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A40456 Querees propounded by the Protestant partie concerning the peace in generall, now treated of in Ireland, and the answers thereunto made in behalfe and name of the Irish nation / by one well affected thereto ; to the first copies whereof many things are inserted and much added. French, Nicholas, 1604-1678. 1644 (1644) Wing F2182; ESTC R35691 21,588 38

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the Catholicke Subjects of England and Ireland relinquish Henry the VIII when he forsooke his owne and their Religion why did not he loose his Crowne when he lost his faith Why might not the Romish subjects of France fall off from the late French King and his Father when they gave tolleration of Religion and liberty to build Churches and Synagogues to the Huguenotes Why lost not they therefore their Crownes But to come neerer home did not our dread Soveraigne King Charles condescend unto such propositions of the Scots as stood not with their loyalty to demand nor in his power to grant to omit all other witnesse the abrogation of Episcopacie or unmitering of Bishops who be the first of the three states of every Christian and Catholicke kingdome as appeares by severall his Majesties declarations yet extant This his Majesty did onely to content that Nation and save that Crowne albeit the former followed not heavens grant the later may for they must have aliquid amplius to wit Kings un-Crowned and Monarchy pull'd downe how ever his Majesties protestant party in England Ireland or Scotland fell not therefore from him neyther is he therefore discrowned and yet must both follow if he give content to the Irish in your opinions or his Royall assent to their propositions albeit they containe nothing but what may modestly suite with their fidelity to propound and justly with his Majestie power and expediently with his gracious benignity to grant that which hath beene their owne for ten or twelve ages consequent and what they enjoyed in quiet possession ever since the Conquest during the happy Raigne of fifteene or sixteene Kings his Majesties predecessors before Henry the VIII and since then violently wrested from them by tyrannie oppression and surreptitious Lawes fraudulently introduced by the bloud-sucking ministers of this subordinate governement Moreover what concernes it the protestant Subjects of England and Scotland whether we have content or not How are they any way impeached or improved thereby or how therein interessed What loose they by our liberty or gaine they by our restraint Can not they goe to Church though wee goe to Masse the broad Sea is betwixt us we will be no eye-sore to them If it be for their brethren here we seeke not the abrogation of their Religion or abreviation of their lawfull freedome or ought else derogating to their honour securitie or peaceable cohabitation as appeares by our propositions now in Print to the eye of the world As for his Majesties protestant party protestant party here in Ireland not to undervalue them they are no way considerable For over all Munster Vlster and Connaght such as for a while did seemingly proclayme themselves for the King doe now absolutely disclayme in him and declare themselves for the Parliament and consequently his enemies so as his Majesty hath no protestant party here but onely in Leynster and that but in a destroyed nooke thereof to wit in the Counties of Dublin and Louth and a part of Kildare and Meath for Doncanon is fallen off in all which they cannot make up one thousand five hundred protestants fighting men where among these shall hardly cull out two hundred I might well say two score heads well squared to the Kings rule the rest as also all the protestant inhabitants of Dublin and their other Townes farre much more then the most part have their heads so Round as they cannot hold rouling to the Parliament when the least occasion is offered As for their hearts they are from the beginning in the bosome of their pure brethren in VVestminster-hall and their heeles are all as nimble and ready to dance a scottish-jigge and a parliamentall revolta to Essex hornepipe if execution were as easie as thought is free and wishes facil all which is manifest by their Common-prayers publicke discourses and Commerce and slocking to the Parliament Ships whensoever they hover over our coastes and thus are they all affected and infected from head to foote save a very few of the prime whereof some being strangers can make no other party then their houshold servants other some though by birth or descent Natives and bigge in bloud and calling and in precedent times vast in possessions and powerfull in command yet now as the winde blowes they beare but low and fagge sayles and can make no more way then the meanest vassals by reason their numerous allyes friends and followers are all Roman Catholickes and consequently adhering to the Confederats with whom not being united their power is as poore as that of the Alyens So as the premisses maturely pondered his Majesties protestant party disioyned from the Catholicke is no way here considerable Will you then upon the onely reason of an ungrounded Antipathy in Religion advise his Majesty to discontent a whole Nation for complying soly with the wilfull malice of so fractious frayle and feeble a party as that of the protestants I say in Ireland for those of England they cannot alleage rationably any reason for opposing our peace save also a meere hatred to our profession which is the reason of fiends who because their selves are in bale cannot brooke others should be in blisse or their hearts are forsooth purified and their heads sphearified and so in the behalfe and behoofe of their pure brothers they cunningly intend by this opposition to weaken his Majesty by fomenting a continuall difference twixt him and his Catholicke Subjects of Ireland whose party they know to be so powerfull both at home and abroad as were matters fairely composed content given them they might strongly assist to quench the fiery fury of the Parliament and reinthrone his Majesty as now de facto they begin to doe in Scotland by a small succour of two thousand Irish sent thither to joyne with the Kings party there whereby it appeares how highly an union betwixt his Majesties Catholicke and protestant Subjects in his three kingdomes conduceth for the quelling and quayling of his enemies and reestablishing of his Royall person in his full power prerogatives and glorie For if a poore ayde of two thousand men onely can so much prevayle what may a large contribution of a hundred thousand pounds in Coine or more and ten thousand men yea twenty thirty it neede be I have beene over fuse I confesse in my answer to this Quaere because it is the objection most frequently and fervently obtruded Quaere 4. Will you loose the kingdome by going to a new warre againe will you utterly undoe it and your selves by a new breach You are not able for the Scots or my Lord of Insiquin and the Parliament party that is in the kingdome much lesse for my Lord Lieutenant and his party whom you will force to joyne with the Scots and parliament and so hold but with the longest and ●…st Resp. I answer these arguments of weaknesse m●… bee retorted on your selves Will you that pretend so much loyaltie and zeale to serve his Majesty loose the