence as the Inventer of these Suppositions but will believe that White had all the reason in the world to command them to go on For it is not to be thought that Men of such High undertakings and that knew upon what Foundations they Trod were to be Bug-Beard out at the whispring of an uncertain Report Nay it behov'd them to go on with more vigour when they knew how easily the suddain Expedition of one single Assassination would have prevented the consequences of that Rumour Had the Deponent says the Vindicator said that White had desired their Prayers for the Preservation of himself his Province and all the Catholicks his Narrative might have been Believ'd To what purpose so much Praying for persons that had secur'd their persons and their papers But 't is much to the same Effect for had he gone the Vindicators