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A09908 A VVelch bayte to spare prouender. Or, A looking backe vpon the times past Written dialogue wise. This booke is diuided into three parts, the first, a briefe discourse of Englands securitie, while her late Maiestie was liuing, with the maner of her proceeding in gouernment, especially towards the papists and puritanes of England, whereof a letter written late before her death, specifics, as followeth in this first part. The second, a description of the distractions during her Maiesties sickenesse with the composing of them. The third, of the aptnesse of the English and the Scotte to incorporate and become one entire monarchie: with the meanes of preseruing their vnion euerlastingly, added therevnto. Powell, Thomas, 1572?-1635? 1603 (1603) STC 20170; ESTC S110537 18,002 32

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haue broght me to the restitution of the times harmony I thinke it not amis to close vp your discourse with the Scottish Englishing or the vniting of both Nations that first implying his Maiesties prerogatiue therein in his title deriued from Henry the third you come briefly to the discussing of the inherence vppon these two questions The first whether there be an aptnesse in these two to be reconciled and made one The second whether being now made one there may be meanes vsed to preserue that consent and vnitie euerlastingly The first question is onely of their mutuall accommodation thereunto The second question is onely of secondary meanes whether there be such as might vphold in all like contentment the Liberties Reputations and Benefit of both Besides that I confesse we ought in duty to obserue his Maiesties decrees whatsoeuer prouided in that behalfe without farther studie to our satisfaction Of these two in the second place and at the first sight somewhat be spoken wi●h a breath soaring in a midle region neither deprest to the earth of your selfe extraduced neither ascending to paint the face of the times best fauorites auro ouato with flattery Answ. In the first place that I may onely differ in mine authoritie from the rest of my countrie men giue mee leaue to deriue his Maiestie by the history of the Royall house of England written in Italian by Petruccius Vbaldine Cyttadine of Florence for the indifferencie of his Nation and the reuerence of his testimony who liued lately among vs translated by his owne Manuscript and briefly abridged as concerning our purpose onely as followeth The deuision of the Koyall house of England had his originall from the sonnes of Henry the third Edward and Edmund It hath beene supposed by some that Edmund was the elder and being crooked Edward was preferred the easier before him which suggestion Henry the fourth vsed to colour his vsurpation of the Crowne vpon Richard the second This faction after it burst out caused bloody warres in England either house prosecuting the other to the destruction of them both the possession of the Crowne remaining to either according to their force the fortune and fauor of the time This controuersie after God had made vse therein to manifest his iust punishment of Edward the fourth in his children for his cruelty towards Henry the sixt and Edward his sonne together with some periuries that the histories impose vpon him and his vnnaturall dealing towards his brother Clarence was by the plotte of Morton Bishop of Elie taken away in the performance of that oath which he tooke of Henry of Richmond of the house of Lancaster to marry with Elizabeth the sole heire of the contrary house after the tyrant Richard slaine in battaile Of this Henry the seauenth came Henry the eight with his sisters the eldest of which being named Margaret King Henry the seauenth in his spirit of prophecie wherein he had a peculiar potencie as the history of his dying makes mention and in his prouidence of reducing the two Kingdomes of England and Scotland into one entire Monarchie as his owne hand writing left behinde him can sufficiently testifie did match with the Scepter of Scotland from whence both by father and mother after the issue of Henry the eight now extinct is deriued King Iames of both Kingdomes the immediate successor who for the constancie of his fauours his inappetence of new purchase and his care of husbanding the meanes of all his Dominions for their owne good and preseruation is liuely modeled by his grandfather Henry the seauenth whose example Vbaldine commendeth to his successours for the best forme of administring the Commonwealth abroad and the houshold at home In his dayes the Nobilitie wonted not to procure accesse through inferiour aduocation nor the Fabij to haue their cause solicited by Vinius bondman or Nimphidius verlottes the Commons were yet inuited to contributions but came freely nor the Exchequer was euer better stored with the proper reuenew and the exhibition of those offices which belonging thereunto were confer'd vpon the ministers which should execuse them with his owne immediate hand the neglect whereof hath beene the cause of all the abuses of office in this land when his patent must come through so many aduocating hands Quest. Now you haue sufficiently implide in the title his prerogatiue of vniting these two Kingdomes warranted and instanced both out of holy writ and traditionall reporte of Scepters long since translated with their whole tribes and families I desire you to come to the question of their aptnesse thereunto in the second place Answ. To prooue an Aptnesse in the Scot to incorporate with the English let me tell you what kinde of Aptnesse is required in this place For Aptnesse of agreeing is either in Substance or Beautie And because there is a generall Aptnesse or an Aptnesse in Substance euen in the Scithian to incorporate with any the most ciuill nation that is hauing in his reasonable soule matter malleable therunto without farther immoration vpon it I lay the present proofe in Aptnesse of the Beautie of their Maners Lawes and Language Of which the Beautie is to be tried and examined by these his two Trialls Delight and Similitude That his maners haue complacence similitude of Beauty with ours of the English in religious maners it appeares It being only conformable with the English Both which the other world remooued aparte makes seeme one Cittie vpon a hill In conuersation he delights vs the more by how much the liuelier he onely expresseth our endeuors and our principles whereby there is discerned a mutuall Aptnesse and inclination in both owing our duties to the same Scepter to become one entire and vndistinct Monarchie Of Lawes Law ye fir Iustine sayes there is no difference so long as they agree in the fundamentall parts being executed Per eos Legis peritos qui sunt honesti studiosi iustitia non anari c. It is some thing in latine which I can not translate into English I assure you sir. Of Language because the difference is but this that the English is like a Denshire carsie after fulling set out with all the arte of draperie to giue it grace and glosse And the Scottish vnstarcht with inkehorne stage suiting conscisenesse It can not choose but delight the English Orator for firmnesse and soliditie hauing much cleanenesse and puritie in the written letter The Poet for descant vppon the first eliments of his naturall phrasing and both for very Aptnes and consimilitie of sentence Now for the preseruing of this vnion the secondarie meanes which occurre are either Free meanes or Obligatory and lesse free The free meanes are these Election and Confidence First by Election we shine in humanitie to select his strangenesse into fellowship of exercising and businessing wherein by desiring him well we shall duly erogate the like from him The next is to be confident in onr election when wee excercise or businesse with him in freenesse of spirite apertly not curiously with obseruing into him wherby we shall challenge to discouer in his generous expansure I speak of their gentry chiefly much cause of delight in our choice by the plentifull accommodation of his parts in conuerse I call these Free meanes because they proceed only of libeberall education nobilitie in nature which are by these two signes to be distinguished from such soules as are conditions slaues The Obligatorie or lesser liberall meanes next vnder the Lawes are in Conditions of Commercement Seales of marriage and Bonds of duty First in Commercement when our thrift is implied and promised to ourbusinesse with him as no dubt but it carrieth such profite with it as shall vphold the benefite of either in all and like contentment Secondly in Marriage which being now sealed betwixt the sons and daughters of either is obligatory in nature after consummation and before in Couenant for the most part If otherwise it is a free meanes Howsoeuer it makes no lesse alike the liberties and reputations of either than Election and Confidence in the ●●●●st converse that may be Wherefore I commend it to both hauing such pregnant aptnes vpon their complexions and in then dispositions therevnto for the best meanes of incorporating and preseruing this vnion euerlastingly Lastly in Duty and to this we are whipt led by the Animall motion of like for like in Liberties in Reputations and in Benefite where there is no difference if so please his Maiestie of Franchisement none of Heraldry nor yet of Marte both being within the same Ocean both one Monarchie and one Citty vpon a hill without confusion of Manners Lawes or Language Of this vnion and consent to conclude with this small taste of the Times felicitie I thinke it no giddie Rapture in mee to diuine May both swell in one maine and neither fall That Sea will stretch to Romes high Capitall FINIS To the vnparaleld blesst disposition The Lady Elizabeth Bridges THat thou art faire because thou would'st not know it My Verse shall be no flattering glasse to show it Th' art free from conflicts with the blood of sense Experience too bids that doubt space expence Then where is 't I am deteined Chaste 〈◊〉 selfe owning beauteous Be benign● as we are dueteous Reede our Line and Loue vnfeined T. P. To the noble Gentleman Sir Thomas Kneuet THis would thy Mistris once bespeake thy merite Not with any breath of liver Had I a child that challeng'd to inherite More then Scepter holds togither Euen such blesst issue might aswell be seeme Brought vp by Kneuet as borne of a Queene And thus vnto thy Censure now speake I Humbler affectation suiting The fayrest issue of our nurserie I ft deserue that names reputing Thinkes greater fame than this cannot succeede it The wisest Kneuet doth vouchsafe to reed it T. P. To the Right Worshipfull Sir Edward Dyer THis which I bring thee is no Ilias Writ in Veratrum drunken giddinesse Yet in the stufffings of our legends masse It is not to conceite in most recesse Nor honours it with the most humble knee Though it 's vnsinewed to fall vnder thee T. P.