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A90515 A messenger from the dead, or, Conference full of stupendious horrour, heard distinctly, and by alternate voyces, by many at that time present. Between the ghosts of Henry the 8. and Charls the First of England, in Windsore-Chappel, where they were both buried. In which the whole series of the divine judgments, in those infortunate ilands, is as it were by a pencil from heaven, most lively set forth from the first unto the last.; Nuntius a mortuis. English. Perrinchief, Richard, 1623?-1673.; Henry VIII, King of England, 1491-1547.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649. 1658 (1658) Wing P1597; Thomason E936_4; ESTC R203144 12,116 19

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Justice for my Impiety I divorced my self from my lawfull wife and pretended Law for it On the same account I brought the goods of divers men into my Treasury whosoever opposed me I impeached them of Treason and caused them to suffer accordingly for it therefore when I did acts of unrighteousness and pretended Law I ought not to wonder if I my self should suffer punishment in the same nature Charls Should a King suffer by his Subjects Henry We deserve greater punishments because we commit greater offences they offend against a mortall King we against a King immortall but could not you unless by the divine providence you were destined to be a Sacrifice for the expiation of the Crimes of your predecessours and your own could you not by your own power dissolve the Parliament and so bring about your own Counsailes for the managing of the affaires of the Nations according to your own will Charls I told before that I had dissolved many sever all Parliaments but understand what followed My native Subjects the Scots did by force of Armes invade England and whiles I staid at York to carry on with more vigour the Affaires of the War the Lord of Kimbolton did present me with a Petition to which twelve of the Nobility had set their hands When king Henry had heard the name of Kimbolton he fetched a déep sigh as if from the bottome of his heart and said Henry Ah! At Kimbolton it was that the most excellent Mirrour of her sex and the Example of all Vertues my first wife Queen Katharine dyed whom I divorced from my bed that I might bring into it Anne Bollen an incontinent woman whom not long afterwards being taken in adultery I caused to be beheaded by the common Hangman That this divoree from my first wife contrary to all laws both divine and humaine might remaine unquestioned being not able to defend one wickedness but by another I did assume unto my self to govern this nation by an Arbitrary power which was the original of all the calamities that have since befallen either to my self or you or to our unfortunate Kingdomes Charls Having rashly as I have said estranged my selfe from the love of my English Subjects and finding the Scots to grow more and more upon me I was inforced to make use of those Counsailes which I thought most expedient for my present safety I observed that my dissolution of so many Parliaments called to give redress to the sufferings and complaints of the people was one of the greatest reasons that at first did pull upon me their suspition and afterwards their hatred they feared also that I would introduce amongst them an Innovation of Religion which laying a force upon their Consciences they accounted the greatest tyr any that could be in the world therefore to give them a plenary and a thorough satisfaction on the one side and to be discharged of the Scots Army on the other side I gave order that a Parliament should be called againe not to be dissolved by me without their own liking and approbation To this many of the most apparent of my Counsaile did readily agree with me and amongst others my own kinsman the unfortunate Duke of Hamilton Henry You were more tame beleeve me then I would have bin had it bin in my time my subjects should have found I would have dealt more roundly with them but I most plainly do perceive that the measure of my iniquities was compleated in you my successour and the divine vengeance did mark you out for destruction The houses got by me by violence and rapine must be pluckt from you to be established on another that is more worthy of them Were you so weak that when it proceeded so far you could not with largesses and honours procure and confirm unto your self a strong party even in that Parliament Charls I did indeed attempt it but all things did fall out cross to my Expectation for all the Bishops and the Catholick Lords who were faithfull to me were cast forth by the adverse party who were more powerfull and numerous They used their utmost Indeavours to promote my Interests The Catholicks hoped that I would moder ate that severity of the Laws which were made against them by you and Q Elizabeth and King James my Father laying a great penalty on all those who would not acknowledge them to be the supreame Governours in the Territories of their Dominions The Bishops and Prelats were eager to maintaine my cause that so they might preserve their own Dignities and Fortunes that is their Bishopricks and Benefices which seemed otherwise to be in a most ruinous Condition Having by this meanes lost above forty voyces in the upper House those who remained were more flexible and did conforme themselves to the temper and resolution of the rest Henry But could you by no printed papers insinuate into the minds of your Subjects how much you stood devoted to their safety and prosperity When I was resolved to use my Arbitrary power that I might appeare unto the world to undertake nothing by force I caused books to be dictated according to my own pleasure which were presented to me as if they came from the Monks themselves If any refused to subscribe unto them I caused them to be hanged up especially the chiefest of them to be a terrour to the rest Thus when I was pleased to exercise my will I caused divers for fear of Death to subscribe to what I did propound unto them and that so handsomly as if it had been their own motion Charls But I did deal more gently nevertheless being resolved at the last to have recourse to Armes I did betake my self to the Northern part of my Kingdome and having erected the Royall Standard not far from Notingham the most faithfull of my Subjects did from every part of the Kingdome resort unto me whose number in a short time was so great that they hold out a War for above the space of seven years against the Parliament It is remarkeable to see with what resolution above all the rest the Roman Catholicks did adventure their lives and their fortunes for me and that not onely in one field but wheresoever their War made triall of their valour but the Army of the Parliamen prevailed and I being driven to the greatest extremities did betake my self unto the Scots as to my last refuge amongst whom I did not long continue but I was delivered to some of Note in the English Army who carrying me from one place to another have at last brought me hither in this sad Condition wherein you see me Henry The English were alwayes much addicted to their Parliaments in which they found a constant redress for all their greivances it is therefore less to be admired that they revolted from you but how came it to pass that those of your own Nation the Scots should make war against you Charls The Revolt of the Scots was the cheifest cause of my
A MESSENGER From the DEAD OR CONFERENCE Full of stupendious horrour heard distinctly and by alternate voyces by many at that time present BETWEEN THE Ghosts of Henry the 8. and Charls the First of ENGLAND in Windsore-Chappel where they were both Buried In which the whole Series of the Divine Judgments in those infortunate Ilands is as it were by a Pencil from Heaven most lively set forth from the first unto the last London Printed for Tho. Vere and W. Gilbertson and are to be sold at their shops at the sign of the Angel and the sign of the Bible without Newgate 1658. The Messenger from the Dead OR The dreadfull Conference between the Ghosts of HENRY the Eighth and CHARLS the first King of England Henry SAy Who art thou that presumest by a Sacrilegious Impiety to disturbe the ashes of a King which so many years have been at rest When Henry had spoken these words there immediately was heard another voice in a softer but most doleful accent which seamed to be the voice of King Charls expressing himself after this manner Charls I am that unhappy King of England the undoubted heive of sixty and two Monarchs and who did wear my self the Royall Crown two and twenty years and longer Henry What you a King Did you ever wear a Crown on your head who have not a head on your Shoulders Charls I have not alwayes wanted a head my Subjects wo is me did lately bereave me of it Henry Your subjects How could that be What hainous crime have you committed that could inforce your subjects to so great a violence Charls I know not wel what but this I am most confident of that I never did Commit adultery with any woman nor ever defloured any Virgin I never axpelled any man from his House or Lands of all which Henry the Eighth my Predecessor is condemned to be guilty by all the World Here Charls made a little pause to see what answer that Henry would return to him But when he perceived him to be stil silent he thus did prosecute his Discourse My Father being dead strange Rumours were spread of it not long afterwards I marryed with the Daughter of France and in the beginning of my Raign made two unfortunate Wars the one with the Spaniard the other with the French a Parliament being called at Oxford I lost the love of my people for dissolving it at that instant when the Duke of Buckingham was questioned for having a hand in my Fathers Death At this I perceived that the people did repine but I was too constant alwayes to my own Counsailes and although many Parliaments were afterwards called I dissolved them all This inforced me to put unusuall taxes upon my people by which and by the enertainment of the Queen Mother of France a Lady most extreamly hated by the Generallity of the Nation I wonderfully increased their evil opinion of me At the last we did proceed to Armes the Parliament then bearing sway by me not suddainly to be dissolved and the War not thriving with me I was brought to London a Court was called not before heard of and I protesting against the unlawfullness of it and that there was no Power on Earth by which I was to be tryed they passed the sentence of Death on me according unto which I suffered Henry The greatest prejudice that can arrive unto a Prince is the loss of his peoples love And thus my Neece Mary Queen of Scotland having lost the affections of that Nation amongst other things suffered for that Indiscretion by the loss of her head in England but if you are discended from such Kings as you do boast you are had it not been better for you to have your bones to rest amongst them then here to interrupt my peace at Windsor Charls I dying did desire to be buryed at West-Minster but my starres which did shine but Clowdily and obscurely on me in my life were as inauspicious to me at my Death I suffered many things grievous to relate At West-Minster I received my fatal sentence where my Predecessors were accustomed to be crowned At Saint James I was kept in Custody a place much beloved of me by reason of my Child-hood spent there and the many innocent recreations of my youth At White-Hall I was Beheaded the Scaffold being erected before the Doors of the Court and I passed through that place in which I was accustomed to be present at Masks and Showes and at the entertainment of the Ambassadors of forrain Princes Henry Are you Charls the son of King James and do you not yet perceive wherefore you are oppressed with such a weight of affliction do you not plainly perceive the admirable course and tenour of the Divine Justice It was greivous to you to be in custody at S. James because in your tender years you did there delight your self with innocent pastimes Do you not cal to mind how heretofore I seized upon that place by violence As indeed what place was free from my cruelties and oppressions you are not ignorant how most unjustly I brought unto my Exchequer to satisfy my own avarice all the Estates of the Carthusian Bernardine and Cistercian Monks and of all the other Orders but especially of the Order of Saint Benedict whose Lands and revenues were the greatest and whose Covents and houses were the fairest How many innocent men have I imprisoned because they would not be subject to my will It was I that caused some Abbots to be hanged before their own doors to become a terrour to the other Monks Do you not know that even your own Palace was heretofore the House of the Archbishops of York which I extorted from Cardinall Wolsey whom I advanced to great honours and riches whiles I found him a profitable Minister to my lust and afterwards crushed him to peices when I found it to be expedient for my avarice It was I who although I never started from the obedience of the Church of Rome but onely in one particular to satisfy my lust did afterwards compell all the Bishops of the Land to subscribe to what I commanded the Bishop of Rochester onely excepted whom because I could not overcome neither by threatnings nor perswasions I made him shorter by the head Charls But I was never accused of such enormities Must I suffer for the offences of others the stedfastness and unaltered Resolution of my Spirit was never prejudicicall unto any Henry Yes unto your self and to all that had relation to you Besides Flatter not your self He who receiveth money of a Judge for the seat of Judicature perverteth Justice You need not to fear that any private designes or Combinations should dispossesse you of your life for so the punishment would not answer the offence it is expedient and necessary that publick sins should be publickly expiated I afterwards that I began to offend did not act fearfully nor did seek out Corners for the commiting of Iniquity but made pretences of
and in another place Thou shalt destroy their fruit from the Earth and their seed from the sons of men Psalm 12. By wofull experience I do say I have proved the truth of his prophecy for it pleased God to laugh at the vain counsails of men And the same Prophet giveth this reason of it For they imagined Counsailes which they could not bring to pass Psalm 21. For their is no Counsaile against the Lord Pro. 21. As now too late I have learned Will you have me yet further to confirme the truth of this unto you When I was dying I did leave unto my Son EDWARD twelve Tutors all of them Catholicks as I conceived and commanded them to bring him up in the Catholick Religion the Supremacy of the Church onely excepted which I would have him to continue and to reserve unto himself but I who violated the testaments of others and overthrew so many Monuments of Piety did not deserve that my own should be kept Of so many Tutors the Duke of Somerset Unkle to Edward by his mothers side after my Death was Tutor alone unto him and brought him up in that Religion which I forbad him and hated I commanded also that a more sumptuous Monument should be provided for me then was ever raised for any of my Predecessors and as yet I have no Monument at all although of all the Kings of England not one of them had three children that successively swayed the Scepter but my self But alas I need not fear that I shall be ever lost in the memory of men I have purchased to my self an everlasting Name by my enormous offences All sorts of men do strive as it were in emulation who shall hate me most I am become justly odious to the Catholicks because I divided England from the Communion of the Church of Rome I am abhomination to the orders of the Religious because I have extinguished their Charters and themselves and have sold their Lands and houses I am detestable both to the Clergy and the Laity because I have raised a persecution against even the whole Name of Catholicks which continueth to this day The Protestants hate me because through all the course of my life I did pursue them with fire and Sword Luther named me a big-bellied Beast and a Tyrant Calvin hath written bitterly against me and brandeth me in his books as destitute of all fear of God and the shame of men All Lettered men will evermore curse my memory beause I have utterly destroyed such excellent Monuments of Learning and Antiquity that the Christian World can hardly parralell Finally whiles I was alive most men hated me all men feared me no man loved me In my last dayes like Orestes I was tormented with the Consciousness of my sins and desired to reconcile my self to the Church and to make some amends for the injury offered to my wife the latter I did in some part performe for I provided in my will that my Daughter Mary born of Queen Katharine whom before I had disinherited should succeed in the Kingdome if my Son Edward should dye without children Oh how often have I discoursed with my friends of the first but as I deceived many of them heretofore by the same artifice so now I my self became suspected to them all and they grew to be jealous of me and to shun me as diving into their secrets And thus being abandomed by all I dyed without the Communion of the Church repeating oftentimes in my last houre these words We have lost all Being dead I had the same end as Ahab and it is the more remarkable because it was in the Ruines of a Religious house for as my Corps nasty with excessive fatness and too great a Belly was on the way tobe convaied hither the Coffin of Lead in which it was put did crack by chance and opened To soder which a Plummer being sent for my Corps was set down in the said ruines of the house there whiles the Plummer was running from place to place being very busie at his work his dog most greadily did lick the blood that issued from me A Revenge from God for the effusion of so much blood which in my life time I had soilled Charls Do you not now see sufficiently how God hath scourged me in my own person Never think that I have eseaped unpunished Charls This is a sad story indeed and most worthy to be remembered and seriously to be considered of by all posterity Henry But these things which I have rehearsed although they seem greivous to the eares of the living yet they are but meer Delights if they be compared to the Torments which I indure amongst those who inhabite the Regions of Darkness for besides those punishments which I have pulled upon me by my own sins whatsoever evills that my posterity hath committed by my Example it doth increase my sufferings by a new addition Charls I would to God that Flattery had never been heard of in the Courts of Princes would to God that I had never heard that we are above the Law and are to give an account to God onely for what we have committed upon Earth neverthelesse it doth administer some comfort to me that I have made no innovation in Religion I have been above my other Predecessors most gentle to the Catholicks and came neerest to their Religion and used my Supremacy with the greatest moderation And because in my apprehension it was not fit for a Lay-man I committed almost the whole Exercise of the Ecclefiasticall affaires to the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury Henry And have not you observed in these late troubles that none of all the Bishops of England but the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury alone did lose his head Charls Was I guilty of it By his Instigations indeed I shewed more countenance to some practises of the Church of Rome then either my Father did or the Queen your Daughter that raigned before him I confess my self not to be altogether without fault nevertheless I would fain understand being more moderate then any of my Predecessors and more forward then they in the promoting the peace of the Church wherefore I am visited with far more grevous punishments then any of them all Henry Are you still to understand that the jealous God who visiteth the sins of the fathers on the children doth most usually exact the punishments of the most enormous offences on the third of fourth Generation for if the should inflict present punishment upon all sins men would be apt to beleive that they were quickly and easily expiated neither doth the defer the punishment unto so many Generations that the memory of the offender may perish from the Earth and that we could not know for what enormity the pushment was inflicted You are the third King from me and do suffer punishment in the third Generation For although my two Daughters Mary and Elizabeth did raigne successively yet they do make but one Generation with Edward