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A09881 A consideration of the papists reasons of state and religion, for toleration of poperie in England intimated in their supplication vnto the Kings Maiestie, [and] the states of the present Parliament. Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.; Colleton, John, 1548-1635. Supplication to the Kings most excellent Majestie. aut 1604 (1604) STC 20144; ESTC S105148 106,538 134

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all ages estates even a Bamba * These foresooke their lawfull vocation and resigned their power to the Beast Apo. 17.17 King of Spaine Hugo King of Province Rachis King of Lombardie Sigismundus King of Burgundie Veremundus King of Castile Ranimirus King of Aragon Ethelred and Keneredus Kings of Mercia Sigebert Alfred Ceolulphus Egbert Kings of Northumberland Sebba Offa and Jna Kings of England Henrie the fourth King of Denmarke Carlomannus King of Almaine Trebellius King of Bulgarie Cazimirus King of Poland and others Kings b Radegund Queene of Fraunce Margares Queen of Frace-Briget Queen of Sueden Etheldreda Queene of Northumber Sexbi●ga Ethelburga Q Q of West-saxons others Queenes c Lotharius Earle of Romans others Emperours d Richardix wife of Carolus Crassus Emperour Chune gundie wife of Henrie Emperour and others Emperesses l They meane plainely to become Moonkes Nunnes a true effect of Popish superstition and the broade way to Hell to relinqunish the worlde renounce the pleasures delights thereof and devote and binde themselues to a poore chast and obedient life vnder the commaund direction of others Of which m These be the swarmes of Locustes that came out of the smoke of the bottomlesse pit Apoc. 9. religious companies some eate nost she but in time of sickenes only or other necessity and observe both silence and solitarines as do the Benedictines some never eate fleshe at all weare alwaies shirts of haire goe not forth of their Cloysters nor speake to their fellowes but with leaue as do the Carthusians some neither eate flesh egs nor whitmeates fast three parts of the yeere as do the Bonhomes Some n Holy Hypocrites discipline themselues sundrie times in the weeke or daily goe barefoote touch no money haue nothing in proper or in common and beg their food from d●re to dore as do the Capucines some attend the sicke in all diseases assist them with ghostly counsell provide them Sacraments burie their deade bodies as do certaine fraternities some clense vlcers and festered soares nor refuse any office how base loathsome soever about impotēt criples lazars as do the Nūnes of S. Elizabeths order And al these with other divers orders that after another māner labor to mortifie thēselues do good to others lie vpon no other beds but of straw rise at midnight sleepe little spend much time in praier meditation Which are no conditions of life that either a Rom. 13.14 make provision for the flesh in concupiscences or b Galat. 5.16 do seeke to accomplish the desires or c Tisus 3.3 serue the voluptuousnes thereof sinnes which the Apostle forbiddeth but rather formes [o] Will-worship condemned Col. 2 23. of life that d Galat. 5 24. crucifie the flesh with her vices and concupiscences do e Galat. 2.19 naile them to the Crosse with Christ render both f Galat. 6.14 the world crucifide to those that so liue and them to the world Vertues which by the testimonie of the Apostle g Galat. 5.24 make their dooers the servants of Christ and h Galat. 2.20 to liue now not they but Christ in them Effects of no false Religion Resolution of the 29. Reason Popish Religion beginning at Hierusalens increased and spread is selfe into all nations Ergo Popish Religion is true and to be tolerated ANSWERE I To the Antecedent 1 AS the Divell the easier to deceiue beeing transformed into an Angell of light arrogateth vnto himselfe those things which belong vnto GOD Even so doeth his Church that great whore which si●teth vpon the scarlet coloured beast with a cup of gold in her hand ful of abominations and filthines of her fornication that deceaveth the Kings and the inhabitants of the earth challenge vnto her selfe the titles and rights of Christs true Church whereas in deed shee is great Babylon that mother of whoredomes and abominations of the earth Apoc. 17.4.5 2 Popish Religion did not beginne at Hierusalem but at Rome that great citty vpon seaven hils where Antichrist wrought the mysterie of iniquity 3 The Prophecies concerning Christs Church how that some of all nations people tribes and tongues should flocke vnto her do not belong vnto the Popish Church for none shall flocke vnto her but such whose names are not written in the booke of life Apoc. 17.8 4 It was not vnto Popery that the Nations were cōverted but vnto the true Christian religion wherewith Popery hath no communion II. To the Consequence 1 IF Popishe religion had begunne at Hierusalem yet were it not true Religion because it lost the sinceritie of doctrine which was professed and taught at Hierusalem 2 If Popery were so ample as the Suppliāts make their brags it were not therefore true for never was Popery of so many nations so vniversally received as gentilisme was 3 Seeing the Whore of Babylon should sitte vpon manie waters that is rule over many people and cause the Kings and nations of the earth to be drunke with the wine of her fornication as it is Apoc. 17. who seeth not that even Antichristian Papistrie may be countenanced with great shew of vniversalit●e 4 For our partes wee had rather enter into the Arke with eight persons Genes 7. so to be saved then to refuse so to doe with all the world besides and so to be drowned We had rather she out of Sodom with two or three Genes 19. then with all the rest to stay there and to be destroied with fire and brimstone Wee had rather enter in at the straight gate to life everlasting though fewe goe that way Luk 13. then with the Papists walke the broad way which leadeth to destruction Reason of Religion 30 30. REASON OF RELIGION A Religion from a Such as depart from popery are happy blessed Apec 18.4 which Countries either departing or mingling other doctrines with it made present wracke of their former felicities falling either into flatte Apostacie or most lamentable bondage or both The instances are b All these nations were punished for departing from the sincerity of Christian religion not of Poperie The i Theodoreti●● lib. 4 cap. 32. Sozomen lib 6. cap. 37. Goths while they remained Catholike flourished enlarged their territories but becomming Arians were shortly expelled thence by the Hunnes thē Infidels The like and by like occasion befell the k Jornandes de rebus gest Dacians Mysians and Pannonians by invasiō of the Hunnes Gepides Rugians The l Ex Aenea Silvio in Eur. cap 16.17 An●o Sabel Enne 10 lib. 6● ex Chronicis ea●ūdem Nationūs asijsque Historijs Dalmatians Gauls Britannes Spaniards the Africans by superinducing or mixing one the heresie of Manichaeus another the heresie of Vigisātius the third the heresie of Pelagius the fourth the heresie of Priscillian the last the heresie of Donatus with the Catholike religion were conquered and supplanted the Dalmatians