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A36231	Judge Dodaridge, his law of nobility and peerage wherein the antiquities, titles, degrees, and distinctions, concerning the peeres and nobility of this nation, are excellently set forth : with the knights, esquires, gentleman, and yeoman, and matters incident to them, according to the lawes and customes of England.; Magazine of honour	Bird, William, 17th cent.; Doddridge, John, Sir, 1555-1628.	1658 (1658)	Wing D1794; ESTC R11125	103,063	198

and of such a King who is heir unto the said Prince Edward And such a first begotten son and heir apparant to the Crown shall inherit the said Dukedom in the life of the said King his father with manner of limitation of estate was short excellent and curious varying from the ordinary Rules of the Common Law touching the framing of any estate of inheritance in fee-simple or fee-tail And neverthelesse by the authority of Parliament a speciall fee-simple is in that onely case made as by judgment may appear in the Book aforesaid and the case thereof fol. 27. and 21 E. 3.41 b. And ever since that creation the said Dukedom of Cornwall hath been the peculiar inheritance of the Kings eldest son ad supportandum nomen on us bonoris to support the name and weight of that his honourable estate during the king his fathers life so that he is ever Duxnatus non creatus a Duke born not created and the said Duke the very first day of his nativity is presumed and taken to be of full and perfect age so that he may sue that day for his livery of the said Dukedom and ought of right to obtain the same as well as if he had been full 21 yeers of age And the said Black-Prince was the first Duke in England after the Conquest for though Bracton who made his Book in H. 3. saith Et sunt sub rege duces as before appeareth yet that place is to be understood of the ancient kings who were before the conquest for in Mag. Charta which was made in Anno 9 H. 3. we finde not the name of Duke amongst the Peers and Nobles there mentioned For seeing the Norman Kings themselves were Dukes of Normandy for a great while they adorned none with this honour of Duke And the eldest son of every King after this creation was Duke of Cornwall and so allowed As for example Henry of Munmouth eldest son of H. 4. and Henry of Winsor eldest son of H. 5. and Edw. of Westminster the first son of Ed. 4. and Arthur of Winchester first son of H. 7. and Edward of Hampton first son of H. 8. but Richard of Burdeaux who was the first son of the Black-Prince was not Duke of Cornwall by force of the said creation for albeit after the death of his father he was heir apparant to the Crown yet because he was not the first begotten son of a King of England for his father dyed in the life time of king Ed. 3. the said Richard was not within the limitation of the grant and creation by authority of Parliament made in the 11 yeer of king Edward above mentioned And therefore to supply that defect in the 5. yeer of Ed. 3. he was created Duke of Cornwall by a speciall Charter Elizabeth eldest daughter to king Edw. 4. was not Durches of Cornwal for she was the first begotten daughter of king Edw. 4. but the limitation is to the first begotten son Henry the 8. was not in the life of his father king H. 7. after the death of his eldest Brother Arthur Duke of Cornwall by force of the said creation for albeit he was sole heir apparant to the king yet he was not his eldest begotten son Cooks 8 part 29. b. and 30. a. And the opinion of Stamford a learned Judge hath been that he shall have within his Dukedom of Cornwall the kings Prerogatives because it is not severed from the Crown after the form as it is given for none shall be inheritour thereof but the kings of the Realm For example whereas by the Common Law if a man hold divers Mannors or other lands and tenements of severall Lords all by kn●●hts service som● part by priority and ancient Feoffment and other lands by posterity and by a latter Feoffment and the Tenant so seized dyeth his son and heir within age In this case the custody of Wardsh●p of the body and his marriage may not be divided among all the Lords but one of them onely shall have right unto it because the body of a man is intire and the Law doth say That the Lord of whom some part of those lands be holden by priority and by the same tenure of Chivalry shall have it except the king be any of the Lords for then though the Tenant did purchase that land last yet after his death the king shall bee preferred before all or any other the Lords of whom the Tenant did hold by priority And so shall the Duke of Cornwall in the same case have the same Prerogative if his Tenant dye holding of him but by posterity of Feoffment for any tenure of his Dutchie of Cornwall although the said Duke is not seized of any particular estate whereof the reversion remaineth in the king for the Prince is seized in fee of his Dukedom as before is said Iohn of Gaunt the fourth son of king Edward 3. did take to wife Blanch who was daughter and heir to Henry Duke of Lancaster who had issue Henry afterwards king of England so that the said Dutchy of Lancaster did come unto the said Henry by discent from the part of his mother and being a subject he was to observe the Common Law of the Land in all things concerning his Dutchie For if he would depart in Fee with any part thereof hee must make livery and seizen or if hee had made a Lease for life reserving rent with a reentery for default of payment and the rent happen to be behind the Duke might not enter unlesse hee doe make a demand or if he had aliened any part thereof whilest he was with age hee might defeat the purchaser for that cause and if hee would grant a reversion of any estate for life or yeares in being there must also be Attornment or else the grant doth not take effect But after that hee had deposed King Richard the second and had assumed upon him the Royall estate and so had conjoyned his naturall bodie in the bodie Politique of the King of this Realme and so was become King Then the possessions of the Duchie of Lancaster were in him as King and not as Duke For the name of Duke being not so great as the name of a King was drowned by the name of King and by the State Royall in him who was Duke for the King cannot bee a Duke within ●●s owne Realme but out of his Realme hee may And likewise the name of the Duchie and all the Franchizes Liberties and Jurisdictions of the same when they were in the hands of him who had the Crowne and Jurisdiction Royall were gone by the Common Law and extinct for the greater doth distinguish the lesse and after those times the possessions of the Dutchie of LANCASTER would not passe from King Henry the fourth but by his Letters Patents under the great Seal of England without livery of seisin and without Attornment and if he make a Lease for life being Duke reserving a rent with reentry for

default of payment and after his assumption of the Crown the rent happen to be unpaid he might re-enter without demand for the King is not bound to do such personall Ceremonies as the Subjects are by the Law compelled to do Therfore to have the said Dutchy to be still a Dutchy with the liberties to the same as it was before and to alter the order degree of the lands of the Dutchy from the Crown the said King H. 4. made a Charter by authority of Parliament which is intituled Charta Regis Henrici quarti de seperatione ducatus Lancastria a corona authoritate Parliamenti anno Regni sui primo The Charter of Henry the fourth for the separation of the Dutchy of Lancaster from the Crowne by the authority of Parliament in the first yeer of his raign of the said King as by the tenure thereof may appear And so by authority of Parliament the said Dutchy withall the Franchises and liberties were disjoyned from the Crown and from the Ministers and Officers of the Crown and from the receit of the revenues of the Crown and from the order to passe by such conveyance which the said Law did require in the possessions of the Crown But although the possessions of the Dutchy by force of the said Statute stood divided from the Crown and ought to be demeaned and ordered and passe as they ought before Henry the fourth was King yet there is no clause set down in the said Charter which doth make the person of the king who hath the Dutchy in any other degree then it was before but things concerning his person shall in the same estate as they were before seperations Insomuch as if the Law before the Charter by the authority of Parliament adjudged the person of the King alwayes of full age having regard unto his gifts as well of the lands which he doth inherit in his naturall body as in that he doth inherit in the right of his Crown or politique body it shall be so adjudged for the Dutchy land after the said Statute for the Statute doth go and reach unto the estate condition and order of the lands of the Dutchy but doth not extend to the person of the king who hath the lands in points touching his person neither doth it diminish or alter the preheminences which the Law doth give or attribute to the person of the King For if king Henry 4. after the said Act had made a Lease or other grant of parcell of the Dutchy by the name of H. Duke of Lancaster onely it had been void for it should have been made in the name of Henry 4. king of England And thus stood the Dutchy of Lancaster severed from the Crown all the raign of H. 4. H. 5. and H. 6. being politiquely made for the upholding of the Dutchy of Lancaster their true and ancient inheritance howsoever the right heir unto the Crown might in future time obtain his right thereunto as it happened in king Edward 4. his time But after king Edward 4. obtained his right unto the Crown of England and was in his remitter he in Parliament attainted H. 6. and appropriated unity and annexed the said Dutchy again unto the Crown of England as by the Statute thereof made in the first yeer of his Raign may appear By which Statute three things were ordained 1. First the County Palatine of Lancaster was again established 2. Secondly he did vest it in the body politique of the kings of this Realm 3. Thirdly he did divide it from the order of the Crown-lands and in this force it did continue untill the time of H. 7. who forthwith being descended from the house of Lancaster did separate it onely in order and government from the Crown and so continueth at this day and all that is before spoken concerning the Duke and the Dukedom of Lancaster appeareth in Plowden 212. and that which there followeth Before I write further concerning the Nobility I should set down the form of the Kings Letters Patents of their Creations and the manner of solemnity used in the admittance and investry of Marquesses Earls Viscounts and Barons according to their severall degrees But I do willingly omit so to do partly because in effect the same may appear by that before recited Patent for the Creation of a Duke altering onely such things which of right ought to be altered and partly because their Patents are not onely extant and of Record but also because all those things are to be read in a printed English Book of this subject judicially made by Tho. Mills being a matter also proper to the Colledge and Corporation of Heralds and not unto the drift of my discourse and I will briefly set down some other things observable concerning each of them Of Marquesses A Marquesse that is if we consider the very nature of the word is a Governour of the Marches and hath the next place of honour after a Duke This title came to us but of late dayes and was not bestowed upon any one before the time of King Rich. 2. who made Robert Vere Marquesse of Dublin and then it became with us to be a title of honour for before time those that governed the Marches were called commonly Lords Marchers and not Marquesses After the Normans had conquered this land it was carefully observed by them as a matter of much moment and a point of speciall policie to place upon the confines and borders of the Britains or Welsh c. not then subdued men of much valour not onely sufficiently able to incounter the inrodes and invasions of the enemy but also willing to make on-set of them and inlarge the Conquest these men thus placed were of high bloud credit and countenance among their country-men the Normans and in whose faith and power the Conqueror reposed speciall confidence and trust and therefore in their territories given unto them to hold their tenures were devised to be very speciall and of great importance and their honours inriched with the name and priviledges of Earls of Chester and for the North border of Wales created to be a County Palatine and the Barons of the middle Port of the South Marches were adorned in a manner with a Palatine Jurisdiction having a Court of Chancery and Writs only among themselvs pleadable to th' intent that their attendance might not thence be driven for the prosecution of controversies and quarrells in the Law and as for the other part of the South Marches they seemed sufficiently fenced with the River of Severn and the Sea Of Earls FIrst It is to be observed that originally within this Kingdome Earldomes of Counties in the ancient English Saxon Government were not onely Dignitie● of Honour but also Offices of justice for that they did further the administration of justice in the Counties whereof they were Earls or Aldermen They had likewise their Deputies under them the Sheriff an Officer yet in being and retayning the name of his Substitution

of the Kings eldest Sonne and Heir is crimen lasoe Majestatis high treason or if a man do violate the Wife of the Kings eldest Sonne and Heir it is high treason and see the Statute 20. Hen. 8. cap. 13. And so was the ancient common Law of England and not a new Law made by this Statute Cooks 8. Part. 28.6 But this Statute is a manifestation and declaration or publication of the ancient common Law in this Case By a Statute made in the said 25. yeer of King Ed. 3. It is declared because the people be in ambiguity and doubt of the children born in the parts beyond the Sea out of the Kings Legiance of England should be able to demand any inheritance within the same Legiance or not Whereof a Petition was put into the Parliament late holden at Westminster the 17. yeer of the raign of our Soveraign Lord the King assembled in this Parliament and was not at the same time wholly assented Our Soveraign Lord the King willing that all doubts and ambiguities should be put away and the Law in this case declared and put in a certainty hath charged the said Prelates Earls Barons and other wise men of his Councell assembled in this Parliament to deliberate upon this point who with one assent hath said That the Law of the Crown of England is and alwayes hath been such that Les Enfants du Roy the children of the King of England in whatsoever part they be born in England or elsewhere be able and ought to bear the inheritance after the death of their Ancestors which Law our Soveraign Lord the King the said Prelates Earls Barons and other great men and all the Commons assembled in this Parliament do approve and affirm for ever Note These words in the Statute Les Infants du Roy have briefly set down and in a vulgar manner for loquendum ut vulgus and not in form of exquisite pleading for sentiendum ut docti and therefore ought to be understood largely Cooks 7. part 11.6 and as the Latine word liberi is with the Civilians Bract. lib. 2. cap. 29. hath these words Item descendit jus vero heredi ubicunque nat in fuerit vel in utero matris intra mare vel ultra Nec potest sibi aliquis facere beredem quia solus Deus heredem facit The right doth deseend unto the true Heir wheresoever he shall be born in the Womb of his Mother on this side the Sea or beyond no man can make an Heir unto himself because God only doth make the Heir read the Statute and Cook 7. part 18. a. Where you shall see that though generally the birth-place is observable yet many times Legiance and obedience without any place within the Kings Dominions may make a Subject born for though we see by experience almost in every Parliament Ambassadors Merchants and the Kings souldiers doth shew there in such causes to have their children naturalized or made denixens yet that doth proceed onely of doubt and needlesse scupulosity and ignorance of the Law even as we see men that are doubtfull desire to be resolved as may appear by sundry covenants in bargaining more then necessary And by renuing of Chartes though there be no forfeitures and by suing forth particular pardons when a generall is granted by Parliament Priests and Ministers see to the Parliament for legitimation of their children And in the Articles confirmed by Parliament touching the marriage between Philip Prince of Spain and Queen Mary a speciall proviso was to barre him from being Tenant by the courtesie of the Crown in case he should have iss●e by her and survive which was superfluous because the Common-Law would have denyed this last point See the Lord Cromwels Speech in the case of the Postnati fol. 36. But note that if an Alien Enemy come into this Realm and his Wife English or stranger be delivered of a childe within England this childe notwithstanding his birth-place is an Alien born for want of allegeance in the Parents Ibidem King Henry did create Edward his eldest Sonne the first Prince of Wales and did give unto him the dignity and Dominion of it to be holden of him and his Heirs Kings of England and after that time the eldest sonne of the King of England hath been Prince of Wales and as incident to the State and dignity of a Prince and might make Laws and Statutes and use jurisdiction and authority as amply as any King of that Nation could do Cooks 7. part 21.6 Vide Mills fol. 312. Plowden 126. For Wales was a Kingdom in ancient time But in a Statute made in the 12. Ed. 1. Wales was united and incorporated into England and made parcell of England in possession And note in Tho. Mylls 112. the devise of the said King was to draw the Welchmen to acknowledge the Kings eldest Son Edward of Carnarvan to be their Prince Also by another Statute made 27. Hen. 8. cap. 24. a generall resumption of many liberties and franchises heretofore taken or granted from the Crown as the authority to pardon Treason murther man-slaughter and fellony power to make Justices in Oyre Justices of assize Justices of peace Goal delivery and such like so that from thenceforth the Kings eldest Sonne hath only the name and stile of Prince of Wales but no other Jurisdiction then at the Kings pleasure is permitted him and granted by his Letters Patents as by the tenour thereof following made by King Henry the eight to Edward his sonne and heir apparent may appear Henry Ireland was before 33. Hen. 8. a Lordship and now is a Kingdom and the King of England was as absolute a Prince and Soveraign when he was Lord of Ireland as now when he is stiled King of the same Cooks 7. part By the grace of God King of England and of France Lord of Ireland c. To all Archbishops Bishops Abbots Priors Dukes Earls Barons Justices Viscounts Governours Ministers and to all our Bailiffs and faithfull Subjects greeting out of the excellency of Royall preheminence like as the beams from the Sunne so doth inferiour honour proceed neither doth the integrity of Royall lustre and brightnesse by the naturall disposition of the light-affording light feel any losse or detriment by such borrowed lights yea the Royall Scepter is also much the more extolled and the Royall Throne exalted by how much more noblenesse preeminences and honours are under the power and command thereof And this worthy consideration allureth and induceth us with desire to the increase of the name and honour of our first begotten and best beloved Sonne Edward in whom we behold and see our selves to be honoured and our Royall House also and our people subject to us hoping by the grace of God by conjecture taken of his gratious future proceedings to be the more honourably strengthned that we may with honour prevent and with aboundant grace prosecute him who in reputation of us is deemed the same

then may proceed upon any thing there moved lawfully as lawfull persons for it is not convenient that they who are attainted should be in places of lawfull Judges And then another question was moved What shall be said of the King himself for he also was attainted by his Predecessour Rich. 3. and after communication had amongst themselves all did agree that the King was a person able and discharged of any former attainder ipso facto That he took upon him to raign and to be King by which it manifestly appeareth that by the Laws of England there can be no inter regnum within the same that presently by descent the next heir in blood is cōpleatly and absolutely King without any essentiall Ceremony or act to be done ex post facto And that Coronation is but a royall ornament and outward solemnization of the descent and of this last matter Read Cooks 7 part fol. 10.6 and that there followeth Of Dukes THe form of the Patent of Duke of York that now is Rex c. To all Archbishops Bishops Dukes Marquesses Earls Viscounts Barons Justices Governours Knights Ministers And to all Bailiffs and faithfull Subjects greeting Whereas We often times call to minde how many and innumerable gifts and what excellent benefits that great worker of all goodnesse of his only benignity and clemencie hath abundantly bestowed upon Us who by his power hath consociated divers and mighty Lyons in firm peace without any strife but also hath amplified and exalted the bounds and limits of our Government by his unspeakable providence above our progenitors with an indissolvible conjunction of the ancient and famous Kingdoms in the right of blood under our Imperiall Diadem in regard whereof we cannot but most willingly acknowledge our fruitfulnesse and issue plentifully adorned with the gift of Nature which he hath vouchsafed upon us because in truth in the succession of children a mortall man is made as it were immortall Neither unto any mortall men at leastwise unto Princes not acknowledging superiours can any thing happen in worldly cases more pleasant and acceptable then that their children should become notable in all vertues gooodnesse manners and increase of dignity so as they which excell others in noblenesse of bloud and indowments of Nature might not be thought of others to be exceeded Hence it is that that great goodnesse of God which is shewed unto us in our fertility to passe in silence or to be thought not to satisfie the Law of Nature whereby we are chiefly provoked to be well affected and liberall to those in whom we behold our blood to begin to florish coveting with great and fatherly affection that the perpetuall memory of our blood with honours and increase of dignity and all praise may be affected Our well-beloved Son Charls Duke of Albany Marquesse of Ormond Count of Rosse and Lord of Ardmannoth Our s●cond begotten son in whom the Royall form and beauty worthy honour and other gifts of vertue do now in the best hopes shine in his tender graces We erect create make and ordain and to him the name stile state title dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York do give and him of that Name with the title state stile honour authority and dignity with other honors to the same belonging and annexed by the girding of the sword cap circlet of gold put upon his head and the delivery of a golden Virge we do really invest to have and to hold the same name and stile state and dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York unto the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son and to his heirs males of his body lawfully begotten for ever And that the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son according to the decencie and state of the said name of Duke of York may more honorably carry himself we have given and granted and by this our present Charter we confirm for us and our heirs unto the aforesaid Duke forty pounds to have and yeerly to receive to the foresaid Duke and his heirs for ever out of the Farms issues profits and other commodities whatsoever comming out of the foresaid County of York by the hands of the Sheriffe of the same County for the time being at the Terms of Easter and Michael the Arch-angel by even portions for that expresse mention of other gifts and grants by us unto the same Duke before time made in these presents made doth not appear notwithstanding These be witnesses the most excellent and most beloved Henry Prince our first begotten son Vlrick Duke of Holst brother of the queen our beloved wife and the Reverend Father in Christ Richard Archbishop of Canterbury Primate and Metropolitan of all England and also our welbeloved and faithfull Councellour the Lord Elesmore and Chancellour of England Thomas Earl of Suffolk Chamberlain of our houshold and also our dear cousin Thomas-Earl of Arundel and our well-beloved cousin and Councellour Henry Earl of Northumberland Edward Earl of Worcester Master of our horse George Earl of Cumberland and also our well-beloved cousin Henry Earl of Southampton William Earl of Pembroke and also our well-beloved cousins Charles Earl of Devon Master of our Ordinance Henry Earl of Northampton Warden of the Cinque-Ports John Earl of Marr Robert Viscount Eranborne our principall Secretary and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Edward Lord Zuch President of our Councell in the Principality and Marches of Wales and also ou● wel-beloved and trusty Robert Lord Willoughby of Earsby William Lord Mounteagle Gray Lord Chandois William Lord Compton Francis Lord Norris Robert Lord Sidney our well-beloved and faithfull Councellours William Lord Knowles Treasurer of our houshold Edward Lord Wotton Comptroller of out houshold and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Alexander Lord and also our wel-beloved and faithfull Councellors George Dunbarr Lord of Barwick Chancellour of our Exchequer Edward Lord Bruse of Kinlose Master of the Rolls of our Chancery and also our faithfull and well-beloved Thomas Lord Eskine of Bielton Lord Balmermoth and others given by our hand at our Pallace of Westminster the sixth day of January in the second yeer of the Raign of K. James K. Edw. 3. in the 11 year of his Raign by his Charter in Parliament and by authority of Parliament did create Edw. his eldest son the Black-Prince D. of Cornwall not onely in title but cum feodo with the Dutchy of Cornwall as by the tenour of the said Letters Patents exemplified may appear Cooks 8 part in the pleading Habend ' et tenend ' eidem duci et ipsius et heraed ' suorum Regum Angliae siliis primogenitis et dicti loci ducibus in Regno Augliae hereditatoria successoris To have and to bold to the same Duke and his heirs Kings of England the first begotten sons and Dukes of the same place in the kingdom of England and to hereditary succession so that he that is hereditable must be heir apparant of the King of England

act in law presently upon the death of the Ancestor unto the heire or not at all Wherefore the custome of our countrey and manifold presidents doe prove that this kind of Barony doth descend from the Ancestors to the heire and there needs not any words of heirs in the writ of summons Onely one president there is in a speciall writ sometimes directed to Sir Henry Bromsted in 27. H. 6. wherein he was stiled Lord Veysey wherein there are these words inserted Volumus tamen vos haeredes vestros masculos de corpore vestro legitimè procreatos excuntes Barones de Veysey existere which is to bee read in Co. 7. part 33. b. Wherefore as it is true that where the heire of any such Baron by writ is called to the Parliament that his descent of honour is thereby established and approved by the gracious judgment of our sacred Soveraigne so it is also true that if it shall stand with his Highnesse pleasure that such heire shall not be summoned at all for none can come to so high a Councel unlesse he be called then that Nobility is much empaired and in a manner extinguished in the censure of all men for that it had none other originall but by writ of summons from the which in the judgment of the supreme soveraign he is excluded As to the second principall point whether the Barony by writ may descend to the heires females it shall not be amisse likewise to view the reasons of either part and by conflict of argument the truth may the better be discerned Those that maintain the affirmative part do reason after this manner In reason the sexe of the heire female ought no more to bar her of the dignity than the nonage of the heire male ought to bar him although during his nonage he be unable to do the service but as the service of the one is forborne for a time so the sexe of the other may at all times be supplied by the maturity and sufficiency of her husband Offices of honour which do much import the publique weale being passed by inheritance do descend to the heire female if there be no nearer heire male As the office of the high Constableship of England which descended to the daughters of Humphrey de Bohun Earle of Hereford and Essex a memoriall whereof is in Dyer 285. but more at large in Keilway 6. H. 8. Also the office of Lord-Steward descended to Blanch daughter to H. Earle of Lancaster the like may be said of the office of Earle Marshall which descended by an heire female unto the house of Norfolk all which offices are unfit to be exercised by a woman as it is unfit for a woman to be summoned to the Parliament as a Baronesse by writ And many noble houses in England do support the dignity of Baronage unto them descended by women They which stand on the negative part of this controversie do encounter their adversaries on this manner viz. The writ of summons to the Parliament whereby the Baron by writ hath his originall is to call that honourable and worthy person so summoned to be one of the number of that right high and honourable Assembly and to be a Judge to sit heare and determine life and member plea and right of land if there shall come occasion likewise to give counsell and advice in the most weighty affaires of the Realme But these things are convenient for the quality of men unfitting and altogether unbeseeming the sexe of women Ergo having respect unto the finall purpose of such writs such inheritances should only descend unto the heire male and not unto the heire female Secondly if it shall be answered that although the heire female to whom such inheritance is descended be unfit in her owne person for the accomplishing of these things yet she may marry with one sufficiently able for her and in her behalf to execute the same this answer will neither satisfie nor salve the inconveniences For admit that such heire female were at full age at the death of her Ancestor unmarried it doth lie in her own choice who shall be her husband so shall the pleasure of the Soveraigne in the choice of his Councell in the great causes of the Realme be subject to the will of his subject in the choice of her husband which were altogether inconvenient Thirdly if such husband shall be called in the right of his wife the writ should make some mention hereof for otherwise it may well be taken that the husband was chosen in his own person and in behalfe of himselfe and not in regard of his wife or such pretended dignity descended unto him But there was never such writ of summons seen wherein the wife was mentioned and if the husband of such wife have been called to the Parliament which is alwayes by generally writ not mentioning his wife he is now made thereby a Baron of himself and in his own right by that writ Having thus heard both sides speak place doth now require to interpose opinion to compound this controversie This question or point is somewhat perplexed by means of difficult presidents for first it is observed that some presidents do prove that Baronies by writs have descended unto heires females whose husbands have beene called to the Parliament whether in regard of themselves or in regard of their wives it matten not But sure it is that the marriage of such Ladies gave them occasion so to be summoned and such husbands and their posterity have and do lawfully beare the same name of dignity which the Ancestors of such wife did before rightfully beare For by this controversie there is no purpose to call the right of such noble houses into question Howbeit secondly this is to be observed out of the presidents and to be acknowledged of every dutifull subject that the Kings Majesty is neverthelesse at liberty to call to the high Councell of Parliament whom his Highnesse shall in his Princely wisdom think most meet which his Majesties Progenitors have in former ages observed And therefore whereas Radulph Lord Cromwell being a Baron by writ died without issue having two sisters and coheirs Eliz. the eldest married to Sir Tho. Nevill Knight and Joan the younger married Sir Hunt Bourcher he who had married the younger sister was called to the Parliament as L. Cromwell and not the said Sir Tho. Nevill who had married the elder sister 3. It is to be observed that if a Baron by writ die without heire male having his daughter sister or other collaterall heire male that doth or can challenge the lands of the said Baron deceased by any ancient entaile or otherwise the title of such heire female hath bin heretofore allowed as by the honourable opinions and relations of the right honourable the late Commissioners in the office of Earle Marshall signified unto the late Queene upon the Petition of the sister and heire of Gregory late Lord Dacres deceased may appeare Moreover in the