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A02548 The honor of the married clergie, maintayned against the malicious challenges of C.E. Masse-priest: or. The apologie written some yeeres since for the marriage of persons ecclesiasticall made good against the cauils of C.E. pseudo-Catholik priest. In three books. By Ios. Hall, D. of Diuin. Deane of Worcest. Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536. An liceat sacerdotibus inire matrimonia. 1620 (1620) STC 12674; ESTC S119011 135,526 384

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can it choose but rise ouer the banks There is puritie therefore out of Wedlocke but not out of Continence And what needed my Detector to trauel so farre as England for an example of incontinency in a King Henrie or any wife of his whether falsely or truly obiected when hee might haue looked neerer the centre of their Church and haue found his owne Pope Iohn in the very time now questioned for this prohibition killed by the Deuill in the act of adulterie with another mans wife This end of the Wallet hangs behind him SECT VIII HIldebrand as I learned of Auentine is as much as Titio Amoris But how little hee differed in name or nature from Hellebrand Titio infernalis as Chemnitius calls him his Historie shewes too well And is it possible that any man should rise vp after so many hundred yeeres to Canonize Saint Hildebrand euen in that for which h● condemned himselfe My Reader must know the man a little from the witnesse of his owne Conclaue his Cardinall Benno Archpriest of the Roman Church then liuing Others besides tell of his beginnings in wicked Necromancy and murderous vnderminings and tyrannicall swaying of the Keyes ere he had them Benno tells how he got them how he vsed them gotten Hee got them by fraud mony violence vsed them with tyrannie There was a knot and a succession of Necromancers in those dayes Gerberius which was Syluester the second was the Master of the schole His chiefe Schoilers in the blacke Arte were Theophylactus afterwards changed into Pope Benedict and Laurentius and Gratianus These were the Tutors of Hildebrands yonger times of whom hee learned both Magike and Policy It is a world to see what worke these Magicians made like the ill spirits they raysed in Church and Common-wealth opposing Emperors setting vp what Popes they pleased poysoning whom they disliked At last it came to Hildebrands turne to take the Chaire To which purpose he separated first the Bishops from the Cardinals auerse from him when he had done he compelled them by terror and force to sweare unto his part which done hee was elected in spight of the Canons only by Lay persons by Souldiers he expelled the Cardinals ●ashly excommunicated the Emperor of his owne head without any Canonicall accusation without subscription of any Cardinall hyred a bloudy Villaine to murder the Emperour consulted with the Oracle of his breaden God which because it answered not hee cast it into the fire hee exercised most horrible cruelties vpon many hanging vp men at his pleasure vnconuicted in a word quantis haeresibus mundum corruperit c saith Benno in his conclusion His heresies his periuries can scarce be described by many Pens Clamat tamen altiùs c. But the Christian bloud shed by his instigation and command saith he cryes yet lowder to God yea the bloud of the Church which the sword of his tongue in a miserable prodition hath shed cryes out against him for which things the Church did most iustly depart from all communion with him Thus Benno who yet to make amends tells vs that Hildebrand vpon his death-bed repented of these lewd courses and sent to the Emperor and the Church to cry them mercy confessing as Sigibert reports that he had by the suasion of the Deuill raysed these wicked tumults Yet this is the man whom Bellarmine will iustifie by seuen and twentie Authors and C. E. can adde two more to the heape yea in those very things for which hee condemned himselfe Reader if one of his euill spirits should haue stept into Peters chaire doe yee thinke hee could haue wanted Proctors But how good an account we were like to haue of seuen and twentie Authours if it would requite the cost to examine them appeares in that Lambertus Schafnaburgensis which is cited for the man that magnifies the miracles of this Gregory sayes not one such word of him but speaks indeed the like of one Anno Archbishop of Coleine who liued and dyed in the time of Gregory As for Gregories miracles Benno the Cardinall tells vs what they were that hee raysed Deuils familiarly that hee shaked sparks of fire out of his sleeue by his magike A tricke that well beseemed an Hellebrand who set all the world on fire by his wicked impetuositie Wee will not enuy Rome this Saint let them inioy him let them celebrate him and cry downe Henry the Emperour and all that opposed him Still may such as these be the Tutelar gods of that holy Citie For vs it is comfort enough to vs that our marriages had such a persecutor That the Churches did hereupon ring of him for Antichrist Auentine is my author Pro concione c. In their sermons saith he they did curse HILDEBRAND they cryed out on him as a man transported with hatred and ambition Antichristum esse praedicant They declared him to be Antichrist They said that vnder the colourable title of Christ he did the seruice of Antichrist That hee sits in Babylon in the Temple of God and is aduanced aboue all that is called God So he And little better is that which his Schafnaburgensis so much extolled by C. E. recordeth Aduersus hoc decretum infremuit tota factio Clericorum c. Against this Decree saith he all the whole faction of Clergy men fretted and mutined accusing him as an Heretike and a man of peruerse opinion who forgetting the Word of Christ which said All men cannot receiue this did by a violent exaction compell men to liue in the fashion of Angels To which if I should adde the sentence of the Synod of Wormes and that of Brixia my Reader would easily see that it is not the applause of some deuoted Pen that can free him from these foule imputations of deserued infamie That vntruth then cleered another belike hangs vpon the score My Refuter charges mee with falsehood in saying That GREGORY the seuenth was deposed by the French and German Bishops Only the Germans hee saith were Actors in that Tragedie But if not at Wormes yet let him tell mee what was done at Brixia and by whom Quamobrem Italiae Germaniae Galliae Pontifices c. Wherefore saith AVENTINVS the Bishops of Italy Germany and France the seuenth of the Kalends of Iuly met at Brixia in Bauaria and sentenced HILDEBRAND to haue spoken and done against Christian pietie c. and condemned him of heresie impietie sacriledge c. And that my Refuter may find himselfe answered at once to the last of his Cauils wherein hee pleads that this deposition was not so much as pretended for the inhibition of these marriages but for other causes let him see the Copie of the iudgement passed against him in the said Councell wherein after the accusation of his Simoniacall climing into the Chaire the vice which he pretended most to persecute in others his forceable possession his heresie his machinations against the
that bookish eye witnesse the next passage which if his Superiors could haue had the leysure to haue viewed they had blushed at their Champion This charge of GREGORY I said was according to that rule of Clerks cited from ISIDORE and renewed in the Councel of Mentz but by our iuggling Aduersaries clipped in the recitall Here the man cryes out as before of forgerie so now of ignorance telling his Readers that I haue only taken this vpon trust from anothers note-booke Reader by this iudge of the spirit of my Detractor It is true Isidore wrote no Booke of this title But in the second Booke of his Ecclesiasticall Offices he makes the title of his second Chapter De Regulis Clericorum Of the Rules of Clerks From this Chapter I cite a confessed passage and am thus censured whereas the Councell of Mentz cites it by this very stile Sicut in Regulâ Clericorum dictum est As it is said in the Rule of Clerks Is it simplicitie that he knowes not this title of Isidore or maliciousnesse that hee conceales it One of them is vnauoidable It is cleere then to his shame if hee haue any that the testimonie is aright cited and is it lesse cleere that it is maymed and cut off by the hammes in their Moguntine Councell Compare the places the fraud shall be manifest That Councell in the tenth Chapter professes to transcribe verbatim the words of Isidore in the fore-cited Tract and where Isidore saith Castimoniam inuiolati 2corporis perpetuò conseruare studcant aut certè vnius matrimony vinculo foederentur Let them liue chaste or marry but one Their good Clerks haue vtterly left out the latter clause and make Isidore charge his Clerks with perpetuall continency Let them liue chaste He that denyes this let him deny that there is a Sunne in the heauen or light in that Sunne what need I say more Let the Books speake Here my Refuter doth so shuffle cut that any man may see hee speaks against his owne heart for to omit his strayned misse-interpretation of Isidore since wee now contend not of the sense but of the citation how poorely doth hee salue vp the credit of his Moguntine Fathers whiles he saith ISIDORE spake in generall the Fathers in that Councell more strictly when he that hath but one halfe of an eye may see that both speake in one latitude of the same persons Those Fathers giuing the same title to that Chapter and professing to follow the Letters and Syllables of Isidore both name onely Clericos in that rule without distinction Away then with this gracelesse facing of wilfull frauds in your faithlesse Secretaries which haue also fetcht two Canons out of Carthage to Wormes and learne to bee ashamed of your grosse falsifications and iniurious expurgations else doubtlesse the World will be ashamed of you SECT II. I Did but name Huldericus his Epistle in mine as a witnesse not as the foundation of my cause my Refuter spends but one and thirtie whole Pages vpon him How else should he haue made a Volume In all this what sayes hee Little in many words and the same words thrice ouer for fayling And first hee wonders at my extreme prodigalitie of credit and fearednesse of conscience in citing an Epistle so conuicted by Bellarmine Baronius Eckius Faber Fitz-Simons the Iesuite and others Why doth he not wonder that the Moone will keepe her pace in the skie whiles so many Dogs barke at her below When these Proctors of Rome haue said their worst there is more true authoritie in the very face of this Letter and better Arguments in the body of it then in an hundred Decretal Epistles which he adoreth Let the World wonder rather at his shamelesnesse who relating the occasion of this fable as he termes it faynes it to be only a Lutheran fiction to couer their incestuous marriages whereas their owne Cardinall Aeneas Syluius almost two hundred yeeres agoe mentions it and reports the argument of it whereas it is yet extant as Illyricus in the Libraries of Germany whereas Hedio found an ancient Copie of it in Holland and our Iohn Bale Archbishop Parker B. Iewell Io. Foxe had a Copie of it remarkeable for reuerend Antiquitie in aged Parchment here in England which I hope to haue the meanes to produce Whereas lastly the very stile importeth age As well may hee question all the Records of their Vatican all report of Histories all Histories of Times He that would doubt whether such an Epistle were written may as well doubt whether Pope Zachary wrote to B. Boniface in Germany a direction when to eate Bacon may doubt whether Paul the fift wrote to his English Catholikes to perswade them not to sweare they would be good Subiects may doubt whether Spider-catcher corner-creeper C.E. Pseudo-Catholike Priest wrote a scurrilous Letter of aboue two quire of Paper in a twelue-yeers-answer to three leaues of I.H. It is not more sure that there is a Rome or that Gregory and Nicholas sate there then that such an Epistle was written thither aboue seuen hundred yeeres agoe It was extant of old before euer those Lutheran quarrels were hatched Let him therefore goe fish for Frogs in the Pond of his Gregory whiles hee deriues thence the vaine pleas of improbabilitie If there were differences in relating the circumstances of that storie as I know none must it needs thereupon bee false Which of their Histories is not lyable to varietie of report To begin with the first The succession of Linus and Cletus and Clemens is diuersly reported is there no truth in it To end with the last The Title of Paul the Fift to the Chane of Peter in the lawfulnesse of his Election is diuersly reported hath he therefore no true clayme to his Seate But who euer placed Gregories Pond in Sicilie This is one of the fittens of his Fitz-Simons If other Authours haue mentioned this narration then all the strength of this Historie lyeth not on Huldericke If none besides him his words vary not These are but Trickes to out-●ace Truth The Epistle in spight of Contradiction is so ancient and what c● wee then for names Whether ● were Saint Vdalrike or Hulderick or Volusianus we labour not much 〈◊〉 it bee the taske of idle Criticks● dispute who was Hecuba●s Mother and what was her age No lesse vain is my Refuter that spends many waste words about his Saint V●●rick in shewing the difference of time betwixt him and Pope Nic●las The one dying Anno 869. ● other being horne 890. and prouing out of his obscure Sorbonist M●nchiacenus that there were fiue Bishops of Auspurge betwixt the times of the one and the other whereby a simple Reader might easily bee deluded and drawne to thinke there is nothing but impossibilitie and vntruth in our report● whereas there is nothing in all this peremptorie and colourable flourish of his but meere ●ogging or misprision For both Illyricus apart and the Centurists
assure the Reader that the forced Celibate of the English Clergie is of greater Antiquitie then these his Saints To which he adds in an ignorant begging of the question A thing so filthie after a solemne vow to God to take a Wife as it neuer appeared without the brand of infamie As if our Predecessors in the English Clergie had beene euer charged with a vow As if the solemnitie of this vow had neuer had beginning Chimericall fancies fit for a shorne head When as his Master Harding could not produce so much as a probabilitie of any vow anciently required or vndertaken whether by beck or Dieu-gard When as the ancient Saxon Pontificall makes not the least mention of any such profession yea when Girardus who was the second Bishop of Yorke after the conquest writes flatly to Anselme concerning his owne Canons Professiones verò mihi penitus abnegant Canonici c. My Canons saith he vtterly deny to giue mee profession of continencie which without this profession haue beene disorderly aduanced to holy Orders Cùm verò ad ordines aliquos inuito durâ ceruice renituntur ne in ordinando castitatem profiteantur And when I doe inuite any to take Orders they doe resist me very stubbornely that they will make no profession of chastitie in their Ordination Thus hee Shewing vs playnely that the Clergie in those times challenged no other then the libertie of their Predecessors But well may he face vs downe in this more obscure though certaine truth when hee dares to say that Greece it selfe neuer tolerated this estate in their Clergie till by bad life it fell to Schisme and from Schisme to open Heresie whiles their owne Canon Law besides all Histories giue him the lye and what Espencaeus hath ingeniously spoken concerning this poynt we haue formerly shewed If hee did not presume vpon Readers that neuer saw Bookes hee durst not bee thus impudent This argument therefore shall euer stand good and shall scornefully trample vpon all his vaine cauils Ethelwold was the first which by the command of King EDGAR expelled married Priests out of the old erection of Winchester Anno 963. DVNSTAN and OSWALD together with him were the men who two yeeres after first expelled married Clergie-men out of the greater houses of Merceland As 1177. in the dayes of King Henrie the Second the secular Prebendaries of Waltham were first turned out to giue way to their Irregulars therefore vntill these times these places were interruptedly possessed by married Clergie-men If now he shall except that this possession of theirs was not of long continuance but vpon vsurpation whereby the married Incumbents had iniuriously incroached vpon the right of Monkes Our Monkes of Worcester shall herein fully conuince him who write vnder their Oswaldus Archiepiscopus Per me fundatus fuit ex clericis monachatus That is By me were Monks first founded out of Clerkes Which was also the fashion of all other erections of this nature so as it is manifest that originally these Churches were founded in marryed Clergie-men afterwards wrongfully translated from them to Monkes And if the first possessors had beene Monkes how could Monkes haue been there first founded by Oswald when as Ethelred had long before both founded and furnished it and how out of Clerkes if Monkes had beene there before Let my Refuter shew me but a Verse of equal antiquitie in a contrarie ryme Per me fundatus fuit ex Monachis Clericatus and I yeeld him my argument Otherwise let the world iudge if he be not shamelesly obstinate in not yeelding BVt to strike it dead my Aduersarie will proue the English Clergie euer to haue beene continent Reader looke now for Demonstrations His first proofe is That in all the pursuit of this businesse wee neuer read of any that did stand vpon the former custome of the Church A proper argument ab authoritate negatiuè And what other arguments doth my Detector finde vsed by the then-persecuted Clergie Histories record them not therefore doubtlesse they said nothing for themselues and if they vrged other proofes which are not now descended to vs by any relation why not this for one Who can but hisse out so silly sophistry But to stop that clamorous mouth in this poore cauil doth not his owne Monke of Malmesbury tell him that the Clergie vrged this plea for themselues Ingens esse miserabile dedecus vt nonus aduena veteres colonos migrare compellerit c. That it was a great and miserable shame that these vpstarts the Monkes should thrust out the ancient possessors of those places that this was neyther pleasing to God which had giuen them that long-continued habitation nor yet to any good man who might iustly feare the same hard measure which was offered to them Thus they whose plea and complaynt seemed so iust that Alfgina the Queene Prince Alfere and others of the nobility ouer-threw many of those new-founded monasteries and reinstalled the Priests in their former right His next proofe is from the Letters of Pope Gregorie which hee wrote to Austin the Monke here in England Risum teneatis Did euer any man doubt but that Pope Gregorie was desirous to establish Romish Lawes and orders amongst the English Where yet his Legate found many as good Christians as himselfe vnder another rule conforme to the Greeke Church But how follows this This Pope was willing to in-romanize the English therefore the staffe stands in the corner And yet euen Pope Gregorie allowed marriage to those of the English Clergie which were not within the higher Orders appoynting them to receyue their stipends apart a fauour which he saw necessarily to bee yeelded to our nation whiles he abridged others From Gregorie hee descends to Beda a man doubtlesse venerable for his learning and vertue but as it is in his Epitaph Monachorum nobile sydus Whether a neighbor at least to Italie by birth as they contend I am sure a Disciple of Abbot Benedict and so great a fautor of the Roman faction that he censures S. Aidanus and Colmannus for adhering to those Greek formes which the Churches of this Iland had anciently followed whose part Ioannes Maior iustly takes against him This Beda in a generall speculation speakes his conceit of the voluntarie continencie which hee holds requisite in the Priesthood sayes nothing of the particular custome of the English Clergie rather in diuers passages insinuating the contrarie Amongst the rest hee tells vs that in the Synod holden by Archbishop Theodorus and the other Bishops at Hereford in the third yeere of King Egfride which was about Anno 673. their Tenth and last Canon was pro coniugijs vt nulli liceat nisi legitimum habere connubium For Marriages That no man should marry vnlawfully no man should commit incest no man should leaue his owne wife vnlesse as the Gospel teacheth for fornication onely c. I know my Refuter wil plead