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A01748	A true relation of the faction begun at VVisbich by Fa. Edmonds, alias VVeston, a Iesuite, 1595. and continued since by Fa. Walley, alias Garnet, the prouincall of the Iesuits in England, and by Fa. Parsons in Rome, with their adherents: against vs the secular priests their bretheren and fellow prisoners, that disliked of nouelties, and thought it dishonourable to the auncient ecclesiasticall discipline of the Catholike Church, that secular priests should be gouerned by Iesuits.	Bagshaw, Christopher, d. 1625?; Watson, William, 1559?-1603.	1601 (1601)	STC 1188; ESTC S100519	61,716	102

that the said diuision toucheth the greater and better part of that company Alack alack doth it so It toucheth indeede the greater part and that very neerely for it shewed them for the time to be very factious such as secretly banded and combined themselues with a Iesuite against their fellow prisoners and brethren And therefore in that hee sayth those conspiring companions were the better part he speaketh like himselfe very vntruly as we in our indgements do esteeme of honest men Mary in his sense and according to the common saying the veryer knaues the better luck they may well be reckoned the better part because none are iudged vertuous or of any estimation that oppose themselues against the Iesuites or refuse to worship their Iesuiticall Idoll our Arch-priest And yet we will be content to let them go for once as he would haue them so he ioyne those words with the other that follow and to this effect The sayd contention toucheth the better part and therefore it concerneth neither himselfe nor any of his louing assistants nor their impregnable authoritie But in good sooth maister Blackwell speake truly man doth not that contention in some sort touch your high authoritie Was it not the ground of it If we had yeelded to Fa. Westons agencie had you bin euer aduaunced as you are Did not our garboyles beget your greatnes If maister Weston had preuailed with vs maister Garnet would haue wiped your nose for dealing like a yong prince abroade-as you do And therefore indeed in a right good sense wee are your good maisters and so you ought to esteeme vs. But if we should deale more seriously with you and vrge you to set downe wherein the said great part was or is the better what durst you say if you haue any sparke of the feare of God before your eyes Are they better learned for shame you will not say it Are their liues more sincere I hope you will charge vs with no dishonestie or if you dare we defye you being in our liues we trust blameles before men and euery way as honest as your selfe at the least As touching the orders you speake of they were yeelded vnto it is true by our consent and that most willinglie but as for maister Weston it so stroke him to the hart to yeeld vnto them as he fell downe presently before the company into a swoune such was his pride and so vnwilling he was to be ouer-ruled for the time And whereas our Archpriest saith that it is well knowne at Rome by whose means the said orders were disanulled we are glad to heare it and haue taken some little paines in this treatise to make it also as well knowne here in England If his meaning be that we of the Vnity did first disanull them he sayth vntruly and they in Rome are falsely informed No no those orders crossed too much the Iesuites deseignements to haue any long continuance where they had any factious creatures to infringe them But that which followeth is worthie some especiall consideration Neither was it more vnfitting sayth maister Blackwell for those which liued in one house to institute rules for such as voluntarily demaunded and accepted them then to procure a sodality abroade In good faith we are sory that we are compelled to disclose this fellowes fals●hood and how much he is sunne-burnt with Iesuitisme It is a world to see how artificially he doth smooth ouer in thi● place diuers false and some very absurd points And firs● consider we pray you whether it was as fit for Priests i● prison to choose a Iesuite to rule them as for other Priests abroade to desire to haue a Bishop to gouerne them and whether suiteth better with the auncient discipline of the Catholick Church for secular Priests to sue to the Prouinciall of the Iesuites to haue a Iesuite for their head or for others to sue to his holynes to assigne them a Bishop But let this passe and proceede we to the rest and when you heare the truth in a word then consider the mans sinceritie It will appeare vnto you by the history following that Fa. Weston had bin laboring for a superioritie ouer his brethren for the space of seauen yeeres To that purpose he had insinuated himselfe by hypocrisie and vnequall distribution of money into the fauors of the yonger sort such as were either themselues Iesuites or else inclining thereunto The Rules he speaketh of were of Fa. Westons owne making And all this was done secretly the grauer sort of the company being neuer acquainted with it When they had contriued their busines as you haue heard they pretend themselues to be more holy then the rest of vs whom they misliked and that therefore in respect of the sinnes that raigned amongst vs they would no more either eate or drinke with vs but would haue their diet by themselues And in conclusion they seuered themselues from vs and dealt as you shall perceiue in this treatise at large more like Donatists then Catholick Priests And all this inquitie doth this Iesuiticall Arch-priest couer in the sayd words so Clarkly masked with good tearmes without any regard either of conscience or common honesty but to abuse the world for the better vpholding of his owne credit which being gotten by falshood is still yet so mainteined But we keepe you too long from the story it selfe and therefore referring you for this matter to the sayd printed discourse in answere both of it and many other points we commit you by our prayers to Almighty God who open your eyes and harts that you may truly discerne betweene wolues and true pastors of your soules and accordingly to imbrace them as heretofore you haue done and we hope will do hereafter A true relation of the faction begun at VVisbich IN the yeare 1579. M. Saunders was dispatched from Rome to Ireland and not long after the Pope sent other forces thither About the same time also the King of Spayne intending to assayle Portugall vpon the death of King Henry the late Cardinall prepared an Army and a Nauy as it was pretended for England And to countenance the same he procured by Cardinall Alexandrino his meanes the renouation of the Bull published by Pius quintus against her Maiestie and printing of them to the number of 1500. at the least he was content they should be spread abroad Not long after Father Parsons and two other Iesuites his subiects Father Campion and Father Cotham came into England with such a noyse as mooued great expectation in some and diligent caution to be had of their proceedings by others These things hapning thus together her Maiestie and the State as fearing the worst disposed of the affayres in the Realme accordingly and thought it conuenient to carry a hand more hardly vpon the Catholicks So as in the yeare 1580. Doctor Watson Bishop of Lincolne Doctor Fecknam Abbot of Westminster Doctor Young maister Metham Doctor Oxenbridge and maister Bluet were sent to remayne

that they seldome fall out to be the honestest men who aredriuen so oft to seeke testimonials for the approuing of their good behauior But that is no matter with them and peraduenture that conceit here holdeth not at Rome so as maister Garnet did content himselfe with his owne course and made such haste therin as before August the same yeere the testimonial he got was with Fa. Parsons in the English Seminary And here we cannot omit one thing which indeede made vs a little merry in the middest of our sorrow how good Fa. Parsons was troubled with one mans subscription to the sayd testimoniall For thus he writeth as he pretendeth from Naples primo Augusti 1598. to the sayd party After I saw a particular testimony of your owne hand in latine concerning the memoriall giuen vp against the societie I could haue bin content you had not written it but either haue subscribed simpliciter as many other auncient and graue Priests did to the cunning letter as it was written being very modest and most true or that you had sayd nothing at all as well you might haue omitted the memoriall being writ and sent from Plaunders whilest you were yet in Italy and so that it was done and exhibited Te neque consentiente neque conscio for those are only the words of testimony that you giue was not needefull the thing being euident of it selfe and your particular writing so bare a thing vnder the common letter was to detract from all the letter before and for the matter it selfe which was most abhominable false and slaunderous you leaue it indifferent to be beleeued or not beleeued c. Were it not that you might hereby perceiue what packing and practising is amongst these fellowes for the maintenance of their owne credit and how swift they are in the expeditions they take in hand we would haue made no mention hereof because thereby our owne dulnes may iustly be condemned who all this while had not sent our messengers to Rome for the information of his holynes as touching our estates here and the common desire of vs secular Priests for a Bishop as before is mentioned In which slow proceeding we will leaue our brethren for a time and returne to maister Standish attending vpon Fa. Parsons in Rome After this good Father had gotten the Rectorship of the English Seminary it then pleased his Worship to proceede with the cause commended vnto him by his subiects in England Fa. Garnet and the rest We doubt not but that in the meane time he had conferred with his friends and was resolued of the plot he meant to effect the execution whereof was in manner as followeth Standish that honest man must haue accesse to the Popes holynes accompanyed with two runnagates both of them Priests Doctor Haddock and maister Martin Array These must take vpon them and so they did that they were men deputed from the secular Priests in England most humbly to intreate his Holynes that he would be pleased by his most preheminent Authority to appoynt a superior ouer the Church of England And the rather to perswade him thereunto they affirmed like very lying wretches that there was such great dissension betwixt the secular priests and the laytie as great inconueniences would certainely insue except one were placed amongst them that by his authority might reforme and reconcile them Now it is too well knowne that the strife which was heere rested betwixt vs and the Iesuites no one lay Catholick for ought we know being at enmity with any other secular Priests then with some few of vs that were at Wisbich and one or two more abroad that tooke our parts and the dislike that such lay persons had of vs was procured by the false practise of the Iesuites we our selues otherwise hauing neuer offended them nor interteyned any quarrell with them God is our iudge His Holynes hearing and marking well their suite demaunded of them in expresse tearmes if that which they had sayd vnto him proceeded from the desire and consent of his louing Priests in England affirming that otherwise he would in no sort giue any eare vnto them Where-unto maister Sandish very well instructed before by Father Parsons and sufficiently assisted by the sayd two lying Priests answered that what he had presumed to deliuer to his Holynes he had done it most assuredly by their consent If Ananias was iustly charged with lying to the holy Ghost in telling Saint Peter an vntruth being replenished with that holy spirit we see no cause why we may not so charge this dishonest company on with all his assistants Fa. Parsons and the rest in that they Iyed so apparantly to Saint Peters successor the Popes Holynes who we doubt not but that he is likewise indued with the spirit of God in such plentifull sort as the excellency of his high calling doth require For it is well knowne and may be proued most euidently if any dare be so shamelesse as to deny it that if you except Fa. Garnet and some one or two of his adherents the rest of the Priests in England generally were altogether ignorant of that deuise Insomuch as the sayd Standish after his returne into England being asked by certaine Priests how he durst presume so impudently to abuse his Holynes with so intolerable an vntruth he excused himselfe in this sort viz. that when he sayd he had the consent of the secular Priests in England to make that motion his answere therein was made by him Cautè that is subtilly or by equiuocation meaning to himselfe viz. as he supposed or presumed which words he kept in his minde and vttered not By which vngodly shift the tyranny wherewith now we are oppressed was hatched By this so false and Iesuiticall a sleight the Popes Holynes being abused as you haue heard committed that matter so propounded vnto him to the further consideration of Cardinall Caietane protector of the English Seminary and to Cardinall Burghesius which was the very plot that Fa. Parsons before had layd the sayd Cardinall protector being one with whom he the sayd Parsons had especiall familiaritie and friendship and by reason of his protectorship ouerruled the other Cardinall as he thought good so as they two being appointed for this seruice Parsons deseignement was in effect thereby accomplished Well it had hapned to vs if his Holynes had bin at that time indued with that worthie gift of the holy Ghost tearmed discretio spirituum that when he made this deputation to the Cardinall he might haue sayd to the aforesayd false wretches why haue you lyed to the holy Ghost that thereby either some extraordinary calamitie might haue fallen vpon them or his Holynes haue taken some other course for the inflicting vpon them such punishment as they deserued But the matter passed as you haue heard and Parsons must contriue it as he thinketh it conuenient which he did in sort as followeth One must gouerne all the Priests in England but Parsons durst

burst asunder all the bands of honestic and modestie and carry away headlong many with the force thereof That if this ambition do remayne vnpunished the age that is to come shall see that it will bring into bondage not only Prelates but the very Princes and Monarches themselues whom yet she flattereth in her infancie They beseech the Pope that he would lay the axe to the roote of the tree and cut off this pride of the Societie spreading it selfe farre and neere least if once it arme it selfe with the authoritie of his Holynes it powre forth a full reuenge vpon all others to their destruction and make an infinite slaughter and massacre of soules which they haue already begun to attempt in wretched England to the great decay of the common cause That the Priests of England can finde in their banishment no harbour safe enough from this their ambition vnlesse they haue first receiued the marke of this beast in their forehead That the Pope can commaund nothing in all his Mandates but the Iesuites finde meanes to frustrate it by the secular power to the great scandall of many That the reuenge of these Iesuites hath neuer an end but with the death of their aduersaries and their reproch after their death That the Iesuites meaning them of Rome do vse to intercept all manner of letters of all men whosoeuer not forbearing the packets neither of the Cardinals nor of Princes N. calleth God and his Angels to witnes that the greatest part of the Nobilitie and Clergie in England both at home and abroade do bewaile with sighes and teares their miserable estate in that they suffer more grieuous things vnder these new Tyrants the Iesuites then in their dayly persecutions That the persecution of the Iesuites is more grieuous to the Catholicks then of the hereticks in England in this respect because they suffer vnder them for their vertue but vnder these in the name of treacherie and vnfaithfulnes The Iesuites haue so persecuted some Priests that are now Martyrs as that their death hath bin imputed partly to the hereticks and partly to the Iesuites That it is a knowne position among the Iesuites diuide and gouerne and therefore those Fathers at Rome do both stirre vp and maintayne dissensions That the Iesuites Confessors are wont to abuse the consciences of their penitentiaries to their owne commoditie That of 300. Priests which haue entred into England scarce sixe or seauen haue fallen away But of twentie Iesuites eight haue reuolted which is a notable slaunder seeing there can not be found one of them to haue reuolted which were sent in by the Societie That the Iesuits in the Low-countries are so cruell as that they haue not only brought many excellent men to a miserable end but haue reproched them after their death That nothing doth so vex the English Catholicks as the contempt and hatred of the President that now is and the slaunderous reproch falsely imputed to the renowned Cardinals Tolet and Alexandrinus That the Iesuites do eagerly wayt for the death of the Pope and of the renowned Cardinall Tolet that they might bring vpon all those that slaughter and bloudshed which they long since assayed against as many as haue dared to oppose themselues against their tyranny The chiefe remedie wherein the state of all controuersies at Rome dependeth is that the affaires of all the Colledges be committed to an assemblie of honorable Cardinals that are regular both to looke into and to determine of For there is nothing that these tyrants more feare then that they should be compelled before the Cardinals to render an accompt of their dealings Neither doth any thing giue them greater libertie of their insolencie then that they are free welnie from being called before any iudgement seate See you see quoth N my letters secretly and effectually because the enemy if he be not preuented flattereth himselfe in an assured hope of a Monarchie While the iron is hote strike worke out your busines while your Patrones liue Your enemies seeke but to gayne the time and if they once set free themselues from the streights wherein they are yet incombred they will belieue me domineere most tyrannously The Iesuites seeke also the gouerment of the Colledge at Doway neither feare they any bridle wherewith they can be curbed but only that the Iesuite Rectors should be made subiect to the regular Congregations The Iesuites by their Machiuilian practises go about to procure the dissolution of the Colledge at Doway The tyranny and insolencie of the Iesuites is horrible especially of those that liuing in Belgia do reproch disgrade depriue whome they list and I feare quoth he do indirectly betray some vnto the enemy The Censure of Paris before mentioned for our instification in suspending our obedience to maister Blackwels authoritie vntill we knew his Holynes further pleasure IN the yeare of our Lord 1600. vpon the third day of May it was proposed to the faculty of the Diuines of the Vniuersity of Paris that by the letters of a most illustrious Cardinall an Ecclesiasticall Superior was constituted in a certaine Kingdome with the title and dignity of an Arch-priest to haue authority and iurisdiction ouer all other Priests residing in that Kingdome This Cardinall did also declare in those his letters that he did it according to the wil and good liking of the Pope Notwithstanding many of these Priests refused to subscribe to the authority of the sayd Arch-priest before he had obteyned letters from the Sea Apostolick conteyning the tenor of his confirmation as well because that kind of gouernment was altogether new in Gods Church and hitherto neuer heard of that an Arch-priest should haue charge of a whole Kingdome and such iurisdiction ouer euery Priest in that Realme then also for that it seemed to them by certaine words of the Cardinals letters that the Arch-priest and his authority was graunted by false information then lastly because they noted great partiality in the choyse of the Arch-priest and of his counsellors Vpon which and some other reasons these Priests sent messengers to the Pope for laying open vnto him these their difficulties and therewithall to signifie their greatest readynes as in this matter so euermore in all other to obey his Holynes The Arch-priest and those who are of his side accuse the other Priests of schisme in that they deferred to obey the Cardinals letters which moreouer he sayd were written according to his Holynes minde and pleasure The Question then is whether these Priests be schismaticks and if not whether they did commit at the least some grieuous sinne The head and chiefe men of the faculty of Diuinity in Paris chosen out of the whole company assembled together in the house of the Senior Bedle in the yeare and day aboue written after full and maturest consideration had of the matter gaue this censure First that those Priests who vpon the aboue-named causes deferred to obey were no schismaticks Secondly that they committed no

sinne at all in that fact in it selfe considered By commaundement of our Deane and masters deputed and selected by the whole facultie of Diuinity in Paris De lacourt The rash and vnaduised aunswere of Mayster Blackwell to the Censure of Paris Reuerendi Patres Fratres WHereas after the condemnation at Rome of the two Embassadors together with all their complices here and also the Pope his Breue confirming the Cardinals letters as validas ab initio and vtterly condemning and inualidating all things done to the contrary Some vnquiet persons haue secretly sought to the Vniuersity of Paris and thence pretend to haue or haue receiued a resolution that they neyther incurred schisme nor any sinne in their proceedings here against mine authority Whereas also it is manifest that after notice had from their Ambassadors of the Pope his expresse will made knowne vnto them partly by their imprisonment partly by the testification of the two Cardinals Caietan and Burghesius to whome their cause was committed which also the aforesaid two Ambassadors did certifie hither by their letters exhorting all heere to the quiet acceptance of their superior as being ordayned by his Holynes speciall knowledge and absolute order without dependence of their consent that yet notwithstanding this perfect knowledge they repugned and stood still obstinate in their disobedience so that the pretence of seeking to know the Pope his will was altogether friuolous in those which remayned heere And thereby it appeareth that the information giuen of the cause to the Parisians was altogether wrong and as it may be thought fraudulent For so long as they refused not their superior appoynted by the knowne will of the Pope they neuer were condemned as schismaticks and since and whilest they acknowledged their superior they were neuer censured but only as seditious in opposing against the Pope his order and in disturbing the wished peace and tranquility of the Cleargie and Laity of the Catholicks and yet could neuer be freed from one of these two crimes Propterea In Dei nomine Amen Nos Georgius Blackwellus Archipresbyter Angliae Protonotarius Apostolicus ex authoritate nobis sufficienter legitime commissa praecipimus strictè in virtute obedientia sub poena suspensionis à diuinis amissionis omnium facultatum ipso facto incurrendarum omnibus ecclesiasticis personis omnibus autem laicis Catholicis sub poena interdicti similiter ipso facto incurrendi that neither directly nor indirectly they mayntayne or defend in word or in writing the censure of the Vniuersity of Paris whether it be truly giuen or forged whether vpon true information or otherwise as being preiudiciall to the dignity of the See Apostolicall and expressely contrary to his Holynes Breue and to the sentence iudicially giuen by the two Cardinals appoynted iudges in our cause and to our common peace so much wished for by his Holynes And this we inuiolably commaund to be obserued vnder the paines afore specified and greater also according to his Holynes pleasure Yet hereby we intend in no wise to disgrace the most famous Vniuersity of Paris For we hope verily that eyther there is no such censure of theirs or else that it was procured by wrong informations and without manifesting the sentence of the two Cardinals and the expresse confirmation of his Holynes of those first letters by which our authority was deriued vnto vs which God willing we will speedily procure they shall receiue from the Court of Rome And so nothing doubting of your duties towards your superiors I leaue further to instruct or exhort you beseeching God to blesse vs all 29. May. 1600. Georgius Blackwellus Archipresbyter Angliae Protonotarius Apostolicus Areioynder of Maister Darrell Deane of Agen in defence of the censure of Paris against M. Blackwell Reuerendi Patres Fratres THere is come vnto my hands the sentence of M. George Blackwell Arch-priest in condemnation of the censure and iudgement of the Catholique auncient and renowned Vniuersity of Paris Wherein was also thrust a very peremptory Prouiso but most necessary to auoyd reprehension that no man should vndertake eyther by word or writing to defend the sayd censure I deemed it not impertinent in few words to runne ouer the sayd sentence to shew in part the insufficiencie of it as well for the honor of the sayd sacred faculty of Paris which for the worthy schollers it hath brought forth is highly esteemed throughout all Christendome as for the aduertisement of the abouenamed Arch-priest that he may hereafter be somewhat better aduised ere he thunder out his censures and do not vainely perswade himselfe that he can either tye the toongs or stay the pennes of men by any such vnreasonable writ vnlesse he take some more sober and considerate course of proceeding And for bresities sake to omit the friuolous preambles that are partly vntrue and wholy to small purpose the first of importance is where he sayth That the information giuē vnto the Parisians was altogether wrong and as it may be thought fraudulent His reason is for that they who liked not his election at the first stood still obstinate in their disobedience after perfect notice of the Popes breue in confirmation of it sent them by their Ambassadors who for honors sake you must thinke pardye he alwayes so tearmeth how sound and true this assertion is all England as I think knoweth right well Sure I am the common fame spread in all countryes betwixt England and Rome where the English are resident approued also by sundry letters out of England and from other coasts was and is cleane contrary viz. that they who before suspended their iudgements attending his Holynes resolution as soone as they were by the Popes breue certified of his pleasure submitted themselues to the Arch-priest and acknowledged his authority And that I stay not about needlesse proofes in so notorious a matter the very next words after in this his rescript declare as much Mary I must needs confesse that they are so clarkly and clea●ely set downe that they may perhaps couer some pretie equiuocation These be his words For so long as they refused not their superior appoynted by the knowne will of the Pope they were neuer condemned as schismaticks and since whilest they acknowledged their superior they were neuer censured but only as seditious in opposing against the Popes order c. The sense in common vnderstanding must needs be that at first so long as they had not certaine notice by the Popes breue of his will and therefore refused to accept the new Magistrate they were not condemned as schismaticks Afterward they vnderstanding of the Breue acknowledged their superior and therefore were not censured as schismaticks but only as seditious By the latter part of which sentence it is most euident and cleare by his owne expresse declaration that after certaine knowledge of the Popes commaundement they acknowledged their superior and therefore were not censured but only as seditious