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A17013 English protestants plea, and petition, for English preists [sic] and papists to the present court of Parlament, and all persecutors of them: diuided into two parts. In the first is proued by the learned protestants of England, that these preists and Catholicks, haue hitherto been vniustly persecuted, though they haue often and publickly offered soe much, as any Christians in conscience might doe. In the second part, is proued by the same protestants, that the same preistly sacrificinge function, acknowledgeing and practize of the same supreame spirituall iurisdiction of the apostolick see of Rome, and other Catholick doctrines, in the same sence wee now defend them, and for which wee ar at this present persecuted, continued and were practized in this Iland without interruption in al ages, from S. Peter the Apostle, to these our tymes. Broughton, Richard. 1621 (1621) STC 3895.5; ESTC S114391 56,926 128

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Saint Ihon Baron of Bletsoe and Sr. Henry Carey Lord Hounsdon Qui singuli à pontificia Religione alieni all which were alienated from the popes Religion all which that Queene and her pauculi intimi very fewe that consented vnto her knew by that meanes would giue their voyces in parlament to what shee should desire and not content with this proceeded soe in these indirect courses that as your protestants haue written Cambden Annall pag. 27. plures è protestantibus data opera è comitatibus tum è ciuitatibus burgis fuisse electos Norfolciae ducem Arundeliaeque Comitem inter proceres potentissimos in suam siue rem siue spem Ceciliumque sua solertia suffragia emendicasse The papists complayned that more protestants of sett purpose were chosen out of Countries cyties and burroughts and the Duke of Norfolke and Earle of Arundell moste potent amonge the nobilitie eyther for their owne good or hope by the Queens promises of marriadge or such things and Cecyle by his cunninge had begged voyces And to helpe and further soe bad a cause the Queene herselfe your protestants words openly protested at that tyme in parlament that shee would neuer vexe or trouble the Romane Catholicks concerning any difference in Religion Neyther did this Queene or hir pauculi intimi Cecile and Bacon take this straunge course in hand for dislike of catholick Religion for your Antiquary telleth vs of Q. Elizabeth herselfe ad Romanae Religionis normam sacra audiret saepius confiteretur Missam permisit post mortem Mariae litanias Q. Elizabeth heard masse after the Romane order often went to confession and after Q. Maryes death allowed masse and litanies Cambden in Apparatu pag. 13. The like is as well knowne of those her intimi at that tyme. But they had other little laudable ends by protestant proceedings now thus expressed by your cheifest Antiquary Cambden in Annal. Rer. Anglic in Elizabeth pag. 21.22 Nonnulli ex intimis Consiliarijs in aures assiduè insusurrarunt mollissimo ingenio virgini dum timerent ne animus in dubio facillimè impelleretur actum de ipsa amicis esse conclamatum de Anglia si pontificiam authoritatem in dispensando aut alia quacunque re agnosceret duos pontifices matrem illegittimè Henrico 8. emptam pronuntiasse inde in eorum sententia iam lata Scotorum Reginam ius in Regnum Angliae sibi arrogare pontificem sententiam istam nunquam rescissurum Some of her inward Counsaylors did dayly whisper into her eares beeing a mayden of a moste tractable disposition while they feared least her minde in doubt might most easely bee driuen forward to marry with king Philip of Spayne and soe continue the catholicke Religion that shee and her frendes were vndone if shee should acknowledge the popes authority in dispenseinge or any other matter For two popes had allready pronounced that her mother was vnlawfully marryed to Henry 8. and soe in their sentence denownced the Queene of Scots did challendge right to the kingdome of England And that the pope would neuer recall this sentence And agayne Prospexit huiusmodi matrimonium ex dispensatione contrahendo non posse non agnoscere seipsam iniustis nuptijs natam esse Shee thus perceaued that this marriadge with king Philipp of Spayne her Systers husband to bee by the popes dispensation must needs acknowledge that shee was borne in vnlawfull wedlocke And they knew alsoe that shee remayning a catholicke must seeke for the popes dispensation of this her birth not onely made and declared illegitimate by the pope but by her father himselfe and the whole parlament and Title to the crowne giuen her onely by the will and testament of her father parlament Henr. 8. of Illeg Lady Elizab. against which in this case your protestant h●an thus exclaymeth Howes histor preface in Henry 8. through feare and terror Henry 8. obteyned an Act of parlament to dispose of the right of succession to the crowne and then by his last will and testament K. Henry 8. in his last will and Testam contrary to the law of God and nature conuayes it from the lawfull heires of his eldest sister marryed vnto the kinge of Scotland vnto the heires of Charles Brandon and others his daughter Elizabeth and of these others thereby to haue defeated preuented and supprest the vnquestionable and immediate right from God of our gratious soueraigne kinge Iames as if it had beene in the power of his will or of the parlament to disenherite and preuent the diuine free guift and grace of almightie God by which the kings of this land doe hold their crownes Thus your protestant and priuiledged historians by which is euident that this proceedinge by such exorbitant courses concerning Religiō was not for loue or likinge of their protestant Religion further then yt gaue them licence and libertie to doe and liue as pleased their sensuall appetites which the church and Religion of Rome would not allowe And yett all these sinistre and prophane proceedings not withstandinge to insist in your protestants words in chaungeing Religion in that her parlament Howes historial preface in Q. Elizabeth In this parlament notwithstandinge the presence of the Queene to countenance their bad cause with the apparant likelyhood of hir longe life and hope of issue to succeede her yett the maior part exceeded the minor but in sixe voyces at which time to wringe out consents the Queene openly pronounced that shee would neuer vexe or trouble the Romane Catholicks concerninge any difference in Religion Which promise of hirs was as well performed as that condition of her fathers before of bestoweinge the church reuenewes for as your protestants haue related her persecutions which soe vnprincely and vnchristianely in her name and power of that straunge claymed supreamacie in a woman and such a woman equaled or exceeded those of Nero and Dioclesian infensiue tyrants and enemyes of Christianitie Syr Edwyn Sandes in Relation of the state of Religion And in that parlament yt selfe where shee spake these words and proceeded to cruell inflicted penalties against those Romane Catholicks as all our holy Bishops were depriued imprisoned or exiled soe were all other ecclesiasticall parsons that would not doe as pleased her Stowe histor an 1. Elizab. Holinshed Theater ibid. Cambd. in Annalib Rerum Anglicarum in Elizab. Parlament 1. Elizabeth greate forfaictures and punishments imposed vppon all that should heare masse or not bee present at her new deuised seruice premunire losse of lands goods and perpetuall imprisonment and losse of life alsoe with note of Treason to them that would not acknowledge that spirituall supreame power in her of which shee was soe far vncapable in the iudgment of her owne protestants that diuers of them wrote and published to the world that a woman could not bee a supreame gouernor in things temporall Knoxe Godman and other protest against the Regim of women and they were soe violent herein both in England and
of conscience King Iames in Parlament therefore of himselfe he did not thinke vs worthie to be persecuted or inthralled but rather lightned of those miseries as his next wordes a warrant I was so far from encreasing their burdens with Roboam as I haue so much as either time occasion or lawe could permit lightned them And in his censure against Conradus Vorstius the Dutch heretike recounting the differences betweene protestants and vs hee findeth not one for which we may be persecuted but the contrary At his comming in he set the Catholikes and Priestes at libertie gaue free pardons vnto all of them both priests and others that would sue them foorth and paye foure or fiue Nobles at the moste for them to the Lorde Chancellour In those pardons hee remitted both the guilt and danger from priesthood and much more then any of vs had transgressed in he stiled vs as our dignities discentes or callings were gentlemen priestes or of what degree dignitie or preeminence soeuer he were his belooued subiects which wordes and state are incompatible wtth the name of Treason in those pardons hee pardoned whatsoeuer could be in any rigour interpreted to be within the daunger of that Lawe both our comming into England and abyding and remayninge heere so that by pardon being dead they cannot possiblie be reuiued because the graunt is irreuocable Our comming in was but one indiuiall acte and offence in Lawe and so remitted cannot be offence our continuance and remayning so long as we doe not reiterate it againe by going foorth and comming in the second time is also but one particular singular and indiuidual action without discontinuance one ens fluens as all such not interrupted be an hower a daye a weeke a moneth a yeare a life an age and the like This all philosophie common reason whereon our common law is and must be founded teacheth vs. Thus diuers protestāt good lawyers haue answered thus his Maiestie esteemed when hearing of a priest named M. Freeman put to death for his priesthood by the Iudges of Warwicke soone after his Maiesties comming hither with signe of sorrow answered Alas poore man had he not foure nobles to buye his pardon by which he concluded that a priest being pardoned for his priesthood could not after for being a priest be put to death or tearmed a traytour or indanger his friends and receauers but was a free and lawfull true subiect from that imputation His Maiestie also allowed the times of Constantine for times of true Religion and the Roman Church then and after to be the true our mother Church and not to be departed from Then wee may not so vnder-value the learning and iudgement of our learned and Soueraigne in diuinitie and histories but he well knoweth which no learned man is ignorant of that in the time of Constantine the Church of Rome had the same holy sacrifice of Masse and the same holy sacrifycing priesthood which now it hath which I will hereafter demonstrate by the best learned protestant antiquaries of this nation as also that the Church of Rome at the reuolt of King Henry the 8. was the same in all essential things which it was in that prefixed time of Constantine And to be liberal to my needy protestant contrymen in this case I say that the Church of Rome the Religion of the Priests of England their priesthood and sacrifice of the Masse is the same which were in Rome and in this Iland also in S. Peters time in euery age without interruption since then vnto these dayes of Protestants And if we may beleeue Isaac Casaubon the stipendarie champion for the Protestants of England who saith ab ore regis accepi and haec est Religio Regis Angliae c. Isaac Casaubon contra Cardinal Peron Pag. 50.51.52 I haue it from the Kings mouth this is the Religion of the King this is the Religion of the Church of England The fathers of the Primatiue church did acknowledge one sacrifice in christian Religion that succeeded in the place of the sacrifice of Moses The sacrifice offered by Priests is Christs bodie and the same obiect and thing which the Romane Church beleeueth These and such things troubled the heads of some great Protestant persecutors in England their consciences being guiltie of some-what not good that they coulde not enduer the least clemency of his Maiestie towards his loyall and truest catholike subiects but olde stratagems and tragedies of Queene Elizabeths time must needes be renewed and playde againe to bring not only the Catholikes of England but their holy religion if possiblie it could be done into obloquie especiallie with his gratious Maiestie and thereupon an execrable and most damnable treacherie by gunpowder was to be inuented for a few wicked desperatly minded men to doe whom many protestants tearmed papists although the true Priests and Catholikes of England knew them not to bee such nor can any protestant truely say that any one of them was such a one as their lawes and proceedings against vs name Papists Popish recusants or the like What he was papist or protestant rich or poore noble or vnnoble of Courte or countrey that was inuentor of this horrible deuise I will not discusse but referre all indifferently minded men and of iudgement able to discerne the probable trueth in such a cause to the historie and circumstances thereof as they are set downe by the Protestant historian M. Ed. How 's histor of Engl. in King Iames. But to graunt to our Protestant persecutors for arguments sake that which I may not and they will as hardly proue that this wicked interprise was first inuented by Catesby and some of his consorts and that diuers of them were papists and had acquaintance with the chiefe Iesuite then in England who at least in confession knew of this conspiracie did not reueale it that there were foure of this cōpanie arraigned for the conspiracie three gentlemē though two of these Fauxe and Keyes were but seruing men as the fourth Thomas Bates styled yeomā that one Knight and three Esquires concealed it of which the Knight was so ignorant that as the Protestant relator of this matter saith at his death he spake these wordes Howes supr in Sir Edward Digby If he had knowne it first to haue bene so fowle a treason he would not haue concealed it to haue gayned a world Which he could not haue truely said if he had knowne it in particular in it selfe a most horrible damnable thing and the rest as this author writeth dyed penitent and besought all Catholikes neuer to attempt such a bloodie acte being a course which God did neuer fauour nor prosper Those that were vp in tumult with Catesby were as the Protestants relateth Howes supr neuer full fourscore strong besides many of their houshold seruants no doubt papists if their maisters were so forsooke them how erlie yet they diuulged many detestable vntruths against the king state
temporall councellours then these were by their owne creation the Dukes of Sommerset and Northumberland called Protectors to the young king Stow and Holinsh. and Theater K. Edw. 6. and Q. Marie the first basely put to death in that time for felonie the other for treason and open rebellion against Q. Marie And after hee had bene thus with Cranmar the chiefe instrument to ouerthrowe Catholike Religion and set vp Protestancie in the time of that yong king hee plainely recanted his new faith and was reconciled to the Church of Rome And yet among these vnworthie men vnder that yong king there were but 6. Bishops and 6. others that made the Church-bookes of their religion thē Statut. An. 3. Edw. 6. cap. 12. Foxe Stowe and others in Edw. 6. and for religion it selfe they had no Canons articles or decrees of it in all the time of that king Howe 's your historian thus writeth of it Edward at nine yeares of age succeeded his father and then the Church vvas fleest againe the Bishoprickes cut and pared all Chantries supprest the Bishoppricke of Durrham allienated By all vvhich the Kings Exhequer vvas very litle enriched neither vvas the common vvealth eased or benefited nor the auntient nobilitie any vvay dignified onely some fevv preferred The Earldome of Northumberland giuen to the Suttons vvho obtayned the title of the Duke of Northumberland In the first and second yeare of his raigne the Masse vvas vvholly supprest and part of King Dauids Psalmes vvere turned into english verse by Hopkins and Sterneholde Groomes of the Kings chamber and set them to seuerall tunes consisting of galliards and measures The Duke of Sommerset vncle to the King by the mothers side being the Kings Protector did all things in the Kings name and inclyned ouer-much to the subtile counsel of his secret enemie the Duke of Northumberland vvho vvas fully bent to defeat and suppresse the apparant heires of God and nature vnto the Crovvne and to preferre the heires of the Duke of Suffolke according to the iniurious determination of k. Henrie the eight For the better effecting vvhereof they made a combination vvhich had as good suc-successe as so bad a practise deserued The Protector among other things that crossed his greatnesse in popularitie was the spoyling of churches and chappels the defacing of auncient tombes and monuments namely twelue goodly tombes in Christ-church his attempting was to pull downe all the Belles in parish Churches and to leaue but one Bell in a steeple whereat the commonalitie were reddie to rebell Hee raigned seuen yeares mette with a tricke of treason He meaneth that he was poysoned by his protestant Protector Cranmar other protestants of that most wicked combination They that desire to know more of that yong kings times may resort to your Protestant histories of Foxe Stowe Holinshed Speede Foxe tom 2. in king Edw. Holinsh. and Theater ibid. Iniunctions an 1. Ed. 6. and the childish Iniunctions in matters of Religion set out in the name of that Nouice and Nouecins supreame head of your church where he may finde the chiefe care of the councell and executors left by king Henry the eight spiritual and temporal to loade themselues with new and great titles and honours of dignitie grow riche by the last ruines of the Church and to be of no setled religion at all For we doe not finde either in histories or in confession of Protestants diligently collected by them or in any priuate or publike monument any forme fashion shape articles canons or decrees of Religion either vnder king Henry the 8. k. Edward the 6. or Q. Elizabeth vntill her fourth yeare anno 1562. when the booke of the artickles of your religion was first contryued and published to the world Booke of Articles of Religion an 1562. Therefore wee may not ioyne with these men in Religion as neither you doe especiallie with king Henrie the eight but rather maruaile why you and all that clayme title to religion from them do not finde great motiues rather to bethinke what wrongs they did vnto vs then persist in heaping new and more pressures and persecutions vpon the Catholikes of your owne nation and kindred For you haue heard from your Protestants before that they obtayned that their power against the Religeous houses of England onely vpon this motiue to reforme abuses if they could finde them To create and maintaine for the perpetual defence and securitie of this Kingdome 40. Earles 60. Barons 300. knights and fourescore thousand souldiers with skilful captaines and competent maintenance for them all for euer out of the auntient Church reuenewes and yet to leaue for the maintenance of religious parsons professing and liuing in the perfect way of christian Religion chastitie obedience and pouertie watchings fastings prayers and austeritie of life continued maintained here from the comming of S. Ioseph of Aramathia into this Iland by our kings euen the Pagan kings Aruiragus Marius and Caillus and other Christian Princes and holy founders after to these dayes antiq Glaston apud Lel. in assert Arthur Capgraue in S. Ioseph S. Patric protest histor which neither the Religion of King Henrie the 8. King Edward the 6. Queene Elizabeth or King Iames did or doth condemne Neither can any of them as these Protestantes haue before bene witnesses dissallow of their Masses and prayers for the dead but acknowledged the contrarie opinion to be hereticall and damnable yet both to the temporall and spirituall dammage of many thousands frō that time they still perseuer in that estate of iniustice so obnoxious to restitution and are so farre from performing King Henrie the eight his condition to maintaine so many thousand souldiers others and ease their kingdome of taxes and contributions that they are not now able to performe the first nor to maintaine their dignities without the other In all which the Catholikes of England are onely innocent and yet they alone for their innocencie are condemned and persecuted THAT THE PROCEEDINGS OF Q. Elizabeth ar noe warrant for protestants to persecute Catholicks nor noe true conuiction but rather a confirmation of the Romane Catholicke Religion by the writings of English protestants themselues ALl these protestant arguments conclude much more strongely against the proceedings of Queene Elizabeth in these matters for if it was publickly addiuged for lawe in the time of kinge Henry the seuenth our lawes remayning the same That the parlament could not make the king beeing a lay man to haue spirituall Iurisdiction temporibus Henrici 7. How much more an vnpossible thinge is it to entitle a woman and such a woman to that dignitie by such donation for first euen by our protestants it is the Pepuzian heresie to say a woman at all is capable of that spirituall vocatiō shee stooke vppon herselfe and presumed to impart to others Epiphan Aug. in haeres Pepuzian And thereupon your protestants assure vs The Queens maiesties parson was neuer capable of any part of spiritual
power Ormerod protest Assert an 1604. pag. 218. Then much lesse of that supreame power And if shee had been a man yett in that case your protestant historians before haue told vs made illegitimate by publicke parlament the Kinge Lords spirituall and temporall with the rest there must haue beene as greate a power to recall yt which was not in that her first parlament for the Lords spirituall whoe onely haue power in such cases did vtterly dissent to yeeld her any such priuiledge soe that noe man or company that had power of dispensations in such things dispensed with her but contrary Againe it is a maxime in the Lawes as you Lord Cooke writeth l. 4. fol 23. nemo potest plus iuris in alium transferre qnàm ipse habet None can giue more power to an other then they haue to giue and the contrarie is vnpossible Therefore seeing no Parlament that euer was in England when all the Bishops and Abbots and chiefe spirituall men it euer had were assembled had at any time either for themselues or to giue vnto any other that supreame spirituall power but as your Bishops haue told vs before it was wholly in the Pope of Rome euer from our conuersion and so could neuer be deriued to King Henry the eight or Edward the six Parker antiquit Britan. in Cranmer Polydor. Virg. in Henr. 8. l. vlt. histor c. it is much more stronge against Q. Elizabeth both for her sexe and the other incapabilitie as Protestants assure vs. And for her or any to clayme it by that Parlament wherein shee tooke it vpon her is a thing more then to be wondred at for all men of that Parlament which had any spiritual iurisdiction as the Catholike Bishops did by all meanes resist and contradict it and the words of the statute as your Protestants haue published it by which shee tooke vpon her to exercise it and persecute Catholikes onely by pretence of this power there giuen vnto her are these Most humbly beseech your most excellent Maiestie your faithful and obedient subiects the Lordes Spiritual and Temporal and the vvhole commons in this your present Parlament assembled That the supreame power spirituall should be in that Queene when it is euident by all our Protestāt histories that not one Lord Spirituall either desired it or consented vnto it but all repugned and gaine-said it and for that cause were committed to prison or otherwise most grieuously afflicted Stow histor an 1. Elizab. Holinsh. Theater an 1. Eliz. Cambd. annal rerum Anglic. in 1. Elizab. c. And yet there was not any man in that Parlament that could giue vnto her if she had bene capable as she was not the least spiritual iurisdiction ouer the least parish in England And if she had not insisted in her fathers steppes of flatterie terrors dissimulatiō promises of great matters without performāce in some degrees by the cunning of some about her without conscience exceeded him shee might haue founde as little applause and consent in the Lords temporall and others For vsing all meanes she could to further her strange proceedings partly to be hereafter from her Protestant writers remembred yet shee found such and so manifest reasons opposed against her that the scarres of those wounds then giuen to your religion will neuer be recouered A principall antiquarie among you writeth Cambden Annal. in Eliz. pag. 26. that the Lord Vicount Mountague which a little before had bene Ambassadour at Rome with Bishop Thursby of Ely for the reconciling of England to the Church of Rome in Queene Maries time publickly in parlament these opposed Hic ex Religionis ardore honoris ratione acriter instabat magno Angliae dedecori esse si ab Apostolica sede cui nuper se submisse reconciliarat mox deficeret Hee out of loue of religion and care of honour did earnestly vrge how great a shame it would be to England if it should so soone reuoult from the Sea Apostolike to which it had lately submissiuelie reconciled it selfe and would turne to greater danger if excommunicated it by such defection be exposed to the rage of neighboring enemies Hee in the name of the nobilitie and all degrees in England in their name had done obedience to the Pope of Rome and must needes performe it Therefore he vrgently besought them that they would not depart from the Romane Sea to which they were indebted both for first receauing the faith from thence and from thence hauing it continually preserued This was sufficiently prooued at that time of the reconciliation of England to the Church of Rome in open Parlament also by Cardinall Pole as your first protestantly ordeyned Archbish in these wordes affirmeth Parkerant Brit. in Reginald Polo Hāc in sulae nobilitatem atque gloriam Dei prouidentiae atque beneficientiae soli accepta ferendam sed tamen viam ipsam atque rationem qua hac nobilitas atque gloria parta est sede Romana nobis prima semperque monstratam patefactam fuisse In Romana exinde fidei vnitate nos semper perseuerasse fuisseque nostram antiquissimam Romanae ecclesiae subiectionem The noblenes of this Iland for being the first of all the Prouinces of the worlde that receaued the Christian faith and the glorie thereof is to be acknowledged to haue proceeded from the prouidence and goodnesse of God yet the way it selfe and meanes by which this nobilitie glory was wonne vnto it was first alwaies shewed and layde open vnto vs from the Sea of Rome wee haue alwaies from that time perseuered in the vnity of the Romane faith and our subiection to the Romane Church is most auntient And this reconciling of England then to the Romane Church was so ioyful and honorable a thing to this natiō that to vse your Protestant Archbishops wordes Parker antiquit Britan. in Polo In Synodo decretum est vt dies ille quo pontifici Romano authoritas restituta fuerit quotannis festus dies celebraretur atque Anglicanae ecclesiae reconciliatio diceretur It was decreede in a Synode that the daye on which authoritie was restored to the Pope of Rome should yeerely be kept holie daie and called the Reconciliation of the Church of England Abbot Fecknham in Parlm Elizab. in his oration to that Parlament of Q. Elizabeth hath thus Damianus and Fugatianus as Ambassadours from the Sea Apostolike of Rome did bring into this Realme 1400. yeares past the very same religion whereof wee are now in possession and that in the latine tongue as the auntient historiographer Dominus Gylduas witnesseth in the prologue and beginning of his booke of the Britaine histories which he would not haue dared to vtter in that time and place but that then he could produce that antiquitie to be his warrant which with many others condemning the new religion of Protestants are by them suppressed All the Bishops of whom more hereafter and whom tearmeth your Protestant glorious renowned men obfirmate