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A90187 Severall papers of the treatie between His Excellencie Iames Marques of Ormond, Lord Lieutenant Generall of Ireland for the King, on the one part; and Sir Thomas Wharton, Sir Robert King, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir Robert Meredith, knights, and Richard Salwey Esquire, commissioners authorized by the two Houses of Parliament of England; on the other part. VVith the commissioners instructions concerning the Lord of Ormond; the instructions concerning the Protestants of Ireland, & compositions of delinquents: His Excellencies answer; and the Lord Lieutenants reply. With their reply to all his exceptions. And the Kings Maj. directions. Ireland. Lord Lieutenant (1641-1649 : Ormonde); Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688.; Wharton, Thomas, Sir.; England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); England and Wales. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing O458A; Thomason E378_4; ESTC R201374 32,080 45

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of_o two_o year_n profit_n as_o they_o be_v before_o the_o begin_n of_o these_o trouble_n they_o submit_v to_o all_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n darby-house_n octob._n 17._o 1646._o northumberland_n w._n p●erpoint_n w._n waller_n manchester_n denz_n hollis_n p._n stapleton_n p._n lisle_n w._n lewis_n i._o temple_n p._n wharton_n w._n armine_n ro._n wallop_n 17._o november_n 1647._o in_o your_o three_o paper_n of_o the_o 16._o of_o november_n be_v these_o word_n viz._n that_o for_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o martial_a list_n we_o have_v power_n by_o our_o intruction_n and_o ●o_o intend_v according_o to_o employ_v such_o of_o they_o as_o shall_v be_v find_v fit_a for_o the_o service_n a_o copy_n of_o which_o instruction_n we_o desire_v that_o we_o may_v the_o better_a judge_n how_o far_o the_o security_n and_o future_a subsistence_n of_o the_o say_a officer_n be_v thereby_o provide_v for_o ormond_n november_n 17._o 1646._o in_o answer_n to_o your_o lordship_n first_o paper_n of_o the_o 17._o of_o this_o month_n we_o herein_o deliver_v a_o copy_n of_o the_o instruction_n therein_o desire_v rob._n meredith_n tho._n wharton_n rob._n king_n io._n clotworthy_n r._n salwey_n you_o or_o any_o three_o of_o you_o be_v to_o employ_v such_o of_o the_o officer_n now_o under_o the_o lord_n of_o o●mond_n as_o you_o shall_v think_v fit_a and_o where_o you_o displace_v any_o you_o be_v to_o place_v other_o officer_n if_o they_o be_v necessary_a or_o otherwise_o to_o see_v their_o command_n sufficient_o discharge_v until_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n take_v further_o order_n sign_v as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o instruction_n copia_fw-la vera_fw-la exam_fw-la w._n rowe_n secr._n 17._o novemb_n 1646._o by_o our_o second_o paper_n of_o the_o 16._o of_o november_n we_o desire_v you_o for_o the_o bring_n of_o the_o present_a debate_n to_o a_o speedy_a thy_fw-mi conclusion_n to_o set_v down_o full_o and_o clear_o how_o far_o the_o proposition_n position_n which_o we_o send_v 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a_o positive_a answer_n to_o those_o paper_n ormond_n 17_o november_n 1646._o we_o can_v more_o large_o or_o positive_o express_v the_o power_n and_o extent_n of_o our_o instruction_n we_o have_v then_o already_o do_v but_o do_v again_o in_o pursuance_n of_o our_o instruction_n desire_v your_o lordship_n answer_n to_o the_o paper_n give_v in_o rob._n meredith_n tho._n wharton_n rob_v king_n jo_n clotworthy_n ri._n salwey_n 17_o november_n 1646._o we_o do_v not_o by_o our_o three_o paper_n o●_n the_o 17._o of_o november_n desire_v to_o know_v whether_o you_o can_v more_o large_o or_o positive_o express_v th●_n power_n &_o intent_n of_o your_o instruction_n then_o you_o have_v former_o do_v but_o we_o express_v that_o if_o you_o will_v positive_o declare_v you_o have_v no_o power_n or_o instruction_n to_o enlarge_v yourselves_o beyond_o what_o be_v express_v in_o your_o former_a paper_n we_o will_v then_o give_v a_o positive_a answer_n to_o those_o paper_n which_o by_o your_o answer_n thereunto_o you_o have_v neither_o affirm_v nor_o deny_v and_o therefore_o we_o forbear_v to_o give_v a_o positive_a answer_n to_o your_o say_a paper_n till_o we_o be_v satisfy_v in_o that_o particular_a ormond_n 18._o november_n 1646._o have_v take_v into_o consideration_n your_o lordship_n last_o paper_n of_o the_o 17._o of_o novemb_n we_o return_v you_o this_o answer_n that_z wea_z hold_v not_o fit_v positive_o to_o declare_v whether_o we_o have_v any_o power_n or_o instruction_n to_o enlarge_v ourselves_o beyond_o what_o be_v express_v in_o our_o former_a paper_n nor_o doewe_v conceive_v it_o ought_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o we_o for_o that_o to_o omit_v other_o reason_n we_o have_v frequent_o declare_v that_o we_o be_v according_a to_o our_o instruction_n to_o receive_v your_o lordship_n positive_a answer_n upon_o the_o paper_n already_o give_v in_o which_o we_o now_o again_o desire_v from_o your_o lordship_n rob._n meredith_n tho._n wharton_n rob._n king_n io._n clotworthy_n
rich._n salwey_n 18_o november_n 1646._o in_o the_o copy_n of_o some_o of_o the_o instruction_n deliver_v by_o you_o unto_o we_o it_o be_v thus_o express_v that_o if_o the_o lord_n of_o ormond_n do_v within_o 4_o day_n deliver_v up_o the_o sword_n render_v up_o all_o the_o garcison_n and_o other_o command_n to_o the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o parliament_n than_o you_o or_o any_o three_o of_o you_o be_v to_o give_v these_o ensue_a condition_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o your_o second_o paper_n of_o the_o 15._o of_o novemb_v 1646._o you_o express_v yourselves_o among_o other_o thing_n as_o follow_v viz._n we_o who_o be_v appoint_v commissioner_n by_o authority_n from_o the_o parl._n of_o england_n be_v to_o receive_v from_o your_o lordship_n if_o the_o treaty_n succeed_v the_o sword_n and_o garrison_n under_o your_o command_n for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o parl._n of_o england_n to_o which_o and_o your_o other_o paper_n before_o we_o can_v make_v answer_n we_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o 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