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A11786 An Experimentall discoverie of Spanish practises, or, The Counsell of a well-wishing souldier, for the good of his prince and state wherein is manifested from known experience, both the cruelty, and policy of the Spaniard, to effect his own ends : chiefly swelling with multiplicity of glorious titles, as one of the greatest monarchs of the earth, that being admired of all, his greatnesse might amaze all, and so by degrees seeking covertly to tyrannize over all, when as indeed and truth, the greatest part of his pretended greatnesse is but a windy crack of an ambitious minde. Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626.; Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650? 1623 (1623) STC 22077; ESTC S1713 30,960 58

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renoumed Soveraigne the world will not faile to taxe you with such carelessnesse and improvidence as I hope shall never haue any affinity with your most Excellent Majestie or any other of your Royall Off-spring that shall sway the Scepter of this noble I le And therefore my gracious Lord in my judgement you ought to doe in this so great a matter of State as concluding a peace with so dangerous enemies as the Spanish Nation as good and wise Carpenters seeme to doe in substantiall buildings which is to make a sure foundation lest by aspiring minde or breach of the enemie you be overthrowne And whereas he saith in the foregoing project that hee hath right and good title to the Crowne of England by vertue of his Grandfather and Predecessours which I know to be otherwise yet contrarily can I proue your Majestie by the vertue of your Grandfather of famous memory Henry the 7 to bee as rightfull Heire to all the firme land of the Indies as the King of Spaine is to the Ilands of Cuba Iannura and Hispaniola with the rest of the Ilands of Lucaites Grante and Antile and for that it is not inconvenient fully to take notice and understand how these Kings intitles themselues their Successors to the right and Signiories of the Indies I haue thought good to set downe my opinion how many wayes they doe or may take their claim And first by discovery secondly by the Popes gift thirdly by consent of the people fourthly by conquest and consent So as if neither of these be able to proue or giue a good and sufficient title or at least such a one as may barre you and other Princes that will to inhabite in those parts I know no reason why your Majestie should not doe as he hath done that is to possesse as much as you can of those Heathen Countries especially where the Spaniard is not feared nor hath no command whereby you might not onely propagate the Christian faith amongst those Pagans and infidels as you are bound to doe as much as you can but a golden world to the Crowne of England wherby you be more enabled as well to undertake a forraigne warre against the enemy of the Christian name as also to make your State the more strong by the Indian treasures against such of your neighbours as shall envie your Highnesse And therefore to come to this Title If he claime his interest by possession and first Discovery which doubtlesse must be the strongest title that he can challenge then your Majestie hath as much title for all the firme land of the Indies as he hath for these Ilands before named As for proofe of this the Captaines of Henry the 7 being Sebastian Cabot and his companions discovered the Iland of the Indies on the north part of the Indies from 60 degrees coasting the north latitude the very yeare before Christian Columbus discovered the high land of Dania on the south part of the Indies which was the first day that ever the Spaniards saw the maine and tooke possession of that new Discovery in the behalfe of Henry the 7 and his successours their Lord and Master So as if first Discovery and Possession be his Title your Majestie preceding him in that said Title must necessarily precede him in the right thereof If he claime it by the gift of Pope Alexander the sixth then it must be argued whether the said Pope had power to giue it yea or no if not then the gift is voide in it selfe if yea he must proue it either by Divine or Humane Argument for Humane he cannot for that no way belonged to him or any other Christian Prince or Potentate at that time nor were so much as ever heard of before that present Discovery of Columbus upon which the gift was made in the yeare of grace 1492. All things never knowne to him or his Ancestors can no way of right belong to him or them so as not belonging to him directly or by circumstance hee had no right to giue or dispose thereof either in present or future and thus for Humane For Divine Arguments if he say he gaue them as Christs Vicar whereby he may dispose of Kings or Kingdoms he must proue that authority by the word of God or else we are not bound to beleeue him or thinke his gift of any value As for example if hee be but Christs seruant here on earth hee must challenge to himselfe no more prerogatiue then his Master tooke on him whilst he was on earth for if hee doe it is a great token of pride and arrogancie And our Saviour being but requested to make a lawfull division of a certaine inheritance betwixt one and his brother refused to doe it saying Who made me a Iudge over you as also he confessed openly to Pilate That his Kingdome is not of this world Why then doth the Pope who acknowledgeth himselfe to be no better then his servant take upon him the giuing of so many Kingdomes of this world But the Pope say they gaue Ireland to Henry the 2 and his successours and indeed they did so in word but when had he it when he had fast footing in it and when Dernitius the King of Lemster had made the King of England his Heire But for all that donation had not the Kings of this land but the sharpnesse of the sword more prevailed then by this gift the Popes donatiō had stood in little stead neither did the rest of the Irish Kings admit or allow of the Popes Donation for if they had they would never haue rebelled so often against this Crowne But to conclude this point though we confesse that the Popes haue done this or that yet it is no good argument in my opinion to say that they did it and therefore it was lawfull unlesse they could shew they did it rightfully But the Popes gift of the West Indies may well be compared to the Sermon of Iudge Molineux his Chaplin in Queen Maries dayes who would make it appeare by a linely text out of the Scripture to his Parishioners what a lying knaue the divell was and for his Text he tooke the place where the divell tooke Christ and carried him up to the mountaine from whenc he shewed him all the Kingdoms of the world told him if he would fal downe and worship him he would giue them all unto him My Masters quoth he by this you may well perceiue what a lyer he is for he had no more right to haue given him these Kingdomes if he would haue fallen down and worshipt him then my selfe that am now in the Pulpit If I should say to you all now Sirs if you will all fall downe and worship me before I goe out of the Church I will giue every man his Copie-hold for ever which if I should doe I should giue you your livings in words But my Masters quoth he that sit there below to whom they belong would take them from
when it hath reference not onely to the offended part or member but further to cut off the roote of the evill And therefore if your Majesty shall enter into the conquest of the Netherlands you but peradventure cure the wounds of that rebellion but you shall not evacuate the causes of the beginnings of these ill humors which haue dayly sent nourishment to the disease considering England is the place which hath given sustenance to the rebellious States And though these Provinces were yours for this present disposition yet what can that be in a body subject to continuall suggestion of matter which in it owne nature presenteth in the stomack some portion of offensiue humour Your Majestie must therfore necessarily assault England to the end you may afterwards either securely digest or evacuate these concourses But to discourse more at large of the facility of the enterprise I deny not truely but that England is a very mighty Kingdome and the greatest Iland that ever wee finde any mention made of by the Ancients seeing it containeth Scotland within the same running 2000 miles in a circuit although our moderne Writers make a computation of 200 lesse By Nature it hath beene favoured with a security of a wall or with a rampart but yet notwithstanding it is most true that the reputation that that Iland holdeth in warlike actions is rather grounded on that it was in time past then that which it hath at this present and therefore as it often happeneth the minde growne great with the bundles of imaginations wherewith it is maintained though the foundation whereon it dependeth be changed and diminished Yet for all that is the estimation of England great in our mindes because wee all behold it with the selfe same eye of consideration as wee are wont to doe at all other times when as in ancient for succession of more then 300 years it possessed Normandie Britaine Gutenne and Gascoigne and made Scotland tributary and for a long time enjoyed the most part of the Kingdome of France upon which Henry the 6 was publiquely crowned at Paris But those that haue diligently observed her now when shee is deprived of so great forces and aide will judge that she is greater through the reputation of her ancient fame then for the quality of her persent power and force and that shee is now no more England so grievous and terrible to the greatest Princes of Europe and since that with so unhappy a resolution shee fell into obscurity shee hath beene driven of necessity to submit her selfe to those fearefull things which alteration of Religion and faith draw after them A most mighty and prevailent meanes to the ruine and declination of States For if Religion be the onely base of all the peoples obedience and loyalty who doubteth but that being removed all rule of life goeth to the ground and together all lawes both Divine and Humane haue dispensation In which parties or rather habites of this most pernicious beast are most miserable how much the mutations haue beene sudden and violent as aboue all other these of England haue beene which from the height of Religion threw it selfe headlong into the depth of Infidelity from whence rising againe into the Catholike light from whence it came and a fresh to fall ruinously into the darknesse of heresie which is so prejudiciall unto States as there is no greater pestilencie or that more weakens the sollidity of their forces England therefore in these outragious stormes must needs haue suffered ship wrack of which we may plainely see the effects if wee doe but obserue shee hath lost the foundation whereupon no lesse her reputation then security was grounded that is shee hath lost the power and authority which sometimes shee had in sea-affaires for in times past this Iland maintained a great number of Shippes and kept a continuall Fleete of Armes whereupon it came to passe that minding to try the strength of her owne forces the preparation was admirable amongst others wee may see that when Henry the sixth of England went against Charles the sixth of France with neere eight hundred great Ships which made a bridge over the Ocean but the quantity of that Iland is so diverse and changed that since the dayes of Henry seventh and eighth it hath not beene able to maintaine one hundred ordinary Ships which it was wont to wey and haue in readinesse for the security of the State and further this Iland hath been put to such pinches that they haue not onely beene constrained to diminish but to sell out-right a great part of their Shipping which both was and is their onely securitie from forraigne danger so much more urgent in Princes is feare of present poverty then the respect of their future safety So that now comming to resolue on the point of facility that your Majesty shall now finde in that Enterprise against this Iland I will offer to your Highnesse two principall heads the one of the Defendant the other of the Assaylant whereby I will shew that the assayled is as unable to defend as the Defendant is to assayle As for the Defendant which is the Kingdome of England it may certainly be averred that it cannot stand out in defensiue warre against the forces of your Majestie if you will but invade it with the prouisions which is easie for you to compasse and such as the Enterprise and importance of the action requireth the which I will cleerely shew for diuers respect The first is because as I haue said the I le of England is poore and therefore is her debility such as if she should go about to manage a defensiue was against so mighty and potent as your Catholike Majestie she might as well goe about to sustaine heaven on her shoulders being neither Alcides nor Atlas The second is for the consideration of the necessitie which possesseth there the State of England hath no more in readinesse such number of shippes as were sometimes maintained for the protection and security of their Kingdome The third is that the Kingdom of England by carelesnesse neglected or by pouertie omitted to haue alwayes in readinesse prepared or practised Men Armes or provision as all other Princes haue to the end they may be a present remedy to all suddain Insurrections which groweth either at home or abroad The fourth is because the desire of Innovation is proper to the Kingdome whose mindes doe alwaies aspire after change and whosoever doth not obserue former histories will judge that her seditious conspiracies and every other effect of a disturbed and moving minde haue had their proper nest being stirred up with considerations which being accompanied with the ordinary dispositiō of the people to be alwaies attempting of new things may easily of a suddaine if it were assaulted put the Realme into confusion especially when the Army of so mightie an enemie as your Majestie shall present it selfe whereby rebels may liberally discover their hearts without being chastised So as