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A90114 O friends! no friends, to King, Church and state. Or, Thames, Twede and Tyne paraell'd [sic] with Romes Tyber and king-poysoning Po. With positions and practices from Rome and from Rhemes, from Edenburgh and Geneva, poiz'd to some purpose, as the case now stands : and, presented to all impartiall patriots and Presbyterians. / By Veridicus, præterea nihil. Veridicus. 1648 (1648) Wing O14; Thomason E432_25; ESTC R203077 17,850 30

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Fredericks in Germany Childerick in France and our English Deborah here in England by five Popes their great Monarch of the Church as they call him supreme under Christ having power in ordine ad Deum in his relation to Christ to depose such Kings and dispose their Kingdomes as once from an Henry to a Rodulph d Petradedit Petro petra Diadema Rodulpho did ever Calvin Danaeus Knox Buchanan Goodman broach any such Doctrine as this which is writ in the blood of Kings by Creswell in his Philopater pag. 194. Molin in his unjust Tractate of Justice Tract 2. Disp 39. p. 149. Saunders in his visible Monarchy lib. 2. cap. 4. pag. 70. Coster in his Enchiridion part 1. pag. 64. and Bellarmine their great Goliah in his fift booke of his Pope cap. 6 7. Secondly what Puritan called Catharist and Novatian in S. Cyprians time and now Presbyterian or Parliamentary yea where did any Synod of the whole Presbytery or Senate of Orthodox Patritians ever absolve all Subjects from all subjection and subordination from all obedience sworne by solemne Oaths from such Princes as the pillars Catterpillars and Proctors for Antichrist in their senslesse senses in their Mints and Forges make Heteticall or Tyrannicall that is to say just and zealous Protestants Oathes being the onely ties and Obligements which Princes have to secure their Crownes and lives when did ever any Puritan unlesse they will make such impure ones as Munster and Familists in Belgia and Straw Cade Tiler and other Rebells in England the scum and froath of men Puritans when I say did they ever unty this Gordian knot as both by their tongues and pens lavish loose and poisonous many of them and not of the meanest fools have attempted as amongst the rest Azorius in his Institutions cap. 15. sexto and Massonius the Lawyer in his Majesty of the Militant Church part 2. lib. 4. pag. 676. Simancha a Bishop in his Institutions T it 23. Sect. 11. Cardinall Tolet in his Instructions or Destructions for his Priests lib. 1. cap. 13. Creswell in his Philopater pag. 194. with Gregory de Valentia upon Aquinas his Sums Disp 1. q. 2. punct 2. p. 463. and Bannes the Schoole-man on this Angelicall Doctor 2. 2. q. 12. Art 2. Conc. 2. the Decretalls of their Popes especially striking with the great Hammer to the mauling of Monarchs as of Gregory the seventh in Gratian Causa 15.9.6 and of Gregory the ninth lib. 5. tit 7. cap. 5. Glossa with all the bleating Calves of Babell such as Allen Parsons Saunders after the roaring bulls of Pius or Impius the fift and Gregory the 9. against Queen Elizabeth as they have been well baited by many a valorous Papistomastix chiefly by Michael Rhemigerus Anno Dom. 1582. as also by him that hath writ the booke called Brutum Fulmen scoffing the Papall paper squibs and Balaams curses in their Excommunications of the French Kings Thirdly howsoever Puritans falsly nick-named that is zealous and Oxthodox Protestants may teach that Princes whether elective or successive subordinated to Lawes divine and humane may be bridled by State Ephorists in their unlimited humours and tumours and kept in as the Hollanders the feared inundations of the Sea within banks chiefly when their surging waves are swell'd by the winds of ill Counsellours and withall as wife men use Law and Physick tanquam ultimum refugium as their last refuge that Subjects se defendendo by that Law which nature dictates selfe-preservation to man birds and beasts may take up defensive rather then offensive armes as endangered David did when he was hunted as a Partridge over the Mountaines by sanguinolent Saul 1 Sam. 22.2 and as Mardocheus and the Jewes stood upon their Guards when their lives were sought and plotted by Haman Esther 9.16 as also in defence of the Municipall Lawes of a Kingdome or for the prevention of the ruination of a Kingdome by the confederacy of home-bred viperous Tyrants and Forraigne intestine enemies yet neverthelesse when did any Presbyter or Patriot excite Subjects as our Jesuiticall Firebrands do to take up armes against a Protestant King and to kill him who ever can by sword pistoll or poison no more sparing him then a Beare or a Wolfe in such cases of Treason in such cases of Injustice Heresie and Tyranny as Satan hatcheth and coddles in their Serpentine heads that is being not wholly leavened with their Romish Leaven worse then that of the Scribes and Pharisees when did ever Edenborough or Geneva send forth such a Trojan horse filled with the armed Greekes of treasonable positions such as are vented or vomited in this kind extant Cum Privilegio by Gregory de Valentia Tom. 3. Disp 2. punct 2. by Simancha in his Institutions tit 23. sect 12.13 by their Rainaldus in his Rosaeus pag. 157. by Bannes on Aquinas 2.2.9.12 art 2. which King-killing and State-firing Tenets of theirs as they took effect in the Rebellions of Henry the 4. in Germany persecuting Henry the Emperour with fire and sword as we may see at large in the Chronicles of Cranzius and Vrspergensis and in Oneale the Irish Rebell against Queene Elizabeth so also in the French bearing Armes against Henry the third deprived of his Crowne by Papall Instigation as we may see in the book Extant of his just abdication pag. 262. with such like bloody Pageants as Paul or Saul the third plaid against our Henry the eighth and six Popes namely Gregory the 13. Sixtus the 5. Verban the 7. Gregory the 14. Innocent the 9. and Clemens the 9. against Henry the 4. of France ere they butchered him and nine Popes even Paul the 4. Pius the 4. Pius the 5. Gregory the 13. Sixtus the 5. Verban the 7. and the 9. Vnclement Clemens and the 9. Nocent Innocent against our Albions Eliza all whose spleens she out-lived Fourthly what Scotch or Genevean Presbyter ever approved or applauded the base and bloody acts of any Traytor against his legall King as Pope Xistus the fift in a solemne Oration amongst his Cardinalls Anno 1589. hiperbolically extolled Jaques Clement assassinating the French Henry as may be seen in the printed pages pag. 3. 5. 8. 9. 10. equalizing his fact with the acts of Ehud Judith Harmolaus Timoleon Brutus and other Patriots who rid their Countries of Tyrants as King Edgar rid England of Wolves Fiftly when did the whole Sanedrim of Protestant Patriots in any Country or all the united Classes of Presbyterians ever assume unto themselves these more then humane Titles and prerogatives which are given to the Pope and his Hierarchy by Bertach in his Repertory part 4. in dict Papa by Bozius in the nature and rights of the Church lib. 5. cap. 10. pag. 476. by Muscovius in his Majesty of the Militant Church lib. 1. cap. 1. pag. 26. and by the extant Ceremonies of the Church lib. 1. sect 5. pag. 4. fol. 61. chiefly when did they ever assume to themselves that power which the Canonists
Israel Jer. 26.10 and the Kings of Nineve Joh. 3.7 have ever consulted with usually with as good successe as those that have sleighted them like Rehoboans and preferred young Phaetons Green blades and rash Rawheads before them have had successe thereafter 1 King 12.18.16 yea besides the powers given them by the body of a people by these recited he that consults with Boterus lib. 4. cap. 3. and with Althusius his Politicks from the 193 194. pag. to the 223. pag. shall see these Parliamentary powers in a conglobed body of reforming Censors and Senators to have been very great in all times even equallized with these Magna Consilia great Courts in Spaine and with those great Diets and Assemblies in Germany and the great Court in Paris and that Rota Romana and other places of Judicature amongst the Venetians Polanders Rhagusians and other parts so extolled by that great Beuclark Budaus in his last book of his Senate and by Hottoman in his History of France cap. 10 11. and by Borrheus of the Authority of the great Counsell num 170. yea not to be like Plutarks Lamia quick-sighted abroad and to shut up our eyes at home he that consults with our Oxfords case in his Politicks lib. 3. cap. 5. and with Sir Thomas Smith in his English Government lib. 2. cap. 2. shall receive much satisfaction unlesse he be hoodwinkt how farre a legall Parliament may curb direct or correct what is meerely regall in a Persian humour or Tumour of quod libet licet of every lust for law which is illegall especially by perusing the elaborate paines of our Teologicall Lawyers M. Pryn in the Parliamentary passages in Hungary France Suevia Spaine Italy Bohemia Denmarke Scotland and how farre they have been improved against such Princes as have split the ship of State by misgovernment or dilacerated their people by tyranny or spunged them by injustice such men-Monsters for Monarchs as were once Ecclinus in Sabellicus his Chronicles lib. 8. cap. 3. and Phereus in Tullies Offices lib. 2. and Melancthons Chronologies lib. 2. and Aristobulus in Josephus his Antiquities lib. 13. cap. 18. as also Macrinus Nero Phraates Vedius Pollio and many more whose tyrannies as incurable as cruell are fully related by Tholosanus h Lib. 6. cap. 18. and the French Bodin i Lib. 2. cap. 6. in their Common-wealths by Lipsius k Lib. 6. cap. 5. and Danaeus l Lib. 6. c. 3. in their Politicks by Valerius m Lib. 9. c. 14. and Aelianus n Lib. 13. 14. in their Histories Melancthon in his Chronicles lib. 4. and Gorlicius in his Politicall Axioms Axiom 16. these with many more o The three Herods Maximium Antiochus Adonizebeck Scylla Dionisius how farre they have been crossed limited bridled censured in the severest manner all may better drink at the fountaines heads and be satisfied in their scruples by consulting the large Tracts of the Authors quoted then by my poor pitchers if I should draw ought or lap ought from them as Poets in another streame out of Homers bason These things being thus premised it being extra alam without both the sphaere of my purpose and not correspondent to the title of this Tractate to discusse this maine controverted point how farre Regality turned to Tyranny may be opposed or deposed about which most Civilians yea Divines also are as much divided pro contra as the Poetized Deitles in Homer and Virgil about the Grecians and the Trojans some siding with the one some with the other Mulciber in Trojam pro Troja stabat Apollo so that I may hoc agere keep me only to my proposed and intended point to cleare our English Thames and Scotch Twede from running in such sanguinolent streames of regall and legall blood estused both by guns and gownes in war and peace as some lay to their charge in such Torrents and Heeatombes as have run daily from Po and Tiber to the turning all States where Jesuits have acted into red seas of blood and washed Protestant Princes out of their Thrones for which cause to open the eyes of the blinded Baalites and to stop the mouths and blunt the horned pens of such blatrant beasts as Jurwicius in his booke of the Professors of the fift Gospell of Possevine in his booke of the Atheisme of Protestants of Rainolds in his Calvins Turcisme of Gifford in his Preface before that book of Feverdentius upon Jude of Turner in one of his Orations against Queen Elizabeth of Cocleus Bolsecus Eudaemon Scurrilous Kellison in his Survey and other Romish Rabshekahs who divulge all puritanicall Protestants no better then Atheists worse then Turks Jewes worst of Heretikes in the Church worst of Traytors and Catilnarians in all States Lisymachus Nicanor stretching much to parallel them in the last with the worst of Pontificians in his Invectives either for a larger Rotchet like Parsons once and Eccius or for a Cardinalls Hat or for a Miter with Wolsey however the former imputations be abundantly cleered and retorted upon themselves by Doctor Willet in his Tetrastilon by Gabriel Powell and Doctor Beard in their learned bookes of Antichrist by Mr. Squire upon the Thessalonians Doctor Sutcliffe in his Turkish Papisme Doctor Feild in his fift book of the Church and many more yet to quench this last brand cast upon both our Patriots and Presbyterians of being as small friends nay as intestine foes to all Caesars and their safeties as the most malignant Massemongers pestilent Priests and Jebusiticall Jesuites as fire may come forth from the repercussions of slint and steele I desire to light a candle of truth to all sorts from our Dan to Bersheba yea to this present and to future ages throughout Europe to see the evident difference as much betwixt them as betwixt Wolves and Lions Doves and Serpents in these subsequent positions practises postures and passages propounded in these Queres First what Belgick Scotch or English Puritan no not Browne Penry nor Martin Mar Prelate ever preached or printed that Princes if they be Heretikes and Tyrants of Papists new minting and moulding that is contradictory in judgement and practice to every novell Opinion Idolatry Superstition and Heresie in their Hierarchy not downe right for the Antichristian Papacie but chiefly if so opposite to them and their Dotages in Doctrine and Discipline that they seeke to resist crush or curb their blasphemies by Statute Lawes Edicts Mulcts Decrees Exiles Imprisonments as Christian Emperours have done what ever Anabaptists and Libertines blatter to the contrary as appeares by Eusebius in his life of Constantine lib. 3. cap. 62.63 Ambrose in his Explication upon Luke cap. 15. as also by Augustine in his 48. Epist and some Constitutions of the two Theodosians and others in the Common Law c Vide Theodos l. 1. cod de Trinitate Cunctis cap. de Haeret that then as absolute Tyrants they may eo nomine be deposed being first excommunicated as were the Othoes Henries and