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A56321	The declaration of John Pym Esquire upon the whole matter of the charge of high treason against Thomas Earle of Strafford, April 12, 1641 with An argument of law concerning the bill of attainder of high treason of the said Earle of Strafford, before a committee of both Houses of Parliament, in Westminster Hall by Mr. St. Iohn His Majesties solicitor Generall, on Thursday, April 29, 1641 / both published by order of the Commons House.	Pym, John, 1584-1643.; St. John, Oliver, 1598?-1673. Argument of law concerning the bill of attainder of high-treason of Thomas Earle of Strafford.	1641 (1641)	Wing P4262; ESTC R182279	46,678	116

The Kings writ runs not within the County Palatine of Chester and Durham nor within the five Ports neither did it in Wales before the union in Henry the eighth's time after the Lawes of England were brought into Wales in King Edward the first 's time suits were not originally commenced in Westminst Hall for things done in them yet this never excluded the Parliament suits for life lands and goods within those jurisdictions are determinable in Parliament as well as in any other parts of the Realme Ireland as appeares by the Statute of the thirtieth yeer of Henry the third before mentioned is united to the Crowne of England By the Statute of the eight and twentieth yeere of Henry the sixth in Ireland it is declared in these words That Ireland is the proper Dominion of England and united to the Crowne of England which Crowne of England is of it selfe and by it selfe fully wholly and entirely endowed with all power and authority sufficient to yeeld to the subjects of the same full and plenary remedy in all debates and suits whatsoever By the Statute of the three and thirtieth yeer of Henry the eighth the first Chapter when the Kings of England first assumed the title of King of Ireland it is there enacted That Ireland still is to bee held as a Crown annexed and united to the Crown of England So that by the same reason from this that the Kings writ runs not in Ireland it might aswell bee held that the Parliament cannot originally hold plea of things done within the County Palatine of Chester Durham nor within the five Ports Wales Ireland is part of the Realme of England as appears by those Statutes aswell as any of them This is made good by constant practice In all the Parliament rolls from the first to the last there are receivers and tryers of petitions appointed for Ireland For the Irish to come so farre with their petitions for justice and the Parliament not to have cognizance when from time to time they had in the beginning of the Parliament appointed receivers and tryers of them is a thing not to bee presumed An appeale in Ireland brought by William Lord Vescye against John Fitz Thomas for treasonable words there spoken before any Judgement given in the case there was removed into the Parliament in England and there the defendant acquitted as appeares in the Parliament pleas of the two and twentieth yeere of Edward the first The suits for lands offices and goods originally begun here are many and if question grew upon matter in fact a Jury usually ordered to try it and the verdict returned into Parliament as in the case of one Balliben in the Parliament of the five and thirtieth yeere of Edward the first If doubt arose upon a matter triable by Record a writ went to the Officers in whose custody the Record remained to certifie the Record as was in the case of Robert Bagot the same Parliament of the five and thirtieth yeere of Edward the first where the writs went to the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer Sometimes they gave judgement here in Parliament and commanded the Judges there in Ireland to doe execution as in the great case of petition between the coparceners of the Earle Marshall in the Parliament of the three and thirtieth yeere of Edward the first where the writ was awarded to the Treasurer of Ireland My Lords The Lawes of Ireland were introduced by the Parliaments of England as appeares by three Acts of Parliament before cited It is of higher jurisdiction dare Leges then to judge by them The Parliaments of England doe binde in Ireland if Ireland bee particularly mentioned as is resolved in the Book case of the first yeere of Henry the seventh Cokes seventh Report Calvins case and by the Judges in Trinity Terme in the three and thirtieth yeere of Queene Elizabeth The Statute of the eighth yeere of Edward the fourth the first Chapter in Ireland recites that it was doubted amongst the Judges whether all the English Statutes though not naming Ireland were in force there if named no doubt From King Henry the third his time downward to the eighth yeere of Queene Elizabeth by which Statute it is made felony to carry sheepe from Ireland beyond seas in almost all these Kings reignes there be Statutes made concerning Ireland The exercising of the Legislative power there over their lives and estates is higher then of the Judiciall in question Untill the nine and twentieth yeere of Edward the third erroneous judgements given in Ireland were determinable no where but in England no not in the Parliaments of Ireland as it appeares in the close rolls in the Tower in the nine and twentieth yeere of Edward the third membr 12. Power to examine and reverse erroneous judgements in the Parliaments of Ireland is granted from hence Writs of errour lie in the Parliament hereupon erroneous judgements after that time given in the Parliaments of Ireland as appears in the Parliament rolls of the eighth yeere of Henry the sixth no. 70. in the case of the Prior of Lenthan It is true the case is not determined there for it 's the last thing that came into the Parliament and could not be determined for want of time but no exception at all is taken to the jurisdiction The Acts of Parliament made in Ireland have bin confirmed in the Parliaments of England as appears by the close rolls in the Tower in the two and fortieth yeere of Edward the third memb 20. dorso where the Parliament in Ireland for the preservation of the Countrey from the Irish who had almost destroyed it made an Act that all the land owners that were English should reside upon their lands or else they were to bee forfeited This was here confirmed In the Parliament of the fourth yeer of Henry the fifth chap. 6. Acts of Parliament in Ireland are confirmed and some priviledges of the Peeres in the Parliaments there are regulated Power to repeale Irish Statutes power to confirme them cannot be by the Parliament here if it hath not cognizance of their Parliaments unlesse it be said That the Parliament may doe it knowes not what Garnesey and Jersey are under the Kings subjection but are not parcels of the Crowne of England but of the Duchy of Normandy they are not governed by the Lawes of England as Ireland is and yet Parliaments in England have usually held plea of and determined all causes concerning lands or goods In the Parliament of 33. H. i● there be plactia de Insula Jernesey and so in the Parliament 14. E. 2. and so for Normandy and Gascoyne and alwaies as long as any part of France was in subjection to the Crown of England there were at the beginning of the Parliaments receivers and tryers of petitions for those parts appointed I beleeve your Lordships will have no cases shewed of any plea to the jurisdiction of the Parliaments of England in any things done in any

in execution Diverse had beene attaineted of Treason for executing such Commands Heere is a Treason soe made by Acte of Parliament in Henry the sixt time In the third Chapter of this Parliament of the tenth of Henry the seventh an Act is passed for no other end then to repeale this Statute of Henry the sixt of Treason If this Statute of Henry the sixt of Treason had beene formerly repealed by the Statute of 8. Edw. 4. or then by the two and twentieth Chapter of this Parliament of 10. H. 7. by bringing in the English Statutes the Law-makers were much mistaken now to make a particular Act of Parliament to repeale it it being likewise so unreasonable an Act as it was In the eighth Chapter of this Parliament of the tenth of Henry the seaventh It 's enacted That the Statutes of Killkenny and all other Statutes made in Ireland two onely excepted whereof this of the eighteenth of Henry the sixt is none for the Common-weale shall bee enquired off and executed My Lord of Strafford saith that the bringing in of the English Statutes hath repealed this Statute of the eighteenth yeere of Henry the sixt the Acte of Parliament made the same time saith noe it saith that all the Irish Statutes excepting two whereof this is none shall still bee in force Object Oh! But however it was in 10. Hen. 7. yet it appeares by Judgement in Parliament afterwards That this Statute of the eighteenth yeere of Henry the sixt is repealed and that is by the Parliament of the eleventh yeere of Queene Elizabeth the seventh Chapter That by this Parliament it is enacted that if any man without license from the Lord Deputie lay any Souldiers upon the Kings Subjects if hee bee a Peere of the Realme hee shall forfeite one hundred pounds if under the degree of a Peere 100. markes This Statute as is alleadged declares the penalty of laying Souldiers upon the Subjects to bee onely a hundred pounds and therefore it s not Treason Answer My Lords if the offence for which this penalty of one hundered pounds is laid upon the offender bee for laying Souliders or leading them to doe any acts offensive or invasive upon the Kinges people The Argument hath some force but that the offence is not for laying Souldiers upon the true Subjects that this is not the offence intended in the Statute will appeare to your Lordshippes Ex absurdo from the wordes of it The words are That if any man shall assemble the people of the Country together to conclude of peace or warre or shall carry those people to doe any Acts offensive or invasive then hee shall forfeite one hundred pounds If concluding of warre and carrying the people to Acts invasive bee against the Kinges Subjects this is high Treason within the words of the Statute of the five and twentieth yeere of Edward the third For if any Subject shall assemble the people and conclude a warre and accordingly shall leade them to invade the Subject this is a levying of warre within the wordes of that Statute and then the Statutes of the five and twentieth yeer of Edward the third the first of Henry the fourth and the first of Queene Mary which the Earle of Strafford in his Answer desires to bee tryed by are as well repealed in this point as the Statute of the eighteenth yeere of Henrie the sixt hee might then without feare of Treason have done what hee pleased with the Irish Army for all the Statutes of levying warre by this Statute of the eleventh Yeere of Queene ELIZABETH were taken out of his way In Ireland a Subject gathers forces concludes a warre against the Kings people actually invades them blood-shedde burning of houses Depredations ensue two of those that is murder and burning of houses are Treason and there the other fellony by this construction the punishment of Treason and fellony is turned onely into a fine of one hundred pounds from losse of life lands and all his goods onely to losse of part of his goods The third absurdity a warre is concluded three severall Inrodes are made upon the Subject in the first a hundred pound Damage in the second five thousand pound Dammage in the third tenne thousand pound Dammage is done to the Subjects the penalty for the last inrode is no more then for the first only one hundred pounds This Statute by this construction tells any man how to get his living without long labour Two parts of the hundred pounds is given to the King a third part to the informer heer 's no dammage to the Subject that is robbed and destroyed My Lords the Statute will free it selfe and the makers of it from these absurdities The meaning of this Statute is That if any Captaine shall of his owne head conclude of peace or warre against the Kings Enemies or Rebels or shall upon his owne head invade them without warrant from the King of the Lord Deputie of Ireland that then hee shall forfeite a hundred pounds The offence is not for laying of Souldiers upon the Kings people but making of warre against the Irish Rebells without warrant the offence is not in the matter but in the manner for doing a thing lawfull but without mission 1. This will appeare by the generall scope of the Stat. all the parts being put together 2. By particular clauses in the Statute And 3. By the Condition of that Kingdome at the time of the making of that Statute For the first The preamble recites that in time of Declination of Justice under pretext of defending the Country and themselves divers great men arrogated to themselvs regal authority under the names of Captains that they acquired to themselves that government which belonged to the Crowne for preventing of this It s enacted that no man dwelling within the Shire grounds shall thenceforth assume or take upon himselfe the authority or name of a Captaine within those Shire grounds without Letters Pattents from the Crown nor shall under colour of his Captainesship make any demand of the people of any exaction nor as a Captaine assemble the people of the Shire grounds nor as a Captaine shall leade those people to doe any acts offensive or invasive without warrant under the great Seale of England or of the Lord Deputie upon penalty that if hee doe any thing contrary to that act then the Offendor shall forfeite a hundred pounds My Lords the Rebells had beene out the Courts of justice scarce sat for defence of the Country diverse usurped the place of Captaines concluded of warre against the Rebells invaded them without warrant invading the Rebells without authority is the crime This appeares further by particular clauses in the Statute none shall exercise any Captaineship within the Shire grounds nor assemble the men of the Shire grounds to conclude of Warre or leade them to any invasion That that had anciently beene so continued to this time that is the Irish and the English pale they within the