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A57020 A Reply to the answer Doctor Welwood has made to King James's declaration which declaration was dated at St. Germaines, April 17th, S.N., 1693 and published also in the Paris Gazett, June 20th, 1693. Welwood, James, 1652-1727. 1694 (1694) Wing R1066; ESTC R24075 49,724 48

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the Witnesses cannot be supposed to be constrained by an Exiled Prince They have been challenged they have been provoked to search to the very bottom of that Mystry of Iniquity I will not use so rough Language but I humbly recommend that inquiry to them this Sessions Certainly it was an Errour in our Legislators that no Member of i● took any Oaths at the meeting of the Convention and that they laid asid● the use of the Test at a Juncture when the whole Nation was allarum'd a● the exercise of the dispensing Power I have heard a Jolly Papist say tha● if the Priests can dispense with him for eating a Shoulder of Mutton upon a Fryday he would even dispense with himself for that small matter le● him be thought as Hetrodox by the rest of the Catholicks as they pleased Upon my Faith a man would think if the Test and the Oaths can be dispensed withal by one of our three Estates as some phrase it they may be a● well dispensed withal by either of the other I don't say this as being fond either of Oaths or of the Test. I have always thought and have lately seen that Oaths are no great Security to Governments and I never had nor will have any hand in Test-making tho' I can take twenty against Popery All that I mean by this is that methinks the Conventioners our Senate should not have fallen into that Dispensing Power the Nation had so lately cryed out upon with open Mouth The Convention's choosing a Speaker upon a Corporation bottom and a disputed Election possibly cannot in strictness of language be called a Legislative Errour but yet it was such an one as made the Convention it self unfit to be termed any part of our Legislative Authority and invalidated if there had been no other exceptions against them all the acts of that Convention I am sure made them at least disputable I think we may reckon amongst Parliamentary Errours that our Convention draw no better a Bill of Rights did not qualifie explain and limit the Dispensing Power that the threats that were used to B●scowen Hampden● Powel c. and their being promised good Preferments should be able to ●●fle all provisi●ns against Arbitrary Power and leave our Constitution as doubt●● and preca●ious as the Sycophants of both Robes have pretended it to be in the worst of times Whatever these two last particulars mentioned will be reckoned now I b●lieve Posterity will allow them to be Legislative Errou●s amongst which also will be reckoned their Scandalous throwing out of the Iudges hill and the opposition that many of the House of Commons have made to a Bill for Regulating Tryals in Cases of ●igh T●eason and I averr that neither the future will nor can the present Age assign any other reasonable cause for the treatment those Bills have met with but the multitude of Officers and Pentioners that corrupt all the debates of our Senate House I don't intend to run ●hrough every Errour committed by our Legislators I will omit the admission of Out Laws such as Major Wildman Manley c. into the Convention to make Laws for us before they had r●versed their own own Out-Lawries I will not mention that the Houses suffered themselves to be thr●atned by the Mobb sometimes by Members within and s●metimes by People without doors and have given for excuse of what they have done those threats the violence of the times c. and yet have looked and acted and expect to be considered as a free Parliament I will omit the non-prohibition the last Sessions of the exportation of our Money in Specie These and many other Parliamentary errours I will omit that I may as curso●ily look into the Executive Male-administrations Some of these which I have called and which became at length Legisla●ive Errours were originally and at their first setting out executive male-administrations and since I have spoke to them under the one I shall not repeat them under the other Head of my division I will talk no more of Imprisoning without Oath nor executing b● martial Law before it was in Be●ng I will not repeat the Articles of Lymerick But did not the Prince of Orange m●ke his first Steps in the exercise of ●his Government in both Kingdoms upon the Dispensing Power Did he not before he was King send Letters to the City of London to choose unqualified Persons into Places of Trust Did he not also and that before he was King send a Proclamation into Scotland that authorized and impowered Magistrates to officiate in Corporation who were not elected according to their Charter Has not every Term excessive Bail been required three thousand pounds for men that have not b●en worth th●ee hundred Shillings Excessive Fines imposed besides setting in the Pillory a hundred Marks upon a Boy that was not worth so m●ny Pence and now five hundred Marks api●ce besides setting them three times in the Pillory upon two that dispersed this Declaration tho' one of them is not worth so many Gr●●ts Where is that Salvo continemento that we used to talk of Have not Illegal and cruel Punishments been Inflict●d one of the Female Sex set in the Pillory and Fined severely for a foolish Song Have not the Armies taken and forced free qua●t●r in England Scotland and Ireland Have they not been coun●enanced in doing it by those that sit at the H●lm Are our Elections of Parliament men according to our old Constitution Were not my Lord Nottingham and the booted Apostle sent down to solicite against Colonel Mildmay's Election in Ess●x Have there not been many bare-faced Sollicitations Threats and Promises sent to Countries Corpora●ions and p●rticular Electors Were th●re ●ot grea● Sums of Money expended by the Court to hinder the Elections of Wildman and others who had been great authors of the Change meerly because it was plain they made this Change with a design to secure their Country from the abuse of future Ministers Have not Governours been imposed upon the Plantations abroad upon the quo Warranto Foot and contrary ●o the opinion of the Privy Council and meerly by the Arbitrary Command of King William Are not such Judges out of favour and their Salla●ies ill paid who will not do all Jobbs for the Court I appeal to my Lord Chief Baron Atkins and others of the Judges whether or no I am a Slanderer Has not an Order been sent down to the Custom-House at Dover dispensing with the Act of Parliament which prohibits French Wines Was not that Act which prohibits the bringing in of Silk for Sir Henry Limerick Furnace's sake dispensed with the other day by a formal Act of Council In the Name of God is not all the world satisfied that my Lord Bellamount was Closeted during the last Sessions and that many others were so before the Parliament met as well in Flanders as in England Was not the witty Iack How turned off because he would not hold his tongue when the Inter●st of the
whom the King was displeased did not only oppose the manner but the Liberty and yet King Iames conti●ued them in places of the greatest Trust and was at last Sacrificed by his too great Confidence in their Fidelity Besides this how came you to reproach King Iames with ingratitude since your Master has so signalized himself for it towards those that have served him in Holland England Scotland and Ireland Why should I name the Al●rins c. in the Vnited Provinces Halifax Shrewsbury Delamere Wildman Manle● c here One of those very men that brought him the Crow● of Scotland The Officers of Lo●don●●rry and Iniski●ling c I say why should I name these when the whole Whigg-Party every day in every Coffee-House charge him with an Ignorance of his own Interest becaus● he scarse rewards any body but those that have opposed him He seem● to have a Green-sickness Palate in that matter and to love Ingratitude a● young Wen●hes do Dirt and Charcoal because it is destructive to the Constitu●ion of his Government King William has interwoven with his P●l● ticks all the Faults that we complained of in the time of King Iames with out immixing that Oec●nomie that good Husbanery that application which must be allowed even by his worst Enemies to be King Iames's Talents and It 's o●d not to say R●diculous to see the Prince of Orange every where fi● the Commissions of the ●eac● and the Militia and almost all the Places o● Trust with men whose Principles a●e di●ectly opposite to his own Title an● who opposed his Election to the Crown This is as has been formerly sa● by a Jacobite Pamphlet●er a Sin against the Holy Ghost of this Revolutio● and I am sure is a monstrous and undeniable Instance of the Prince of Orang● Ingratitude to those that put the Crown on his Head There remains two or three things still to which I suppose you will e●pect an Answer Page the seventeenth you repeat the Words of a Spee● the King made to the Parliament 1685. where he told them that he pleas● himself with the Hopes that by Gods blessing their assistance he might carry the R●putation of this Nation higher in the World than ever it had been in the time of any ● his Ancestors These Words of this Speech you think are Synonymous 〈◊〉 this clause He has set it before his Eyes as his noblest aim to do yet more for ● Constitution than the most renowned of his Ancestors Had you taken notice ● the word C●●stitution and not over●●●ked the next clause of his Declaratio● which is and as our chiefest Interest to leave no umbrage in relation to Religio● Liberty and Property I say if you had observed the word Constitution as that clause you could not fallen into such a mistake It is plain the Ki● designed to make himself glorious and to secure his own Interest by givi● us good Laws and did not in his Declaration talk of Campaigning an● let me assure you the less a King of England loves Wars abroad the 〈◊〉 it is for his People at home But if it will not take up too much of your time I will give you my Se● of that very Expression in the King's Speech 1685. and be not surprise● Doctor if I declare that I firmly believe that all the King said might ha● been brought to pass if the People of England and particularly the St● W●ïggs had done their part Will you not grant that the Wealth the o● fluence of People the greatness of their Trade the number and strength their Shipping together with the plentiful Magazines of Naval and Ma●tial Stores raise the highest Reputation to Islanders Did not our Conquests ●pon the Continent always cost us very dea● in Blood and Treasure And did they not end in loss and disgrace Whilst Edward the Third and Henry the Fifth were making a noise with their Victories poor England was lamenting that vast consumption of its People and Coyn which had very near destroyed this Nation whereas the Reputation which i● acquired by an increase of Trade and Riches is much more durable much more extensive and will upon an Island resist with greater vigour the rude and cross shocks of Fortune I sha●l make this more evident by comp●ring the Reigns of three of our ●wn Princes Edward the Third and Henry the Fifth gained many 〈◊〉 glorious V●ctories and conquered several Provinces in France by which they rendred their Names dreadful to France tho' their Influences were scarse felt or feared any where else but what Fruit did England nay even themselves reap from all this The disgraces of the latter part of Edward's Reign almost withered all his former Laurels and England was so drained of Money that its Treasure with that of the Conquered Provinces was not sufficient to pay that Army upon its return which under the conduct of the Black Prince had restored Don Pedro to his Kingdom of Castile neither can we discover any better fruits of the Conquest of Henry the Fifth his Reign was short and upon ballancing of Accounts nothing fell to our share but our loss of our bravest Officers and Souldiers and an immence mass of Money thrown away in that unfortunate War Upon the other hand Queen Elizabeth by applying her Councils and Thoughts to the Shipping and Trade of this Nation did so encrease the Wealth and Strength of it as enabled her to support the whole Protestant Interest to secure Scotland from the French Clutches to recover France out of the very Jaws of the Spaniard to defend and establish the Common-wealth of Holland against all the Power of Spain and at last to break the strength of and to humble that great Monarch to whose aspiring Thoughts all Europe seemed too mean a Quarry and whose Ambition could not be satisfied with less then the Empire of the Universe By these methods she out-did all the bravest Actions of our former Kings and extended the dread and reputation of the English Name hither to confined to our bordering States to the utmost corners of the Earth and hath withal thereby Established such a solid Foundation for our future greatness as hath already withstood without any sensible decay a greater effusion of Blood and Treasure in our last Civil Wars then was spent in France in the Reigns of Edward the third and Henry the fifth which Reigns nevertheless had alalmost anihilated this Nation From all this it doth evidently appear that whensoever a King of England applys his whole thoughts to the encrease of the Shipping and Trade of this Nation he must raise our Reputation Strength and influences proportionable to the advances he makes in them That this was and must be King Iames's design and what he meant in that Speech quoted by you is pretty plain to every body that has any knowledge of King Iames his Genius who is truly a Trading and Navall King and it is as plain to any man that reads Mr Pepy's Memoires which are
there was written by one in the King's Interest a Paper called Honesty is the best Policy wherein the Author avers and that upon his own knowledge that that Declaration was contrary to the King 's own sence of things as he inferred from discourses that he had the honour to have personally had with the King at St. Germaines I believe was the Author known no body could justly accuse him for want either of Probity or Love to England After the Answers of these Letters came over the Iacobite Principles was written which contained notions which are plainly hinted at in this ●ast Declaration and before the Publication of this last Declaration came forth the French Conquest neither desireable nor Practicable and now it is evident by this Declaration that the good things asserted in those Pamplets in behalf of the King were not the private Su●mises of the Author but founded upon ●ood authorities from St. Germaines and since th●s Government has printed in Scotland some Letters that they have either intercepted or made I will venture so far to betray the Secrets of his Majesty as to transcribe some passages out of Letters that have been sent me from the Earl of Melfort and many others have had Letters of the same purport I have mine by me and if the Parliament will obtain a safe con●uct for us I will produce them and I don't question but many others of his Majesties Friends wi●● produce such other Letters either written by the King or his command as would abundantly satisfie the Nation that the King is ready to do all things necessa●y to secure them from all those dismal Hobgoblins which some through Malice and others through Folly have bug-●eared us withal The passages I shall transcribe out of my Letters are as follow 3 d. Iuly 1692. I had Yours of the last Month and the only one I have had this considerable time In it I find your objections to the Declaration and find that most of them are Just and what shall be help'd in the next There was not one Topick sent but was made use of and if we have failed it has been the fault of those that have not informed aright what would please and not ou●s and as for that draught you sent me I had it at the Sea-side when we were past thinking of Declarations As to our Intentions the King was resolved to Govern by the known Laws of the Kingdom to consult with his Parliament in all things relating to the establishment of Peace and quiet in his Kingdoms to maintain the Liberties and Properties of all his Subjects to protect the Protestant Religion and to obtain Liberty of Conscience for all Dissenters He designed to except none from his mercy excepting those who opposed his Restoration and to Govern so as that he might gain him the Love of his People and make them as fond of him as they had been violent against him and tho' he could not at this distance tell how this was to be attained to yet he was resolved if once upon the place to have persued the true methods of doing it Withal I must tell you that no Declaration was ever published by the King's authority for tho' it was printed it was not to have been dispersed till the King 's Landing and having met with some of his Friends and if they had disliked it even then it had not been Published 11 th Iuly 1692. No man in the world wishes more heartily then my self to see Bounds and Limits fairly cleared betwixt the People and Monarchy of England that so we may not oppose the Prerogative ignorantly nor unknowingly ru● into Arbitrary Notions against the Liberty of the Subjects if these Limits were once fixt one who meant well might tread s●cure which is now impossible for both Parties pretending to have right and it may be in some things without reason one may design well and yet displease both which could never occur if Prerogative and Property were once clearly defined and stated What all this may end in is hard to foretell and whether ever we shall be so happy to see things cleared on just and equal terms but of this I can assure you it is the King's desire that it should be so Aug. 29 th 1692. I am for large measures and having the Crown established upon the Love and Affections of the Subjects and that in our days we may see the King and People in mutual confidence of one another and all Jealousies and Fears and the grounds of them rooted out that the design of the Court may be the Happiness and Prosperity of the People and the design of the People to encrease the Glory of the Crown and the legal rightful Succession thereof that Liberty and Property might be secured and that Prerogative which justly belongs to the Crown Established for their protection All this might be now were England so happy to lay h●ld on the Conjuncture 22d Septem 1692. The French King did not so much as pretend the Forces he sent should have English Pay but his own which looks far from de●●nding great Sums of the Nation and I can assure you he was as frank as any English man whatever for securing the people in the possession of their Religion Liberty and Property Let not England stand in its own way and oppose its own happiness and I 'le answer France shall not meddle nay if it were to meddle betwixt the King and his People it would be to gain the People more of their Will to humour them more not to complement the Crown AND ANY MAN OF GOOD SENCE WILL FIND REASONS OF STATE FOR THEIR SO DOING In another place of the same Letter he says that The King of France when the King was to come last Year to us said all he had to pretend to was to wish the King happy in the possession of his own and that in serving his Friend he had all he aimed at October 6 th 1692. Things shall be established upon the antient English bottom Religion Property and Liberty shall be as in the freest of times no man shall suffer for his Opinion in matters of Religion The King will have a free Parliament with whom he will consult the settling of all these upon the most lasting Foundations and differences once cleared he will govern according to Law he will have no different Interest from that of England and will make it his chief Study to gain the Love of his People and to be more Lord of their Affections then of their Persons he will avoid all Jealousies and the occasion of them and will look upon him as the worst of Traytors who would advise him to do a●y thing might give his People any Iealousie or Fear In short govern so as honest English men would have him mind the Interest●●rade and Honour of the Nation and that against all its Rivals This is the Interest of the Nation and will be performed and being meant in the full