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A34212 A missive to His Majesty of Great Britain, King James written divers yeers since by Doctor Carier ; conteining [sic] the motives of his conversion to Catholike religion ; vvith a notable fore-sight of the present distempers both in the church and state of His Majesties dominions, and his advice for the prevention thereof. Carier, Benjamin, 1566-1614.; Strange, N., 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625. 1649 (1649) Wing C572; ESTC R8830 50,068 94

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