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A91392 The true grounds of ecclesiasticall regiment set forth in a briefe dissertation. Maintaining the Kings spirituall supremacie against the pretended independencie of the prelates, &c. Together, vvith some passages touching the ecclesiasticall power of parliaments, the use of synods, and the power of excommunication. Parker, Henry, 1604-1652. 1641 (1641) Wing P428; Thomason E176_18; ESTC R212682 61,943 101

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