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A94272 A treatise of the schism of England. Wherein particularly Mr. Hales and Mr. Hobbs are modestly accosted. / By Philip Scot. Permissu superiorum. Scot, Philip. 1650 (1650) Wing S942; Thomason E1395_1; ESTC R2593 51,556 285

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n._n 5._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o prince_n do_v against_o conscience_n who_o permit_v their_o subject_n to_o practise_v a_o religion_n which_o they_o judge_v to_o be_v damnable_a to_o they_o this_o be_v q._n mary_n case_n as_o all_o know_v but_o the_o case_n be_v far_o otherwise_o with_o we_o for_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o our_o prince_n have_v profess_v with_o their_o doctor_n that_o salvation_n may_v be_v have_v in_o our_o church_n and_o therefore_o according_a to_o mr._n hobbs_n they_o shall_v not_o disquiet_v their_o subject_n in_o use_v their_o liberty_n in_o their_o religion_n but_o to_o let_v mr._n hobbs_n pass_v and_o come_v a_o little_a near_o to_o the_o business_n i_o will_v say_v one_o thing_n though_o not_o take_v upon_o i_o to_o discuss_v or_o excuse_v her_o proceed_n in_o every_o particular_a that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n be_v whole_o change_v she_o punish_v for_o innovation_n in_o religion_n which_o even_o among_o jew_n turk_n and_o the_o very_a roman_n 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