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A16828 A true, sincere and modest defence, of English Catholiques that suffer for their faith both at home and abrode against a false, seditious and slanderous libel intituled; The exectuion of iustice in England. VVherein is declared, hovv vniustlie the Protestants doe charge Catholiques vvith treason ... Allen, William, 1532-1594. 1584 (1584) STC 373; ESTC S100110 150,813 230

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tēporal spiritual authoritie cōfounded by the Libeller As though ther were no distinction betwixt Christes bodie mistical and a body politique or humane Common-wealth As though Christ had giuen his said bodie spouse and spiritual Common-wealth to be gouerned ether vnto Kinges and Empeperours who were then and some hundreth yeares afterward persecutours of his Church and Faith and yet had as large whole and perfect Regalitie as anie faithful Prince hath or vnto Christian Kinges afterward who are by receauing Christes sweet yoke Faith made children and members of the Church not Heades therof As though our Sauiour had not in his time appointed special officers for the regiment of his Church or the holie-Ghost afterward not placed Apostles Prelates Pastors and Doctors to gouerne the same euen to the end of the world This deuilish confusion of thinges and attributing al spiritual Soueraintie to the temporal Prince and power The vvay to Antichrist which the Scripture calleth for distinctiō sake Humanam creaturam or rather this turning al Prelacie into Regalitie 1. Pet. 2. if it be permitted wil take away the verie life and essence of the Church of God and of al religiō and wil plane the way to Antichrist who shal by the title of his only Regalitie Antichrists Regalitie destroy if it be possible al power spiritual and temporal and set him self to be adored aboue what-soeuer is named in heauen or earth Woe be to our Nation and to the sinnes of our people which God hath suffred to be the first example of this abhominable conuerting of the spiritual power and regiment of our soules into our Kings Regalitie And Fye on this godles Libeller and his prophane intention that by the defence of this special turpitude of our Kinges and Countrie so foulie slaundereth also other most godlie Princes with his shameful surmise Hovv fouly Catholique Princes are slaundered by this Shameles Libeller that they doe but permit in their dominions the Popes authoritie of policie and no further then is for their aduauntage Who 's impudent calumniation may easily be refuted by their Maiesties zealous deuotion and most sincere obedience to his Holines in al matters of Faith and Religion wherin his Superioritie speciallie and properlie consisteth by their dailie Roial offices done against Heretiques for defence of the Romane Sea and Faith and by open profession of the same both in their liues and deathes by their continual resistance of the enimies therof to their infinite charge yea and often to the hazard of their persons crounes dominions by the due obseruation of the holie decrees of the Sea Apostolique as farre as the great loosnes of this time and the manifould importunity of Heretiques and Atheists wil permit by exact iustice done in many of their kingdomes vpon the rebels of the Church holy Sea and finally by their continual intelligence with his Holines in al their affaires of Conscience Religion and the vse of al his spiritual Graces Indulgences and Benedictions with as great humilitie as the poorest Catholique man in the world But the aduersarie telleth vs for al this that diuers Princes and Countries before named Al examples are not to be stood vppon haue abbridged limited and resisted the Popes doinges and authority To which we say that in such cases we should not stand alwaies vpon examples but rather on reason and lawe For a man might say that Herode killed Iohn Baptist Philip made away Babylas Theodosius banished S. Chrisostome Constance persecuted Athanasius king Henrie of England caused to be murdered his Primat and holy Metrapolitane Thomas of Canterburie manie moe haue resisted the Bishops and Pastours of their owne soules wherof diuers haue bene sorie and sore repented their iniquitie afterwardes as our said Henrie the second amongest other Who 's exāples may not be made a rule how kinges should behaue them selues towardes their Prelates God forbid No more in this other kind we now speake of need we to allowe al the Pragmatiques Praemunires or other National decrees and prouisions which euerie particular Prince hath made or may make though in conscience Catholique by which the Popes iurisdiction and preeminences in some sort and in some cases are abbridged and limited As on the other side againe we nether need nor wil condemne the same because they be not of thinges mere spiritual Al restraintes of the Popes iurisdiction in Catholique countries nether vvholy allovved nor vvholy to be condemned but ether plane temporal or mixt such as had ether by the Princes lawes or custome of Contries bene graunted of deuotion to the Sea Apostolique before and afterward vpon farder consideration by the difference of times or of lesse deuotion reuoked vpon pretence of preseruation of the temporal state and benefiting particular Prouinces vnto which the emolumentes and large priuileges yeelded before to the cheefe Bishop and other of the cleargie might seeme some hinderāce Or els were of that nature that the supreme Bishop might indeed of reason chalenge as thinges incident to his high office and requisite for the better administration of the same but yet not such for al that as were necessarilie or by diuine lawes apperteining directlie to his spiritual regiment and iurisdiction and therfore might by his wisdome ether be tollerated as manie thinges in this case be which he alloweth not for auoiding of scandales or for other detriment of soules or by composition for the better reteining Princes and prouinces in ecclesiastical peace be condescended and agreed vnto the limitation or imminution of his accidental rightes honours and preeminences nothing esteemed so material vnto him as the saluation and preseruation of kingdomes and Contries in the vnitie of Christes faith and Church The Pope may yeeld ī his humane prerogatiues but not in his spiritual Ther is no humane prerogatiue be it houlden neuer so rightlie or giuen neuer so iustlie for the honour of Christ and his high office but he may ether him self for iust causes yeeld it vp or by violence ether of persecutours or carnal and wordlie persons be bereaued therof Onelie his preeminence Prelacie ouer our soules and ouer al Christian Countries and persons be they publique or priuate and whatsoeuer our Sauiour graunted to the Prince of the Apostles vpon whom he builded his whole Church and to whom and to his successours he gaue the keyes of Heauen with ful commission to bind loose punish pardon feede confirme in fayth decide and determine c. this he can not yeeld this can no earthlie power take frō him this doth no Catholique King or Countrie restreine him of nether euer were ther anie lawes made in Fraunce Spaine or in our owne Countrie so long as it was Catholique for abbridging his Apostolical mere spiritual authority ī the premisses Though otherwise as it falleth out in a mans owne person wherin as the Apostle writeth and as we al feele the flesh resisteth the spirit The
with the rebellious states of Flaunders In Flāders or with the Apostata of Colen or other their correspondents wil come they partelie perceaue and may acknowledge therī as al other wise mē doe the mightie iust and prouident hand of God The secret miserie of English Protestātes When our Protestantes consider of thes thinges deeplie and attend the issue of al their extraordinarie proceedinges and as men out of al aime now and compasse of their intended cours can goe no farther without desperate ouerthrowe and hazard of al what miserie they may be in let wise men iudge how so euer thē selues couer their perplexed cogitations from the vulgar sort by telling them of faire wether and of their plentie of corne and cattle long reigne and prosperitie of her Maiesty aboue al Popes and Princes of her daies But the origine of al the former dishonorable desperate plottes and of the extreme feares and miseries The true origine of English miseries they manie wayes shew them selues to be in and indeed are notwithstanding the pretence of their prosperitie is their first fal from the God of their forefathers and the alteration of Catholique religion into this Caluinisme or Atheisme by which our Realme hath so long perished Though this Libeller and other English new writers no wiser nor better then Children or Beares that are offended with the roddes stones or staues wherwith they be beaten nether looking a● the cause nor cheefe author of their punishment attribute their trobles or apprehended feares to the excommunication and to the godlie endeuours of Catholique Priestes instructing the people peaceablie to their saluation And how much this forsaking of holie Church Faith and communion of al Christian people displeased God and how vnwiselie it was done in respect of the temporal state and safetie of our Prince Countrie the same Lord God hath in their owne daies that were the authors therof reuealed as otherwise natural reason and experience if they were neuer so voide of conscience and religion might haue foretold thē But alas their owne particular aduauncement and infinite ambition which they thought should not haue so free cours if the old state of religion had continued ether brought them into errour of iudgemēt as it commonlie happeth or els which is no rare case nether made thē against their owne knowledge folowe that which was so pernitious both temporallie and spirituallie For who could not see though his iudgement reason Al mutations dāgerous but especially of Religion or reading were neuer so smal that al great alteratiōs in Common weales are dangerous Let but an attempt be made to change your temporal statutes and national lawes into the ciuil lawes change but your customes that now you be guided by in manie thinges change your forme of gouernment which is now a Monarchie into an other kind of regiment what infinite broiles would it bring But ther is no alteration so perilous as of Religion and of that Religiō which was planted by our first Apostles receaued from the mother Church of Christendome confirmed by miracles approued by al the lawes councels customes and tribunals of the Church for to be the only true worship of God and consonant to his sacred word wil. What counsaile could be more dangerous in the world then this They could not but thinke that the subiectes of the Realme so manie of them being Catholique so latelie reconciled to the Church and by publique Ambassie othe and promis to his Holines aduowed neuer to fal againe into Schisme could not but be much discontented They could not but see what hart-sore it would be to al thos that depended on the old honorable Cleargie to behold the depriuation and imprisonment almost of the whole order and an other fleshlie company intruded into their roomes whom no man almost liked of and sith are more and more taken and proued to be the filth of the land They were not ignorant that the Pope and Sea Apostolique now the secōd time so contemptuouslie forsaken could ether of conscience or dutie to his flocke or his owne honour The peril by excōmunication not vse one time or other the rodde of the Churches discipline which is Excōmunication against the offendors which how so euer they thought by errour of Religion they might contemne by power withstand yet they could not be so farre ouerseene that such Censures by which manie a mans conscience at home might be perced and of which anie forreine Prince abrode as time and aduantage serued him would perhaps make his profit might not seeme to them verie like to breed more trobles then were to be wished They looked not wel about them Consideratiōs against change of Religion in England if they foresawe not that their defection from the Pope who is most dearlie cōfederated with al the Catholike and mightie Kinges of Christendome might not breed a great alienation of their hartes from vs and an occasion of much inconuenience and danger to our Countrie Their wisdomes and experience of the diuers bloody conflictes foughten in our Fathers dayes for religion in Zwicherland and in our Countrie in K. Henrie the 8. and K. Edvvard the sixt late daies and the doubtful euent of such thinges might haue forewarned them of the like that might fal and sithence haue fallen as wel in England as Ireland where al the Countrie being in good wil Catholique they might easilie perceaue with what a general torment of conscience and danger of ciuil warre the new Religion were to be enforced vpon them Feare is neuer a sure nor long keeper of his maister And because no Prince ruleth his subiects so securelie by force and feare as by loue and liking how could they not conceaue that al Ireland and a great peece of England was euer to be interteined in subiection by power and plaine awe nothing by loue and sweetnes And which is of more perilous sequele in this case and ought most of al to haue bene by them foreseene is that the diuersitie of religion ioined with the censure and sentence of the Sea Apostolique may make such alteration in the opinions of manie otherwise most loial subiectes that diuers may seeme to obey onelie of feare and nothing of consciēce Which conscience of the subiectes doubtles is the onelie sure piller of the Souerains estate They should haue foreseene how manie persons of honour and qualitie for freedome of conscience and other discontentmēt grounded on religion were like to flie into forreine partes who might by zeale or miserie be so irritated against the causes of their banishment and occupiers of their liuelihoodes that their absence might proue dāgerous to their enimies state Whom they can not represse by calling them Fugitiues or such like names of vulgar reproch for that terrefied not the noble Prince Henrie the seuenth K. Henry the 7. grandfather to the Queenes Maiesty for pursuing the cruel Tirant and vsurper Richard the third whom he
wil not name though he named them to commence such a foule tragedie considering therfore al thes thinges and desiring to couer the foulenesse of the fact as much as might be aswel in respect of their owne people manifoldlie discontented and speciallie impatient of such iniurious proceedings as also of strangers to whom the rare vertues of father Campian and of some of th 'others were knowen besides other violēt meanes by seuere punishments and proclamations to stay the hard speaches and conceates of the people therin They caused some of them that yet were not executed The substance and intēt of the six Articles propounded to the Priestes before their execution to be examined vpon certaine Articles six in al cleane of an other pourport then their former accusation of killīg the GREATEST as our Libel speaketh al which articles doe concerne onelie the authoritie and fact of Pius Quintus of famous memorie in censuring the Q. by excōmunication and depriuation for Heresie and what they thought or how far they allowed of the same Wherunto because they did coniecture their answers wold be odious in the sight of the simple speciallie of zealous protestantes as it fel out in deed they deuised to publish and read them to the people at the martyrdome of the rest that therby they might at least conceiue that they were worthie of death for other causes though not for that wherof they were condemned and so ether lesse pitie thē or lesse marke the former vniust pretensed matter of their condemnation And this cōning cours they haue folowed euer sith in defence of that pretended Iustice and is the whole conueyance of this Libeller now who to defend th' execution of their crueltie towardes thes Saintes of God bestoweth his labour onelie to proue that they haue bene tried by the six Articles cōcerning the Excommunication and that ther was found a note after Father Campians death touching the same Bul procured for th'interpretatiō force therof brought from Rome by father Persons and the said F. Campians sute that M. Hart confessed the Bul in such and such sort to bind and otherwise not to stand in force Whereby onelie he goeth about to perswade the world and speciallie strangers vnacquainted in our affaires the said men to haue bene traytors iustlie punished as though new crimes ether found out or done after the sentence of their death past yea after the execution of the same could iustifie their condemnation past before But the world looked for some iustification of that former iudgement and verdict of court which passed with such great solemnitie against thos innocent men before vpon transgression as was pretended of an old statute for compassing the Q. death For as for al other declamatiōs and Inuectiues be they true or be they false can not excuse the fact frō plaine murther nor condemne them after they be dead for other crimes then they were cōuicted of in their liues Which the Libeller him self cōfesseth in thes expresse wordes after al his idle worke and wordes Vpon refusal to ansvvere to thes questiōs directlie saith he as they might haue bene iustlie conuicted of treason Fol. 18. so yet vvere they not therupō condemned Which yet is false for they haue latelie executed diuers Priestes as M. Haddock Preestes nevvlie martyred in England M. Hemmerford and others most cruellie onelie about the matter of excommunication of the Q. But vpon their other former actions committed both abrod and in the Realme But what thos actiōs were and how they were prooued to be committed particulerly by thos whom we auouch to be vniustly condemned vpon old treasons and to be onely killed for their religion that should haue bene your whole endeuour Sir to shew al other superfluous railing or recital of pretēded offenses for which your self confesse they were not condemned being not of force to mainteine the defence of your pretended Iustice nor yet to stay the Christian world and Church of God from accompting them Martyrs whom you haue murdered Against whos holy ashes and memories you can strugle no more then th' olde heathen and heretical persecutours did to diffame thos glorious men of the primatiue Church whom they executed in pretence of like treasonable trespasses who yet notwithstan●ing their enimies manifold endeuours to stay the ●onours due to them after their deathes by Christ ●nd his Churches iudgment haue gotten the victory ●uer their aduersaries and so remaine as glorious in heauen and earth as their persecutors be infamous ●hrough al the world What worldlie honour the two king Henries of England had The comparison of the Persecutors vvith the persecuted I meane the second and eight which ●n the dayes of their reigne no doubt was great or what esteeme so euer the Princesse present and her greatest Ministers haue now by the height of their ●oome and fortune in this life it is but a very dreame ●hadow or phantasie to the glorie of Thomas of Can●urburie Iohn of Rochester Chancelor More Father Campian and the rest whō fame felicity foloweth vpon their deathes and vppon such contradiction of sinners seeking to disgrace them As also in the contrary part the persecutors glory dieth with their authority if not before and they are commonly better knowē to posterity by executing of such mē though to their shame then by other their factes in their life whatsoeuer And so doth God protect his Saints A contradictione linguarū from the ganesaing of tongues and giueth thē victorie of the world by the fortitude of their Fayth in him But of the six Articles concerning the Bul of excommunication more shal be said in the next chapte● and other places folowing that their innocēcie theri● also may appeare and the slaunderous Libeller repressed euery way THAT WE NOWE HAVE GREAT CAVSE TO COMPLAINE OF INIVST persecution intollerable seuerity and cruelty tovvardes Catholiques in England and their Protestantes no reason to doe the like for the Iustice done to them in Quene MARIES and other Princes dayes and the cause of the difference CAP. III. THE Libeller by-sophistical reasons popular perswasiō going about to make men thinke th'english persecution to be nothing so violent as is diuulged nor any thing comparable to the iustice exercised towardes the Protestantes in the raigne of the late Q. Marie telleth of hundrethes for our scores as also of the qualities of them that then suffred of their innocencie in al matters of state and treason and such like To which we say breeflie clearlie and to the purpose that we measure not the matter by the number nor by the seuerity of the punishment onely or specially but by the cause by the order of Iustice in proceeding by the lawes of God al Christian Natiōs and such other circumstances wherby we can prooue Q. MARIES doings to be commēdable and most lawful th' other towardes vs and our Brethren to be iniust and impious The difference is in thes pointes you professe to
inuincible courage constancie of the Pope often brought to penance and extremitie that in fin by armes he droue the said Pope out of his sea and placed an Antipape An Antipape that is to say one so opposite to Christs vicar as Antichrist shal be against Christ which by armes and patronage of this wicked Emperour vsurped and occupied the Apostolical throne against the true Pope Gregorie the seuenth whom the Libeller after the vulgar vaine of Rebellious Heretiques voutsafeth not the name of Gregorie the seuenth but calleth him commonlie Hildebrand as the Heretiques when they were in armes in Germanie against their Emperour Heretical malice would not name him Charles the fifte nor Emperour but Charles of Gaunt And now because this good and notable Pope The cōtentiō betvvene Pope Gregorie the seuenth and Henrie the third Emperor was ●ot able in fin to resist th'emperours forces the which Emperour as al the histories of that time record was a most wicked sacrilegious simoniacal and heretical person th' aduersaries of Gods Church doe triumphe as the Libeller here doth ouer the blessed man as Herode might haue done ouer Iohn Baptist whos admonition was taken in so euil gré that it cost him his life as also th'executing of the Churches sentence which is Gods hath done to manie a Prophet and Bishop in the world By which euent of thinges who so euer measureth the right of causes wil make a good religion and a good defence of th' execution of iustice For so most Tirants might be iustified for a time against al the Saints of God This Gregorie say they was in sin banished by the Emperour and so was S. Chrisostom by Archadius and Eudoxia and dyed in banishment as Gregorie the seuenth did yet they were but homelie Christians that would iustifie the Emperours and condemne S. Chrisostome And indeed this Pope whom they speciallie hate because as it may be thought he was the first man that authenticallie condemned the Berengarians heresie in open disputation refuted it though certaine of the said Emperours flatterers enimies of the sea Apostolique as the fashion of our Heretiques is at this day wrote slaunderous Libels against him Pope Hildebrand a good man yet was he a very notable good man and learned and did suffer what so euer he did suffer for mere iustice in that he did godlie honorablie and by the dutie of his Pastorship what so euer he did against the said Emperour wherof we could alleadge al the best writers of thos dayes or near that time but that we should be tedious Of whom yet this one graue testimonie of Baptista Fulgosius a noble and learned man that was Duke of Genua aboue an hundred years past we shal not let to set doune as we finde it in latine Constantissimus habitus est Gregorius septimus Pontifex Lib. 3 Cap. vlt. factorū memorabilium qui quòd Henricum tertium Imperatorem propter aperta nimis Symoniae crimina pro pastorali officio reprehendebat grauibus ab eo iniurijs affectus est itaque iniuriarum magnitudine compulsus Henricum Gregorius vt haereticum Imperij honore priuauit Cum autem Henricus solui ecclesiastica censura non emendatione vitae sed armis quaereret alium creare Pontificem enixus capta Vrbe obsidere Gregorium coepit Quae mala cum Gregorius pateretur nunquam tamen a iusto proposito dimoueri potuit That is Gregorie the seuēth was notable for his constancie who for that according to his pastoral charge he had admonished Henrie the third The testimonie of the Duke of Genua for Pope Hildebrand Emperour to leaue his knowen impietie of Simonie was by manifold intollerable iniuries vexed by the said Emperour and by the greatnes of his wickednes was compelled to depriue him as an heretique of his Imperial dignitie But Henrie seeking not by amendment of his life but by armes to be absolued from the censure he went about to set vp a new Pope and beseiged the citie of Rome and brought the Pope into great distres In al which miseries Gregorie could neuer be remoued from his iust purpose So he writeth of the parties both See Vspergen lib. 5. Annal. And of the horrible crimes for which the Emperour was most iustlie ī the sight of al good mē deposed Thus Trithemius reporteth ī breef of the wickednes of this Emperour Episcopacus Cōstātiensem c. He sould the Bishoprikes of Constance Bamburgh Mentz diuers other for money thos of Ausbourg Straisburgh for a sword that of Munster for Sodomie and the abbacie of Fulde for aduoultrie Trithem in Chron. heauen and earth witnesse and crie out of thes and for the same abhominations he standeth excommunicated depriued and therfore hath no power nor iust title to reigne ouer vs Catholiques But to goe forward this same Gregorie the seuenth did the like commendable iustice vpon the king of Pole Bolislaus the second Chrom lib. hist Polō li. 4. aswel excommunicating as depriuing him for murthering of his Bishop S. Stanislay at the verie Altar Against which sentence though he stoode by force and contempt for a time Kinges of later times excōmunicated yet at length he was forsaken and resisted wholie by his subiects fled and in fin slew him self For Heresie also was George K. of Boemland excommunicated and thervpon by the forces of the king of Hungarie at length actuallie depriued As also Iohn Albert had half his kingdome of Nauarre taken from him by Ferdinandus surnamed Catholicus of Aragon for that he gaue aide to Levves the twelueth beīg excommunicated by Iulius the second For great iniuries also done to holie Church for persecution of Bishops and religious was Iohn one of our kinges of England Kinges of England with his whole land interdicted and brought after long strugling against God and the Sea Apostolique to yeeld his Croune to the courtesie of the Popes Legate and to make both his Realmes of England and Ireland tributaries Lib. 1. de Repub. Cap. 9. The authentical instrument wherof Iohn Bodin saith he hath seene For like causes and namelie for that he was vehemētlie suspected of the murther of the blessed Bishop S. Thomas of Canterburie was Henrie the second driuen by Alexander the third to order and penance A number of the like examples moe we might recite of our countrie and of the christian world wherby not onelie the practize of the Church in al ages may be seene but also Catholique men warranted that they be no traitors nor hould assertions treasonable false or vndutiful in answering or beleeuing that for Heresie or such like notorious wickednes a Prince otherwise lauful and annointed may be excommunicated deposed forsaken or resisted by the warrant of holie Churches iudgement and Censure Whervnto we wil adde onelie the sentence of Gregorie the great and first of that name whom the aduersaries confesse to haue bene both learned and holie who being as
shal be said in the next chapter and others folowing The Libellers importunate insolency inforcing vs therunto like as the Ciuil Magistrats most captious and bloody conceipts cōstrained some of our blessed brethern before their martirdomes to speake more therof then otherwise they desired though nothing so much as by warrant of Gods word and holy writ they might haue done THAT IT IS MVCH TO THE BENEFITE AND STABILITIE OF COMMON vvealthes and speciallie of Kinges scepters that the difference betvvixt them and their people for Religion or anie other cause for vvhich they may seeme to deserue depriuation may rather be decided by the supreme Pastor of the Church as Catholiques vvould haue it then by popular mutinie and phantasie of priuate men as Heretikes desire and practize CAP. VI. THE Libeller once or twice in his discours seditiouslie calleth vpo● the Monarches and Princes of the world warning thē of the doubtful and seruile state they be in whiles the Popes may be suffred to make and vnmake kinges and Princes at their pleasure The seditious sleight of the Libeller and to licence their subiectes to resist them And the man perchance might haue his tale heard if he spake to the simple sort or to such Kinges as feared nether God nor man nor sought otherwise not anie longer to vphould their estates but by desperate force and practize and for their owne time without regard of their posterity But speaking to them whos wisdomes susteine the world whos Crounes are worne Swordes are borne for Christ his spouse whos glorious Auncestors partlie first rose partlie were established and them-selues yet safelie stand and happilie florish which our Lord God long cōtinue by the benediction of the Sea Apostolique and good intelligence correspondece with the high Bishops of the same good audience hardly can they looke for Th' example of some other Princes Protestants about ●hem forsaking the felowship of the Catholique and Apostolique sea and speciallie of king Hērie th' eight ●●rst his sonne and daughter after him in Englād 〈◊〉 man a child and a woman not onely seuering them ●elues from the same but annexing to their regalitie ●y strange lawes al Apostolical and Papal power spi●itual with infinite emolumentes made by confiscatiō of al religious mens landes and goods in the whole Realme which was the beginning of that new Ecclesiastical regiment thes thinges being of greater ●emptation then the Libellers bare wordes could ●et neuer moue th'Emperour nor either of the great Monarches nor anie other king of wise counsel in the world to breake with Gods Church and the cheefe Pastors therof Knowing by the recordes of al ages si●hence Christ that what Princes or Potētates soeuer haue formallie opposed thē selues to Christes Vicar and refused to communicate with him in the faith and felowship of the Catholique Church were euer in them selues or their posteritie confounded and their kingdomes ouerthrowen or brought to miserable seruitude of Turke or other heathen Tirant It is not the good fortune of a few yeares felicitie that moueth the graue and sage gouernours of the world though the Libeller to make fooles faine The vvise considerations of Catholique Princes vrgeth their good lucke in England much since their breach with Gods Church but they wil looke farther about them and see the euents of thes strange attempts in vs and the iudgements of God for the same not onelie til th' end of K. Henrie th' eight his race who was Radix peccati but afterwarde if our Lord deferre his sentence so long to some new generations to come Ouer which as vpon the Prince and state present of our Countrie we humblie on our knees with continual teares desire God to haue mercie and to auert his indignation from them and vs that the Princes and people of the world may rather be edified by th' example of our conuersion and returne to Gods Church then be instructed by the sight of our punishment and confusion But now for the cōceipt that this good man would driue into mens heades that no state should be in safetie if the Pope might depriue the Prince at his pleasure it is a bugge fit onelie to feare babes Al wise men in the world that ether see the present times The Popes authoritie touching Princes regalities or looke backe into the ages past knowe that the Pope neither chalengeth nor vsurpeth nor vseth anie such authoritie at his pleasure to depose or exalt whom he list And al learned deuines confesse that he hath not anie direct or immediate iurisdictiō or superioritie ouer the temporalities Ciuil states or regalities of secular Princes or Magistrates and therfore can not dispose of their kingdomes nor actions alter nor abrogate their lawes as he daylie doth and may doe at his good pleasure of Prelates Bishops and Priests affaires vpon whom he hath direct power and iurisdiction but that he may onely intermedle indirectlie with temporal Princes as he is the Cheefe officer vnder Christ and hath charge of their soules and therbie hath to looke whether their regimentes tend anie way to the iniurie of the Church and true Religion or to their owne and their subiects damnation as in case of Schisme Heresie Apostasie Idolatrie Sacriledge and other intollerable defectes in gouernmēt for which he being their Bishop is bound to admonish them sondrie times with al lenitie if that serue not to excommunicate them and if they contemne that and the Churches discipline and authoritie then be they esteemed as heathens and vnworthie of superioritie ouer Gods people This is not to depose Kinges at his pleasure nor is cause sufficient why anie iust and Christian Prince should stand in doubt of the Popes censures onelie such as be Heretiques or intend to shake of the yoke of Christ and their faith in him VVhat Princes only feare the Pope haue cause in their conscience to doubt both the Churches discipline the plagues of God which wil not faile them how so euer by humane force and violence they protect them selues for a time from his Ministers sentence sweet corrections Al iust and Catholique Kinges are so far from doubting or misliking Gods ordinance and the practize of the sea Apostolique herein that they perceiue it most necessarie for the stabilitie of their kingdomes and the continuaunce of their posteritie in the glorie therof that for their regiment in faith and life they stand in some reuerēd awe of their cheefe Pastors which is a necessarie and honorable bridle of Princes in their youth and al the dayes of their life to stay them from dangerous disorders and so to temper them in ther gouernmēt that they may raigne lōg and happilie ouer their people wher otherwise they might fal into infinite calamities and be ether forsaken deposed or shamefullie destroyed by their owne subiects whether they be depriued by holie Churches censure or no. Nether doth anie godlie Christian Prince at this day as we thinke wishe their Empire ether
rather thral obnoxious then to submit thē selues to the sweet yoke of Christs kingdome and Priesthood or to concurre in happie vnitie with such as Christ and the Holie-ghost haue placed ouer the Church for the guiding of her people to saluation and that also in worldlie peace and tranquilitie as much as in them lieth which is their cheefe honor and greatest guarde that may be both to Prince people as the contrarie motion of wicked men to sowe debate betwene Prīces Pastors is surely more vnnatural thē to put discord betwixt the bodie the soule ī the regimēt of a mās persō A fit similitude wherī as the whole frame is best gouerned preserued when the flesh can be cōtented to be ruled by the spirite so no doubt the tēporal power consisteth most safelie endureth longest when it hath good correspondence and subordination to the spiritual which seeketh euer al aduauncement and safetie to the secular Powers appointed by God for the worldlie weale of their subiects Which terrene felicitie necessarie for the cleargie also in this life no lesse then for others is alwaies by the state Ecclesiastical most zealouslie mainteined against the disturbers of peace concord and due obedience to superiours And therfore as the Church of God and namelie the Sea Apostolique hath receiued in respect of the honor due to Christ his principal Apostle S. Peter infinite exaltation by the Christian kinges of al nations so on th' other side the Popes of al ages haue sought by al meanes possible to aduaunce to honor glorie and encrease Christian kinges and states not onelie spirituallie which is their first cheefe care but also temporallie wherof euerie nation Christianed hath had sufficient proofe But to say nothing of Catholique Kinges or Countries which gladlie acknowledge the benefite and wil auouch the right and iust title of anie their dominions Dominions holden by the Popes meanes receiued of the sea Apostolique or adiudged theirs by the same for though the Libeller would make them weene it were a base and perilous matter to stand at the Popes courtesie in such things yet he can persuade none of them that they hould anie peece of their states by euil conscience which is fallen vnto them that way by the Popes warrant nor is he so eloquent as to make them yeeld vp the same to their old owners againe the states and Princes Protestantes must ether acknowledge the benefite and iust possession of diuers high dignities titles and crounes receiued by the said sea of S. Peter or els they be neither kind nor wise Is not the Emperial dignitie the highest humane preeminence that can be in this world And can the German protestants denie but that they hould or had that of the Pope The Empire from the Pope For where some wrangle that it came by election of the people of Rome that is most false contrarie to al histories and reason Dare they denie the Pope to haue had lauful power to translate th' empire out of Greece or wil they say their Emperour that now is and al other his predecessors since Charles the great were vsurpers as they should be if the order or disposition of the holie Sea were not lauful No protestant nor other man in his wit wil so say and speciallie no Alman to the glorie of whos nation this thing so much perteineth This nation therfore hath no cause to complaine of the high spiritual authoritie by which it self hath bene an hundreth times more aduaunced then hindred or diminished As Likewise th' order of the Election and which al men esteeme for a title of most high dignitie the Electorship it self was giuen to certaine Princes of Germanie by Gregorie the fift who as the Magdeburge historians them selues speake being a German and desirous to adorne his natiue Countrie with some excellent honor Cent. 10. Cap. 10. deuised that the election of the king which after his coronation by the Pope should also be called Imperator and Augustus should onelie pertaine to the Germans Now let the Heretiques speake and yeeld ther reason who tooke the matter so much in dougē thes last years past that the Pope should intermedle with the displacing of the Elector of Colen The fond reasoning of Heretiques about the Popes deposing of the late Bishop of Colen What A Pope to depose an Elector said they As though a Pope might not depriue an vnworthie Apostata Bishop of his Sea and Electorship who first created and gaue vnto that nation and to that Sea both Elector and Electoral dignitie it self Let them tel vs why his authoritie is not as great in depriuing for iust cause as his power was sufficient to establish that honor in Germanie And Let the Libeller that accompteth it so vnworthie a thing that some Popes haue giuen censure vpon the Princes of the holie Empire be demaunded who established that high state in that countrie and whether he that had power to doe that can want anie warrant to depriue an euil or wicked person of the Empire And in breefe let him be asked whether that noble nation haue not receaued more dignitie and profit temporal then hurt and hinderance by that Papal power ouer kingdomes which this man in his seditious pride so much abhorreth But to come to that which we the Libeller best of al doe knowe and toucheth vs English more neare at home and may be an instruction and proofe of the cause in hand to other strangers abrode Surely if the people of our Country knew ther owne good and were grateful as they were wont to be for now this brutish Heresy hath made them without affection as S. Paul speaketh of such vnnatural Sectaries they would acknowledge that as to the Sea Apostolique England greatly indebted to the sea Apostolique they owe their first faith and Christianity not only for conuerting the Britons who were the ancient inhabitants of the Iland but also the English them selues afterward and that in very memorable sort reconciling them eftsons againe to holy Church after their relapse and endowing their Princes and Prelats with such singular prerogatiues as no particular Church or Commō welth ī the world with the good grace of al other Christian states be it spoken had greater or more honorable so would they ī like maner besides thes spiritual fauors confesse them selues indebted for the temporal aduauncement of our Princes receiued from the same Sea Apostolique seeing the regiment and Lordship of Ireland was by the Popes only gift bestowed vpon our Souerains in the time of Pope Adrian the fourth and K. Henry the second 400. years agone Irland the Popes gift vnto England they hauing no other title therunto in the world but by this graunt of the Sea Apostolique Which title notwithstanding we doubt not but that our English Protestantes wil accompt sufficient euen vnto this day and K. Henrie th' eight being fallen from the Church and making him self of
a member the Head therof in his Realme went forward vpon this title and of his owne new Papal authoritie from the Lord of Ireland made and called him self the King therof Which stile was afterward as we take it by due authoritie of the Pope confirmed to Q. Marie So desirous hath bene alwaies the holie Sea of Rome to encrease our Princes with al due honor to enlarge their dominions None of which titles prerogatiues authorities or dignities though receiued onely or principallie by the Popes fauour or gift any one of our kinges of what Religion so euer was yet so wilful to reiect or let goe or yet so nise in Faith as to make scruple of conscience to receaue or retaine as laufullie possessed what so euer they haue obteined that way though vngratful persons acknowledge no benefite therin And not onely large kingdomes so obteined Al Princes contented to receaue hold vse titles of honor and dignitie from the Pope Princes are contented to kepe without scruple but hould also al other titles of honour annexed by his Holines to their Regal dignities vpon what cause soeuer as is to be seene in sondry great and mighty Monarches of Christendome vpon whom diuers high titles haue bene bestowed by the sea Apostolique for their most Christian and Heroical endeuours for the Church and their zeale against Heretiques and Infidels as Catholique in Spaine most Christian in France and such like els wher and in our Country a stile no lesse honourable thē the former that is Defendour of the Faith The stile of Defendour of the faith which stile and title al the Protestants in the world doe knowe that it was giuen by Pope Leo the tenth to K. Henrie th' eight for his defense of the Catholique Romane faith by writing yet exstant vnder his owne hand against Martin Luther And albeit the cause for which it was giuen be now quite altered and the Popes authoritie from which it was receaued extremely impugned yet the right therof coming onely from that authoritie now accompted so vnlauful none of our kings wil leaue or wil renounce the same as indeed we wish they should not for that it notablie putteth them in mind what Church and Faith it is that they are bound to defend and against what kind of men they beare the sword which God hath put into their hand The particuler benefites receaued from this Pope We might adde to this the singular and incomparable fauors and daylie benefits done by his Holines that now is to our nation aboue al his predecessors assuredly excepting S. Gregorie the great our first Apostle Who 's diuine grace and example of Charitie he so zealouslie doth imitate towards vs not onelie for the saluation of the whole deceiued Countrie but for the particular releefe of manie hundrethes of al sortes ages and sexes that are driuen by violence of cruel persecution into diuers Catholique Prouinces and are forced to leaue their Countrie and what so euer is deare vnto them to learne that Faith in which al their forefathers so honorablie liued and died By which his rare benefits his happie name as Gregories the first must needes be in English memories immortal maugré this ingratful Heresie to which we hope he shal once be the bane The Charitie of Gregorie the first tovvardes Of the said Gregorie the great his more then common loue of our soules we haue besides other Apostolical charitie this grateful example that his Holines receiuing great sommes of monie in thos dayes out of Fraunce hauing intelligence that ther were dispersed through that prouince numbers of English children bought as bōdslaues for doing of al drudgerie for their maisters profit as the state of seruitude required and that they liued ther in thraldome both of bodie and soule vnbaptized the Blessed Father taking deepe compassion of their miserable case speciallie because they were of that Nation which was then nuelie gained by his trauaile vnto Christ he wrote letters to his receiuour in thos partes that he should not make the french money which was ther to be receiued ouer to Rome by exchange but employ it in Fraunce wher it was currant vpon Charitable vses speciallie therwith to deliuer English Children from seruitude and to bring them into Italie by troupes hauing good graue Priestes to ouersee and instruct them in the Faith and if anie dangerous sicknes should fal to anie of them in the way to baptize them So as he did not onelie procure our peoples saluation at home by sending in diuers learned men to preach and teach the Gospel vnder the conduction of holie S. Augustine our Apostle but also by education abrod of great numbers of our Nation to his great charges temporal So did this renouned Pope and Doctor for our Countrie to bring it from Paganisme to Christ and through God preuayled and deserueth for the same immortal glorie both in heauen and earth And no lesse trulie doth Gregorie the thirtenth for reconciling our countrie from Heresie deserue both bringing vp abrode great numbers of the Nation at his owne charges in Godlie discipline and the same Faith that the foresaid S. Gregorie his Patrone and predecessor first caused to be taught to our forefathers and also disposeth of manie fit persons endued with zeale and spiritual power to returne in peaceable humble and Apostolique maner to their Countrie ther to teach the dec ued to reconcile thē by spiritual power Preistlie functiō to the vnity of Gods Church againe out of which they are most sure to perish and not by raising rebellion or tumultes as this Libeller most falselie pretendeth Which holie function for that they haue done by Gods great grace and goodnes with farre more frute and encrease of the Catholique religion and notorious domage of Heresie The frute of Preestes labours in England then Protestantes feared at the beginning therfore haue they subtellie and falselie turned al thes heroical endeuors of his Holines good offices of Gods Priestes into matters of State and Treason and would make al Princes and people abrode beleeue that are not acquainted as necessitie hath driuen vs to be with the practize of the first Apostles and Fathers of the primitiue Church atchiuing the conuersion of manie cities countries in no other sort then our brethren most godlilie and dutifullie doe attempt in our nation that al our preaching perswading praying offering sacrifice hearing confessions absoluing reconciling hauing of beades crosses images and the like were seditious rebellious traiterous and plaine conspiracie against the Q. Maiesty and the Realme The great malice and ingratitude of England tovvardes this Pope Yea they would so farre if they could abuse the patience and simplicitie of Christian people both of their owne Countrie and others that they would haue them thinke our holie and highe Pastor to haue erected the two Seminaries and other commodities of learning and godlie education for our countrie-men vpon no other
euer haue bene Which euery indifferent man that behouldeth the immortal workes of Charitie which this one blessed Pope hath done in the dayes of his high Priesthood must of necessity confesse Wherof we thought meet to make some mention in this place The seditious practise of this Libeller for that both other Protestantes are not ashamed to accuse the Holie Sea of Robberie and rapine in getting and houldīg the temporal state which now it hath so manie ages occupied to the great honour of God as also for that this Libeller oftē glaunceth at some iniuries which he pretendeth to haue bene done by the Popes tirānous excessiue power as he termeth it to the Princes of the world ī this case sometimes seditiously and subtellie suggesting to the Emperour and other the greatest and best Kinges of Christendome to abbridge his power sometimes craftelie commending them vpon a deuilish and deceiptful fiction of his owne that they onely tollerate his title and iurisdiction for a time and of pollicie so farre as they see it is not preiudicial to their owne states otherwise nether caring for his curses excommunications canons nor commaundements no more thē the protestāt Princes doe who haue withdrawen from him in their states al both temporal emolumentes and spiritual prerogatiues Of which restraint limitation or plaine contempt of the Popes power and censures the writer alleageth certaine examples of diuers Catholique Kinges and Countries that the English may seeme to haue done no new thing in this their shameful reuoult from the Sea Apostolique and contempt of the Ecclesiastical curse and excommunication Which this prophane Atheist affirmeth none but the simple people to feare or care for wise men Princes to haue no scruple or conscience at al in such matters but to resist by armes al lawes and ordinances as they list For proofe whereof he bringeth to no purpose how diuers kinges of Fraunce haue by their lawes pragmatiques restreined the Popes of diuers claimes prerogatiues and profits Touching Catholique Princes restraint of the Popes iurisdictiō How they in England in old time limited and abbridged his iurisdictiō by the law specially called Praemuniri How the noble Emperour Charles the fift feared not their curses when by his Captaines he beseiged tooke and sacked Rome imprisoned and ransomed the Pope him self How his sonne the King Catholique now raigning nothing respected excommunicatiō when his armie was led before Rome walles by the conduction of the Duke of Aluas How King Henrie the seuenth resisted the Pope in a matter of Alume and his neece Queene Marie her self as much as she was deuoted to the Romane religiō withstood him in the fauour of her cosin Cardinal Poole against doctor Peyto about a Cardinals Hat the bringer of which hat and the Buls for the said Peyto she did forbid to enter the Realme commanding thē to be staied at Calles and finally that Cardinal Poole him self hauing the Queene for him in the cause had no feare to disobey the Popes commaundementes and his threatned excommunications or curses but continued Legate and made the other poore Peyto being an obseruant frier to goe a begging stil Thus much in sense saith the Libeller in defence of their resistance of the Pope and contempt of his Censures But looke attentiuelie into the particular reasons and examples of this his discours The ansvver to the exāples alleaged and you shal find nothing but fraude and falshood First it is a most impious and godles conceipt that the Emperour and other great Kinges and Potentates of Christendome ether of old or at this present haue suffred or doe yet endure the Pope to command or haue iurisdiction in their countries onely for some respectes in policie and so farre as they list rather then vppon conscience and for religion when it is certaine that his spiritual authoritie and high Prelacie ouer al faithful Princes and people as instituted by Christ clearlie deduced out of the Scriptures approued by decrees of ancient Councels testimonies of al the old Doctors and by both imperial and national lawes of the Christian world is acknowledged in conscience of al Catholique Kinges that haue bene or yet be within the happie vnitie of holie Church And it is a most shameles slaunder of their sacred Maiesties that this Atheist would make the world beleeue that pretending conscience deuotion religion and sinceritie in their obedience to the Sea Apostolique they doe al in deed of policie As wel might this Machiuilian beare men in hand that the Christian religion is no otherwise admitted in Common-weales but so farre forth as it serueth for pollicie and the aduauncement of the Prince or temporal state And God graunt this be not the marke that our Protestantes and Politiques shoot at much it is to be feared that it is our English elne and analogie of Faith for measure of al actions And certes to no other end they vse their pretended Ministerie new cleargie of their creation occupying them to interteine and amase the people VVith the vvord of the Lord whilest they accomplish their worldly and wicked intentions as apparant it is that the good author of this Libel would not if he were a Prince as such be to neare Princes elbowes thes dayes admit ether Peter Paul or Christ him self into anie iurisdiction ether spiritual or temporal within his Realme nor would be depriued or excommunicated by anie of thē more then now by the Pope nor further deale with them then his aduantage and policie requireth And indeed by the meanes of such Lycurgians as this we haue in England new lawes against al claime of iurisdiction spiritual or temporal The Machiuilian drift of this Libeller that can be made by anie person whosoeuer borne out of the Realme Which no question might exclude Christ and his Apostles no lesse then their successours being as wel forreiners as they Wherin it seemeth singularlie to be noted that this craftie Politique putteth no difference betwixt spiritual regiment and temporal yea rather taketh away al ecclesiastical iurisdiction calling in this his pestiferous Libel which you shal not as we thinke read in anie other of the Heretiques writīges of thes dayes the Queenes spiritual power which she chalengeth against the Popes supremacie her REGALITIE The Q. REGALITIE seeking by al meanes possible wholie to extinguish the Hierarchie and Prelacie of Christes Church and concluding al in Kinglie authoritie Wherby as also by the Scriptures which they foolishlie in the sight of wise men but to the simple perswasiblie alleage That al men must obey the King as the Cheefe or precellent they exclude Peter frō his high spiritual function which he had in the time of Nero and giue vnto the said Nero as his regalitie no lesse thē now they yeeld both Papal and al other Bishoplie Ecclesiastical authoritie in England to the Queene as a peece of her Regalitie As though ther were no difference betwene a King and a Priest The
conscience to matter of treason Which being resolued vpon they went about by diuers proclamations libels and speeches first to make the people beleue that al Catholiques and speciallie Iesuistes and such Priestes and scholars as were brought vp in the Seminaries or Colledges out of the Realme were traitors And for their better persuasion gaue out one while that by the said Priestes and others in banishment Herof ther vvas a special proclamation published in Iulie 1580. ther was a maruelous confederatiō of the Pope K. of Spaine duke of Florence and others for th' inuasion of the Realme But that being shortlie proued nothing they feigned that the said Iesuistes and Priestes were confederated with the Irish quarel and to giue more colour of somewhat they sticked not to rack father Campian extremelie for search of that point But this fiction fayling they found out an other as foule that the death of the Q. and diuers of the Counsel was contriued forsoth in the Seminaries of Rome and Remes of which conspiracie in fin they resolued to endite them as they did pursued them to death for the same with such euident partialitie default of iustice and equitie as was in that court once most honorable for iustice neuer heard or read of before Vagrant discourses of such as accused mē of their liues at the barre Such as pleaded against them to make them odious in iudgment discoursed at this Libel now doth first of the nature and horrour of Rebellion in general and then of a Rebellion in the North for Religion a doosen years before when the parties ther accused were yong boies in the schooles and vniuersities of the Realme of the Popes Bul of excommunicating the Q. a good many of years before anie of them came ouer sea or euer sawe Pope Rome or Remes yea when some of them were yet protestantes in England they discoursed also of the Rebellion in Ireland by Stukeley Sanders others none of which men diuers ther arreigned euer saw or knew in their lyues Of their being made Priests by the Popes authoritie and of their obligation and obediēce to him being the Q. enimie of their authoritie to absolue reconcile in England receiued from him of their coming in at the same time when they were in armes in Ireland as though they had not entred their natiue countrie and exercised thos spiritual functious seuen years before or could not then exercise them but in fauour of such as tooke armes against the Q. And when thes generalities were vttered onelie to make them odious and amase the hearers with thos that should haue to iudge of their guiltines or innocencie the good Fathers and Priests The most iust exception and request of the martyrs arreigned made iust exceptions against such vulgar inuectiues as could not touch them that ther stood in iudgement more then anie other Priest or Catholique in the Realme and manie of the pointes such as they were sure none should haue bene arraigned of in K. Edward the thirdes tyme vpon whos statute neuertheles the enditement was pretended to be drawen humblie praying the Iudge and bench that they wold more directlie plainlie and sincerelie passe on them for their Faith and exercises of the Romane religiō for proof wherof they should not need to seeke for so impertinent and far fetcht matter which they openlie professed and desired to die for with al their heartes or yf they wold needes proceed against them as for treason in the sense of the old lawes of our Countrie that then wold please them to aggrauate no farther to their disaduantage and death ether other mens faultes or matter of pure Religion but to come to the inditement and to the particuler charge of euerie person their arreigned which was of cōspiring the Q. death Wherof if they could by any proof or sufficient testimony of credible persons conuict al or any of them then their death to be deserued yf not their innocent blood vpon al that should be accessorie to the shedding therof a crime that crieth for vēgeance at Godes hand when it is done but by priuate malice and mischeif but committed in publike place of iudgement by authoritie and pretence of lawe as in the case of Naboth and of Christ our master it is in the sight of God most horrible and neuer long eskapeth publike punishmēt from the which our Lord God of his mercie saue our poore countrie euen by the prayers of thes holie Martyrs for whos blood it is otherwise highelie deserued An euidēt conclusion vppon the principal purpose Therfore al other idle and vagrant speeches odiouslie amplifiing either the Popes Iesuites Seminaries Doctor Sanders or anie other mans peculiar actions for Religion or otherwise set apart wherupon as the Counsellers then at the barre so now the writers of this Libel voluntarie and vainly doe onelie stand and make their rest ther is nothing in the world that can proue effectuallie thes mens lawful condemnation nor auowe the iustice of that execution which the Libeller taketh vpon him to doe but in truth no whit toucheth the matter sauing onely such allegation testimonie as may conuince Father Campian and his fellowes with him arraigned to haue compassed the Q. destruction or inuasion of the Realme What other thing-soeuer they were guiltie of or what affection so euer they beare in respect of their contrarie Religion to their Prince and state or what treasonable opinions as they fondlie cal them concerning the Excommunication or depriuing the Q. were afterward discouered in them or what other reasonable cause in respect of the aduersaries feare and ielousie ouer the state or doubt of the times thē troubled the officers then or the Libellers now to satisfie the people or the world abrode doe alledge for their excuse none of al thes thinges can iustifie that execution so long as the matter for which they were onely endited can not be prooued nor the statute of K. Edward the third vpon which they pretend to haue endited them is transgressed by them Therfore as the whole treatise of our aduersaries defence is too to wide from the purpose so speciallie ar the fower reasons which for the readers ease Foure reasons for the cōdemnatiō of Fa. Campion and his fellovves as they terme it and for the pith somme of the whole discourse they haue put at th' end of their Libel in a rāke together by which the discret reader may take a tast of their deceitful dealing in the whole booke Euerie reason should conclude that the Priestes were executed vpon no charge of new religious treasons but vpon old statutes onely for matter of conspiracie in which sense no one of them in truth doth conclude And the first Reason The first reason cometh onely to this end that her Maiestie contemning the Popes Bulles for a good while at length spying them to be dangerous reuiued former lawes for prohibition of them within her dominions Which Argument
ought to be obeyed by the subiects of England notwithstanding the Bul of Pius Quintus or anie other Bul or sentence that the Pope hath pronounced or may pronounce against her Maiesty Whether the Pope haue or had power to authorize her subiects to rebel or take armes against her or to inuade her dominions and whether such subiects so doing doe laufullie therin Whether the Pope haue power to discharge anie of her Maiesties subiects or the subiects of anie Christian Prince from their alleageance or othe of obediēce to her Maiesty or to their Prince for anie cause Whether D. Sanders in his booke of the visible Monarchie of the Church and D. Bristow in his booke of Motiues writing in allowance commendation and confirmation of the said Bul of Pius Quintus haue therin taught testified or mainteined a truth or a falsehood Yf the Pope doe by his Bul or sentence pronounce her Maiesty to be depriued and no lauful Q. and her subiects to be discharged of their allegeance and obedience vnto her and after the Pope or anie other by his appointment and authoritie doe inuade this Realme which part would you take or which part ought a good subiect of England to take Wherin if you say nothing or refuse to answere somewhat in contempt or derogation of the sea Apostolique then are you iudged no good subiect but a traytor wherby let al Princes and People Christian beare witnes of our miseries and iniust afflictions who are inforced to suffer death for our onelie cogitations and inward opinions vnduelie sought owt by force and feare yet not condemned by anie Christian schoole in the world nor vttered by vs but vpon forcing interrogatories we hauing committed nothing by word or deed against our Prince or lawes but doing al actes of honour and homage vnto her suffering meekelie what punishement so euer she would lay vpon vs for our Religion The behaueour of English Catholikes since the Bul of Pius Quintus for so most part of al sortes of Catholiques haue done both in Englād and Ireland for this twentie fiue years space onelie a verie few Nobles of both countries taking once armes for their defence in al this long time of intollerable affliction the like patience you shal hardlie find in Protestātes as their furious rebellions against their Soueraignes in France Flandres and Scotland doe testifie our Nobles gentlemen hauing borne al thos anguishes of bodie and mind with losse of honours countrie landes libertie for so long time haue both at home and abrod obeyed her with such loialtie as subiects ought to doe their Soueraine neuer tooke armes in al Englād vpō the Bul of Pius Quintus nor anie time since the publication therof contrarie to the deceiptful diuisiō of thos times things actions set doune by the Libeller placing that after which was done before the Bul was published but haue shewed them selues in al cases as seruiceable as before The Clergie men also whether religious Priestes The proceeding of Cleargie-men concerning the Bul. or students of the two colledges in Rome and Rhemes whether they were in the seruice of their countrie at home or in the schooles absent did al in maner notwithstāding the said Cēsure of his Holines vse al due reuerēce respect vtterīg in no preachīg speech or booke no nor at the houre of their death Martirdome nor euer before in anie their confessions to the Magistrate anie disloyal worde against her Maiesty No which we further auouch not anie one Priest of the Societie or Seminaries can be prooued by the aduersarie to haue absolued in secret Confession anie one man liuing from his allegeance or to haue euer ether in publique or priuate disswaded anie one person in the Realme from his obedience in Ciuil causes to the Q. Furthermore it is certaine that neuer Priest had anie such Commission giuen hitherto by ether the Popes Holines Priests Commissions or such other superiours in Religion or college to deale in anie such matters touching the Q. nether is ther anie such thing implyed in ether the authoritie or act of reconcilement how so euer the ielous enimie hath found knots in thos rushes that of thē selues are smooth As the contrarie is doubtles most true the Gouernours of the students alwayes of purpose prohibiting and as much as in such numbers of al sortes not al euer hauing discretion to season their zeale could be prouiding that in the cours of our schoole questions and controuersies concerning the Popes preeminence no matter of depriuing or excommunicating Princes should be disputed no not so much as in generalities and much lesse the particularizing of anie point in our Q. case Which matter notwithstanding it be determinable by Diuinitie and doe come in cours to be handled in schooles as other questiōs doe yet because it is incident to matter of state as now our countrie most vnfortunatly standeth and consequently might be interpreted by the suspitious to be ment of her whos case men liked lest to deale in it was thought best to passe ouer al with silence The particuler doinges of D. Sanders of D. Bristoe Which moderation was kept in al places and persons of our Nation two onelie learned men of great zeale excellencie indeed D. Saunders and D. Bristowe excepted who had their special reas●ns to doe as they did which we wil neither defend nor reproue but manie Catholiques were sorie therfore and wished the matter so offensiue had neuer bene touched but committed onelie to higher powers and especiallie to Gods iudgement that he might ether in this world or the next wher both Popes Princes must come to their accomptes discerne of the cōtrouersie betwixt our two superiours th' one being our spiritual Head and Soueraigne who is the higher and in matter of Religion rather to be obyed th' other our temporal Prince to whom likewise in such sort and matter as the Holie Scriptures appoint vs we owe al dutie and obeisance Wherupō afterwardes not onely D. Bristow omitted in his second edition or abridgement of his booke that odious point not fit at that time to be handled but D. Saunders also though his former treatise was not of anie stranger Catholique and learned in anie nation misliked being more free therin because they be not entangled by authoritie and sway of lawes as we are yet called he in and suppressed to his liues end a verie learned booke made in defence of Pius Quintus his sentence and printed aboue fortene years since no copie therof that is knowen being now extant Which cours of moderation al Catholiques of al sortes both spiritual and temporal haue followed euer since restraining as much as in them lay the rigour of that sentence And the blessed Martyr F. Campian him self as is recited in the storie of his arraignemēt The speech of Father Campiā at Rome falling in talke with a certaine principal Cardinal in Rome at his first arriual ther
could not answere of the sense or force therof nor be guiltie of anie crime towardes her Maiestie conteined in the same no nor should euer haue much thought or heard of it had not the other now reuiued the matter One or two answered that they were not so learned as to discusse ex tempore al thos matters conteined in their demaundes but that they esteemed of al in general as the holie Catholique Church teacheth which is said they the Romane Church Some said ther were or might be causes as if a Prince should fal to Apostasie Arrianisme or such like that deserued excommunication depriuation in which case the Pope might discharge the subiects from their obedience but of the Q. particular case they would not talke at al. To be short some being demaunded what they would doe or aduise others to doe if the matter should come to batail for Religion as it fel out in Ireland answered they would doe when that happened which they trusted would not so chaunce as good priests ought to doe that is pray for peace and that truth and iustice in warre might preuaile In al which you see on th' one side how carefullie al men eschewed to vtter their opinions in anie other wordes but such as could in truth no way giue offence to the Q. or state on th' other into what maruelous perplexitie the ministers and mainteiners of heresie ar brought that cannot but by such violent meanes be secure in their sect nor vphold their soule practizes against God the Church and their owne Countrie Let our Christian brethrē of al nations iudge of the causes meanes and measure of our calamities We neuer procured our Q. excommunication we haue sought the mitigation therof we haue done our allegeance not withstanding we haue answered when we were forced vnto it with such humilitie and respect to her Maiesty and Counsel as you see no man can charge vs of anie attempt against the Realme or the Princes person The vnreasonable dealing of our persecutors Yet not content with this they wil knowe what we wil doe hereafter if such or such a thing should chaunce they wil sound al the Catholiques hartes in the Realme which is more then Antichristian violēce they wil punish them as traitors by death most cruel for their onelie thoughtes Yea which God him self doth not for future faultes neuer committed nor perhappes euer like to come to passe Which search of mens future factes or intentions wherof them selues haue neither knowledge nor rule before hand is vnnatural intollerable and to common wealthes most pernicious were able to make al the Catholiques of the Realme to be wholie desperate not finding their loyal behauiour shewed in al kinde of office and seruice to their Prince sufficient to saue their liues but may be examined of thes captious and deadlie chapters of their inwarde opiniōs and purposes to come when the Magistrate or anie mans one powrable enimie list require it Especiallie now whē their vulgar ministers giue it out generallie that al thos whom they cal Papistes be in their hartes traitors and this Libeller sayth thos foresaid questions are most proper to trie them Into such thraldome of bodie and soule hath that barbarous heresie brought vs them also into thos hazardes of their state which they pretend to be the causes of thes their so extraordinarie proceedinges as may be thought were neuer before vsed nor lauful by nature or custome of anie Ciuil countrie in earth Some such demaundes the Scribes and Pharesies and other of the Iewes sectaries The proceeding of the Ievves vvith Christ proposed in times past to our Sauiour to intrap him ī speech to driue hī to vtter some treasonable wordes or cōceipt agaīst the Emperours regalitie ouer the people of God which they presumed to be euil thought of of diuers and speciallie of the better and more exact zelators of the lawe notwithstanding that ether for feare or other causes euerie one semed in al exterior offices to obey Of which tempting questions though Christ by his diuine wisdome easilie discharged him self neuerthelesse they ceased not stil to exclame Hunc inuenimus prohibentem tributa dare Caesari as others did afterward the like of S. Stephen and S. Paul and euen so now our English Saduces are not satisfied but by blood neuer resting til they haue pressed or suckt out something at least for mens intentions or other casual euentes to come that may sound against their duties to the Q. Such is our present menage of state in England into such termes are we brought of extremitie When al other pretences practizes forged crimes and false witnesses against Priests or Catholiques doe faile then are thes made iust quarels of their death and the highest treasons in the world viz to affirme vpon their vnreasonable and importune demaundes that if which God forbid the Q. by supposal should fal to Arrianisme Apostacie or Atheisme whervnto mans frailtie is subiect she might be depriued and her subiects discharged of obedience to her this is the onelie treason which they haue tried out of Catholiques Which for al that in truth cannot be treason how plainlie or voluntarily so euer it were spoken much lesse being wrested out by commandement and subtile drift of interrogatories The Libeller saieth nothing is punished in vs for question of Conscience or Religion The questiō of the Popes Supremacie a matter of Diuinitie and not of State but yet this is such in the sight of al resonable men in the world For it is a mere matter of Diuinitie if not defined for vs yet at least disputable in schoole as them selues wil confesse It concerneth the Popes supremacie and power Apostolical for which this Libeller affirmeth and repeateth often that none be endangered of life or limme in England This proposition I say or anie other equiualent to it viz. That the Pope hath power to excommunicate or depriue a Prince in case of Heresie or Apostacie and consequentlie to absolue his subiects from their othe and obedience to him or to stand in defence of them selues and the Catholique faith against him cannot be proued treason by the statute of Edward the third vpon which onelie he sayeth we be condemned for traitours Who so euer should auouch the same in anie Christian countrie in the world or in our owne countrie in the time of the said K. Edward had held the same opinion should not nor could not haue bene conuicted of treason treasonable assertion or euil affection to the Prince or countrie because it standeth with the honor and safetie of the whole common wealth and the rulers therof so far to be subiect and obedient to Christ and his Church that they count them selues no longer to stand or reigne rightfullie then they stand and reigne for the aduauncement of Gods truth and kingdome in earth which is his Church What treason had it bene to Q. Marie whos regiment for an exāple of their greefe
simplicitie by the tyrannie of such as occupie vnder them principal authoritie How this sort of men abused the years sexe and benignitie also of the noble ladie now Q. of Scotland The traitours of Scotland whos fortune therbie hath bene so hard as the world now seeth withal bow they haue abused her most high and excellent Sonnes minoritie to th'aduauncement of their sect and selues no man can be ignorant And now when that rare Prince is come to years of knowledge and therby like to espie and punish the wicked treacherie and treasons of thos that haue so abhominablie abused his infancie and Mothers sexe they barbarouslie by the counsel of wicked Ministers the raskalitie of the Realme ceazed vpon his royal person and sithence being deliuered by God from his enimies handes they sticke not to tel him to his face that he was erected by them to defend this new and barbarous Gospel of theirs and onelie vpon feare of his further years they seeke to put his noble person in dailie danger This loe is the deuotion of Protestants towards their Princes agreable to their former opinions recited before But of their diuinitie we make no further accompt then is requisite for this dispute now in hād with their fellowe Protestants and with thos speciallie of England who are the principal protectors of al thes practizes coloured by religion wherof yet they haue no further care thē cōcerneth onely their owne interest But it is sufficient for vs that with thes men if we may beleeue ether their words or deeds it is no treason to resist the Soueraigne for defence of Religion nor no treasonable assertion to hould that a lauful Prince may be deposed in case of reuolt from God And so say also on the other side al Catholique men and schooles in the Christian world concerning this point The different maner of proceeding of Catholiques and Protestants in cēsuring their Princes for Religion But yet here is the difference betwene Catholique Christians and rebellious Heretiques that thes good-fellowes folowing their owne deceiptful wils and vncertaine opinions without rule or reason doe adiudge by their priuate follie and phantasie that thing to be errour or idolatrie which indeed is true Religion and doe condemne for Gods enemies such their lauful Souerains as holy Church which herein must be our cheefe informer and iudge doth allow for most iust godly sacred and Catholique Princes The Catholiques contrariwise as men of order obedience not trusting their owne particuler imaginations or partial affections which might lead opiniatiue and restlesse braines to raise rebellion at their pleasure vnder pretense of religion wherof the Protestants haue giuē vs pitiful examples thes years past when soeuer the wicked desired chāge of gouernours and estate doe commit the direction of matters so important to the Church and to the cheefe gouernours of their soules who can iudge by the Scriptures Canons and Councels what is Heresie who is an Heretique what Prince is worthie to be excommunicated who to be depriued who is incorrigible who may be expected in hope of amendment who not in what season and sort to the lest disturbance and most benefite safetie of the kingdome or place annoyed by such vnworthie Princes the thing must be executed The Church is not partial in thes thinges The Catholique Church the best iudge of Heresie as we that be subiects may be it is not decent that inferiours should determine at their pleasures of ther superiors What way therfore can we take in Christian religion more seemelie and sure in conscience for thes affaires then to harken to the highe priest of Gods Church by whos directiō our consciences in this case cannot lightlie erre or surelie not so perniciouslie when we folowe them to whom Christ hath giuen the charge of our soules and must render accompt therof to him as to the supreme Bishop of al by whom and for whom onelie al kinges doe raigne Catholiques therfore as you see agree with th' other in the point of deposing and resisting kinges for Religion but yet doe differ in the maner as far as reason and conscience differ from furie and phrensie About which matter I wil now set doune some Catholique writers albeit but few for breuitie sake The opiniōs of Catholique vvriters about depositiō of Princes for Apostasy Heresy yet of such excellent credit as shal be able to instruct and satisfy anie reasonable consciēce in this case as also to be our brethrens defence against al thos that charge them so deadlie with thes treasonable propositions Thomas Aquin that glorious Saint and clarke whos onelie sentence weigheth more then al the Protestants wits and wordes in the world saith thus S. Thomas Postquàm Princeps est denunciatus Apostata omnes inferiores subditi absoluuntur a praestito iuramento obedientia illi debita that is to say After a Prince is one denounced to be an Apostata al his inferiors and subiects are assoyled of their othe made vnto him of their obedience due vnto him This case therfore is plainlie resolued vpō Toledos opinion of a Prince excōmunicat in 2. 2. by the greatest of al the schoole Doctors and therfore can be no treasonable assertion or opinion Vpon which wordes of S. Thomas the famous professor of our time Francis Toledo writeth further thus Nota saith he quòd eadem est ratio de Excommunicato quia cúm primùm quis est denuntiatus excommunicatus omnes subditi absoluuntur ab eius obedientia Licet enim sit notorium crimen Principis non absoluuntur vasalli a iuramento vt bene dicit Caietanus ante denuntiationem ab Ecclesia qua facta non solum sunt absoluti ab obedientia sed tenentur non obedire nisi fortè propter periculum vitae vel damnum bonorum temporalium Et sic de Henrico octauo in Anglia factum est cui etsi subditi postquàm denuntiatus esset excommunicatus tenebantu● non obedire tamen quia is crudelis erat illos vel vita vel bonis priuasset excusati fuerunt subditi illi adhuc obediēdo Which is in English Note saieth he that albeit S. Thomas named onelie an Apostata yet the reason is al one in the Princes case that is excommunicated For as soone as one is denounced or declared an excōmunicate al his subiects be discharged of their obediēce For though the crime of a Prince be notorious yet before declaratiō therof be made by the Church the vassals are not assoyled frō obedience as Caietanus wel holdeth which declaration being made by the Church they are not onelie discharged of their loyaltie but are bound not to obey him anie more except it be for feare of their liues The case of K. Henrie the eight or losse of their temporal goods As it was in England in the time of Henrie th' eight whom though the subiects were bound not to obey after he was denounced excōmunicate
occasion but to moue sedition and rebellion and therfore are so farre from giuing him humble thankes as they ought to doe as our Nation wil once doe if euer it come to it self againe that they hate his person and office for this cause most deadle and doe publish by this Libel and otherwise that it is a worke of high hostilitie against her Maiesty But alas for pitie and woe be to our sinnes that the state of our Common-wealth is now so neerlie ioined vnto Heresie that nether Christes Vicar by charitie and discipline nor Gods Priestes by anie office of ther life and death can seeke to remedie the one but they shal be accompted enimies and traitors to the other Which fond malice yet through our infelicitie is more apparant in England then in anie other people of the world besides though in error and out of Gods Church as ours The godlie Zealous doinges of this Pope for religion It is the peculiar glorie of Gregorie the thirtenth aboue al his predecessors and other Prelates of al ages that in so sweet and Apostolique sort he prouideth for the instruction of innumerable youthes for their owne saluation and for the reduction of their natiue countries and interteining the Catholique faith in most prouinces of the world Many are the people in the world abrod especiallie in the East South and North partes therof which are in Schisme Heresie or Error no lesse thē the English and the incomparable care of this general Pastor prouideth for euerie one in the best maner that is possible as wel by corporal as spiritual releefe He hath at this day some of the fathers of the Societie of Iesus in Constantinople The Society of Iesus in Constantinople Alexandria and els wher-soeuer is anie oportunitie to gaine soules in the dominions of the Turke in Muscouia likewise and other Prouinces addicted to the errors of the Grecians He hath instituted Seminaries for the Greekes Armenians and Sclauonians he hath placed colledges of the Societie and Seminaries in Suetia Liuonia Polonia Boëmia Transiluania for Scotland also and speciallie for the noble Prouince of Germanie Yea his pastoral solicitude reacheth euen to the East Indies wher in Iapon he hath founded this last yeare past and mainteineth a goodlie colledge not without his great expenses Thus he doth in the cause of Christ from one end of the world to an other whilest his and holie Churches miserable aduersaries waste their time in wrangling and wrastling against the truth And ther is none of al thes Nations of what sect or sort so euer that can be so suspicious or malitious as to interprete his Holines meaning as th' English doe or that conceiue anie feare of treasons confederacies inuasions or destructions of their countries as our men dreame of Other natiōs in Scisme not so ingrat as England The Germanes though al be not Catholiques but manie much altered by their vnaduised folowing of Martin other as madde sectaries yet they al count it a singular honor profit to their nation that they haue so famous a college in Rome it self as our Nation did of olde when it had there a great schoole about a thousand yeares agoe builded by king Offa and afterward an hospital Wher now we of England be come by this wicked Heresie to be so careles of our publique profit and honor that we contemne and maliciouslie condemne a gift farre more excellēt thē euer was bestowed vpon our Countrie before in forreine places and most deuillishlie doe hate the giuer Wherin the Heretiques in this Libel and otherwise shew such ignorant barbarous mockerie touching the terme of Seminaries as though they were estranged from al actions of the Christian world through out al which that terme and calling is so common namelie since the godlie decree of the holie Councel of Trent The name of Seminaries giuing order for the erection of such nurceries for the clergie as it is tooto ridiculous in our English Heretiques to make them selues sport at it as they wiselie doe in this Libel also at the name of the Popes Buls The name of Buls by pretie allusion as they thinke but in deed with smal grace resembling them to the bubles of water with such scorneful companions the Church of God hath now to deale But for defence of the Societie Seminaries and the sending of Priestes into England the men of thos orders and qualitie haue age and habilitie to answer for them selues and it is done to our handes plentifullie in their Apologie The English Apologie which the aduersaries shal neuer answere with reason and credit And therfore of that matter inough OF THE LATE WARRES IN IRELAND FOR RELIGION HOW THE POPE may vse the svvord and that the differences betvvixt temporal Princes and him or their resisting him in some cases of their vvorldlie interest can be no vvarrant to the Protestantes to contemne his censures or authoritie in matter of Faith and Religion CAP. VII Hovv the Pope may vse the svvord BVT the aduersarie obiecteth that whatsoeuer the Pope doth or may doe by his Buls excommunications institution of Seminaries or other such like spiritual endeuours may either be contemned or neglected by the example of her Maiesty who regarded not his doinges against her so long as he satt stil in his Chair but when he rose vp in anger and left Verbum the word and tooke Ferrum the sword against S. Bernardes direct aduice to Eugenius saith this Libeller yea and when contrarie to the Scriptures he drew forth the sword which Christ commaunded Peter to put vp into the scabard and inuaded by his forces her Maiesties kingdome of Ireland then saith this good man she could doe no lesse but vse such resistance by armes and otherwise as was requisite for her owne defence Wherat we maruel lesse indeed for that before she had contemned the Popes spiritual rodde of excommunication and al Ecclesiastical admonition and censure Lib. 1. cōt Faustum cap. 17. which is the high Priestes and Churches most proper weapon and is more to be feared of al faithful persons as holie S. Augustine saieth Then to be hevved in peeces vvith the svvord burned vvith the fire or torne in sonder of vvilde beastes and is a punishment so dreadful that euen then when it is knowen to be executed without iust cause by some errour or wrong information it may not be contemned Therfore where that was not regarded we knowe ther could be no scruple to withstand anie other Martial attempt against Pope or whomsoeuer nether could it seme strange But at this al the world may wounder and it is maruelous in our eyes why the Popes hostilitie in Ireland The Popes doinges no cause to martyr Priestes should condemne so manie innocent Priests and Catholiques that neuer were in Ireland nor euer were acquainted with the action of that Countrie or anie other rebellion against the Queene in ether of her kingdomes Put
doune to the world if you can anie one word writing or approued witnes that anie Iesuite Priest or Seminarie man of al thos whom you haue executed thes late yeares were ether authors persuaders or dealers therin and then you may haue some shadow of defence for your iustice Proue only that his Holines euer communicated his doings or intentions whatsoeuer they were that way to anie one of them al and we wil confesse that you haue reason in the rest If Pius quintus addressed Doctor Nicholas Morton D. Mortō sixtene yeares since about the matter of the excommunication into England shal al Priestes Iesuistes be deemed traitors therfore If Doctor Saunders D. Sāders ether vpon his owne zeale and opinion of the iustnes of the quarel or at the Popes appointmēt were in the warres of Ireland emploied for defence of the Catholique Religion against the Protestants may you by your lawes or anie other diuine or humane ordinance condemne therfore to death a number that neuer knew ether the man or the matter Some pretence you may haue to be offended with the Pope and perhaps lacke no lawes to punish the said two Doctors that neuer were ether of the Societie or Seminaries but to make al the Priestes and Catholiques at home or in banishmēt traitors therbie it is to vnreasonable and to murther so cruellie one man for an others fault is tooto foule and intollerable iniquity And as for his Holines action in Ireland The vvarres of Irland we that are neither so wise as to be worthie nor so mallepert as to chalenge to knowe his intentions councel and disposition of thos matters can nor wil nether defend nor condemne it Onelie this is euident that thos smal succours which were giuen by him to the Irish or rather suffred at their owne aduenture to goe into thos warres came vpon the importunate sute of the sore afflicted Catholiques and some of the cheefest nobilitie of that countrie Of whos continual complaints knowen calamities and intollerable distresses of conscience otherwise it may be he was moued with compassion and did that in cause of Religion against one whom he tooke in his owne iudgement rightlie by his predecessours sentence to be deposed and in a quarel in his sight most iust and godlie which both her Maiesty and other temporal Princes sticke not to doe verie often towardes their neighbours with whom otherwise they pretend good amitie and no breach of their league at al in cases which ether they esteeme lauful or at lest behoofful for their owne estate and affaires And it is a strange case that thes men should with such ful mouth cry out against the highe Preest and Pastor of Gods Church for vsing the sword or geuīg his consent therunto against a Prince not any way his superior if no way his subiect wheras the Ministers and maisters of their sects both in Flanders Scoteland and other places doe not only councel and persuade subiectes to take armes agaīst their owne lauful Princes and sacred Kinges but also doe practise and in person oppose them selues against them yea in Scoteland against a Prince of their owne Religion For tel me Sir Libeller if you please were not the Ministers of Scoteland the principal fannes and firebrandes of the last Conspiracy and open rebellion against his Maiesties person and the state of that Country Were not they in person at Starling and els wher both in feeld and councel with the Erles of Anguish Marre other rebels against his Roial person Were not al their pernicious machinations of betraing their country and their Princes blood detected by the Erle of Gory before his late behedding for that Conspiracy Are not Patrike Galovvay minister of S. Ihonson Andrevv Pollard subdeane of Glasco Iames Carmihel minister of Haddingtō Andrevv Hay person of Ranfroe Andrevv Meluin professour of diuinity in S. Andrews and diuers other cheefe ministers of that country fled into England for this traiterous fact and ther receaued cherished and protected And since that time wheras in a Parliamēt houlden in Edenburgh by his Maiesty and al the three states of Scoteland begonne the 19. of May last past certaine lawes were amongst others enacted for the restraint of thes Ministers tumultuous authority and to bring them vnder their owne Bishops iurisdiction a thing so resonable and consonant to Gods word as nothing can be more and practised not only in Englād amōg their fellow-sectaries but also thorough-out al Christendome disorderly and seditious Geneua only excepted and when thes lawes that were made by authority of the three Estates and published not only in the Councel-house called Toulbooth but also at the Crosse of Edēburgh by Heraldes at armes for the state did not Robert Pont and VValter Baquanquel two most impudent and rebellious Ministers of that toune by the consent and prouocation of Iames Lauson cheefe preacher ther as afterward appeared oppose them selues in publique against the Kinges authority therby to raise vp some commotion by their open protestation made by instrument in the handes of George VVakeson publique Notary and toune-Clarke of that Citty and did not al thes three named Ministers by night flye presently into England after their insufferable insolency and are ther receaued harboured and maintained Againe in the last Parliament before this being about two yeares agone did not thes Ministers intending therby some dangerous reuoult and seditious defection demaund of their king in most impudent wise to be admitted into the Parliament as equal or aboue their Bishops whom they deny by Gods word to haue any supereminent authority Is not this one of their articles for which their archebishop of S. Andrews doth withstand them and hath bene of late in England to cōferre with the Protestāts of that Country about the same Is it not an other of their articles that it is an Heresy for any Prince to cal him self Head of the Church within his owne Realme that he may be excommunicated and deposed by the Ministers Haue not they excommunicated and held out by violence thes two yeares and more their archebishop of Glasco elected by the King named M. Robert Montgūmery vntil now that this last Parliament of May hath absolued and restored him vnto his archebishoprike againe You exclame against the Pope being the first and cheef prelate of al Christendome euē by your owne confession for geuing his consent that any thing be done or attempted by armes and violence against any lauful or annointed Prince whatsoeuer be it for Religion or any other neuer so rightful or iust cause in his conceipt but what would thes good-fellowes of your Ghospel doe if they had his authority his power and his pretence against foraine Princes of a contrary Religion seing in quarel of faction and fauour of ranke traitors they deale thus against their owne Leege and against their owne annointed sworne King of their owne country blood educatiō and Religion who as he neuer iustly offended them
cōtention betvvē the spirit and the flesh hovv far tollerable and contrariwise the spirit the flesh eche one of them seeking after a sort to enlarge his owne limites and commodities by some hinderance of the other which combat conflict notwithstanding is ether tollerable or not damnable so long as the inferiour which is the flesh by ouer greedie appetite of her owne aduancement destroieth not the superiour which is the soule So doubtles in a Christian Common-wealth the spiritual and temporal state being ioined together as it were in one bodie must needes keepe some moderate strife and combat for maintenance of ether of their limites in external regiment which may be borne withal of eche side so long as nether part seeketh ouer obstinatelie the destruction of the other but doe agree and conioine in preseruation of the principal But where the bodie politique as it is now in our miserable Countrie by intollerable disorder doth striue not so much with the Sea Apostolique The intollerable proceeding of England and bodie mistical of Christ for thinges ether indifferent or not merlie necessarie to the spiritual regiment but by euident rape and violence against the lawes of God man bereaueth Christes Vicar of his whole soueraintie high Preisthood and Prelacie and the Catholique Church of al the rightes douries which our Master her spouse endowed her withal and tirānicallie draweth al to the Princes REGALITIE altering by the authoritie therof the whole faith and true worship of God into abhominable Apostacie Scisme and desolation ther the Libeller can find no example in anie Christian Lawes or Countries through out the world in any age to proue his purpose though vainlie and impertinentlie he alleage thes Concordates of Fraunce other Nations as also the compositions of England with the Pope or what orders and lawes soeuer besides ether lauful or vnlauful concerning restraint of any Papal or Ecclesiastical power which serue nothing at al for defence of the late English general and most impudent reuolt from the vnitie of Gods Catholique and Apostolique Church Manie things might the wordlinges of our Countrie euen in Catholique times attempt for their owne aduantage Some vncōscionable lavves might passe in a Catholique time against the commodities of the Church Our Kinges other in times of dissention with certaine Popes of their dayes might driue the weaker to vnequal conditions and serue their owne ambitious humours to the Churches disaduantage Some lawes might also passe by the powerablenes of Princes in their owne dominions the Sea Apostolique vtterlie reclaiming against them which though they were not directlie against anie point of Faith or Religion yet might be verie preiudicial to the state ecclesiastical and liberties of holie Church as the lawe of Premuniri was which is mentioned by the aduersarie Against which diuers Popes speciallie Gregorie the eleuenth and Martin the fift opposed them selues earnestlie The lavv of Premuniri and dealt with K. Edvvard the thrid and Henrie the sixt for abrogating the same which they both promised to doe but neuer did and cōsequētly it remaineth stil in his first vncōcionable force if the makers had any such meaning as their folowers haue found out for that it may by calumnious interpretation be vsed at the onlie pleasure of the Prince to the confiscation of al Church-mens goodes imprisonment of their persons destruction of the whole Cleargie wherof king Henrie the eight in the beginning of his Scisme gaue an horrible example Which iniquitie the Libeller him self is not ashamed to commend and to propound to other Princes for imitation Thes iniustices and the like may be by some Kinges committed and are as we haue said for peace and Charities sake borne by thē who are taught by their Maister and by the Apostolical Bishops of the primitiue Church to set more by one soule then by al the honours goods priuileges in the world otherwise So that God be honored whether causes at the first instance or by appeale onelie be differred to the Court of Rome or no whether the Pope Prince Cleargie or people appoint the Pastours or no a thing diuerslie vsed in diuers ages the Church can beare al and turne al to good so long as the true Faith and substance of Ecclesiastical iurisdiction be not destroied Wherin yet this may be comfortable to al obedient children of the Church Ecclesiastical restraintes haue not proued so profitable and worthie to be considered of discret persons that in al or surelie in most part of such limitations restraintes diminishinges or alteratiō of the Popes Churches authoritie thinges haue afterwardes so fallen out that wise men hartilie wish no change euer had bene made And for the euidence therof we refere al men to the pondering of this one point speciallie amongst manie concerning the nominations and elections of Bishopes Abbots and other Prelates whether the world wēt not as wel when such thinges passed by canonical election or the Popes prouision as it hath done since or hereafter euer is like to doe At the beginning of such alterations men pretended reasons for the particular Churches commodities of sondrie Nations which a few yeares experience and the euent of thinges haue in most matters controuled But were it wel or euil it can nether be example nor warrant to our present Contrie to destroy Abbeis kil the religious murder Gods Priestes imprison al the sacred persons of Bishops through out the Realme to hate blaspheme abolish al authoritie and iurisdiction Apostolical yea and to make a solemne publique prayer in the litanie That God vvould deliuer our Country from the Pope in stead of that which the whole Christian world deuoutlie singeth and saieth daylie Vt Dominum Apostolicum omnes ecclesiasticos ordines in sancta religione conseruare digneris Barbarous malice of English Heretiques against the Sea Apostolique Would anie man thinke that ether they should fal to such barbarousnes or to such impudencie as to defend so grosse impietie by the examples of other Catholique Kinges Contries and times in the cases aforesaid Or can it be possible they could imagine the difference betwene K. Henrie the vij and the Pope that then was The grosnes of the Libeller about a matter of Alume should warrant her Maiesty that now is or her Councellours to stand against the high Priest of God and to goe to lawe with him for his spiritual Prelacie What a Grossehead is this Libeller or rather what a deceiptful person for he can not be so rude as not to knowe the difference of thinges so farre distant that alleageth the warres sometimes fallen out betwixt certaine Popes and Princes about their temporal interests to proue that Catholique kinges care not for the Pope or that them selues may resist him by armes and contemne his authoritie in matters of Faith Religion Wherin his exāples also are very euil chosen when he goeth about to make vs beleeue that Charles the fift cared not for
the Popes Excommunication and Curse The sacking of Rome by the Duke of Burbon because his souldiars vnder the conduction of Burbon committed horrible violence and vilanie in the Citie of Rome against his Holines the Cardinals and al other whom they found ther as their pray Wher in deed the said noble Emperour though then verie yōg yet was nether cōsenting therunto nor had anie knowledge of the disorder til it was done purging him self therof afterward to the Pope verie humblie and the said Burbon author of that wicked enterprice by Gods mightie hand and iudgement and for a signe how highlie that impious fact displeased his diuine Maiestie was slaine sodenlie and as it is thought the first of al other vpon the wal of the suburbes Let al thos that take such examples take heed of the like endes As for the loialtie of the most Catholique King that now is of Spaine to the Sea Apostolique Touching the exāples of K. Philip and the Duke of Alua. notwith-standing what temporal differences soeuer haue fallen or may fal out betwene them it were to much idlenes to stand vpon against this fond wrangler And the Duke of Alua his Maiesties general behaued him self euen at that time when he had his armie before Rome as wel of his owne singular deuotiō as by his Kinges commaundement most religiouslie and honorablie without anie violence in the world or domage to the Citie other thē the waste of a few places of pleasure vines and orchardes about the wals for which this good felowe with whō we deale maketh much mone as it seemeth wher in deed he would rather haue wished the whole Citie bothe sacked and suncke for deuotion But thes Princes saith he cared not for the Popes Curses when they thus pursued their claimes both by armes and lawes The truth is that the Pope excommunicateth not euerie one that ether resisteth him in temporal quarels or matter of emolumentes of their peculiar Churches or Countries whether it be by lawes or armes and therfore ther is no cause why in such cases wher no censures are vsuallie published this Libeller should say Hovv the Pope and temporal Princes may contend in armes They regard no curses nor anathematizinges c. Nether thē also whē the iniurie done to holie Church or Apostolique sea seemeth so euident to the Pope that ther may appeare some reasonable cause of excommunicating the impugners the parties so censured in the contrarie side vpon perswasion of their right doe persist notwithstanding in the defence therof not then I say doe they contemne the censure as is vntruelie conceaued by the aduersarie but rather absteining from the holie Sacramentes and companie of such as to them by lawe are forbidden doe vse humble meanes towardes his Holines for his better information in the cause and doe seeke that the matter may be ended by good order of composition or arbitrament of other Princes and godly persons Or if in such causes of strife for worldlie commodities where the temporal Prince may sometimes ether haue the right on his side or seeme to him self in conscience or by the iudgemēt of godlie learned and indifferent men to haue it we graunt that he may without feare of Censures by armes or otherwise pursue his iust claime without impechement of his obedience in spiritual affaires may therfore sacrilegious persons as Heretiques Apostataes and open obstinate offendours contemne at their pleasures and violentlie resist the sentence of holie Church No ther is no match in thes matters What if the late Q. Marie of England staied the messinger of the Pope The example of Q. Marie ansvvered bringing a discharge of the late renouned Cardinal Poole from his authoritie Legantine and a Cardinals hat for a person though verie godlie yet knowen to be vnfit til his Holines might be better enformed of the man of the whole matter as immediatlie he was with al diligence and humilitie by the said most deuout Princesse should this be an example or encouragement to others of plaine disobedience and reuolt or wholie to abandone the Popes authoritie and to inuest a woman which is against nature in his Supremacie and spiritual charge ouer al her subiectes soules No surelie no more then of reason it should haue serued her Maiesties Councel sitting once in consultation together of the case to denie entrance to the Nuncio Apostolico The Nuncio Apostolico that came to summon to the General Counsel denied to enter Englād sent by Pius quartus about the third yeare of her Highnes raigne to require and beseech her in God to send some of her learned men to the general Councel of Trent then in hand as most other great Potentates of Christiantie did bringing with him a Safe-conduct for their peaceable passage audience and intertainment notwithstanding their contrarie religion and faction So did the English Counsel thē make their aduantage of that vnlike fact of the late noble Queene at once both to mainteine their vnlike seperation from the Christiā world and the felowship of other Catholique kinges as also and that perhaps especiallie to couer the ignorance feare and insufficiencie of their Superintendentes The English Superintēdentes afraid to goe to the Councel of Trent who though her Maiesty and others of the Nobilitie were wel īclined to send some of them for the honour of the Realme yet for feare of burning as they pretended but indeed for feare of the Catholiques learning and their owne shame the good-felowes made al the sute vnder-hand they could that none might be inforced thither And so at length it was agreed and moreouer that his Holines Ambassadour should not so much as be heard or suffred to come within the Realme vpon the warrant I say of the forsaid vnlike example of the former Queene Mary Which also serueth them further euer since not onelie to renounce al the old authoritie power and interest of the Sea Apostolique ouer our Countrie and to make the cheefe Bishop therof a mere stranger as other worldlie Princes of the Prouinces about vs that haue nothing to doe with our affaires whos messingers yet and Ambassadours for needful entercours and mutual intelligence by the lawe of natiōs they willinglie admit ether in peace or warres as occasion serueth but also to make him a Diuel an Antichrist and worse then the Turke him self whos messingers as the world seeth may haue audiēce with them and good correspondence wheras the Pope can haue none Wherby is discouered the miserie of wicked Heresie and the extreme hatred that rebellious children doe beare to their mother whom they vnhappilie haue forsaken obstinatelie resist to their owne perdition And this shal be sufficient to shew how wrongfully vnreasonably this Libeller hath sought to defend their English general reuoult from the Church of Rome and their contempt of his Holines Censures by the examples of some Catholique Princes differences wordlie debates with certaine Popes prelates of
Emperour in regard of Pope Cornelius who was therfore afterward as al other his predecessours before him martired By the same promis and like assistance of the Holie-Ghost the same Sea hath worne out al the old Heretiques The Sea of Rome hath preuailed against al old Heretiques and their Persecutions of farre greater power pride and learning ●hen thes Protestātes be susteined not onely by some ●articular Princes of certaine prouinces but by di●ers most mightie Emperours persecuting the Catholique Bishops Priestes and other through the whole Romane world as heuilie as now some smaller Princes protestantes doe within the boundes of their dominions onelie The same Sea hath gone through al other distresses forreine and domestical standeth and florisheth now notwithstanding al the threates molition and machination of her forsakers in al vertue strength and glorie Neuer more loued honored and regarded of the Catholique Kinges in the world Neuer more reuerēced and obeyed of the Churches children neuer more feared of her forsakers As we may see by the desperate and most obstinate cours they take in our poore afflicted Countrie not so much thinking to defend them-selues by the dailie sheding of most innocent mens blood as baselie to wreake their inquēshable anger at the Sea of Rome The inquēshable rage of England against the Sea of Rome vvith their feare of the same which they feare must be the instrument of Christes rodde of iustice towardes them in time for forsaking the felouship therof in Christian Faith and Religion Them selues doubting that the stroke of this Excōmunication so often reuiued by them selues wil neuer in the ende fal voide as other wher we see it hath not though by the flatterie of a few yeares good fortune our men at home cry peace sport and securitie to the poore people perswading them that al is wel safe by the killing of a few Priestes when ther is no other way of sauing our beloued Countrie assuredlie from perdition both temporal and eternal but by repētance and humble crauing pardon of Gods Church If they could kil al the Cleargie true beleeuers in the world had the Popes owne person to doe their pleasure with him or could make away as many Popes one after an other as they haue done Priestes and as the first persecutours of our faith did martir yet could they not preuaile nor escape the hand of God reuenging alwaies at length thes Contempts Schismes Heresies and Apostasies with memorable punishment In warning wherof he geeueth vs a good admonition by his owne writ when he saith Ne dixeris peccaui et quid mihi accidit triste Altissimus enim est patiens redditor Eccle. 5. Doe not say I haue sinned and no misfortune hath fallen vpon me for the same God paieth home at length For that God is a patiēt restorer or payer So that God payeth home at length albeit with great patience and then taketh the saying of S. Austen place that he recompenseth his slownes with the greatnes of his punishment Into what desolatiō al Afrique was finally brought by the schisme and sect of the Donatists how the Heresie of the Arrians Plagues vpō Heresie after the wearisome toile almost of the whole world for many yeares discharged it self at length into Machometisme how the diuision of the Oriental Church from the Sea of Peter hath bene the losse of libertie and the eternal destruction of so manie noble most free and florishing Prouinces of that part no man can be ignorāt As also not see into what hazard and extreme perils thes deuilish doctrines of our dayes and the seditious folowers of the same haue brought the glorious kingdome of Fraunce with the states of Flaunders The peril of diuers kingdomes by this nevv Heresie Germanie Poole and most of the North partes of the world neere vnto vs. Which consideration draweth vs also into the doleful accompt of our English present feares and miseries and much more to the foresight of our calamities to come seeing clearlie by the recordes of our Countrie that no Nation hath oftener susteined general alteration of the state and gouernment then ours nor yet euer anie violent change or mutation but for some notable contempt of the house of God As appeareth by the sondrie inuasions and conquests made on vs and by the notes which Gildas the wise venerable Bede and other men of experience and foresight haue in their monumēts set doune which were too long and needles to rehearse Onelie this is euer to be borne in mind that when our kinges of England had good intelligence with the Pope and mutual offices of loue and honour passed betwixt them and our bodie politique and Ciuil magistrate had al godlie and charitable correspondence with the spiritual Common-wealth of Christs Church and the prelates therof then had we a most happie and victorious Contrie blessed of God with al spiritual and temporal benediction In such sort surelie that to remember onelie what grace and glorie our Realme hath receiued by ioining and submitting it self to the lawes and regiment of holie Church might make our hartes ioyful if the consideration of this our present infelicitie by seuering our selues from the same did not eftsoons turne al to inconsolable sorowe Truelie what so euer is or hath bene singular to our Countries honour ether in Church Citie The benefites honours of our Countrie by Catholique religion Vniuersitie College Schoole Monasterie Librarie or anie part of the Common-wealth not lest renouned in the world al came of the Catholique religion and the greatest part of the famous Prelates of our Natiō As likewise what pietie iustice fidelitie conscience deuotion feare of God peace order obedience truth and honestie was once in anie state of men it can be referred to no other but to the godlie discipline forcible doctrine and manifold graces of the Church and her holie Sacramentes as on the contrarie the waste of al goodnes is now by manie yeares experience found to proceed of the Protestantes not onelie fruitles but pernicious preachers and doctrine Who by inuading the old honorable roomes of most noble Prelates founded neither by them nor for them haue made pitiful spoile of the goodliest ecclesiastical states and monumentes Our miseries by Heresie almost in al Christendome And by taking away the dailie dreadful Sacrifice Confession chastitie fidelitie obedience humilitie order and al honestie of life and maners haue giuen our people doleful experience of the deadlie fruite of their schisme and reuolt from the Sea Apostolique and Catholique communion of the faithful world Which we are forced to treat of here more largelie through the importunate and odious vaunting of this Libeller concerning their felicitie vnwonted prosperitie in England since their breaking from the vnitie of the Church of Rome speciallie sith the Queene saith he was cursed and excommunicated by the Pope al matters haue gone luckelie Not talking at al of the Realme or peoples increase in
Cābridge as also your confessor Iewel of Salisburie had done the like in Oxford if he had not bene in time preuēted Were not al the packe of your Protestantes confederated or acquainted wyth Wiates conspiracie and open rebellion against their Prince and Countrie This is proued by their ovvne testimonie herafter with other wicked attemptes against the state of that time as they haue bene sithe wel neare against al the states and Prouinces Christened But of this you must needes heare more anone But it is a world to see the cunning winding of this Libeller for being ashamed as it seemeth or els in doubt of that which he had boldlie affirmed before now cometh to foist in a word to salue al as he thinketh and that is Anice shift That at their death they denied not their Q. c. And in such deceipt-ful cobling in of wordes he passeth no line lightlie without fraude But for answere herof we say that what they did at their death or the day after God knoweth but it is plaine that in their life they were notorious Rebels as most of that sect be And how manie of our men I pray you Sir of whos liues deathes so great nōbers can beare witnes denied their obedience or meeklie prayed not for the Q. at the verie place and tyme of their execution Euerie one of thē as they liued exemplarlie for dutie and loyal behauiour to al their superiours both temporal and spiritual so yeelded they their happie life and blood in al Apostolical patience peace and meeknes for the faith wherin they our countrie and al conuerted nations in the world were baptized for the verie same beleefe wherin th' olde glorious Martirs of Godes Church gaue vp their liues This Faithe this Church this Cause seuereth our true Martyrs from the notorious malefactors of the contrarie side And so giueth vs iust cause to cōplaine of persecution and th'enimie no reason at al of what number name obstinacie age or qualitie so euer they be that haue suffred for their Heresie THAT OVR PRIESTS AND CATHOLIQVE BRETHREN HAVE BEHAVED them selues discretlie and nothing seditiouslie ī their ansvvers to the questions of the Bul of Pius Quintus and that they can not laufullie be pressed nor put to death as traitors by the true meaning of th' olde lavves of the Realme for the same vvith examination of the six Articles proposed about the said Bul. CAP. IIII. IN times of heretical regiment wher Politiques haue al the gouernment though Religion be sometimes pretended as a thing wherof they make their aduauntage for th' affaires speciallie entended yet indeed the first and principal care is of their temporal state so consequentlie of the Princes and their owne wel being in this life the lote wherof The differēt gouernment of Politiques and of true Christians they often preferre with Esau before the weal of the world to come the blessing of Iacob or the kingdome of Christ which is his reigne regiment spiritual in the Church the howse of his glorie our saluation in earth Contrariwise in Christian Catholique common wealthes the cheefe respect is euer was as it ought to be of the honor of God the good of holie Church the saluation of the soules of their people and so to passe through thes secular thinges as eternal ioyes be not lost and put in hasard In which difference of thinges you shal easilie perceiue that in the dayes of disorder errour the faultes done against the Prince or so said to be done are far more odious and punishable then what so euer is directlie done against God against the Common wealth then against the Church against the bodie then against the soule more adoe about Caesars tribute then about Gods due As in the time and regiment of Hieroboam when al the care was how to manage matters so The gouernmēt of Ieroboam that the kingdome of Israel might be seuered from Iuda and so established in it self that no spiritual vnion by worship in Hierusalem might reduce the deuided tribes to their former state againe and al thīgs tendīg to that reuniō were greuouslie punished but matters of faith religion wholie contemned In our countrie when God and his kingdome had the first place the terrene state the second as in truth it ought to be wher it is otherwise whatsoeuer is pretended Christ hath no place at al then were the crimes committed against God first and principallie punished as blasphemie schisme and such like and secondlie treasons and trespasses done against the Prince countrie whereof Q. Maries dayes and regiment may be an example when without the forgerie of new or false treasons the latelie named Archbishop and other principal heretiques being conuicted of cōspiracie open traiterous actions might haue iustlie suffered for the same but yet were rather burned for Heresie as for their more heinous crime and which a Christian Prince ought to regard far more then anie thing committed against his Regalitie But now and euer when the Superioritie temporal hath the preeminence the spiritual is but accessorie dependent and wholie vpholden of thother errour in Fayth is litle accompted of what so euer their pulpit men to make them selues and their patrons sport bral of such matters and al our doings endeuours and exercises of Religion are drawen to treasons and trespasses against the Queene them selues protesting in al their doings that they medle not with vs for our doctrine what-soeuer therby ether insinuating that our religion is true and in deed by the iudgement of their owne conscience not punishable or els that they care not for it nor what we beleeue no further then toucheth their Prince temporal weal wherin yet they wipe so hard as they draw blood For finding no errors heresies A nevv deuise of our Persecutors or false opinions concerning God his worship worthie to cōdemne vs of being ashamed of their statutes of new treasons as it seemeth they haue found out a new fault and a terme for the same not vsual ether in writers of our schooles and diuinitie or in their owne lawes which they cal trayterous assertions treasonable malicious opinions against the Q. as in a former like pamphlet euil affection or euil disposition towardes her Maiestie which is now the onelie and proper point they pursue against vs both in iudgement and writing For which as of late they haue put diuers to death so by the same they trie as they say whither Papistes be traytors or no and accordinglie to vse them And for better trial therof they propose vnto al men whom they list make away or otherwise indanger certaine demandes which in effect are thes that ensue Whether the Bul of Pius Quintus against the Q. Maiesty be a lauful sentence and ought to be obeyed by the subiects of England Demandes proposed to Catholikes for their intrapping Whether the Q. Maiesty be a lauful Q. and