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A44754 Some sober inspections made into carriage and consults of the late Long-Parliament whereby occasion is taken to speak of parliaments in former times, and of Magna Charta, with some reflexes upon government in general.; Som sober inspections made into the cariage and consults of the late Long Parlement Howell, James, 1594?-1666. 1656 (1656) Wing H3117; ESTC R2660 73,993 193

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returned without the prisoner This being related to the House of Commons they would sit no longer without their Member and desiring a conference with the Lords Sir Thomas A●dly then Chancellour and the rest judged the contempt to be very great and referred 〈◊〉 punishment thereof to the House of Commons it selfe Concerning liberty or freedome of speech which is held another privilege of Parliament There is a speech of Sir Thom●● Moors upon record who being chosen Speaker 14. Henry the eight He first disabled himself and then petitioned the King in the behalf of the House that if i● communication and reasoning any ma●● should speak more largely then of duty be ought to do all such offences should be pardoned which was granted and entre● upon record In which petition it is observable that liberty or freedom of speech is not a power for men to speak wha● they will or please in Parliament It is ● priviledge onely not to be punished but pardoned for the offence of speaking more largely then in duty they ought to do which in a right construction must be understood of rash unadvised ignorant or negligent escapes and slips in speech not for willfull malicious much lesse for treasonable speeches And then the Kings pardon was desired to be upon record that it might be pleaded at Bar to all actions There is a speech upon record in Queen Elizabeths time wherein the Commons were warn'd not to meddle with the Queens Person the State or Church-Government Polyander I have heard of divers traverses that hapned in the reign of that popular and long lived Queen which trenched as much if not more upon the priviledges of Parliament and the liberties of the people then any that happen'd in the reign of the two last Kings Philanglus It is very true and I will give you some instances drawn from good authentick records 23. Elizabeth Mr. Paul Wentworth moved in the House for a publick fast and for a Sermon every morning at seven a clock before the House sate the House hereupon was divided 100 were against it and 150 for it and so an order passed accordingly The Queen being told hereof sent a message to the House by her Vice-chamberlain That her Highnesse had great admir●●tion of the rashnesse of the House in commit●ing such an apparent contempt of her expresse command as to put in execution such an innovation without her privity or pleasure fist known Thereupon Mr. Vice-chamberlain moved the House to make an humble submission to her Majes●y acknowledging the said offence and contempt and to crave remission for the same with●●full purpose to forbear the committing of the like hereafter So by the suffrage of the whole House Mr. Vice-chamberlain carryed their submission to the Queen accordingly 35 Elizabeth Mr. Peter Wentworth and Sir Henry Bromley delivered a Petition to the Lord Keeper desiring the Lords of the Upper House to be suppliants with them of the Lower House unto her Majesty for entayling the succession of the Crown whereof a Bill was ready drawn The Queen was highly displeased herewith and charged her Councel to call the parties before them so Sir Thomas Henage was sent to fetch them so they were first commanded to forbear going to the House and not to go out of their several lodgings afterward they were called before the Lord Tresurer Lord Buckhurst and Sir Thomas Henage Wentworth was committed to the Tower and Bromeley to the Fleet together with Mr. Stevens as also Mr. Welch Knight for Worcestershire The Queen sent a notable check to the House of Commons 28. of her raign for chosing and returning Knights of the Shire for Norfolk a thing impertinent for the House to deal withall and belonging only to the Office and charge of her Chancellor from whom the Writs issue and are return'd In one Parliament when Mr. Coke afterwards Sir Edward Coke was Speaker the Queen sent a Messenger or Sargeant at Arms into the House of Commons and took out Mr. Morris and committed him to Prison with divers others for some speeches spoken in the House Thereupon Mr. Wroth moved the House that they would be humble sutors to her Majesty that she would be pleased to enlarge those members of the House that were restrain'd which was done accordingly and answer was sent by her Privy Councel That her Majesty had committed them for causes best known to her self and to presse her Highuesse with this suit would but hinder the whole good they sought That the House must not call the Queen to an account for what shee doth of her Royal Authority That the causes for which they are restrain'd may be high and dangerous That her Majesty liketh no such questions neither doth it become the House to search into matters of that nature The Commons were told 39. Elizabeth that their priviledge was yea and no And that her Majesties pleasure was that if the Speaker perceived any idle heads which would not stick to hazard their own estates but meddle with reforming the Church and trans forming the Common-weal by exhibiting Bills to that purpose the Speaker should not receive them till they were viewed and considered by those who are sitter to consider of such things and can better judge of them Moreover the Queen rejected 48. Bills which had passed both Houses in that Parliament The House of Commons by their Speaker 39. Elizabeth complained of some Monopolies whereupon the Lord Keeper made answer in her Majesties name That her Highnesse hoped her dutiful and loving Subjects would not take away her Prerogative which is the chiefest flower in her Garland the principall and h●ad Pearl in her Crown and Diadem but that they will rather leave that to her own disposition Sergeant Heal said 43. Elizabeth publiquely in Parliament that he marvelled the House stood either at the granting of a subsidy or time of payment considering that all we have is her Majesties and she may lawfully at her pleasure take it from us in regard she had as much right to all our lands and goods as to any revenew of the Crown and he said he could prove it by precedents in the raign of Henry the third King John and King Steven This speech agrees with that which Sir Edward Coke hath in his Institutes where he saith positively That the first Kings of this Realm had all the Lands of England in Demesne and the great Mannors and Royalties they reserved to themselves and enfeoffed the Barons of the remnant for the common defence of the Kingdom There was a remarkable passage happen'd in the raign of Henry the fourth The House of Commons Petitioned the King that they might have advice and communication with certain Lords about matte●● of businesse in Parliament for the commo● good of the Kingdom which prayer as the record hath it Our Lord the King graciously granted but with this protestation That he did it not of duty nor of custom but of his special grace So our Lord the King
Some Sober INSPECTIONS Made into the CARRIAGE And CONSVLTS Of the Late Long-Parliament Whereby Occasion is taken to speak of PARLIAMENTS in former Times and of MAGNA CHARTA With some Reflexes upon Government in general Cupio ut rectè Capiar London Printed for Ric. Lownds at the White Lyon in St. Pauls Churchyard near the West-end 1656. To His HIGHNESSE The Lord Protector My Lord AMong the multitude of mighty Atchievements which your Highnesse hath performed so much to the astonishment of Mankind The Dissolving of the late Long Parliament may well deserve to bee rank'd in the numbe For thereby your Highnesse Hercules-like may be said to have quell'd a Monster with many heads such a Monster that was like to Gormandize and Devour the whole Nation as will appear in the ensuing Discourse which though small in Bulk yet the Subject matters is of the greatest Concernment otherwise I had not ventured on so high a Dedication for it treats of the power and practise of English Parliaments in former times with the first Rise of the House of Commons and of Magna Charta c. which will bee found to have had but hard births There was matter enough to have Compil'd a far greater Volumn but I have woon'd it upon a small Bottom in regard that besides my natural hatred to superfluities and circumlocutionss I would not bee so unmannerly as to hold your Highnesse too long who have suca world of high businesses perpetually in your thoughts One thing I humbly promise your Highnesse that the quotations here produc'd whereof there are many are all true and extracted out of Authentick Records but what consequences soever are drawn from them the Judgement is still reserv'd for your Highnesse Endernier ressort There is a memorable saying of Charles Martell in that mighty Revolution in France when hee introduc'd the second Race of Kings That in the pursuit of all his actions he used to say that He followed not the Ambition of his Heart as much as the Inspirations of his Soul and the designs of Providence This may be applied to your Highnesse in the Conduct of your great Affairs and admirable successes So craving pardon for this high presumption and the boldnesse of the Subject for which I humbly beg your protection I rest in the lowliest posture of obedience At your Highness command I. H. To the Knowing READER Touching The Method of this Discourse THere are various wayes for the conveyance of knowledge to the understanding and to distil it by degrees into the Cels of humane brain It may be done either by a down-right Narration and continued Discourse or by Allegories Emblemes and Parables Or by way of Dialogue Interlocutions and Conference The first is the Easiest and most Usual way The second is the most Ingenious and Difficult The last the most Familiar and Satisfactory When one doth not onely inform but remove and answer all objections and quaeries that may intervene all along in the pursuit of the matter It is the mode and method of this Treatise which discoursing of the affairs of England proceeds by way of Colloquy 'twixt Philanglus and Polyander The first a good Patriot and great lover of the English The other a person who had seen much of the world abroad and studied men as both their names do intimate Conveniunt Rebus Nomina saepe suis I. H. Some Inspections made into the Cariage and Consults of the late long PARLEMENT c. In a Colloquy 'twixt Philanglus and Polyander Gentle Sir Philanglus HOw glad am I to see you so well return'd to England after so long a separation having breath'd air under so many diffe●ing Climes convers'd with Nations of so many differing complexions and made so many hazardous voyages and itinerations both by land and Seas as I understand you have Polyander 'T is true there is a kind of hazzard that hovers over our heads wheresoever we pass in this transitory incertain world the Morning cannot presage what the Evening may produce some odd thing may happen 'twixt the cup and the lip but the danger of forrein travel or peregrination is nothing so great as 't is commonly apprehended one may travell all Europe with as much security and accommodation as any part of England one may goe from Calis to Constantinople as safely as from Bristol to Berwick one may passe from Vienna to Venice from Paris to Prague from Madrid to Magdenburgh as securely as from London to Lancaster or from Saint Davids head to Dover 'T is true that before Negotiation and Commerce made mankind more communic●ble it was an uncouth thing to travel or make removes far from home In this Island not an age since if one were to make a journey from Wales to London much more from London to France it was usual for him to make his last will but now the world growing still more populous and people more sociable by mutua traffique and knowledge of languages the case is altered In my whole ten years travel I thank my Creator I never rancounterd any danger or difficulty but I might have met with the like in England if one observes these three small Imperatiss audi cerne tace hear see and be silent he need no other passeport to travel the world But dear Sir now that I am return'd to breath English air again I hold it one of the best welcomes to find you so well after so long an absence and I embrace you with both my arms giving you a thousand thanks for the fair respects and litteral correspondence you kept with me while I wandered abroad for it was my greatest comfort Philanglus Sir you teach me what I should say to you in this point but truely you should have had a more frequent account of matters here but that of late years it hath been usual to intercept and break up letters which is a baser kind of burglary then to break into ones house or chamber for this may be a plundering onely of some outward pelf or baggage of fortune but he who breaks open one Letters which are the Ideas of the minde as is spoken elsewhere may be said to rifle the very brain and rob one of his most precious thoughts and secret'st possessions But Sir now that I have the happinesse to re-enjoy you what doe they say abroad of these late revolutions in England Polyander They say that the English are a sturdy terrible and stout people that the power and wealth of this Island was never discovered so much before both by Land and Sea that the true stroke of governing this Nation was never hit upon till now Politicians new and old have beaten their brains and shot at rovers in writing of divers sorts of Governments but the wisest of them concur in this opinion that there is no Government more resembling Heaven and more durable upon Earth or that hath any certain principles but Monarchy and such a Monarchy that hath an actual visible Military strength