Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
england_n ireland_n john_n king_n 8,160 5 4.1142 3 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A67435 The controversial letters, or, The grand controversie concerning the pretended temporal authority of popes over the whole earth, and the true sovereign of kings within their own respective kingdoms : between two English gentlemen, the one of the Church of England, the other of the Church of Rome ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688. 1674 (1674) Wing W631; ESTC R219375 334,631 426

There are 11 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

britain_n or_o by_o some_o other_o fetch_v it_o will_v undoubted_o run_v the_o fate_n of_o its_o neighbour_n kingdom_n and_o it_o be_v not_o a_o pin_n matter_n for_o a_o title_n to_o that_o which_o must_v come_v in_o at_o last_o and_o when_o it_o come_v will_v bring_v title_n enough_o with_o it_o nature_n and_o necessity_n make_v perhaps_o as_o good_a title_n as_o law_n and_o i_o know_v not_o whether_o the_o law_n have_v any_o better_a than_o possession_n if_o the_o pope_n get_v once_o possession_n as_o when_o he_o have_v get_v england_n and_o ireland_n i_o see_v not_o what_o can_v keep_v he_o from_o it_o it_o will_v be_v to_o no_o more_o purpose_n to_o be_v solicitous_a for_o a_o title_n then_o for_o a_o man_n to_o look_v after_o a_o horse_n who_o be_v at_o his_o journey_n end_n for_o title_n serve_v but_o to_o obtain_v or_o hold_v what_o they_o pretend_v to_o which_o he_o that_o have_v already_o and_o so_o that_o it_o can_v be_v take_v away_o no_o long_o need_v they_o but_o if_o the_o worst_a come_v to_o the_o worst_a why_o may_v not_o the_o pope_n dispense_v with_o a_o title_n as_o well_o as_o other_o thing_n altogether_o as_o hard_o and_o not_o altogether_o so_o advantageous_a plenitude_n of_o power_n set_v once_o on_o the_o tenterhooks_n i_o believe_v will_v stretch_v as_o far_o as_o that_o and_o what_o can_v he_o do_v who_o can_v do_v all_o which_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o who_o be_v alone_o to_o determine_v what_o be_v necessary_a who_o shall_v hinder_v he_o from_o call_v the_o bunch_n a_o horn_n if_o he_o please_v but_o these_o be_v no_o jest_a matter_n 21._o baron_fw-fr ad_fw-la a_o 1135._o n._n 21._o 1173._o n._n 10._o 1159._o n._n 21._o england_n and_o ireland_n have_v both_o be_v challenge_v and_o that_o before_o king_n john_n be_v bear_v though_o his_o resignation_n be_v in_o truth_n the_o most_o specious_a matter_n which_o can_v be_v allege_v scotland_n to_o put_v it_o out_o of_o doubt_n what_o will_v become_v of_o it_o have_v be_v actual_o claim_v as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n so_o that_o our_o sovereign_n enjoy_v not_o one_o foot_n of_o land_n free_a from_o dispute_n 1301_o ep._n bonif_n 8._o ad_fw-la edw._n 1._o ap_fw-mi mat._n west_n ad_fw-la a_o 1301_o it_o be_v to_o much_o purpose_n to_o dispute_v of_o divine_a right_n when_o if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o the_o world_n we_o have_v as_o much_o to_o fear_v from_o human._n the_o worst_a divine_a right_n can_v do_v be_v to_o make_v we_o dependent_a and_o subject_a and_o this_o they_o say_v we_o be_v without_o relation_n to_o it_o and_o it_o be_v this_o we_o fear_v not_o care_v much_a how_o the_o mischief_n happen_v if_o it_o can_v be_v avoid_v it_o import_v not_o much_o whether_o i_o be_v a_o slave_n by_o the_o misfortune_n of_o war_n or_o birth_n if_o i_o must_v tug_v at_o the_o oar._n i_o tell_v you_o true_o think_v of_o these_o thing_n have_v put_v i_o into_o a_o very_a bad_a humour_n i_o distrust_v every_o thing_n and_o be_o not_o satisfy_v where_o learneder_n man_n than_o myself_o be_v i_o will_v be_v glad_a to_o have_v some_o better_a security_n than_o prescription_n 19_o pag._n 19_o for_o though_o our_o author_n say_v and_o i_o think_v it_o a_o sufficient_a plea_n i_o doubt_v if_o you_o be_v judge_n his_o authority_n will_v hardly_o keep_v we_o from_o be_v cast_v nay_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o will_v not_o for_o he_o confess_v the_o pope_n allow_v it_o not_o and_o his_o judgement_n will_v over-rule_v it_o at_o last_o beside_o though_o he_o slip_v over_o the_o business_n of_o hen._n 2._o the_o vatican_n register_n and_o petrus_n blesensis_n i_o think_v make_v too_o much_o noise_n to_o be_v slight_v what_o we_o think_v considerable_a may_v perhaps_o not_o prove_v so_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o test_n and_o however_o no_o caution_n against_o you_o be_v too_o much_o again_o why_o may_v not_o constantins_n donation_n one_o day_n rise_v up_o in_o judgement_n against_o we_o britain_n be_v at_o that_o time_n one_o of_o the_o western_a province_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n etc._n omnes_fw-la italiae_fw-la seu_fw-la occidentalium_fw-la regionum_fw-la provincias_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o if_o this_o deed_n be_v valid_a undoubted_o pass_v with_o the_o rest_n i_o know_v well_o enough_o there_o be_v among_o you_o who_o make_v bold_a with_o this_o evidence_n and_o refuse_v to_o admit_v it_o for_o authentic_a but_o there_o be_v too_o who_o stand_v stiff_o for_o it_o and_o among_o these_o several_a pope_n be_v there_o any_o likelihood_n it_o will_v bring_v grist_n to_o the_o mil_fw-mi i_o do_v not_o think_v the_o palea_fw-la set_v before_o it_o will_v hinder_v it_o from_o pass_v for_o good_a wheat_n 96._o cap._n constantinus_n dist_n 96._o in_o fine_a while_n human_n right_o not_o only_o may_v but_o actual_o be_v pretend_v at_o this_o day_n we_o have_v reason_n to_o look_v about_o we_o the_o louvain_n divine_v if_o the_o history_n of_o the_o irish_a remonstrance_n say_v true_a 117._o hist_o of_o the_o irish_a remonst_z p._n 117._o make_v it_o one_o of_o their_o four_o chief_a ground_n and_o the_o only_a ground_n of_o right_n for_o condemn_v that_o remonstrance_n and_o since_o they_o declare_v not_o in_o particular_a whence_o they_o derive_v the_o pretence_n of_o human_a right_n make_v it_o necessary_a we_o shall_v be_v secure_v against_o all_o you_o see_v where_o the_o shoe_n pinch_v make_v it_o easy_a if_o you_o can_v though_o when_o you_o have_v do_v your_o uttermost_a i_o fear_v it_o will_v pinch_v still_o for_o you_o be_v but_o a_o single_a man_n and_o what_o a_o single_a man_n can_v do_v be_v not_o considerable_a beside_o you_o conceal_v yourself_o conscious_a it_o seem_v of_o be_v disow_v by_o your_o fellow_n who_o if_o they_o be_v otherwise_o persuade_v what_o will_v your_o single_a honesty_n do_v we_o good_a a_o traitor_n or_o two_o in_o a_o nation_n can_v do_v no_o great_a harm_n and_o one_o or_o two_o honest_a man_n as_o little_a good_a as_o you_o carry_v matter_n you_o seem_v to_o confess_v the_o generality_n be_v not_o of_o your_o mind_n nay_o how_o do_v i_o know_v that_o so_o much_o as_o single_a you_o be_v as_o honest_a as_o you_o pretend_v and_o true_o mean_a as_o you_o say_v you_o may_v with_o the_o liberty_n allow_v in_o your_o church_n prevaricate_v for_o aught_o i_o know_v even_o though_o you_o shall_v renounce_v prevarication_n or_o you_o may_v according_a to_o your_o comfortable_a doctrine_n of_o extrinsic_a probability_n embrace_v to_o morrow_n what_o you_o reject_v to_o day_n you_o be_v questionless_a much_o behold_v to_o your_o church_n which_o with_o her_o infallible_a guidance_n have_v bring_v you_o to_o that_o pass_n that_o if_o there_o be_v a_o honest_a man_n among_o you_o he_o can_v make_v out_o that_o he_o be_v so_o but_o must_v thank_v the_o good_a nature_n and_o charity_n of_o his_o neighbour_n for_o what_o reputation_n he_o have_v i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o sorry_a for_o the_o severity_n which_o be_v fall_v on_o you_o but_o yet_o my_o pity_n do_v not_o so_o far_o blind_v my_o reason_n but_o that_o i_o see_v they_o can_v complain_v of_o be_v treat_v like_o knave_n who_o can_v produce_v any_o satisfactory_a evidence_n that_o they_o be_v otherwise_o and_o though_o they_o can_v be_v too_o few_o to_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o for_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o law_n look_v only_o on_o general_n and_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o every_o man_n in_o a_o nation_n shall_v have_v a_o particular_a law_n make_v for_o he_o pray_v excuse_v i_o if_o i_o press_v too_o hard_o and_o seem_v to_o add_v to_o your_o trouble_n which_o i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o desire_v to_o increase_v that_o i_o will_v ease_v it_o if_o i_o can_v for_o true_o notwithstanding_o what_o i_o have_v say_v i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o you_o be_v a_o very_a honest_a man_n and_o take_v it_o upon_o your_o word_n that_o there_o be_v more_o as_o honest_a as_o yourself_o and_o i_o declare_v free_o that_o i_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o 38._o those_o and_o if_o they_o will_v perform_v that_o common_a duty_n it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o there_o appear_v no_o more_o danger_n to_o threaten_v the_o estate_n from_o they_o than_o from_o other_o man_n those_o law_n which_o the_o iniquity_n of_o their_o forefather_n bring_v upon_o they_o by_o their_o conspiracy_n and_o treason_n may_v be_v suspend_v towards_o their_o innocent_a child_n until_o such_o time_n as_o their_o peaceable_a demeanour_n and_o good_a carriage_n shall_v make_v it_o appear_v just_a to_o be_v abolish_v animadvers_fw-la upon_o fanaticism_n fanatical_o impute_v by_o a_o person_n of_o honour_n p._n 261._o these_o thing_n i_o yield_v to_o be_v reasonable_a 1._o that_o where_o there_o be_v a_o real_a
which_o often_o consideration_n as_o it_o happen_v in_o other_o case_n diminish_v nothing_o of_o the_o surprise_n the_o more_o i_o consider_v the_o more_o i_o wonder_v and_o as_o wonder_a people_n do_v gaze_v and_o stare_v and_o hardly_o know_v what_o to_o say_v i_o have_v a_o great_a mind_n blunt_o to_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o i_o will_v a_o incredible_a story_n relate_v without_o proof_n nothing_o that_o ever_o i_o hear_v not_o the_o enchantment_n of_o o_o brazile_n sound_v more_o incredible_o but_o m._n paris_n and_o the_o rest_n who_o record_v it_o have_v never_o be_v tax_v of_o feign_v and_o baronius_n say_v he_o find_v it_o in_o the_o vatican_n it_o be_v not_o for_o i_o to_o oppose_v my_o persuasion_n to_o their_o credit_n though_o all_o their_o credit_n can_v hinder_v it_o from_o sound_v still_o incredible_o there_o be_v many_o island_n near_o rome_n cyprus_n and_o candia_n sicily_n sardignia_n and_o the_o rest_n if_o the_o pope_n have_v a_o claim_n as_o i_o think_v he_o have_v to_o some_o of_o these_o sure_o it_o be_v not_o pure_o because_o they_o be_v island_n for_o to_o some_o i_o do_v not_o know_v that_o he_o ever_o pretend_a the_o coast_n of_o america_n have_v many_o very_a considerable_a hispaniola_n cuba_n and_o our_o jamaica_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o rest_n and_o near_o at_o hand_n the_o canary_n as_o little_a as_o they_o be_v be_v yet_o worth_a have_v it_o be_v as_o incredible_a a_o thing_n as_o any_o can_v be_v that_o ireland_n alone_o shall_v be_v claim_v by_o a_o pretence_n common_a to_o innumerable_a other_o there_o be_v no_o continent_n which_o have_v not_o many_o and_o no_o claim_n make_v to_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n england_n at_o least_o britain_n be_v a_o island_n too_o how_o come_v it_o to_o escape_v and_o all_o this_o bustle_v make_v with_o king_n john_n to_o gain_v a_o litigious_a and_o unmaintainable_a pretence_n to_o what_o be_v clear_o the_o pope_n before_o again_o why_o have_v this_o pretence_n never_o be_v set_v a_o foot_n before_o nor_o since_o in_o no_o case_n by_o no_o body_n be_v it_o not_o for_o this_o bull_n it_o can_v not_o be_v know_v there_o ever_o be_v such_o a_o conceit_n in_o the_o world_n and_o notwithstanding_o the_o bull_n it_o never_o enter_v for_o aught_o i_o can_v learn_v 96._o eccles_n e_o b._n apost_n petri_n &_o pauli_n pro_fw-la continuatione_fw-la luminariorum_fw-la p●ssessionum_fw-la praed●a_fw-la contulimus●_n tam_fw-la in_o oriente_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o occidente_fw-la vel_fw-la diversis_fw-la insulis_fw-la etc._n etc._n privileg_n constan_n do_v 96._o into_o the_o head_n of_o any_o other_o man_n but_o whence_o shall_v this_o subjection_n of_o island_n come_v from_o their_o receive_a christianity_n if_o this_o be_v so_o i_o perceive_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o island_n and_o continent_n that_o christianity_n shall_v not_o work_v the_o same_o effect_n in_o both_o for_o certain_o what_o christianity_n do_v it_o do_v every_o where_n but_o that_o christianity_n have_v no_o such_o effect_n that_o non_fw-la eripit_fw-la mortalia_fw-la qui_fw-la regna_fw-la that_fw-mi coelestia_fw-la be_v know_v and_o confess_v and_o have_v be_v discourse_v enough_o former_o if_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v once_o admit_v of_o island_n such_o another_o bull_n may_v turn_v the_o whole_a world_n into_o one_o great_a island_n and_o all_o be_v the_o pope_n without_o more_o ado_n or_o may_v the_o famous_a donation_n of_o constantin_n because_o it_o have_v the_o word_n island_n ground_n this_o pretence_n the_o word_n indeed_o be_v use_v once_o but_o nothing_o more_o be_v say_v of_o they_o than_o that_o some_o revenue_n be_v grant_v out_o of_o some_o of_o they_o as_o well_o as_o other_o place_n towards_o maintain_v light_n at_o rome_n beside_o the_o donation_n itself_o signify_v nothing_o and_o if_o it_o do_v can_v be_v stretch_v to_o ireland_n which_o never_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o constantin_n to_o dispose_v of_o a_o claim_n to_o all_o christian_a island_n can_v never_o have_v its_o origin_n from_o constantin_n who_o be_v not_o possess_v it_o of_o nor_o so_o much_o as_o acquaint_v with_o the_o hundred_o part_n of_o they_o and_o yet_o before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n we_o hope_v the_o sun_n of_o justice_n will_v shine_v upon_o they_o all_o true_o i_o be_o utter_o at_o a_o loss_n and_o which_o way_n soever_o i_o turn_v i_o can_v make_v nothing_o of_o it_o unless_o the_o right_n of_o which_o this_o bull_n speak_v be_v understand_v of_o a_o spiritual_a right_n such_o a_o one_o the_o pope_n may_v claim_v and_o that_o in_o virtue_n of_o their_o receive_a christianity_n and_o if_o he_o speak_v only_o of_o island_n i_o will_v think_v the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o question_n be_v only_o of_o ireland_n it_o be_v not_o to_o his_o purpose_n to_o speak_v of_o continent_n so_o that_o i_o will_v understand_v the_o bull_n in_o this_o manner_n you_o desire_v my_o favour_n and_o counsel_n in_o your_o design_n upon_o ireland_n which_o you_o mean_v to_o undertake_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o country_n in_o general_n and_o the_o church_n in_o particular_a island_n belong_v to_o my_o care_n as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n i_o be_o glad_a all_o the_o good_a be_v do_v there_o which_o can_v and_o so_o approve_v your_o design_n and_o wish_v you_o to_o go_v on_o i_o know_v not_o whether_o i_o shall_v not_o pass_v for_o too_o bold_a a_o interpreter_n but_o i_o will_v hope_v at_o least_o that_o this_o be_v the_o sense_n if_o it_o be_v not_o i_o shall_v be_v behold_v to_o he_o who_o can_v instruct_v i_o what_o be_v but_o be_v it_o what_o it_o will_v i_o be_o sure_a a_o single_a line_n insert_v in_o a_o old_a writing_n no_o body_n know_v why_o or_o upon_o what_o ground_n and_o never_o insist_v on_o before_o nor_o since_o no_o not_o by_o the_o most_o partial_a abetter_n of_o the_o pope_n prerogative_n be_v a_o sorry_a evidence_n by_o which_o to_o claim_v a_o kingdom_n the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v hold_v that_o country_n above_o 500_o year_n and_o all_o that_o time_n be_v acknowledge_v absolute_a lord_n of_o it_o by_o all_o the_o world_n and_o pope_n as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n no_o homage_n no_o tribute_n no_o investiture_n no_o sign_n of_o subjection_n to_o the_o pope_n have_v all_o this_o while_n appear_v save_v in_o the_o resignation_n of_o king_n john_n nothing_o perform_v on_o our_o side_n nothing_o so_o much_o as_o demand_v on_o the_o other_o the_o world_n will_v run_v into_o a_o fine_a confusion_n if_o such_o a_o title_n shall_v be_v question_v because_o some_o word_n be_v find_v in_o a_o writing_n 500_o year_n ago_o which_o no_o body_n can_v understand_v pope_n have_v not_o be_v careless_a in_o their_o right_n england_n in_o some_o of_o the_o intermediate_v time_n have_v be_v even_o scrupulous_o affect_v to_o they_o and_o a_o great_a deal_n more_o ready_a to_o add_v to_o than_o detract_v from_o their_o due_n it_o be_v not_o possible_o but_o if_o this_o title_n have_v be_v any_o thing_n worth_n we_o shall_v have_v hear_v of_o it_o at_o some_o time_n or_o other_o elsewhere_o than_o in_o the_o bull._n at_o least_o in_o the_o transaction_n with_o king_n john_n it_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v appear_v that_o king_n be_v not_o in_o term_n to_o refuse_v any_o thing_n the_o pope_n shall_v demand_v have_v he_o know_v of_o any_o right_n to_o ireland_n it_o have_v be_v but_o say_v so_o for_o it_o be_v upon_o the_o matter_n ask_v and_o have_v any_o pretence_n in_o that_o conjuncture_n will_v have_v serve_v turn_n and_o this_o bull_n be_v not_o then_o so_o old_a that_o it_o can_v be_v wear_v out_o of_o memory_n but_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o england_n and_o ireland_n be_v both_o on_o the_o same_o term_n in_o the_o grant_n of_o king_n john_n and_o no_o right_n pretend_v to_o either_o but_o in_o virtue_n of_o that_o grant_n neither_o indeed_o can_v such_o a_o pretence_n consist_v with_o the_o word_n of_o it_o instead_o of_o offerimus_fw-la &_o libere_fw-la concedimus_fw-la it_o must_v have_v be_v say_v we_o restore_v or_o acknowledge_v or_o something_o equivalent_a by_o which_o there_o may_v have_v appear_v not_o creation_n of_o a_o new_a right_n but_o recognition_n of_o a_o old_a for_o that_o can_v be_v grant_v which_o be_v the_o grantee_n before_o the_o grant_v nor_o do_v a_o supreme_a lord_n receive_v a_o fee_n from_o a_o vassal_n by_o way_n of_o gift_n but_o oblige_v the_o vassal_n to_o acknowledge_v by_o homage_n and_o customary_a duty_n that_o it_o be_v so_o or_o if_o disuse_n have_v withhold_v his_o duty_n and_o weaken_v his_o title_n to_o restore_v thing_n again_o to_o their_o old_a condition_n this_o instead_o of_o grant_v king_n john_n shall_v and_o the_o pope_n will_v have_v make_v he_o have_v do_v have_v there_o be_v any_o knowledge_n of_o a_o
violent_a but_o have_v to_o do_v with_o a_o prince_n both_o resolute_a and_o prudent_a he_o find_v but_o bad_a success_n the_o pope_n persuade_v the_o king_n to_o a_o expedition_n into_o the_o holy_a land_n to_o promote_v which_o business_n he_o exact_v the_o tithe_n of_o church_n live_n in_o france_n and_o reserve_v the_o collation_n of_o all_o benefice_n there_o to_o himself_o the_o king_n excuse_v the_o one_o and_o plain_o deny_v the_o other_o the_o hot_a pope_n send_v the_o bishop_n of_o apamea_n to_o threaten_v he_o with_o censure_n and_o deposition_n unless_o he_o yield_v to_o he_o the_o king_n call_v the_o state_n and_o upon_o consultation_n with_o they_o resolve_v the_o legate_n deserve_v to_o be_v imprison_v but_o for_o reverence_n to_o the_o see_v apostolic_a banish_v he_o and_o for_o his_o threat_n contemn_v they_o the_o legate_n not_o content_a to_o escape_v scotfree_a fall_v a_o new_a to_o threat_n which_o the_o king_n resent_v commit_v he_o to_o custody_n to_o the_o metropolitan_a the_o pope_n complain_v of_o the_o breach_n of_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n and_o command_v his_o legate_n shall_v be_v immediate_o return_v these_o letter_n be_v read_v in_o a_o assembly_n of_o the_o state_n the_o count_n of_o arras_n as_o hot_a every_o jot_n as_o the_o pope_n throw_v they_o into_o the_o fire_n this_o put_v the_o pope_n quite_o out_o of_o patience_n wherefore_o he_o cites_n both_o king_n and_o bishop_n to_o rome_n where_o he_o have_v appoint_v a_o synod_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n declare_v the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n for_o contumacy_n felony_n and_o violate_v the_o law_n of_o nation_n devolve_v to_o the_o apostolic_a see_v write_v thus_o peremptory_o to_o the_o king_n we_o will_v have_v you_o to_o know_v that_o you_o be_v subject_a to_o we_o both_o in_o spiritual_n and_o temporal_n and_o who_o think_v otherwise_o we_o repute_v heretic_n the_o king_n upon_o the_o receipt_n of_o these_o letter_n call_v the_o state_n again_o and_o by_o their_o advice_n frame_v a_o answer_v every_o jot_n as_o smart_v and_o something_o more_o homely_a we_o will_v have_v your_o foolishness_n know_v we_o be_v subject_a to_o none_o in_o temporal_n and_o who_o think_v otherwise_o we_o take_v for_o mad_a man_n and_o withal_o appeal_v to_o a_o future_a general_n council_n and_o object_n several_a crime_n to_o the_o pope_n to_o be_v make_v good_a when_o the_o council_n shall_v sit_v and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n forbid_v all_o intercourse_n with_o rome_n this_o answer_n be_v bring_v to_o rome_n by_o three_o bishop_n depute_v for_o that_o purpose_n the_o pope_n begin_v to_o be_v startle_v and_o at_o last_o confess_v that_o to_o usurp_v the_o king_n jurisdiction_n belong_v not_o to_o he_o nevertheless_o that_o in_o respect_n of_o sin_n the_o king_n can_v not_o deny_v but_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o pope_n this_o put_v they_o to_o examine_v how_o far_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n he_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o and_o one_o of_o the_o cardinal_n in_o a_o consistory_n in_o which_o the_o french_a ambassador_n be_v present_a resolve_v the_o case_n in_o this_o manner_n that_o supreme_a dominion_n belong_v proper_o to_o the_o pope_n but_o the_o administration_n to_o king_n and_o therefore_o all_o christian_a king_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o pope_n even_o in_o temporal_n in_o regard_n of_o his_o supreme_a dominion_n but_o this_o satisfy_v not_o the_o ambassador_n at_o rome_n and_o the_o state_n in_o france_n resume_v the_o debate_n declare_v positive_o the_o king_n in_o temporal_n be_v subject_a to_o god_n alone_o and_o owe_v his_o crown_n and_o power_n only_o to_o he_o nevertheless_o this_o subjection_n on_o the_o account_n of_o sin_n seem_v to_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o distinction_n betwixt_o direct_a and_o indirect_a power_n though_o i_o conceive_v it_o borrow_v from_o innocent_a the_o ivth_o some_o time_n before_o upon_o occasion_n of_o a_o contest_v betwixt_o john_n king_n of_o england_n and_o philip_n augustus_n of_o france_n who_o prosecute_n the_o king_n of_o england_n for_o default_n of_o homage_n for_o some_o dukedom_n in_o france_n etc._n etc._n king_n john_n appeal_v to_o the_o pope_n philip_n maintain_v that_o be_v a_o temporal_a business_n he_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o it_o the_o pope_n be_v willing_a to_o favour_v the_o english_a and_o therefore_o assume_v cognisance_n of_o the_o cause_n upon_o pretence_n that_o there_o be_v a_o oath_n in_o the_o case_n the_o violation_n of_o which_o be_v sin_n belong_v proper_o to_o his_o tribunal_n and_o this_o resolution_n have_v be_v put_v into_o a_o decree_n and_o that_o decree_n into_o the_o canon-law_n seem_v the_o principal_a foundation_n of_o indirect_a power_n i_o must_v confess_v i_o do_v not_o well_o understand_v how_o either_o this_o canon_n which_o be_v in_o the_o decretal_n c._n novit_n ille_fw-la de_fw-fr judiciis_fw-la or_o the_o other_o c._n per_fw-la venerabilem_fw-la qui_fw-la silij_fw-la sint_fw-la legitimi_fw-la which_o be_v the_o two_o usual_o cite_v both_o of_o innocent_a iii_o make_v to_o the_o purpose_n the_o former_a be_v make_v upon_o the_o occasion_n now_o mention_v and_o in_o it_o the_o pope_n speak_v thus_o we_o intend_v not_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o fee_n whereof_o the_o cognisance_n belong_v to_o he_o the_o king_n but_z to_o decree_v of_o the_o sin_n whereof_o the_o censure_n without_o doubt_n pertain_v to_o we_o which_o we_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o exercise_v on_o every_o one_o none_o of_o sound_a judgement_n be_v ignorant_a that_o it_o belong_v to_o our_o office_n to_o correct_v every_o christian_n for_o any_o mortal_a sin_n and_o if_o he_o despise_v correction_n to_o constrain_v he_o by_o ecclesiastical_a punishment_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o pope_n say_v correct_a the_o gloss_n add_v indirect_o which_o single_a word_n and_o that_o not_o explicate_v be_v the_o main_a authority_n for_o the_o distinction_n of_o direct_a and_o indirect_a power_n now_o in_o question_n the_o other_o canon_n per_fw-la venerabilem_fw-la be_v make_v upon_o this_o occasion_n philip_n augustus_n of_o france_n have_v put_v away_o his_o wife_n and_o take_v as_o i_o remember_v the_o countess_n of_o anjou_n and_o have_v child_n by_o she_o these_o child_n at_o his_o request_n the_o pope_n legitimate_v while_o the_o suit_n yet_o depend_v of_o the_o validity_n of_o his_o former_a marriage_n for_o the_o king_n allege_v it_o be_v invalid_a but_o as_o the_o example_n of_o king_n be_v apt_a to_o be_v follow_v some_o body_n leave_v his_o wife_n too_o and_o have_v child_n by_o another_o woman_n and_o then_o solicit_v the_o pope_n to_o legitimate_a they_o as_o he_o have_v do_v the_o king_n the_o pope_n refuse_v to_o yield_v his_o request_n but_o withal_o own_v a_o power_n to_o have_v grant_v it_o if_o he_o have_v find_v it_o reasonable_a and_o prove_v it_o by_o several_a argument_n and_o among_o other_o passage_n have_v these_o word_n we_o exercise_v temporal_a jurisdiction_n not_o only_o in_o the_o patrimony_n of_o the_o church_n where_o we_o have_v full_a power_n in_o temporal_n but_o in_o other_o country_n also_o casual_o upon_o inspection_n of_o certain_a cause_n these_o certain_a cause_n the_o gloss_n interpret_v to_o be_v when_o he_o be_v require_v now_o both_o these_o case_n seem_v to_o i_o far_o enough_o from_o the_o infer_v the_o depose_v power_n which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o in_o question_n but_o legitimation_n in_o the_o one_o and_o cognisance_n of_o a_o temporal_a business_n in_o the_o other_o and_o though_o the_o pope_n assume_v both_o yet_o he_o be_v very_o solicitous_a to_o prove_v they_o be_v within_o his_o sphere_n as_o both_o may_v be_v and_o yet_o nothing_o follow_v in_o behalf_n of_o his_o indirect_a dispose_n for_o he_o may_v legitimate_a child_n in_o order_n to_o spiritual_a capacity_n and_o leave_v they_o in_o the_o same_o condition_n in_o which_o they_o be_v before_o as_o to_o inheritance_n and_o other_o temporal_a concern_v again_o he_o may_v judge_v of_o sin_n and_o punish_v it_o in_o his_o own_o court_n with_o spiritual_a punishment_n and_o let_v temporal_a punishment_n alone_o to_o who_o they_o belong_v the_o temporal_a magistrate_n and_o since_o he_o express_o limit_n himself_o to_o ecclesiastical_a punishment_n methinks_v it_o be_v to_o strain_v logic_n a_o little_a to_o far_o to_o infer_v out_o of_o they_o a_o right_a to_o punish_v by_o deposition_n however_o in_o my_o opinion_n this_o difference_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o explicate_v this_o power_n sometime_o casualiter_fw-la sometime_o indirecte_v sometime_o ratione_fw-la peccati_fw-la which_o differ_v sufficient_o though_o they_o cite_v the_o authority_n indifferent_o as_o if_o they_o be_v all_o one_o be_v a_o sign_n they_o be_v at_o first_o not_o very_o clear_a in_o this_o business_n in_o explicate_v which_o they_o hit_v it_o no_o better_o notwithstanding_o the_o indirect_a power_n have_v at_o last_o get_v the_o vogue_n and_o most_o
election_n at_o least_o till_o his_o brother_n consent_v as_o he_o soon_o do_v the_o same_o title_n which_o k._n stephen_n and_o after_o he_o k._n john_n have_v to_o the_o crown_n i_o shall_v think_v their_o example_n a_o very_a good_a reason_n that_o the_o proceed_n of_o those_o time_n be_v not_o to_o be_v draw_v into_o consequence_n for_o if_o they_o may_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n perhaps_o be_v at_o least_o have_v be_v elective_a which_o i_o suppose_v no_o englishman_n will_v admit_v if_o they_o may_v not_o i_o know_v not_o to_o what_o purpose_n they_o be_v allege_v for_o these_o reason_n i_o be_o persuade_v nothing_o can_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o first_o norman_n prince_n to_o justify_v the_o resignation_n of_o king_n john_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v bind_v to_o our_o time_n that_o it_o never_o have_v any_o validity_n at_o all_o but_o not_o to_o leave_v the_o matter_n disputable_a betwixt_o my_o no_o and_o the_o yea_o of_o who_o will_v maintain_v the_o contrary_a i_o will_v fair_o put_v it_o to_o judgement_n and_o say_v whatever_o be_v do_v and_o by_o whatever_o right_n about_o the_o time_n of_o the_o conquest_n that_o k._n john_n in_o particular_a can_v not_o valid_o do_v what_o he_o do_v and_o that_o this_o have_v already_o be_v decide_v and_o in_o such_o manner_n that_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o firm_o settle_v in_o the_o world_n which_o may_v not_o admit_v of_o question_n as_o well_o as_o this_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o ed._n iii_o the_o pope_n demand_v the_o long_a unpaid_a one_o thousand_o mark_n grant_v by_o k._n john_n and_o threaten_v by_o legal_a process_n to_o recover_v this_o rent_n a_o parliament_n be_v call_v chief_o for_o this_o business_n and_o it_o be_v unanimous_o resolve_v 3._o rot._n parl._n 40_o ed._n 3._o that_o neither_o k._n john_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v bring_v himself_o his_o kingdom_n or_o people_n into_o such_o subjection_n without_o their_o consent_n and_o against_o his_o coronation_n oath_n and_o that_o in_o case_n the_o pope_n shall_v by_o process_n or_o otherwise_o attempt_v to_o constrain_v the_o king_n or_o his_o subject_n to_o perform_v the_o premise_n they_o will_v become_v party_n and_o resist_v he_o with_o all_o their_o power_n this_o be_v plain_a and_o peremptory_a and_o direct_o to_o the_o point_n i_o can_v but_o muse_v to_o observe_v they_o speak_v doubt_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n soul_n supplication_n of_o soul_n and_o the_o more_o because_o sr._n tho._n more_o very_o positive_o deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v in_o his_o or_o any_o time_n produce_v such_o a_o evidence_n when_o i_o consider_v he_o be_v a_o learned_a man_n and_o no_o enemy_n to_o the_o pope_n have_v great_a mean_n of_o be_v well_o acquaint_v with_o record_n and_o passage_n of_o former_a time_n unknown_a to_o other_o and_o speak_v as_o if_o he_o have_v good_a ground_n for_o what_o he_o say_v i_o hardly_o know_v what_o to_o think_v of_o it_o i_o wish_v he_o have_v inform_v we_o what_o his_o ground_n be_v peradventure_o there_o be_v more_o to_o be_v say_v than_o we_o be_v aware_a of_o but_o since_o he_o have_v not_o and_o the_o parliament_n do_v not_o direct_o deny_v the_o fact_n i_o for_o my_o part_n must_v be_v content_v to_o take_v thing_n at_o the_o worst_a and_o not_o deny_v what_o i_o can_v disprove_v i_o have_v this_o for_o my_o comfort_n that_o if_o the_o fact_n be_v true_a it_o be_v in_o sr._n tho._n more_o be_v word_n right_o naught_o worth_a and_o the_o authority_n of_o parliament_n to_o bear_v i_o out_o by_o the_o way_n our_o author_n in_o allege_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n at_o that_o time_n the_o only_a representative_a of_o the_o kingdom_n speak_v against_o a_o solemn_a declaration_n of_o parliament_n and_o this_o undeniable_a proof_n may_v be_v join_v to_o what_o i_o produce_v before_o to_o make_v good_a my_o denial_n of_o their_o consent_n however_o the_o question_n be_v positive_o decide_v and_o by_o a_o authority_n irrefragable_a to_o englishman_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v suspect_v of_o partiality_n in_o our_o own_o case_n let_v we_o put_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o foreigner_n when_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o this_o king_n and_o the_o baron_n become_v irreconcilable_a they_o seek_v protection_n from_o france_n the_o pope_n send_v a_o legate_n to_o dissuade_v the_o french_a king_n and_o his_o son_n from_o meddle_v with_o a_o kingdom_n the_o dominion_n whereof_o belong_v now_o to_o the_o church_n the_o word_n be_v hardly_o out_o of_o the_o legate_n mouth_n when_o the_o king_n of_o france_n reply_v sudden_o 1216._o m._n paris_n add_v a_o 1216._o that_o england_n never_o have_v be_v nor_o then_o be_v nor_o ever_o shall_v be_v the_o patrimony_n of_o peter_n and_o this_o beside_o what_o he_o else_o allege_v because_o no_o king_n can_v give_v away_o his_o kingdom_n without_o consent_n of_o his_o baron_n a_o error_n which_o if_o the_o pope_n will_v maintain_v he_o will_v give_v a_o most_o pernicious_a example_n to_o all_o kingdom_n the_o nobility_n present_a with_o great_a heat_n justify_v this_o speech_n of_o their_o king_n and_o declare_v they_o will_v stand_v for_o that_o point_n to_o death_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o king_n to_o transfer_v his_o kingdom_n or_o make_v it_o tributary_n at_o pleasure_n you_o see_v i_o speak_v not_o altogether_o out_o of_o my_o own_o head_n when_o i_o refuse_v to_o yield_v a_o arbitrary_a right_n of_o dispose_v kingdom_n even_o to_o conqueror_n and_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o want_v who_o will_v take_v my_o part_n but_o to_o let_v that_o pass_v it_o can_v be_v attribute_v to_o the_o partiality_n of_o our_o either_o country_n or_o time_n that_o we_o hold_v this_o deed_n of_o k._n john_n null_a when_o it_o be_v condemn_v for_o such_o by_o those_o who_o be_v contemporary_n to_o it_o and_o as_o much_o abroad_o as_o at_o home_n who_o desire_v more_o security_n be_v in_o my_o opinion_n a_o very_a scrupulous_a man_n notwithstanding_o let_v we_o put_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o very_a contriver_n of_o the_o deed._n i_o be_o much_o mistake_v if_o themselves_o have_v not_o the_o same_o sentiment_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n if_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v well_o enough_o that_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o validity_n of_o the_o deed_n why_o do_v they_o insert_v that_o clause_n communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la baronum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la a_o thing_n of_o this_o consequence_n undoubted_o be_v not_o careless_o huddle_v up_o great_a deliberation_n be_v without_o question_n use_v and_o they_o will_v never_o have_v put_v in_o what_o they_o themselves_o and_o every_o body_n else_o know_v be_v false_a but_o that_o they_o be_v sensible_a all_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n without_o it_o so_o that_o in_o the_o hard_a choice_n of_o frame_v a_o draught_n either_o without_o truth_n or_o without_o validity_n they_o have_v a_o eye_n to_o the_o latter_a and_o let_v the_o first_o shift_n as_o it_o can_v the_o truth_n be_v they_o have_v reason_n it_o be_v obvious_a enough_o that_o if_o they_o can_v carry_v thing_n out_o at_o present_a the_o charter_n itself_o as_o all_o record_n be_v will_v be_v a_o strong_a presumption_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o it_o contain_v to_o posterity_n but_o since_o it_o be_v as_o evident_a as_o that_o there_o be_v a_o charter_n that_o this_o clause_n be_v untrue_a it_o be_v likewise_o evident_a that_o those_o who_o put_v it_o in_o think_v it_o necessary_a wherefore_o even_o in_o their_o judgement_n the_o grant_n be_v invalid_a as_o want_v what_o themselves_o think_v absolute_o requisite_a you_o now_o perceive_v of_o what_o importance_n this_o point_n be_v of_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n of_o which_o i_o forbear_v to_o speak_v while_o i_o be_v examine_v whether_o they_o consent_v or_o no._n neither_o do_v i_o mean_v to_o dilate_v upon_o it_o now_o it_o be_v enough_o to_o observe_v that_o the_o want_n of_o it_o absolute_o invalidate_n the_o grant_v and_o this_o in_o the_o judgement_n not_o only_o of_o the_o framer_n and_o of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n of_o france_n but_o of_o parliament_n for_o you_o see_v they_o positive_o declare_v that_o neither_o k._n john_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v bring_v the_o kingdom_n into_o subjection_n without_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n who_o at_o that_o time_n have_v none_o but_o the_o baron_n to_o consent_v for_o they_o so_o that_o not_o to_o acquiesce_v in_o this_o point_n be_v to_o refuse_v the_o high_a authority_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o who_o do_v so_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o live_v in_o the_o nation_n but_o shall_v i_o venture_v to_o join_v our_o author_n himself_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o this_o good_a company_n and_o
shall_v place_v the_o emperor_n by_o himself_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o temporality_n he_o shall_v grant_v two_o beginning_n which_o be_v heresy_n in_o good_a faith_n sir_n i_o can_v think_v otherwise_o but_o if_o these_o man_n say_v true_a your_o catholic_a prince_n let_v they_o keep_v as_o fair_a as_o they_o will_v with_o the_o pope_n be_v all_o heretic_n in_o their_o heart_n and_o than_o what_o follow_v hark_v what_o a_o cardinal_n and_z which_o i_o grieve_v a_o english_a man_n have_v publish_v to_o the_o world_n 87._o card._n allen_n against_o the_o execution_n of_o justice_n p._n 87._o the_o cannon_n law_n say_v he_o be_v authentical_a in_o the_o lawful_a tribunal_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n do_v make_v all_o heretic_n not_o only_o after_o they_o be_v namely_o and_o particular_o denounce_v but_o by_o the_o law_n itself_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v heretic_n be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la excommunicate_v for_o the_o same_o to_o be_v deprive_v of_o their_o dominion_n 154._o philopater_n p._n 154._o another_o tell_v we_o the_o whole_a school_n of_o divine_n and_o canonist_n do_v hold_v and_o that_o it_o be_v certain_a and_o of_o faith_n that_o any_o christian_a prince_n whatsoever_o if_o he_o shall_v manifest_o deflect_v from_o the_o catholic_a religion_n and_o endeavour_v to_o draw_v other_o from_o the_o same_o do_v present_o fall_v from_o all_o power_n and_o dignity_n by_o the_o very_a force_n of_o human_a and_o divine_a law_n and_o that_o also_o before_o any_o sentence_n of_o the_o supreme_a pastor_n or_o judge_n denounce_v against_o he_o and_o that_o his_o subject_n whatsoever_o be_v free_a from_o all_o obligation_n of_o that_o oath_n which_o they_o have_v take_v for_o their_o allegiance_n to_o he_o as_o their_o lawful_a prince_n and_o that_o they_o may_v and_o aught_o if_o they_o have_v force_n drive_v out_o such_o a_o man_n as_o a_o apostate_n or_o heretic_n and_o a_o backslider_n from_o the_o lord_n and_o christ_n and_o a_o enemy_n to_o the_o commonwealth_n from_o all_o dominion_n over_o christian_n lest_o he_o infect_v other_o or_o by_o his_o example_n or_o command_n avert_v other_o from_o the_o faith_n and_o that_o this_o certain_a definite_a and_o undoubted_a opinion_n of_o the_o best_a learned_a man_n be_v whole_o agreeable_a and_o consonant_a to_o the_o apostolical_a doctrine_n upon_o these_o ground_n it_o be_v public_o maintain_v that_o henry_n the_o three_o of_o france_n be_v lawful_o murder_v before_o any_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n pass_v against_o he_o because_o though_o in_o hide_a crime_n formality_n be_v require_v yet_o evidens_fw-la notitia_fw-la facti_fw-la sententiae_fw-la locum_fw-la tenet_fw-la &_o non_fw-la percipit_fw-la formam_fw-la publicus_fw-la dolour_n and_o that_o he_o have_v long_o live_v as_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la 2_o de_fw-fr justa_fw-la abdic_fw-la hen._n 3._o l_o 4._o c._n 2_o though_o the_o law_n have_v not_o past_a sentence_n upon_o he_o for_o favour_v heretic_n for_o simony_n for_o enter_v into_o league_n with_o heretic_n the_o queen_n of_o england_n and_o king_n of_o navarre_n for_o seize_v the_o good_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o pope_n privity_n and_o other_o offence_n against_o the_o bulla_n caenae_n upon_o these_o ground_n i_o have_v see_v that_o execrable_a villain_n chastel_n who_o attempt_v upon_o henry_n the_o four_o what_o ravillac_n after_o perform_v defend_v by_o a_o public_a apology_n and_o i_o see_v no_o attempt_n can_v be_v so_o barbarous_a and_o inhuman_a which_o may_v not_o be_v defend_v by_o they_o so_o that_o by_o your_o favour_n your_o catholic_a prince_n be_v not_o secure_a quiet_v they_o may_v be_v but_o never_o safe_a and_o for_o their_o quietness_n they_o may_v thank_v the_o lucky_a conjuncture_n of_o those_o star_n which_o have_v influence_n upon_o the_o time_n of_o their_o government_n and_o restrain_v the_o malignity_n of_o these_o doctrine_n otherwise_o if_o they_o be_v not_o very_o cunning_a in_o school_n subtlety_n they_o may_v chance_v forfeit_v their_o kingdom_n and_o all_o their_o power_n per_fw-la triccum_fw-la de_fw-la lege_fw-la without_o ever_o know_v when_o or_o how_o live_v all_o their_o life_n time_n in_o the_o erroneous_a belief_n that_o they_o be_v very_a king_n and_o those_o who_o obey_v they_o their_o very_a subject_n and_o be_v deceive_v all_o the_o while_n but_o be_v it_o as_o it_o will_v this_o answer_n which_o will_v justify_v the_o innocence_n of_o these_o doctrine_n by_o the_o security_n of_o catholic_a prince_n come_v pitiful_o off_o when_o instead_o of_o secure_v it_o take_v they_o quite_o away_o which_o be_v a_o fine_a kind_n of_o security_n for_o it_o be_v plain_o a_o much_o easy_a task_n to_o maintain_v by_o these_o doctrine_n that_o there_o be_v never_o a_o true_a prince_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n no_o not_o in_o those_o who_o you_o call_v catholic_o than_o it_o be_v to_o maintain_v the_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o when_o all_o be_v do_v it_o be_v nothing_o to_o purpose_n neither_o for_o our_o prince_n and_o people_n be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o those_o who_o your_o church_n take_v for_o heretic_n and_o can_v expect_v no_o other_o treatment_n from_o you_o than_o what_o you_o maintain_v belong_v to_o heresy_n wherefore_o however_o your_o catholic_a prince_n satisfy_v themselves_o i_o neither_o see_v how_o he_o can_v be_v satisfy_v of_o the_o fidelity_n of_o such_o of_o his_o subject_n as_o approve_v of_o these_o opinion_n nor_o with_o what_o face_n they_o can_v pretend_v security_n and_o protection_n from_o he_o pray_v think_v of_o this_o while_o i_o pass_v to_o what_o i_o put_v for_o a_o second_o answer_n and_o what_o i_o have_v sometime_o hear_v allege_v these_o opinion_n will_v you_o say_v be_v moot-case_n probable_o dispute_v among_o private_a man_n in_o which_o the_o church_n be_v neither_o engage_v nor_o concern_v pray_v god_n this_o church_n be_v not_o as_o slippery_a a_o word_n as_o either_o heresy_n or_o popery_n these_o man_n who_o thus_o magnify_v the_o pope_n certain_o be_v not_o of_o our_o church_n and_o i_o believe_v presbyterian_o and_o fanatic_n of_o all_o sort_n will_v disow_v they_o too_o so_o that_o even_o for_o pity_n and_o not_o to_o make_v infidel_n of_o they_o you_o must_v needs_o take_v they_o into_o you_o but_o they_o who_o speak_v so_o kind_o of_o the_o pope_n need_v not_o fear_v disow_v we_o see_v they_o be_v both_o acknowledge_v and_o esteem_v and_o be_v all_o capita_n alta_fw-la ferentes_fw-la now_o it_o be_v strange_a your_o church_n shall_v be_v unconcern_v in_o man_n who_o you_o account_v orthodox_n and_o learned_a and_o who_o book_n come_v out_o with_o the_o approbation_n of_o those_o who_o your_o church_n commissionate_v for_o that_o purpose_n mething_n the_o act_n of_o her_o officer_n act_v by_o her_o authority_n shall_v be_v take_v for_o the_o act_n of_o the_o church_n unless_o you_o will_v have_v the_o pope_n pass_v for_o one_o of_o those_o careless_a prince_n who_o deserve_v to_o be_v depose_v for_o negligence_n and_o be_v ignorant_a that_o his_o officer_n abuse_v their_o trust_n and_o licence_v unsound_a doctrine_n and_o this_o at_o rome_n itself_o where_o a_o body_n will_v think_v sufficient_a care_n be_v take_v that_o nothing_o pass_v which_o be_v not_o esteem_v orthodox_n bring_v i_o a_o book_n print_v at_o rome_n wherein_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n be_v maintain_v and_o i_o will_v acknowledge_v there_o be_v some_o sense_n in_o this_o answer_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v i_o give_v you_o a_o few_o instance_n and_o those_o at_o home_n by_o which_o it_o may_v appear_v the_o pope_n be_v so_o far_o from_o ignorant_a and_o unconcern_v in_o these_o position_n that_o he_o approve_v and_o countenance_n they_o and_o that_o both_o short_o and_o constant_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o king_n james_n upon_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o execrable_a powder_n treason_n the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n be_v enact_v by_o the_o pious_a wisdom_n of_o the_o parliament_n to_o secure_v his_o majesty_n and_o successor_n from_o the_o like_a attempt_n for_o the_o future_a the_o superior_a of_o the_o catholic_a clergy_n at_o that_o time_n be_v one_o blackwell_n he_o after_o much_o and_o long_a debate_n of_o the_o matter_n with_o his_o fellow_n priest_n at_o last_o resolve_v the_o oath_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a and_o common_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n may_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n be_v take_v by_o the_o catholic_n and_o afterward_o both_o take_v it_o himself_o and_o by_o his_o admonition_n to_o clergy_n and_o laity_n recommend_v it_o to_o they_o as_o a_o thing_n both_o lawful_a and_o fit_v the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o clergy_n who_o repair_v to_o london_n upon_o that_o occasion_n follow_v the_o resolution_n of_o their_o superior_a and_o have_v the_o pope_n be_v either_o a_o little_a more_o ignorant_a or_o a_o little_a more_o negligent_a i_o think_v it_o have_v be_v better_a for_o you_o
bolt_n those_o who_o be_v actor_n in_o these_o matter_n have_v long_o since_o give_v account_n to_o a_o impartial_a judge_n nor_o have_v i_o to_o do_v with_o their_o intention_n but_o bellarmin_n argument_n which_o in_o two_o word_n i_o conceive_v little_a efficacious_a both_o because_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o council_n seem_v questionable_a far_o than_o as_o it_o happen_v sometime_o in_o consistory_n where_o matter_n be_v propose_v in_o some_o case_n for_o form_n sake_n and_o shall_v be_v execute_v as_o they_o be_v preresolved_a however_o the_o cardinal_n vote_n and_o though_o it_o be_v not_o the_o council_n at_o most_o be_v but_o a_o particular_a council_n which_o according_a to_o bellarmin_n himself_o be_v of_o no_o irrefragable_a and_o bind_a authority_n for_o the_o rest_n it_o be_v strange_a if_o the_o pope_n shall_v not_o find_v bishop_n enough_o to_o join_v with_o the_o spiritual_a power_n when_o the_o emperor_n want_v not_o who_o stick_v as_o fast_o to_o the_o temporal_a and_o so_o much_o to_o 8_o of_o the_o 10_o council_n we_o be_v now_o at_o paulo_n majora_fw-la canamus_fw-la the_o two_o council_n which_o remain_v be_v propose_v with_o more_o pomp_n and_o in_o truth_n challenge_v a_o great_a respect_n as_o be_v general_a council_n both_o the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o lateran_n under_o innocent_a 3._o out_o of_o which_o be_v urge_v the_o famous_a canon_n know_v by_o every_o one_o and_o which_o for_o as_o much_o as_o concern_v we_o run_v thus_o but_o if_o a_o temporal_a lord_n require_v and_o admonish_v by_o the_o church_n neglect_v to_o purge_v his_o land_n from_o this_o heretical_a filth_n let_v he_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o his_o metropolitan_a and_o com-provincial_a bishop_n and_o if_o he_o stand_v in_o contempt_n and_o make_v not_o satisfaction_n within_o a_o year_n let_v the_o pope_n be_v make_v acquaint_v that_o he_o may_v from_o that_o time_n declare_v his_o vassal_n absolve_v from_o their_o fealty_n to_o he_o and_o expose_v his_o land_n to_o be_v seize_v on_o by_o catholic_n who_o chase_v away_o the_o heretic_n may_v without_o contradiction_n possess_v and_o preserve_v it_o in_o the_o purity_n of_o faith_n save_v the_o right_a of_o the_o principal_a lord_n provide_v he_o bring_v no_o obstacle_n nor_o hindrance_n to_o the_o premise_n observe_v nevertheless_o the_o same_o rule_n with_o they_o who_o have_v no_o principal_a lord_n bellarmin_n be_v wonderful_o agog_o with_o this_o what_o say_v he_o will_v barclay_n say_v here_o if_o this_o be_v not_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n where_o shall_v we_o find_v it_o and_o if_o it_o be_v as_o most_o true_o it_o be_v he_o that_o out_o of_o contempt_n as_o barclay_n hear_v it_o not_o be_v he_o not_o to_o be_v esteem_v a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n and_o in_o no_o manner_n a_o christian_a and_o pious_a if_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o power_n on_o earth_n to_o dispose_v of_o temporal_n even_o to_o the_o deposition_n of_o those_o prince_n who_o either_o be_v heretic_n themselves_o or_o any_o way_n favour_n heretic_n why_o at_o the_o set_n out_o this_o canon_n do_v none_o of_o so_o great_a a_o number_n make_v opposition_n why_o of_o so_o many_o ambassador_n of_o emperor_n and_o king_n not_o one_o who_o dare_v so_o much_o as_o mutter_v these_o parasite_n to_o temporal_a prince_n be_v not_o yet_o spring_v up_o who_o under_o pretence_n of_o establish_v temporal_a kingdom_n take_v away_o the_o eternal_a kingdom_n from_o those_o who_o they_o flatter_v i_o marry_v here_o be_v a_o fit_a of_o triumphant_a zeal_n but_o i_o suppose_v if_o he_o have_v cast_v a_o little_a water_n on_o the_o flame_n it_o will_v have_v be_v hot_a enough_o for_o the_o occasion_n this_o parasite_n and_o flatterer_n heathen_n publican_n and_o impious_a be_v expression_n a_o little_a too_o zealous_a in_o what_o a_o case_n be_v they_o who_o condemn_v all_o this_o zeal_n and_o have_v they_o not_o have_v more_o respect_n to_o his_o purple_n then_o his_o argument_n in_o all_o likelihood_n have_v burn_v it_o too_o and_o yet_o have_v as_o good_a ear_n in_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o world_n as_o bellarmin_n and_o can_v hear_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o soon_o but_o to_o be_v serious_a what_o barclay_n will_v have_v say_v here_o i_o can_v tell_v but_o i_o suppose_v if_o death_n have_v not_o stop_v his_o mouth_n he_o will_v have_v say_v something_o for_o this_o canon_n be_v no_o such_o secret_a that_o he_o can_v be_v imagine_v ignorant_a of_o it_o or_o unprovided_a against_o it_o at_o least_o his_o son_n do_v find_v something_o to_o say_v for_o he_o to_o which_o i_o can_v no_o more_o tell_v what_o bellarmin_n will_v say_v than_o he_o can_v what_o barclay_n will_v say_v to_o the_o council_n i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o mention_v part_n of_o what_o he_o say_v by_o and_o by_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n as_o this_o council_n never_o fail_v to_o be_v lay_v in_o the_o way_n of_o all_o who_o travel_n this_o road_n people_n have_v several_a turn_n to_o avoid_v it_o there_o be_v who_o question_n whether_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o be_v define_v there_o at_o least_o in_o a_o conciliar_a way_n or_o if_o any_o thing_n be_v define_v that_o the_o world_n be_v due_o make_v acquaint_v with_o the_o business_n for_o which_o beside_o that_o some_o historian_n express_o say_v nothing_o be_v conclude_v they_o have_v these_o presumption_n the_o canon_n which_o we_o have_v discover_v by_o their_o stile_n that_o they_o be_v not_o make_v in_o the_o council_n they_o run_v some_o of_o they_o in_o this_o manner_n it_o be_v pious_o provide_v in_o the_o lateran_n council_n it_o be_v know_v it_o be_v forbid_v in_o the_o lateran_n council_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v phrase_n very_o unlikely_a to_o have_v be_v use_v by_o the_o council_n if_o that_o frame_v the_o decree_n again_o the_o whole_a authority_n of_o this_o council_n rest_v as_o far_o as_o i_o see_v upon_o one_o cochlaeus_fw-la the_o council_n have_v be_v set_v out_o and_o this_o omit_v either_o not_o know_v or_o not_o procurable_a by_o he_o who_o manage_v the_o business_n against_o another_o edition_n this_o cochlaeus_fw-la furnish_v the_o press_n with_o the_o copy_n which_o we_o now_o have_v whence_o he_o have_v it_o himself_o i_o know_v not_o but_o methinks_v the_o credit_n of_o a_o private_a man_n be_v a_o weak_a support_n for_o a_o matter_n of_o this_o consequence_n beside_o how_o much_o time_n ought_v in_o reason_n be_v allow_v to_o a_o conciliar_a discusion_n and_o determination_n of_o threescore_o canon_n carenza_n have_v threescore_o and_o ten_o and_o somewhere_o i_o have_v hear_v of_o another_o number_n which_o disagreement_n by_o the_o way_n be_v a_o suspicious_a thing_n m._n paris_n tell_v we_o the_o council_n be_v summon_v for_o the_o first_o of_o nou._n and_o meet_v i_o suppose_v at_o the_o day_n the_o pope_n first_o make_v a_o exhortation_n afterward_o cause_v 60_o chapter_n to_o be_v read_v and_o conclude_v with_o a_o second_o exhortation_n concern_v the_o h._n land_n all_o this_o as_o far_o as_o can_v be_v gather_v by_o he_o pass_v in_o one_o day_n which_o if_o it_o do_v the_o council_n can_v not_o possible_o contribute_v more_o than_o the_o hear_n to_o any_o thing_n beside_o he_o plain_o say_v these_o 60_o chapter_n to_o some_o appear_v easy_a to_o other_o burdensome_a which_o be_v very_o far_o from_o a_o conciliar_a approbation_n now_o he_o say_v not_o precise_o when_o the_o council_n end_v but_o it_o be_v apparent_a by_o he_o that_o it_o last_v not_o long_o the_o pope_n in_o this_o council_n at_o the_o king_n instance_n suspend_v the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n this_o suspension_n bear_v date_n pridie_fw-la nonas_fw-la or_o four_o nou._n beside_o he_o vacat_n the_o election_n of_o his_o brother_n simon_n langton_n to_o the_o sea_n of_o york_n and_o excommunicate_v the_o baron_n of_o england_n these_o sentence_n be_v not_o record_v as_o the_o other_o but_o in_o liklyhood_n pass_v at_o the_o same_o time_n m._n paris_n mention_n immediate_o the_o end_n of_o the_o council_n quo_fw-la facto_fw-la after_o which_o say_v he_o two_o of_o the_o three_o agent_n which_o the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v there_o return_v to_o bring_v he_o the_o good_a news_n they_o find_v he_o at_o rochester_n from_o whence_o he_o march_v to_o st._n alban_n and_o come_v thither_o time_n enough_o to_o have_v the_o suspension_n of_o the_o archbishop_n attest_v by_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o convent_n 13_o calend._n jan._n or_o 20_o decemb._n by_o this_o account_n how_o long_o can_v the_o council_n last_o or_o how_o much_o time_n can_v be_v spend_v in_o due_o weigh_v so_o many_o canon_n some_o of_o such_o importance_n when_o man_n who_o have_v see_v the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o council_n which_o begin_v not_o before_o nou._n be_v in_o england_n by_o the_o 20_o of_o december_n
on_o what_o be_v past_a hereafter_o possible_o when_o i_o be_o in_o a_o calm_a disposition_n and_o my_o settle_a spirit_n at_o more_o liberty_n to_o compare_v what_o he_o say_v to_o you_o with_o what_o you_o have_v say_v to_o i_o i_o may_v call_v you_o to_o a_o new_a account_n and_o see_v whether_o you_o can_v maintain_v what_o you_o have_v write_v but_o at_o present_a take_v all_o you_o have_v give_v i_o in_o payment_n for_o currant_n money_n let_v we_o only_o see_v how_o far_o it_o will_v go_v that_o in_o relation_n to_o you_o and_o such_o as_o be_v principled_a like_o you_o we_o be_v safe_a from_o all_o pretension_n of_o divine_a right_n which_o the_o pope_n can_v have_v upon_o we_o i_o fair_o allow_v you_o be_v we_o therefore_o safe_a plain_o no_o if_o he_o have_v right_a over_o we_o any_o other_o way_n nay_o whether_o he_o have_v right_a or_o no_o so_o he_o but_o pretend_v it_o and_o you_o will_v own_v his_o pretence_n we_o be_v as_o bad_a as_o ever_o there_o be_v a_o thing_n call_v human_a right_n in_o the_o world_n by_o which_o man_n enjoy_v their_o land_n and_o good_n and_o whatever_o they_o call_v with_o truth_n their_o own_o it_o have_v not_o altogether_o so_o glorious_a a_o sound_n as_o the_o other_o but_o be_v not_o much_o less_o efficacious_a for_o the_o world_n can_v not_o subsist_v without_o it_o now_o although_o what_o the_o pope_n claim_v by_o divine_a right_n be_v enough_o as_o he_o order_v matter_n to_o satisfy_v a_o not_o very_o unreasonable_a man_n yet_o his_o claim_n by_o that_o be_v no_o bar_n from_o claim_v by_o any_o other_o title_n too_o by_o which_o right_o may_v be_v have_v he_o may_v purchase_v as_o well_o as_o another_o man_n or_o receive_v a_o gift_n or_o legacy_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o he_o get_v by_o these_o or_o any_o other_o way_n by_o which_o the_o property_n of_o thing_n be_v transfer_v be_v as_o true_o he_o as_o they_o will_v be_v of_o any_o other_o man_n by_o the_o same_o title_n and_o who_o can_v blame_v he_o for_o join_v as_o much_o silver_n as_o he_o can_v to_o his_o gold_n this_o be_v so_o we_o have_v make_v a_o fine_a hand_n on_o it_o with_o all_o our_o wise_a speculation_n and_o be_v much_o behold_v to_o you_o for_o furnish_v we_o with_o armour_n of_o proof_n against_o the_o sharp_a point_n of_o divine_a right_n while_o the_o human_a may_v chance_n knock_v out_o our_o brain_n with_o her_o clouterly_a club_n if_o there_o be_v no_o fence_n for_o this_o flayl_n we_o be_v as_o much_o at_o his_o mercy_n as_o ever_o now_o baronius_n have_v take_v care_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a that_o he_o may_v claim_v both_o england_n and_o ireland_n and_o this_o independent_o of_o divine_a right_n and_o in_o virtue_n of_o such_o title_n as_o be_v allow_v to_o create_v right_o in_o other_o man_n i_o must_v confess_v though_o he_o speak_v plain_a enough_o yet_o i_o be_v not_o so_o much_o startle_v by_o he_o who_o i_o take_v for_o a_o partial_a man_n and_o who_o i_o see_v entitle_v he_o to_o the_o better_a part_n of_o christendom_n as_o well_o as_o england_n this_o seem_v a_o fancy_n too_o wild_a to_o deserve_v much_o credit_n and_o i_o think_v while_o our_o case_n be_v not_o singular_a but_o common_a to_o so_o many_o and_o so_o powerful_a state_n and_o which_o engage_v the_o strength_n of_o christendom_n on_o our_o side_n we_o be_v safe_a enough_o i_o consider_v we_o be_v pretty_a well_o out_o of_o the_o way_n and_o that_o he_o can_v not_o come_v at_o we_o till_o he_o have_v possess_v himself_o of_o some_o little_a country_n which_o lie_v between_o we_o and_o which_o i_o believe_v will_v find_v he_o work_v enough_o to_o let_v we_o sleep_v in_o quiet_a and_o need_v no_o better_a security_n then_o that_o of_o ulysses_n to_o be_v devour_v last_o but_o i_o perceive_v by_o the_o consideration_n the_o case_n indifferent_a from_o what_o i_o fancy_v the_o pope_n i_o find_v have_v something_o to_o say_v to_o we_o which_o he_o can_v say_v to_o every_o body_n and_o which_o to_o tell_v you_o truth_n i_o be_o ill_a at_o ease_n to_o see_v can_v be_v say_v i_o know_v you_o will_v spare_v i_o the_o labour_n of_o transcribe_v out_o of_o a_o book_n which_o i_o believe_v you_o have_v at_o least_o may_v have_v on_o every_o stall_n pray_o what_o say_v you_o to_o it_o the_o author_n be_v no_o baronius_n or_o bellarmine_n to_o be_v suspect_v of_o partiality_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o though_o he_o be_v reason_n be_v reason_n whoever_o say_v it_o blind_a justice_n see_v neither_o friend_n nor_o foe_n and_o value_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v on_o the_o left_a or_o right_a hand_n the_o scale_n go_v down_o true_o i_o do_v not_o see_v we_o be_v a_o jot_n the_o better_a for_o all_o your_o hardly_o draw_v out_o condescendency_n we_o be_v at_o the_o en_fw-fr tierce_n and_o the_o en_fw-fr quart_n again_o while_o the_o pope_n play_v fair_a play_n we_o fear_v he_o not_o but_o what_o ward_n for_o his_o foin_a trick_n certain_o he_o be_v no_o such_o fantastical_a man_n to_o insist_v more_o on_o the_o way_n then_o the_o end_n he_o will_v be_v content_a without_o all_o doubt_n to_o drive_v the_o nail_n that_o will_v go_v and_z so_o he_o can_v get_v a_o kingdom_n be_v satisfy_v to_o take_v it_o as_o it_o come_v and_o like_o it_o never_o the_o worse_o for_o bring_v a_o bare_a human_a title_n along_o with_o it_o but_o whatever_o he_o will_v think_v we_o can_v agree_v he_o may_v with_o justice_n do_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o prejudice_n nay_o a_o human_a title_n will_v be_v so_o much_o worse_a than_o a_o divine_a by_o how_o much_o we_o must_v all_o acknowledge_v that_o human_a right_n be_v a_o true_a right_n since_o we_o have_v no_o other_o to_o whatever_o we_o possess_v and_o hold_v dear_a in_o the_o world_n whereas_o we_o be_v less_o acquaint_v with_o the_o other_o it_o be_v not_o but_o that_o i_o believe_v we_o may_v with_o our_o author_n rely_v secure_o on_o prescription_n but_o with_o such_o a_o gamester_n and_o for_o such_o a_o stage_n it_o be_v good_a to_o play_v sure_a beside_o there_o be_v as_o much_o danger_n from_o what_o be_v apprehend_v as_o from_o what_o be_v bare_a right_n alone_o will_v do_v no_o great_a feat_n it_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v and_o abet_v to_o become_v efficacious_a and_o if_o that_o which_o true_o be_v not_o right_o be_v take_v for_o right_a and_o will_v be_v stand_v to_o and_o maintain_v it_o will_v do_v as_o much_o as_o if_o it_o be_v right_o now_o prescription_n which_o our_o author_n say_v be_v our_o only_a but_o withal_o a_o very_a sufficient_a plea_n he_o say_v also_o the_o pope_n will_v not_o allow_v and_o we_o know_v how_o much_o influence_n he_o have_v upon_o those_o of_o his_o communion_n and_o how_o prone_a you_o be_v to_o be_v of_o his_o opinion_n if_o you_o be_v of_o his_o mind_n in_o this_o particular_a and_o admit_v no_o prescription_n against_o he_o then_o whether_o he_o have_v right_o or_o no_o you_o at_o least_o be_v persuade_v he_o have_v and_o will_v undoubted_o act_v according_a to_o your_o persuasion_n when_o time_n serve_v i_o have_v a_o little_a too_o much_o reason_n to_o be_v concern_v for_o this_o point_n hiberno_fw-la disputatio_fw-la apologetica_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la regni_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la authore_fw-la c._n m._n hiberno_fw-la there_o be_v a_o certain_a friend_n of_o you_o at_o least_o he_o be_v of_o your_o communion_n who_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o defend_v in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o world_n that_o of_o the_o condition_n require_v to_o prescription_n there_o be_v not_o one_o which_o hold_v in_o the_o prescription_n of_o the_o king_n of_o england_n to_o ireland_n when_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v it_o be_v time_n to_o look_v about_o we_o though_o england_n be_v unconcern_v ireland_n be_v too_o considerable_a a_o branch_n to_o be_v turn_n away_o from_o the_o stock_n it_o be_v treason_n in_o great_a abundance_n to_o imagine_v the_o dispossess_v our_o sovereign_n of_o any_o part_n of_o his_o dominion_n and_o here_o be_v plenty_n of_o man_n with_o hard_a name_n produce_v to_o prove_v it_o be_v consonant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o catholic_n author_n to_o dismember_v a_o great_a kingdom_n at_o once_o and_o this_o without_o any_o relation_n to_o divine_a right_n though_o it_o be_v slight_o touch_v by_o the_o by_o and_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v you_o may_v pick_v as_o many_o hole_n in_o our_o prescription_n against_o the_o pope_n as_o this_o author_n do_v in_o our_o prescription_n to_o ireland_n twenty_o to_o one_o but_o scotland_n will_v be_v hook_a in_o too_o some_o way_n or_o other_o or_o though_o it_o be_v not_o it_o will_v go_v near_o to_o fall_v in_o of_o itself_o either_o as_o part_v of_o england_n or_o at_o least_o
by_o election_n or_o succession_n or_o force_v come_v to_o be_v emperor_n i_o mean_v till_o the_o empire_n be_v translate_v to_o the_o west_n for_o as_o he_o have_v a_o great_a hand_n in_o that_o translation_n he_o have_v ever_o since_o appear_v more_o but_o i_o speak_v of_o the_o time_n before_o and_o all_o this_o be_v evident_a beyond_o all_o dispute_n reconcile_v this_o who_o can_v with_o constantins_n donation_n if_o he_o put_v the_o pope_n in_o possession_n of_o the_o western_a province_n how_o can_v he_o bequeath_v they_o to_o his_o son_n and_o if_o he_o put_v he_o not_o in_o possession_n how_o can_v he_o be_v say_v to_o give_v they_o it_o be_v a_o mockery_n not_o a_o gift_n to_o say_v these_o province_n be_v you_o which_o i_o keep_v to_o myself_o during_o life_n and_o dispose_v to_o other_o after_o my_o death_n livery_n and_o seisin_n be_v pretty_a material_a circumstance_n in_o such_o conveyance_n where_o nothing_o can_v be_v understand_v to_o pass_v without_o they_o if_o constantine_n give_v they_o the_o pope_n must_v have_v have_v they_o and_o that_o he_o have_v they_o not_o be_v as_o plain_a as_o history_n can_v make_v any_o thing_n where_o it_o be_v particular_o with_o uniform_a consent_n record_v in_o who_o hand_n these_o western_a province_n be_v what_o change_v happen_v from_o time_n to_o time_n and_o by_o what_o mean_v from_o the_o death_n of_o constantine_n till_o the_o arm_n and_o favour_n of_o france_n under_o pipin_n and_o his_o son_n charles_n put_v into_o the_o pope_n possession_n most_o of_o what_o he_o have_v it_o be_v know_v and_o by_o bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v that_o pope_n during_o those_o time_n be_v subject_n at_o least_o the_o facto_fw-la which_o be_v enough_o for_o our_o present_a purpose_n there_o need_v no_o more_o to_o show_v they_o have_v not_o those_o country_n which_o constantine_n be_v say_v to_o have_v give_v to_o they_o not_o but_o that_o both_o he_o and_z divers_z other_o after_z and_o before_o he_o too_o be_v extreme_o munificent_a to_o the_o church_n by_o which_o munificence_n much_o land_n in_o several_a place_n be_v settle_v on_o she_o by_o way_n of_o alm_n and_o actual_o in_o her_o possession_n but_o she_o enjoy_v the_o revenue_n only_o of_o those_o land_n administration_n of_o justice_n and_o all_o regality_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o temporal_a lord_n this_o have_v deceive_v some_o who_o find_v mention_n of_o possession_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n imagine_v they_o so_o belong_v to_o she_o then_o as_o they_o do_v now_o with_o entire_a and_o independent_a subjection_n whereas_o till_o pope_n be_v by_o the_o liberality_n and_o power_n of_o the_o french_a raise_v to_o the_o state_n of_o temporal_a prince_n the_o land_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o same_o condition_n with_o the_o estate_n of_o other_o subject_n the_o immediate_a owner_n receive_v the_o profit_n and_o both_o their_o land_n and_o themselves_o subject_a to_o the_o supreme_a lord_n they_o be_v give_v to_o other_o church_n as_o well_o as_o rome_n for_o maintenance_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o poor_a for_o the_o expense_n of_o building_n and_o reparation_n and_o divine_a service_n and_o that_o so_o plentiful_o that_o some_o refuse_v offer_v patrimony_n other_o restore_v what_o they_o once_o have_v not_o willing_a to_o be_v burden_a with_o more_o than_o be_v needful_a these_o land_n pay_v public_a duty_n as_o other_o land_n do_v till_o the_o law_n exempt_v they_o but_o these_o thing_n be_v beside_o the_o matter_n to_o return_v to_o our_o argument_n if_o the_o successor_n of_o constantin_n continue_v the_o only_o know_v master_n of_o those_o very_a country_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v give_v away_o if_o pope_n acknowledge_v they_o for_o such_o as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n and_o never_o so_o much_o as_o put_v in_o any_o claim_n or_o pretend_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o contrary_a and_o all_o this_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o nothing_o can_v be_v plain_a no_o fiction_n can_v be_v more_o palpable_a nor_o more_o wild_a than_o this_o of_o constantin_n donation_n it_o be_v undeniable_o evident_a that_o neither_o pope_n nor_o emperor_n nor_o any_o body_n else_o in_o those_o day_n know_v any_o thing_n of_o it_o and_o it_o be_v as_o evident_a that_o they_o must_v know_v of_o it_o if_o it_o have_v be_v at_o all_o at_o least_o if_o they_o do_v not_o none_o else_o can_v in_o after_o time_n this_o donation_n be_v not_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o world_n till_o long_o after_o 12._o baron_fw-fr ad_fw-la a_o 1191._o n._n 52._o marca_n de_fw-fr conc._n sacerd._n &_o imp._n l._n 3._o c._n 12._o baronius_n think_v the_o pretend_a charter_n forge_v by_o the_o grecian_n after_o the_o ten_o age_n marca_n by_o the_o latin_n in_o the_o time_n of_o pippin_n and_o by_o his_o consent_n to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o grecian_n who_o make_v instance_n that_o the_o land_n recover_v from_o the_o lombard_n and_o by_o he_o give_v to_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v restore_v to_o the_o empire_n however_o it_o be_v for_o the_o time_n or_o author_n of_o the_o fiction_n that_o the_o charter_n be_v a_o mere_a and_o late_a forgery_n be_v acknowledge_v both_o by_o baronius_n and_o by_o most_o of_o the_o learned_a man_n even_o of_o the_o pope_n communion_n that_o the_o donation_n can_v be_v pretend_v with_o any_o show_n of_o reason_n but_o in_o force_n of_o the_o charter_n be_v plain_a for_o it_o be_v next_o to_o madness_n to_o say_v the_o west_n be_v give_v and_o produce_v no_o evidence_n of_o the_o gift_n any_o man_n may_v claim_v any_o man_n estate_n with_o as_o much_o colour_n and_o the_o pope_n from_o such_o a_o claim_n can_v expect_v no_o more_o success_n than_o another_o man_n but_o there_o be_v nothing_o which_o can_v be_v allege_v in_o proof_n of_o this_o donation_n beside_o this_o charter_n wherefore_o the_o whole_a business_n of_o which_o you_o seem_v to_o be_v jealous_a be_v in_o itself_o a_o pure_a chimaera_n absolute_o contradict_v by_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n and_o consent_n of_o history_n and_o the_o only_a evidence_n producible_a for_o it_o acknowledge_v a_o forgery_n by_o ourselves_o and_o if_o this_o give_v you_o much_o disquiet_n i_o can_v but_o think_v you_o wonderful_a fearful_a let_v the_o worst_a come_v to_o the_o worst_a it_o be_v not_o the_o case_n of_o england_n alone_o france_n and_o spain_n and_o germany_n be_v western_a province_n as_o well_o as_o britain_n and_o as_o much_o concern_v as_o we_o while_o we_o have_v such_o outwork_n we_o need_v not_o much_o fear_n our_o fort._n the_o truth_n be_v our_o safety_n depend_v in_o reality_n on_o they_o for_o let_v his_o right_n be_v never_o so_o good_a till_o it_o have_v seize_v on_o they_o it_o can_v fasten_v on_o we_o and_o when_o it_o have_v we_o can_v escape_v let_v it_o be_v never_o so_o bad_a mean_a time_n i_o think_v you_o may_v sleep_v quiet_o on_o the_o noise_n which_o will_v be_v make_v in_o the_o world_n when_o any_o of_o these_o country_n leave_v their_o native_a prince_n and_o become_v subject_a to_o a_o foreigner_n and_o quit_v their_o long_a settle_a custom_n and_o law_n and_o liberty_n in_o reverence_n to_o constantin_n donation_n will_v wake_v you_o time_n enough_o but_o if_o you_o sleep_v till_o then_o you_o will_v go_v near_o to_o be_v the_o 8_o sleeper_n and_o alone_a out-slumber_n all_o the_o seven_o thus_o far_o of_o our_o journey_n we_o have_v good_a company_n with_o we_o and_o the_o best_a part_n of_o christendom_n be_v of_o the_o caravan_n travel_n with_o security_n enough_o but_o now_o the_o road_n part_n and_o we_o must_v shift_v for_o ourselves_o henry_n ii_o say_v you_o from_o baronius_n acknowledge_v the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n fendatory_a to_o the_o pope_n in_o a_o letter_n extant_a in_o petrus_n blesensis_fw-la you_o may_v have_v add_v the_o cardinal_n comment_n upon_o the_o pope_n confirmation_n or_o rather_o approbation_n of_o k._n stephen_n election_n which_o he_o say_v be_v therefore_o mention_v in_o the_o coronation_n oath_n because_o the_o kingdom_n be_v feudatory_a to_o the_o pope_n 21._o baron_fw-fr ad_fw-la a_o 1135._o 21._o so_o that_o every_o new_a king_n receive_v confirmation_n from_o he_o which_o also_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o hen._n ii_o in_o the_o letter_n of_o blesensis_n 5._o ad_fw-la a_o 1172._o n._n 5._o beside_o he_o produce_v afterward_o from_o the_o act_n of_o alexander_n iii_o a_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n make_v at_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o difference_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n wherein_o the_o king_n both_o father_n and_o son_n be_v make_v to_o swear_v that_o they_o will_v receive_v and_o hold_v the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n from_o the_o pope_n and_o neither_o they_o nor_o their_o successor_n repute_v themselves_o king_n of_o england_n till_o the_o pope_n for_o
the_o time_n be_v acknowledge_v they_o catholic_n king_n we_o have_v here_o the_o cardinal_n word_n the_o authority_n of_o his_o act_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o petrus_n blesensis_n for_o the_o cardinal_n word_n it_o have_v be_v more_o for_o his_o credit_n if_o he_o have_v not_o engage_v in_o it_o a_o manifest_a untruth_n people_n will_v have_v be_v more_o apt_a to_o believe_v he_o in_o other_o thing_n it_o be_v not_o know_v more_o certain_o that_o there_o have_v be_v roman_n and_o saxon_n dane_n and_o norman_n in_o this_o island_n than_o that_o the_o supreme_a government_n be_v and_o always_o have_v be_v independent_a on_o any_o but_o god_n true_o i_o grieve_v and_o be_o ashamed_a to_o see_v zeal_n to_o the_o pope_n carry_v it_o in_o such_o a_o man_n above_o zeal_n to_o truth_n for_o thus_o much_o of_o his_o say_n that_o england_n be_v feudatory_a he_o do_v indeed_o bring_v proof_n such_o as_o it_o be_v but_o for_o the_o latter_a part_n that_o every_o new_a king_n receive_v confirmation_n from_o the_o pope_n he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v at_o any_o and_o yet_o the_o business_n be_v of_o such_o a_o nature_n that_o the_o proof_n must_v needs_o be_v evident_a and_o obvious_a if_o the_o thing_n be_v true_a but_o the_o contrary_n be_v notorious_a every_o body_n that_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o our_o matter_n know_v that_o no_o king_n of_o england_n ever_o receive_v confirmation_n from_o rome_n no_o not_o king_n stephen_n himself_o there_o be_v indeed_o this_o preamble_n not_o to_o the_o coronation_n oath_n as_o baronius_n mistake_v but_o to_o the_o ratification_n of_o what_o king_n stephen_n have_v promise_v when_o he_o be_v crown_v at_o westminster_n in_o a_o assembly_n at_o oxford_n ego_fw-la stephanus_n d._n g._n assensu_fw-la cleri_fw-la &_o populi_n in_o regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la electus_fw-la &_o à_fw-fr willielmo_n cant._n archiepiscopo_fw-la &_o s._n rom._n ecclesiae_fw-la legato_n consecratus_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la innocentio_n s._n rom._n sedis_fw-la pontifice_fw-la confirmatus_fw-la etc._n etc._n upon_o this_o plain_a song_n the_o cardinal_n descent_n in_o the_o manner_n before_o rehearse_v and_o may_v as_o well_o and_o as_o true_o have_v conclude_v that_o the_o kingdom_n be_v likewise_o elective_a for_o it_o be_v at_o lest_o true_a that_o he_o be_v elect_v but_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o he_o be_v confirm_v the_o pope_n letter_n to_o the_o king_n be_v extant_a in_o richardus_fw-la hagulstadensis_fw-la confirmation_n be_v so_o far_o from_o appear_v there_o that_o the_o word_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v he_o say_v only_o that_o since_o for_o avoid_v the_o mischief_n likely_a to_o ensue_v upon_o the_o death_n of_o henry_n i._o he_o have_v by_o unanimous_a consent_n be_v choose_v to_o succeed_v he_o the_o pope_n be_v well_o please_v with_o what_o be_v do_v and_o with_o paternal_a affection_n receive_v he_o for_o a_o special_a son_n of_o the_o rom._n church_n and_o will_v treat_v he_o with_o the_o same_o honour_n and_o familiarity_n which_o he_o have_v use_v to_o his_o predecessor_n of_o famous_a memory_n this_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o confirmation_n and_o the_o language_n of_o a_o supreme_a lord_n no_o state_n in_o christendom_n or_o out_o of_o christendom_n but_o confirm_v king_n as_o well_o as_o the_o pope_n if_o this_o be_v confirmation_n when_o any_o prince_n have_v a_o flaw_n in_o his_o title_n he_o seek_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o neighbour_n prince_n and_o when_o they_o acknowledge_v they_o confirm_v he_o as_o much_o as_o the_o pope_n do_v k._n stephen_n and_o this_o be_v plain_o the_o case_n maud_n the_o empress_n daughter_n to_o henry_n i._o be_v the_o true_a heir_n of_o the_o crown_n king_n stephen_n himself_o have_v by_o a_o solemn_a and_o late_a oath_n acknowledge_v she_o right_n and_o engage_v to_o maintain_v it_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o colour_v his_o proceed_n as_o well_o as_o he_o can_v and_o provide_v something_o to_o say_v that_o he_o may_v not_o pass_v for_o a_o manifest_o perjure_a man_n and_o so_o he_o reckon_v up_o election_n and_o consecration_n and_o confirmation_n which_o yet_o altogether_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v he_o a_o good_a title_n in_o the_o judgement_n even_o of_o the_o pope_n himself_o for_o when_o k._n stephen_n desirous_a to_o secure_v the_o succession_n to_o his_o son_n eustace_n require_v the_o bishop_n to_o crown_v he_o in_o his_o own_o life_n time_n they_o with_o the_o hazard_n of_o their_o life_n constant_o refuse_v to_o do_v it_o be_v forbid_v by_o the_o pope_n to_o crown_v the_o son_n of_o a_o man_n who_o have_v usurp_v the_o kingdom_n contrary_a to_o his_o oath_n have_v the_o pope_n be_v think_v supreme_a lord_n and_o his_o consent_n necessary_a k._n stephen_n must_v have_v have_v recourse_n to_o he_o in_o the_o first_o place_n and_o can_v not_o have_v take_v the_o crown_n till_o his_o ratification_n be_v come_v but_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o be_v crown_v before_o the_o pope_n be_v make_v acquaint_v with_o the_o business_n and_o before_o he_o know_v how_o the_o pope_n will_v take_v it_o and_o however_o he_o have_v take_v it_o i_o believe_v will_v have_v keep_v the_o crown_n which_o he_o have_v get_v indeed_o he_o think_v it_o for_o the_o advantage_n of_o his_o affair_n to_o call_v the_o pope_n acknowledgement_n a_o confirmation_n but_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o ground_n in_o the_o letter_n on_o which_o to_o raise_v such_o a_o construction_n and_o beside_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o be_v not_o dependence_n of_o the_o crown_n but_o defect_n of_o title_n in_o himself_o to_o which_o that_o confirmation_n such_o as_o it_o be_v can_v be_v apply_v so_o that_o baronius_n be_v quite_o out_o and_o the_o worst_a commenter_n that_o ever_o be_v it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o true_a that_o every_o new_a king_n receive_v confirmation_n from_o rome_n that_o no_o one_o ever_o do_v it_o not_o the_o very_a king_n out_o of_o who_o fact_n he_o so_o vain_o infer_v all_o the_o rest_n but_o that_o the_o force_n of_o prejudice_n be_v almost_o inconceivable_a one_o will_v hardly_o believe_v so_o learned_a and_o judicious_a a_o man_n shall_v falter_v in_o this_o manner_n however_o it_o be_v he_o must_v excuse_v we_o from_o take_v his_o word_n in_o a_o case_n where_o no_o body_n that_o i_o know_v will_v take_v the_o word_n of_o the_o pope_n himself_o for_o his_o act_n they_o be_v a_o relation_n of_o no_o body_n know_v who_o and_o that_o i_o think_v be_v a_o pleasant_a title_n to_o no_o less_o than_o a_o kingdom_n the_o author_n be_v a_o nameless_a man_n of_o who_o it_o can_v be_v understand_v either_o that_o he_o be_v well_o inform_v of_o what_o he_o deliver_v or_o faithful_o deliver_v what_o he_o be_v inform_v of_o have_v the_o cardinal_n reflect_v a_o little_a better_o on_o it_o i_o believe_v he_o will_v have_v be_v more_o tender_a in_o expose_v such_o proof_n to_o a_o censorious_a world_n these_o unauthentick_a act_n be_v plain_o contradict_v by_o such_o as_o be_v authentic_a roger_n hoveden_n in_o his_o annal_n have_v preserve_v a_o copy_n of_o the_o agreement_n make_v by_o the_o pope_n legate_n with_o henry_n ii_o upon_o the_o death_n of_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n there_o the_o oath_n be_v set_v down_o as_o it_o be_v take_v which_o be_v this_o that_o they_o father_n and_o son_n will_v not_o recede_v from_o pope_n alexander_n and_o his_o catholic_n successor_n as_o long_o as_o he_o shall_v treat_v they_o like_o their_o ancestor_n and_o catholic_n king_n this_o be_v seal_v by_o the_o king_n and_o legate_n for_o a_o authentic_a memory_n of_o what_o be_v conclude_v and_o this_o baronius_n himself_o have_v set_v down_o at_o large_a out_o of_o hoveden_n with_o hoveden_n agree_v the_o other_o historian_n near_a those_o time_n bromton_n and_o gervasin_n dorobornensis_n for_o the_o rest_n mention_v not_o this_o particular_a at_o all_o and_o with_o this_o agree_v the_o relation_n send_v by_o the_o legate_n themselves_o to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o ravenna_n extant_a in_o hoveden_n against_o so_o clear_a a_o evidence_n to_o bring_v a_o nameless_a author_n be_v more_o to_o weaken_v the_o credit_n of_o his_o own_o proof_n than_o strengthen_v the_o pope_n claim_n people_n will_v be_v wary_a how_o they_o trust_v act_n produce_v by_o baronius_n when_o he_o produce_v such_o as_o these_o and_o be_v convince_v that_o if_o the_o pope_n himself_o be_v infallible_a all_o who_o write_v of_o he_o be_v not_o there_o remain_v blesensis_n of_o who_o so_o much_o be_v know_v that_o he_o may_v possible_o be_v employ_v to_o write_v a_o letter_n for_o the_o king_n to_o the_o pope_n but_o that_o he_o do_v write_v this_o letter_n and_o by_o order_n from_o the_o king_n needs_o some_o better_a proof_n than_o that_o it_o be_v find_v among_o his_o paper_n it_o may_v be_v a_o rough_a draught_n never_o send_v in_o
there_o be_v exactness_n enough_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o single_a penny_n the_o crown_n sure_o can_v not_o pass_v by_o unregarded_a if_o any_o man_n fancy_n want_n of_o fidelity_n in_o our_o historian_n may_v possible_o suppress_v so_o ungrateful_a a_o truth_n let_v he_o produce_v those_o more_o faithful_a foreigner_n who_o have_v record_v it_o but_o consider_v the_o zeal_n of_o those_o time_n and_o mighty_a opinion_n they_o have_v of_o rome_n when_o the_o great_a king_n frequent_o become_v pilgrim_n and_o sometime_o leave_v their_o kingdom_n whole_o and_o become_v monk_n there_o the_o suspicion_n lie_v on_o the_o other_o side_n it_o be_v more_o rational_a to_o fancy_v a_o amplification_n than_o suppression_n of_o thing_n to_o their_o advantage_n however_o such_o a_o alm_n as_o a_o kingdom_n can_v not_o but_o make_v a_o noise_n loud_a enough_o to_o reach_v even_o our_o ear_n and_o have_v the_o romescot_n charity_n be_v extend_v to_o the_o regality_n we_o must_v have_v hear_v of_o it_o as_o well_o as_o of_o private_a house_n by_o the_o way_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a what_o comment_n have_v be_v make_v on_o that_o alm_n but_o i_o think_v it_o not_o convenient_a to_o lose_v time_n in_o confute_v they_o it_o be_v to_o give_v they_o more_o credit_n than_o they_o deserve_v for_o he_o enhance_v the_o value_n of_o trifle_n who_o treat_v they_o like_o thing_n of_o moment_n the_o memory_n of_o passage_n since_o the_o heptarchy_n be_v too_o fresh_a and_o too_o minute_n to_o leave_v place_n for_o suspicion_n that_o a_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n shall_v escape_v unobserved_a and_o beside_o there_o be_v among_o the_o work_n of_o lanfranc_n a_o letter_n of_o william_n the_o conqueror_n to_o pope_n gregory_n vii_o which_o put_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n that_o pope_n have_v the_o confidence_n to_o demand_v of_o that_o king_n a_o acknowledgement_n of_o subjection_n fidelitatem_fw-la or_o fealty_n as_o the_o phrase_n run_v i_o know_v not_o upon_o what_o ground_n for_o though_o i_o have_v read_v somewhere_o that_o the_o conqueror_n to_o gain_v the_o pope_n to_o his_o side_n when_o he_o attempt_v the_o enterprise_n promise_v in_o case_n of_o success_n to_o hold_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o pope_n vii_o ep._n lanfranc_n vii_o yet_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o king_n answer_n that_o he_o be_v mistake_v who_o say_v so_o fidelitatem_fw-la facere_fw-la nolui_fw-la nec_fw-la volo_fw-la say_v the_o king_n quia_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la promisi_fw-la nec_fw-la antecessores_fw-la meos_fw-la antecessoribus_fw-la tuis_fw-la id_fw-la fecisse_fw-la comperio_fw-la so_o that_o till_o the_o conquest_n england_n be_v free_a and_o that_o it_o become_v subject_a since_o sure_a no_o body_n will_v imagine_v the_o first_o king_n of_o the_o norman_a race_n be_v man_n of_o too_o great_a spirit_n and_o contest_v with_o the_o pope_n about_o matter_n of_o less_o importance_n too_o warm_o to_o be_v suspect_v of_o give_v away_o their_o kingdom_n he_o that_o reflect_v what_o bustle_v there_o be_v about_o investiture_n in_o the_o day_n of_o henry_n i._o and_o immunity_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o day_n of_o henry_n ii_o will_n find_v it_o neither_o likely_a nor_o possible_a the_o great_a right_n of_o the_o crown_n shall_v be_v throw_v away_o while_o prince_n be_v so_o tenacious_a of_o the_o less_o it_o be_v true_a that_o both_o these_o king_n yield_v at_o last_o to_o the_o pope_n but_o with_o a_o condescendence_n so_o far_o from_o any_o sign_n of_o subjection_n that_o there_o be_v more_o of_o appearance_n than_o substance_n in_o the_o first_o case_n and_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o caution_n in_o the_o second_o no_o subjection_n nor_o show_n of_o any_o in_o either_o the_o contrast_n between_o henry_n i._o and_o the_o pope_n be_v about_o investiture_n the_o king_n desirous_a to_o continue_v the_o custom_n of_o ratify_v the_o election_n of_o bishop_n and_o abbot_n by_o deliver_v a_o ring_n and_o staff_n to_o the_o elect_n and_o the_o pope_n resolve_v to_o break_v it_o the_o conclusion_n be_v that_o the_o ceremony_n shall_v no_o more_o be_v use_v but_o so_o that_o the_o king_n shall_v choose_v or_o cause_n to_o be_v choose_v the_o person_n and_o receive_v homage_n from_o he_o that_o be_v choose_v investituram_fw-la annuli_fw-la &_o baculi_fw-la indulsit_fw-la in_o perpetuum_fw-la retento_fw-it tamen_fw-la electionis_fw-la &_o regalium_fw-la privilegio_fw-la say_v will._n malmsbury_n upon_o the_o same_o term_n 5._o in_o hen._n 1._o lib._n 5._o a_o few_o year_n after_o the_o same_o difference_n be_v compound_v with_o the_o emperor_n in_o which_o if_o i_o understand_v any_o thing_n the_o same_o expedient_a be_v then_o use_v which_o be_v general_o observe_v since_o to_o preserve_v reputation_n and_o appearance_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o substance_n to_o prince_n for_o while_o they_o have_v the_o chief_a influence_n in_o election_n and_o none_o can_v be_v promote_v but_o by_o their_o interposition_n the_o rest_n be_v a_o ceremony_n which_o may_v without_o any_o great_a prejudice_n be_v leave_v off_o again_o when_o the_o person_n elect_v be_v by_o homage_n to_o acknowledge_v themselves_o subject_n to_o their_o prince_n they_o have_v as_o much_o as_o they_o desire_v indeed_o till_o this_o point_n be_v yield_v by_o the_o pope_n for_o it_o be_v a_o while_n stiff_o stand_v upon_o no_o agreement_n can_v be_v make_v but_o after_o peace_n soon_o follow_v the_o quarrel_n of_o henry_n ii_o be_v about_o the_o custom_n of_o clarendon_n in_o which_o the_o chief_a point_n be_v that_o of_o appeal_n this_o point_n the_o pope_n gain_v of_o the_o king_n yet_o with_o this_o caution_n that_o the_o appellant_n shall_v give_v security_n to_o attempt_v nothing_o to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o king_n or_o kingdom_n it_o be_v now_o a_o time_n if_o ever_o for_o the_o pope_n supreme_a lordship_n to_o appear_v he_o be_v in_o the_o humour_n of_o assert_v at_o least_o all_o that_o belong_v to_o he_o the_o world_n be_v incense_v against_o the_o king_n for_o the_o foulness_n of_o the_o late_a murder_n and_o ready_a to_o take_v the_o pope_n part_n the_o king_n find_v it_o necessary_a to_o buy_v his_o peace_n even_o at_o the_o rate_n of_o pretension_n very_o dear_a to_o he_o and_o for_o which_o he_o have_v long_o and_o earnest_o contend_v have_v the_o pope_n be_v supreme_a lord_n he_o will_v hardly_o have_v escape_v so_o good_a cheap_a murder_n and_o sacrilege_n may_v have_v cost_v he_o the_o whole_a kingdom_n for_o feudatory_a land_n be_v forfeit_v by_o great_a crime_n however_o this_o supreme_a dominion_n must_v needs_o have_v appear_v in_o the_o transaction_n the_o king_n be_v not_o in_o case_n to_o refuse_v any_o thing_n due_a to_o the_o pope_n who_o yield_v up_o what_o till_o then_o he_o think_v not_o due_a and_o beside_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o agreement_n must_v have_v be_v quite_o different_a and_o draw_v in_o term_n use_v betwixt_o vassal_n and_o lord_n but_o instead_o of_o a_o acknowledgement_n of_o this_o nature_n all_o the_o disadvantage_n the_o king_n have_v in_o treat_v can_v not_o prevail_v with_o he_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n so_o much_o as_o pope_n long_o than_o the_o pope_n shall_v acknowledge_v and_o treat_v he_o as_o king_n so_o that_o by_o the_o favour_n of_o the_o cardinal_n act_n this_o king_n leave_v the_o crown_n as_o free_a as_o he_o find_v it_o nor_o can_v the_o king_n be_v yet_o find_v out_o on_o who_o the_o suspicion_n shall_v fall_v of_o have_v make_v it_o subject_a if_o i_o be_o not_o much_o mistake_v the_o pope_n in_o those_o day_n be_v of_o a_o judgement_n very_o different_a from_o that_o which_o baronius_n have_v take_v up_o in_o we_o for_o how_o can_v the_o conceit_n of_o a_o vassalage_n in_o the_o time_n of_o this_o king_n consist_v with_o what_o happen_v a_o little_a after_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o k._n john_n neither_o can_v k._n john_n make_v england_n tributary_n if_o it_o be_v so_o before_o neither_o can_v the_o pope_n desire_v he_o shall_v beside_o disobedience_n in_o a_o vassal_n and_o what_o be_v more_o stubborn_a contra_n with_o a_o supreme_a lord_n especial_o when_o that_o supreme_a lord_n be_v the_o pope_n will_v sure_o have_v be_v think_v as_o great_a a_o crime_n as_o refuse_v a_o archbishop_n make_v without_o his_o privity_n and_o against_o his_o will_n why_o be_v not_o this_o lay_v to_o the_o king_n charge_n and_o call_v rebellion_n when_o the_o severity_n of_o the_o proceed_n against_o he_o perhaps_o need_v all_o the_o colour_n which_o can_v be_v lay_v on_o without_o all_o doubt_n the_o pope_n when_o he_o have_v the_o king_n at_o his_o mercy_n will_v never_o have_v be_v content_v with_o the_o bare_a acknowledgement_n of_o subjection_n if_o he_o have_v know_v subjection_n be_v due_a before_o he_o have_v prosecute_v the_o king_n to_o the_o utmost_a extremity_n interdict_a the_o kingdom_n excommunicate_v his_o person_n and_o at_o last_o depose_v and_o
a_o little_a how_o the_o world_n have_v go_v and_o go_v with_o those_o who_o gratify_v you_o in_o this_o matter_n what_o be_v the_o event_n of_o that_o unwearied_a constancy_n which_o the_o learned_a withrington_n show_v in_o it_o he_o lose_v his_o good_a name_n his_o friend_n all_o comfort_n of_o life_n all_o sweetness_n of_o society_n with_o those_o of_o his_o own_o communion_n and_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o liberty_n from_o you_o but_o live_v and_o die_v a_o prisoner_n walsh_n succeed_v he_o in_o learning_n in_o fidelity_n in_o constancy_n and_o in_o all_o likelihood_n fortune_n he_o have_v appear_v so_o far_o in_o this_o business_n that_o i_o believe_v he_o think_v it_o not_o safe_a to_o appear_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o world_n where_o the_o pope_n bear_v sway_v and_o yet_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v have_v as_o little_a security_n at_o home_n as_o abroad_o his_o liberty_n and_o life_n be_v at_o the_o mercy_n of_o every_o informer_n it_o not_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o judge_n before_o who_o he_o shall_v be_v bring_v to_o save_v he_o from_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v for_o treason_n harold_n be_v another_o who_o have_v appear_v in_o this_o cause_n with_o the_o same_o success_n he_o live_v confine_v in_o a_o convent_n of_o his_o own_o order_n in_o or_o near_a brussels_n because_o he_o refuse_v to_o retract_v the_o irish_a remonstrance_n without_o a_o express_a save_n of_o fidelity_n to_o his_o king_n this_o by_o the_o congregation_n de_fw-fr propaganda_fw-la at_o rome_n be_v judge_v a_o captious_a exception_n and_o the_o man_n be_v by_o the_o internuncio_n of_o brussels_n confine_v against_o his_o will_n and_o notwithstanding_o the_o permission_n of_o his_o own_o superior_n to_o retire_v elsewhere_o coppinger_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o regular_a remonstrant_n in_o ireland_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o other_o and_o those_o many_o and_o grievous_a vexation_n be_v either_o actual_o banish_v by_o the_o late_a proclamation_n against_o bishop_n and_o regulars_n or_o live_v in_o extreme_a danger_n and_o fear_v of_o be_v discover_v and_o expose_v to_o the_o law_n by_o those_o who_o hate_v they_o for_o their_o constancy_n to_o the_o remonstrance_n and_o this_o be_v the_o sit_v of_o all_o who_o gratify_v you_o with_o those_o testimony_n of_o loyalty_n which_o you_o be_v perpetual_o urge_v time_n be_v when_o you_o object_v against_o i_o that_o we_o have_v a_o unintelligible_a way_n of_o government_n among_o we_o permit_v i_o to_o say_v i_o can_v as_o little_o understand_v you_o he_o be_v a_o wise_a prince_n who_o cause_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o be_v make_v with_o design_n to_o distinguish_v the_o dangerous_a principle_n which_o he_o think_v concur_v to_o the_o powder_n treason_n from_o other_o which_o be_v innocent_a who_o can_v understand_v why_o those_o who_o by_o that_o distinction_n be_v find_v on_o the_o right_a side_n shall_v always_o be_v in_o worse_a condition_n than_o those_o who_o be_v on_o the_o wrong_n do_v k._n james_n or_o the_o parliament_n when_o they_o establish_v a_o distinction_n by_o law_n mean_v to_o find_v out_o the_o innocent_a by_o their_o distinction_n that_o they_o may_v be_v the_o worse_a for_o their_o innocence_n to_o impute_v danger_n and_o treason_n to_o one_o part_n and_o punish_v both_o and_o the_o not-dangerous_a and_o not-traitor_n more_o for_o so_o they_o be_v though_o not_o by_o you_o this_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o your_o distinction_n though_o sure_o it_o be_v never_o the_o design_n the_o act_n seem_v make_v to_o distinguish_v the_o treason_n for_o which_o you_o say_v we_o suffer_v from_o the_o religion_n for_o which_o you_o say_v we_o do_v not_o and_o when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o exempt_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o traitor_n who_o by_o this_o act_n be_v exempt_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o treason_n withrington_n be_v no_o traitor_n his_o action_n and_o writing_n clear_v he_o sufficient_o walsh_n be_v no_o traitor_n on_o the_o contrary_n he_o have_v give_v proof_n of_o fidelity_n which_o few_o can_v and_o few_o perhaps_o will_v and_o yet_o the_o law_n look_v on_o he_o and_o may_v to_o day_n or_o to_o morrow_n pass_v on_o he_o as_o a_o traitor_n true_o it_o be_v not_o intelligible_a at_o least_o to_o my_o dulness_n how_o it_o shall_v be_v for_o your_o interest_n that_o thing_n shall_v be_v carry_v in_o this_o manner_n this_o i_o know_v that_o while_o they_o be_v so_o few_o will_v comply_v with_o you_o i_o mean_v where_o with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n they_o may_v for_o hope_n and_o fear_n be_v the_o main_a motive_n which_o carry_v human_a nature_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v expect_v people_n shall_v gratify_v you_o when_o they_o have_v nothing_o to_o hope_n and_o more_o to_o fear_v than_o when_o they_o do_v not_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o think_v you_o very_o unreasonable_a to_o quarrel_v at_o i_o for_o be_v conceal_v and_o single_a at_o least_o i_o be_o not_o so_o unreasonable_a as_o to_o court_v any_o man_n by_o join_v with_o i_o to_o run_v the_o fate_n of_o walsh_n and_o withrington_n and_o will_v avoid_v it_o myself_o as_o long_a as_o i_o can_v i_o relish_v not_o their_o uncomfortable_a condition_n find_v it_o uncomfortable_a enough_o to_o live_v in_o perpetual_a fear_n of_o the_o law_n but_o i_o declare_v they_o shall_v not_o take_v hold_n on_o i_o for_o treason_n for_o i_o again_o disclaim_v those_o position_n which_o you_o say_v be_v treasonable_a more_o i_o can_v and_o will_v say_v to_o you_o if_o none_o see_v my_o letter_n but_o yourself_o but_o thus_o much_o i_o profess_v to_o all_o the_o world_n and_o beside_o that_o i_o be_o your_o very_a humble_a servant_n this_o follow_a quotation_n out_o of_o dr._n h._n ferne_n late_a bishop_n of_o chester_n shall_v have_v be_v insert_v with_o those_o other_o quotation_n take_v out_o of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n etc._n etc._n which_o you_o have_v before_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o protestant_a gentleman_n letter_n pag._n 7._o but_o the_o book_n of_o the_o say_a dr._n ferne_n which_o have_v it_o come_v not_o to_o hand_n soon_o enough_o to_o insert_v it_o there_o and_o yet_o be_v so_o direct_o and_o full_o to_o purpose_n i_o will_v not_o omit_v give_v it_o here_o i_o believe_v and_o do_v suppose_v there_o be_v some_o popish_a priest_n who_o in_o the_o simplicity_n of_o their_o heart_n and_o out_o of_o mere_a conscience_n of_o religion_n do_v labour_n the_o propagation_n of_o it_o whilst_z other_o more_z direct_o be_v guilty_a of_o seditious_a and_o treasonable_a practice_n it_o be_v my_o wish_n there_o can_v be_v a_o distinction_n make_v between_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o that_o the_o punishment_n which_o the_o law_n adjudge_v all_o priest_n to_o that_o be_v find_v within_o the_o land_n may_v only_o fall_v upon_o they_o who_o be_v indeed_o guilty_a of_o such_o practice_n which_o be_v so_o frequent_o find_v in_o their_o predecessor_n and_o the_o state_n be_v not_o able_a to_o distinguish_v between_o they_o who_o be_v all_o missionary_n of_o rome_n cause_v those_o law_n to_o be_v make_v for_o the_o security_n of_o prince_n and_o state_n and_o if_o they_o that_o come_v into_o the_o land_n without_o any_o treasonable_a intent_n do_v suffer_v for_o it_o they_o must_v thank_v their_o fellow_n as_o the_o abovementioned_a secular_o do_v the_o jesuit_n who_o restless_a attempt_n force_v the_o state_n to_o forbid_v they_o all_o entrance_n into_o the_o land_n under_o pain_n of_o treason_n to_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o religion_n nor_o the_o function_n nor_o any_o ministerial_a act_n belong_v to_o it_o that_o be_v punish_v in_o romish_a priest_n but_o treason_n and_o seditious_a practice_n to_o which_o religion_n sacrament_n ministry_n of_o reconciliation_n and_o all_o that_o be_v repute_v holy_a be_v make_v to_o serve_v and_o all_o this_o to_o advance_v and_o secure_v the_o papal_a usurpation_n dr._n h._n ferne_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v certain_a consideration_n of_o present_a concernment_n touch_v this_o reform_a church_n of_o england_n print_a in_o london_n 1653._o chap._n 5._o paragraph_n 9_o pag._n 169._o finis_fw-la the_o fifteen_o and_o sixteenth_o of_o the_o controversial_a letter_n or_o grand_a controversy_n concern_v the_o pretend_a temporal_a authority_n of_o pope_n over_o the_o whole_a earth_n and_o the_o true_a sovereign_n of_o king_n within_o their_o own_o respective_a kingdom_n between_o two_o english_a gentleman_n the_o one_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o other_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n london_n print_v for_o henry_n brome_n at_o the_o gun_n and_o benjamin_n take_v at_o the_o ship_n in_o st._n paul_n churchyard_n 1679._o friend_z i_o have_v get_v a_o new_a flea_n in_o my_o ear_n which_o you_o must_v needs_o pull_v out_o it_o be_v like_a enough_o my_o importunity_n may_v not_o be_v over-welcom_a and_o you_o