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A30032 New Rome unmask'd and her foundation shaken by a farther discovery of the grand errors, deep hypocrisies, popish practices, and pernitious principles of the teachers and leaders of the people call'd Quakers : containing also a brief answer to three books wrote by G. Whitehead, one of her chief cardinals ... against Fran. Bugg ... : as also a brief narrative between the said G. Whitehead and Fran. Bugg ... / by Francis Bugg. Bugg, Francis, 1640-1724? 1692 (1692) Wing B5378; ESTC R34387 122,825 141

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might not G. W. as well carp at the Apostle Paul's words 1 Cor. 6.12 where he said All things are lawful unto me but all things are not expedient All things are lawful for me but I will not be brought under the power of any Might not G. W. say How now Paul what are all things lawful to thee what is this that and the other thing lawful for I find no distinguishing word in the whole Verse But in the next Verse G. W. may see the Apostle only meant indifferent things which some differed about and which he left them to their liberty in as meats c. for some eat herbs and others strong meats viz. ver 13. Meats for the belly and the belly for meats but God shall destroy both it and them c. So that eating Flesh Fish Herbs or other things this that or the other day the publishing Marriage before or not before the Womens Meetings are things in their own Nature indifferent and free and according to the Apostles and Martyrs words we ought to be left free in the use of them THE THIRD CHARGE THAT GEORGE WHITEHEAD IS A FAVOVRER OR AN EXCVSER OF SVCH PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICES AS BORDER VPON BLASPHEMY AND IDOLATRY For the Proof of this Charge I shall before I proceed to the matter of the Conference recite a Parallel between the Practices of the Papists giving Divine Attributes to their Saint Thomas Becket and divers Popes which by all Protestants are accounted Idolatrous and Blasphemous And the Quakers giving and attributing to G. Fox in his Life-time Divine Attributes and Eternal Honour which is equally Idolatrous and Blasphemous and at his Funeral preached him to be the great Apostle Prophet and Jacob of the Age that so it may still appear how nigh of Kin they are giving also a hint of the Beginning Rise and Advancement of both the said Thomas Becket and G. Fox in two Columns for the help of the Reader viz. IT is written of Thomas Becket Guilielmus Neubregensis lib. 2. cap. 16. that his Father was a Brewer in London and a Jew and that from his House began a Fire in the days of King Stephen that consumed all the one side of London from the Bridge where he dwelt unto Temple-Bar And that King Henry II. took this Thomas Becket into his Favour and from being Archdeacon of Canterbury made him Lord Chancellor of England and after that made him Archbishop of Canterbury who after that treacherously and ungratefully as well as secretly resigned his Bishoprick to the Pope * See the Defence of the Apology of the Ch. of England c. p. 349 350 665 c. and of the Pope received it again and thereby betraying his Princes Right which was the cause of much trouble in England But for this and the like holy Cheats he was Sainted and now you shall hear how the poor infatuated Papists give Divine Attributes unto him Oh Christ make us to ascend unto Heaven whither Thomas is ascended even by the blood of Thomas which is shed for thy sake But Dr. Rainolds † See the Conference between Dr. Rainolds and Hart about the Pope's Supremacy p. 411. hath it thus viz. By the Blood of Thomas Which he for thee did spend Make us O Christ to clime Whither he did ascend Thus Reader you see that first Bishop Jewell and next Dr. Rainolds set forth and that in the words of the Papists themselves quoting Book and Page that the poor misled Papists gave such Titles to this their Saint as was due only to Christ himself attributing to Thomas Becket the Title not only of Intercessor but Saviour Again Oh Thomas reach thy help to us Stay them that stand help them that lie Correct our manners deeds and life Guide us unto the way of peace All Hail Oh Thomas the rod of right The Worlds light the Churches strength The Peoples love the Clergies joy All Hail brave Patron of the Flock Save them who on thy Honour glee And yet to excuse these Idolatrous Attributes and Blasphemous Appellations Mr. Harding said thus viz. Christ is used in this Prayer as the only Mediator of Salvation and St. Thomas as a Mediator of Intercession to Christ c. As Mr. Jewell in his Defence p. 349. And Dr. Rainolds in his Conference with Mr. Hart c. p. 411. both evidently set forth Next I come to shew what Names and Divine Attributes the Papists have given to their Popes as may be seen in the Defence of the Apology of the Church of England c. viz. Papa lux venit mundam the Pope is that light that is come into the world p. 570. Our Lord God the Pope And p. 750. to the same purpose and p. 562. In the Pope is all manner of Power p. 438. A Divine Power in the Pope p. 571. A certain Divine Power in the Pope beyond the natural state of men p. 493. Mr. Harding said of the Pope Thou art the Chief of all Bishops Thou art the Heir of the Apostles For Primacy thou art Abel for Government Noah for Patriarchship Abraham for Holy Order Melchisedech for Dignity Aaron for Authority Moses for Judgment Samuel for Power Peter for thy Anointing Christ c. Thus have the Papists not only Idolized their Popes but called them Christ and whatever Name was excellent in Scripture that they gave to their Popes and why it is Scripture language at least to be found in Scripture and therefore as they dreamt due of Right to the Pope c. Thus much touching the Papists giving and attributing Divine Honour to their Popes which was both Blasphemous and Idolatrous IT is written that George Fox came of poor Parentage See the 5th Part of the Christian Quaker disting c. p. 48 49. and was only a Journey-man-Shoemaker and wrought Journey-work with George Gee of Manchester But afterwards when he was a Preacher amongst the Quakers he became Famous and greatly Rich and did not deny being therewith charged but that he had 12 or 1300 l. c. But whether in his Advancement he may be most fitly compared to Thomas Becket or Simon the Sorcerer made mention of in the Acts of the Apostles cap. 8. ver 9 10. viz. There was in the City a certain Man called Simon saying that he himself was some great Man To whom they gave HEED from the LEAST to the GREATEST saying THIS MAN IS THE GREAT POWER OF GOD. I say whether G. Fox was most like this great Man Simon or Thomas Becket I leave to the Reader to judge when he hath heard how G. Fox gave out and that in Print that he was some GREAT MAN even such an one as knew who was a Saint who a Devil and who an Apostate c. pray hear what he said of himself 1st That he had a Spirit beyond all the Forefathers and thereby knew who were Saints who were Devils and who were Apostates without speaking ever a word * See their
But tho Josiah Coals c. Letters to G. Fox be not only Superstitious but Blasphemous and Idolatrous yet you excuse justify and say well done to such Abominations See their 10th Principle You may also see that tho these blessed Martyrs confessed that the Papists once taught sound and pure Doctrine and doubtless did then commend their Practice Conversation and Deportment and accounted such Doctrine so taught a dispensation of the love of GOD to Mankind yet when they saw that they Apostatized from these things and began to impose Transubstation and other Novelties as GOD's Ordinances you see they then forsook them left them And not only so but did hear a full and ample Testimony against their Pride their Haughtiness their infallible Pretentions their grand Errors and deep Hypocrisies not always picking at the Rine but striking at the Root until at last what by disputing what by writing what by printing and with GOD's blessing upon their endeavours the Pope's Authority in England quite expired But oh what sad Bawling the Pope and his Cardinals Priests and Fryers Jesuits and Nuns and all your Kindred made against Luther Barns Jerom of Prague John Huss Philip Melancthon and the rest of that noble blessed and for ever renowned Army calling them Apostates Self condemned Apostates apparent Apostates manifest Apostates contentious Apostates c. And having then the Law of their side which I thank GOD you have not burnt many of them Thus I hope you may see a lively Figure of your selves and also that as I have acquitted my self of that Dilemma which you dreamed you had cast me into I have left you with your Kindred in that Dilemma which nothing but Repentance and Amendment will deliver you from which GOD of his mercy grant you may CHAP. III. Shews a third Reason why forsaking the Quakers is no Apostacy from the Christian Faith FOR it is plain That they deny Christ Jesus who was born of the Virgin Mary who suffer'd without the gates of Jerusalem and rose again and ascended up into Heaven and there sits at the Right Hand of GOD From their 3d Principle making Intercession for us And since they err in this fundamental Article of the Christian Faith Search these Scriptures viz. Mat. 13.16 17. Luk. 10.23 24. cap. 1.42 45 68 69 70. cap. 2.20 to 39. Mat. 2.1 to 12. Mat. 21.5 to 17. Mat. 11.1 to 18. Luk. 19.29 Psal 72.15 17. Zach. 9.9 and that against the Testimony of Men and Angels Holy Scripture and the concurrent Testimony of the Prophets Apostles Martyrs and Confessors from the beginning I upon that foot and upon that bottom account it no Apostacy to forsake such a People who themselves have so apparently erred from the Faith Search these Scriptures and abundance more to confirm this And that they have so erred see their 3d Principle and that it is against Scripture and the Angel's Testimony Luk. 2.10 11 16 20. Mat. 2.25 Acts 18.5 Rom. 14.9 1 Cor. 15.3 John 11.35 read Luke 2.10 11 16 20. Then the Angel said unto them be not afraid for behold I bring you tydings of great joy that shall be to all the people that is that unto you is born this day in the city of David a SAVIOVR which is CHRIST the LORD Now as HE was GOD from all Eternity HE was not born of the Virgin did not hunger was not cold did not dye was not spit upon was not smote with the palms of their hands But as he was God-Man the Man Christ Jesus who was born of the Virgin according to that heavenly Testimony of the blessed Angels Luke 2. he was the SAVIOVR CHRIST THE LORD which you say was but a Garment a Vail a Vessel WHICH YOV CAN NEVER CALL CHRIST * Question to the Professors p. 33. Nay it is said in plain words by George Fox viz. Christ is the substance of all Figures and his FLESH is a FIGVRE † Saul's Errand c. p. 14. This is I confess an uncouth Saying but I will unriddle their meaning viz. CHRIST as HE is the Light they own HIM but as to HIS Flesh that is only a Figure a Garment something or other which People do love and speak well of but as for George Fox and the Heads that know what they say the Flesh is of little value and to confirm this my opinion see Isaack Peningtons one of their most learned and knowing Writers whose works they have taken care to reprint in Folio who saith thus A Question to the Professors p. 33. viz. Now the Scriptures does expresly distinguish between CHRIST and the GARMENT he wore between HIM that CAME and the BODY in which he CAME between the SVBSTANCE which was VAILED and the VAIL which VAILED it There is plainly HE and the' Body in which HE came there was the outward Vessel and the inward Life This we certainly know and can never call the bodily Garment Christ So that 't is plain The Quakers who are certain and infallible in this are of a contrary Spirit to all the Forefathers Prophets Apostles and Christian Professors to this day See Luk. 2.10 11. Zach. 9.9.10 11 Cap. v. 12 13. Math. 2.6 Micah 5.2 Psal 2.7 16.10 Acts 2.22 23 36. 3.13 4.10 and 10.43 according to this their Doctrine the Angels message was only of a Garment that was born it 's true it 's allowed to be a bodily Garment a Vail a Figure c. which they can never call Christ and if they can never call him that was born of the Virgin Mary Christ the consequence unavoidably follows that they can never own him to be Christ the Saviour of the World And to confirm this my sense of their principle to all the People called Quakers I will yet add two Reasons more viz. First In that they never in their publick meetings for worship of God nor yet in their Families make confession of their sins to God asking pardon for Christ Jesus sake This is one reason to confirm their Disciples that their Leaders deny Christ Jesus who was born of the Virgin to be both Lord and Christ Secondly In all their books you never yet found that ever they confessed their Sins and asked Pardon for Christ's sake whereby it is manifest that as thereby they deny Christ as aforesaid so they render themselves of a singular Spirit to all the Prophets Apostles Saints Martyrs and Confessors since the world stood as may be seen by the Scriptures in the Margin beginning with Moses Psal 90. to the very Martyrs Yea Psal 51.2 3. Psal 90. Job 7.20 Lam. 3.41 42. Isa 64.6 Dan. 4.9 to the end 1 John 1.8 1 Tim. 1.15 Rom. 7. so singular that without the breach of Charity I may conclude that instead of having a Spirit given to them beyond all the Forefathers so as to know who are Saints who are Devils and who are Apostates as they have vainly boasted They have a
Remark at present I come next to shew what Slight and Contempt they have cast on the Scriptures in order to invalidate their Certainty and Authority and therein to shew G. W. how they value their unwrit Traditions above the Scriptures both in words as well as in practice as I shall shew anon for I am not picking at the Rine now but plucking at the Root And tho I must confess they are sturdy Oaks yet the Ax that is laid will level them unless they repent which I pray GOD they may if it be his Will Amen First That which is spoken from the Spirit of Truth in any is of as great Authority as the Scriptures and Chapters are and greater Serious Apology page 49. By G. Whitehead in his Serious Apology p. 49. G. Whitehead's Ishmael p. 10. Secondly That which is written is the Letter which is Death and killeth Way to the Kingdom p. 8. Thirdly The Scriptures are a declaration of the Word the Husk Fourthly The Letter of the Scripture is carnal Saul's Errand to Damascus p. 7. and the Letter is Death and killeth In one of their Books * The Quakers Refuge fix'd on the Rock of Ages p. 17. they thus query viz. Whether the first Penman of the Scriptures was Moses or Hermes Or whether both these or not one Or whether there are not many words contained in the Scriptures which were not spoken by Inspiration of the Holy Spirit Whether some words were not spoken by the grand Imposture some by wicked Men some by wise Men ill applied some by good Men ill expressed some by false Prophets and yet true some by true Prophets and yet false Now Reader setting aside the Contempt George Fox George Whitehead and others anciently threw upon the Scriptures as Carnal Dust the Serpent's Meat Husk not of that Authority with what is said to be spoken from the Spirit of Truth and the like I say setting aside THAT what can be the natural Tendency of these Queries but to prejudice the weak Readers against the Authority of the Scriptures especially such who take Examples of them in that they never read a Chapter in their Meetings for the Worship of GOD. If what the true Prophets spake be FALSE If what good Men spake be ILL EXPRESSED If what wise Men spake be ILL APPLIED Then what is there left besides what was spoken by true Prophets good Men and wise Men If there be any as you seem to suggest that 't is spoken by the grand Impostor and by wicked Men and false Prophets c. And if there be some little left that was spoken by true Prophets and is true some by good Men well expressed some by wise Men rightly applied Yet you not having made any distinction who shall know what is true from that which is false that which is well expressed and rightly applied from the contrary since you have left these three wretched Questions unresolved and the Scriptures doubtful ambiguous and uncertain robbing them of that Authority which GOD's People from Age to Age have justly attributed to them As for the five Books of Moses who wrote them Moses or Hermes is now put into the world as a Question Yea whether either or neither be the Author of those Books Yea these very Writings of Moses which I never heard question'd before are now proposed whether Moses or Hermes be the Author of them Now if Moses and Hermes be all one then why is the Query put unless you would have Moses to be Hermes and not Hermes to be Moses And so Moses being lost and Hermes only a Philosopher in Egypt being found the Books going under the Name of Moses's shall be lost also If this was not your mind why do you fill the world with such Atheistical Queries c Christ himself often quoted the Writings of Moses * See Mark 12.16 Luke 16.29 Luke 24.27 Acts 3. Luke 26.27 44. and so did the Apostles I never till now took so much notice of this your wretched Design to bring the Scriptures into Contempt that so you might exalt your own unwritten Traditions and therefore there is Reason enough in this to shew that forsaking the Quakers is no Apostacy from the Christian Faith CHAP. V. Shews that the Forsaking the Quakers is no Apostacy from the Articles of the Christian Faith IN my Book One Blow more at NEW ROME c. I gave six Reasons why I compared the Quakers to New Rome Rome's Sister c. Amongst which one was That they value their unwritten Traditions above the Scriptures five of those six G. W. never touches But that of their valuing their unwrit Traditions above the Scriptures he says is a Lye without giving any one Demonstration c. And therefore to justifie my Charge That you value your unwrit Traditions above the Scriptures I prove thus First it never was from first to last your practice to read any one Chapter of the Bible nor any one Epistle of Paul Peter or any of the Apostles in your Meetings for Worship of GOD when as you have read the Epistles of Robert Sandyland Samuel Cater William Penn George Whitehead and Stephen Crisp with as much Attention and Devotion as the Papists do their Legends and this with what is writ in Chap. IV. is sufficient to prove the Point for I take all which is written in opposition to or in competition with the Scriptures to be unwritten Traditions Now if I can make it first appear that it is a principle of the Papists not to read the Scriptures in their Churches And secondly That it was and is the practice of Protestants to read the Scriptures in their Churches and Assemblies for the Worship of GOD then I hope Geo. Whitehead will not blame me for calling them New Rome who in almost every point follows their Example And also I hope it will be a caution to many of the Quakers to look about them who shall find themselves led by their Teachers into the very Road and High way to Rome before ever they so much as thought of it nay that they are in her very Borders and Territories when they thought all had been well and that they had been as their Teachers tell them and would make them believe even in the Heights of Sion in the Truth and none but THEY and that amongst them ONLY is God known elected before the world began and the like First Then to shew that it was against the principles of the Papists to read the Scriptures in their Churches Mr. HARDING against JEWEL By the Instinct of Satan Defence of the Apol. of Ch. of England p. 580. ye have brought the People from Devotion to careless Idleness from speaking to God with Hearts and Lips to a spiritual Dumbness from Prayers to Chapters from holy Think or silent meeting to unprofitable Hearing Thus much from one of the ablest the Pope had to defend his Errors by which the Reader may observe that