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that_o he_o believe_v in_o his_o conscience_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v s._n peter_n successor_n and_o the_o head_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o that_o although_o material_a and_o worldly_a key_n may_v open_v and_o shut_v upon_o favour_n and_o friendship_n yet_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n do_v respect_v no_o man_n person_n be_v they_o poor_a or_o rich_a noble_a or_o ignoble_a high_a or_o low_o king_n or_o subject_n so_o as_o in_o his_o judgement_n none_o may_v be_v exempt_v from_o the_o pope_n excommunication_n when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n upon_o due_a consideration_n of_o all_o circumstance_n to_o inflict_v it_o add_v thereunto_o that_o he_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o christian_a king_n and_o prince_n to_o submit_v themselves_o in_o cause_n of_o religion_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o unto_o their_o chief_a bishop_n and_o pastor_n of_o their_o soul_n which_o profession_n thus_o make_v this_o examinate_v desire_v that_o one_o point_n in_o his_o former_a examination_n publish_v in_o print_n may_v here_o be_v receive_v as_o part_v of_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n above_o specify_v sect._n 16._o 39_o for_o there_o this_o examinat_fw-la as_o he_o true_o say_v 19_o m_o blakwels_n exam._n pag._n 18_o 19_o be_v urge_v to_o explicate_v himself_o touch_v the_o sense_n he_o rely_v upon_o out_o of_o his_o majesty_n word_n when_o he_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n in_o that_o it_o be_v say_v he_o may_v so_o understand_v they_o as_o not_o withstand_v his_o oath_n that_o duty_n which_o be_v expect_v be_v no_o way_n satisfy_v because_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n be_v evident_a that_o he_o do_v account_v it_o to_o proceed_v from_o appetite_n and_o rashness_n in_o any_o of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n whosoever_o who_o presume_v to_o excommunicate_v any_o king_n shall_v by_o the_o same_o either_o absolve_v his_o subject_n from_o their_o obedience_n or_o excite_v they_o to_o bear_v arm_n against_o he_o or_o authorise_v
they_o to_o lay_v violent_a hand_n upon_o his_o person_n or_o to_o stir_v up_o any_o sedition_n or_o tumult_n within_o his_o kingdom_n or_o to_o assist_v any_o that_o shall_v make_v such_o attempt_n either_o against_o the_o king_n or_o the_o state_n of_o the_o kingdom_n he_o this_o examinate_v answer_v now_o as_o he_o answer_v then_o for_o the_o further_o open_v of_o his_o meaning_n say_v his_o judgement_n be_v that_o no_o lawful_a excommunication_n term_v either_o excommunicatio_fw-la maior_fw-la the_o great_a excommunication_n or_o ecclesiastical_a curse_n of_o anathematization_n can_v produce_v such_o effect_n or_o aught_o to_o enforce_v the_o same_o and_o that_o he_o agree_v therein_o with_o many_o sound_a catholic_a writer_n as_o he_o think_v and_o particular_o with_o these_o follow_v and_o so_o draw_v out_o his_o pocket-note_n as_o oft_o upon_o sundry_a occasion_n he_o do_v he_o cause_v their_o word_n to_o be_v set_v down_o for_o the_o better_a declaration_n of_o his_o duty_n excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la excommunicatum_fw-la facere_fw-la potest_fw-la eaque_fw-la fulminatur_fw-la in_o principes_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la tyranni_fw-la fiant_fw-la neque_fw-la ut_fw-la suis_fw-la ditionibus_fw-la removeantur_fw-la neque_fw-la ut_fw-la subiectis_fw-la laxentur_fw-la habene_fw-la vel_fw-la juratâ_fw-la fide_fw-la liberentur_fw-la that_o be_v a_o excommunication_n can_v but_o make_v a_o man_n excommunicate_v and_o it_o be_v thunder_v against_o prince_n not_o to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o shall_v thereby_o become_v tyrant_n or_o be_v remoove_v from_o their_o dominion_n or_o that_o the_o ruin_n shall_v be_v loose_v unto_o subject_n or_o they_o be_v free_v from_o the_o oath_n of_o their_o fidelity_n ludou_n richeome_v in_o apologet._n pa_n 175._o and_o again_o soto_n 4._o medina_n in_o primam_fw-la secundae_fw-la pag._n 513._o q_o 96._o art_n 4._o say_v as_o medina_n do_v allege_v he_o quod_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la privatio_fw-la alicuius_fw-la boni_fw-la proprij_fw-la quod_fw-la transgressor_n legis_fw-la prius_fw-la posseder_n at_o sed_fw-la est_fw-la privatio_fw-la bonorum_fw-la communium_fw-la quae_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la crat_fw-mi percepturus_fw-la ut_fw-la communionis_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la &_o receptionis_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la that_o be_v excommunication_n be_v not_o the_o privation_n of_o any_o proper_a or_o peculiar_a good_a whereof_o the_o transgressor_n of_o the_o law_n be_v former_o possess_v but_o of_o those_o common_a benefit_n which_o he_o shall_v have_v reap_v from_o the_o church_n as_o of_o the_o spiritual_a communion_n and_o receive_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o s._n thomas_n say_v 3._o tho._n aquin._n secunda_fw-la secuudae_fw-la q._n 11._o art_n 3._o aliud_fw-la est_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la &_o aliud_fw-la eradicatio_fw-la excommunication_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o eradication_n another_o which_o be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o canon_n law_n of_o a_o epistle_n of_o pope_n vrbane_n where_o it_o be_v say_v liquidò_fw-la apparet_fw-la aliud_fw-la esse_fw-la excommunicationem_fw-la aliud_fw-la eradicationem_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la excommunicatur_fw-la ut_fw-la apostolus_fw-la 37._o decret_n 2._o part_n cause_n 24._o q._n 3._o cap._n 37._o ait_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la excommunicatur_fw-la ut_fw-la spiritus_fw-la eius_fw-la salnus_fw-la fiat_fw-la in_o die_fw-la domini_fw-la disciplina_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la &_o non_fw-la eradicatio_fw-la that_o be_v it_o do_v plain_o appear_v that_o excommunication_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o eradication_n another_o for_o he_o which_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v as_o the_o apostle_n say_v to_o this_o end_n excommunicate_v that_o his_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o excommunication_n be_v a_o correction_n and_o not_o a_o extirpation_n so_o as_o this_o examinate_v here_o say_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o have_v before_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o pope_n possession_n nor_o any_o more_o subject_a unto_o he_o than_o other_o christian_a kingdom_n be_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o imperial_a or_o civil_a authority_n to_o depose_v his_o majesty_n and_o that_o the_o pope_n excommunication_n which_o be_v the_o chief_a censure_n of_o his_o spiritual_a authority_n can_v bring_v forth_o no_o such_o effect_n as_o be_v suppose_v in_o the_o say_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n viz._n neither_o deposition_n eradication_n absolution_n of_o subject_n from_o their_o obedience_n nor_o any_o sufficient_a warrant_v either_o to_o rebel_v or_o to_o lay_v violent_a hand_n upon_o any_o king_n he_o this_o examinat_fw-la be_v persuade_v that_o little_o more_o can_v be_v require_v at_o his_o hand_n in_o answer_n of_o the_o say_v main_a objection_n touch_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o oath_n according_a to_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o majesty_n speech_n insinuate_v as_o be_v above_o say_v by_o he_o this_o examinate_a unto_o the_o cardinal_n 40_o before_o the_o further_a press_v of_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o all_o that_o hitherto_o he_o have_v say_v for_o the_o clear_n of_o the_o say_a objection_n sect._n 35._o for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o his_o last_o speech_n touch_v excommunication_n he_o say_v that_o excommunication_n can_v bring_v forth_o no_o such_o fruit_n as_o he_o there_o recite_v it_o be_v demand_v of_o he_o how_o that_o his_o assertion_n can_v agree_v with_o these_o point_n of_o popish_a doctrine_n publish_v by_o a_o classical_a author_n of_o the_o romish_a sect_n where_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v by_o sundry_a reason_n that_o henry_n 3._o be_v king_n of_o france_n stand_v diverse_a year_n excommunicate_v before_o he_o be_v murder_v as_o have_v commit_v many_o offence_n which_o be_v subject_a ipso_fw-la jure_fw-la to_o diverse_a excommunication_n as_o namely_o that_o of_o the_o bull_n coenae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la some_o of_o which_o fault_n he_o set_v down_o to_o be_v these_o follow_v show_v 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the_o say_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o then_o this_o examinate_v further_o say_v that_o the_o same_o will_v be_v build_v upon_o this_o false_a ground_n that_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n do_v include_v the_o oath_n against_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o he_o forsee_v already_o by_o the_o cardinal_n letter_n unto_o he_o and_o by_o the_o say_v cristanovic_n who_o have_v set_v down_o the_o say_a oath_n at_o large_a write_v thus_o quod_fw-la iuramentum_fw-la de_fw-fr primatu_fw-la regis_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la and_o what_o oath_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n in_o cause_n spiritual_a &_o that_o therefore_o if_o any_o such_o resolution_n come_v authentical_o as_o be_v aforesaid_a the_o same_o as_o all_o catholic_n be_v to_o judge_v of_o the_o pope_n sincerity_n be_v procure_v by_o surreption_n and_o false_a suggestion_n ad_fw-la destructionem_fw-la to_o destruction_n no_o catholic_a be_v bind_v to_o be_v overruled_n by_o it_o but_o the_o same_o 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ecclesiâ_fw-la scil_n cùm_fw-la apostoli_fw-la loquerentur_fw-la non_fw-la respondit_fw-la dominus_fw-la nimis_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la satis_fw-la certè_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o potestate_fw-la petri_n temporalem_fw-la gladium_fw-la esse_fw-la negate_fw-la malè_fw-la verbum_fw-la attendit_fw-la domini_fw-la proferentis_fw-la convert_v gladium_fw-la tuum_fw-la in_o vaginam_fw-la uterque_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la in_o potestate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la scil_n &_o materialis_fw-la that_o be_v we_o be_v warrant_v by_o the_o wòrd_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o in_o his_o power_n be_v two_o sword_n the_o one_o spiritual_a the_o other_o temporal_a for_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v behold_v here_o be_v two_o sword_n mean_v in_o the_o church_n since_o the_o apostle_n speak_v it_o christ_n reply_v not_o it_o be_v too_o much_o but_o it_o be_v enough_o assure_o whosoever_o deni_v that_o the_o temporal_a sword_n be_v in_o s._n peter_n power_n he_o do_v not_o well_o mark_v the_o 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