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A87938 A Letter from a protestant in Ireland, to a member of the House of Commons in England. Vpon occasion of the treaty in that kingdome. 1643 (1643) Wing L1432; Thomason E75_4 8,309 12

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is no comfortable thing to believe You say you will bring those to condigne punishment who advised the late Commission to heare what the Rebells can say or propound for their own advantage If you can charge them with no other crime but that Advice they will never feare the barre of Justice Why are you offended do you conceive the case of the Rebells to be such as by any skill or managery in a free and publique debate may get credit It were an austere reservednesse in the King for which God Almighty would require a strict account of Him when those He trusts here present the misery of their condition to him and implore his care and protection and when those from whom all the mischiefes seem to proceed pretend to do all those mischiefes in their own defence and desire to be heard for themselves if he should refuse to hear them because they are Rebells Wee have seen a Declaration of yours in which you seem with great vehemency to accuse the King that He refused to receive a Petition from you to hear what you could say for your selves and it was a charge of so great weight that we find the King taking much paines to free Himself from by absolutely denying it as conceiving it an unkingly thing not to heare what the worst Subject can alleadge in his own defence How comes His Office to be so inverted must the King of England receive all Petitions and the King of Ireland refuse all Indeed if the King were guided by such sinister Rules of Policy and Craft as govern your Actions he would not now subject himself to the difficulties and hazard of recovering what you have with so much Industry and Cunning made desperate and would content himself that the blood of this poore People should be cast upon your Account and that Posterity might see that the losse of such a Kingdom was the fruit of a perpetual Parliament But His Majesty is too much acquainted with the Royall duty of a King to think he can depute His Office of protecting to other hands and be excused if by their ill managery a Nation committed to his care be lost I assure you all sober men here are so farre from repining at this Commission which you are so scandalized with that we look upon it as the dawning of that power which for so many moneths hath been eclipsed by the interposition of a monstrous and unnaturall Iurisdiction and which we hope will every day break out with that brightnesse that will dispell those Mists and Clouds of confusion which hath so fatally covered us and that instead of the punishment you threaten we shall have cause to erect Trophyes to that Counsell which advised this blessed overture of Accommodation You will expect I know my Opinion of your New Covenant which you have prepared for the three Kingdomes and which you say will unite all your Party and distinguish you from your Adversaries I wish it would I would there were so much sense of Religion left that for pietie and conscience sake men would refuse the taking of any Oathes your experience tells you the contrary and you see your selves every day left by those of whom you thought you were very sure under that bond they looking upon themselves as awed and compelled to take it and so absolved from the obligation at the instant they are forced to sweare and in truth you might consider that if they have heretofore sworne any thing that is contrary to this you have no reason to expect that they should observe this Oath who have broken the former and I must tell you 't is a shrewd evidence that what you propose is not the desire and solicitation of the Kingdome when you are put to these shifts by Force and Fraude by Threats and Promises to croude the free-born Subjects into a Faction you see the King does not countermine you with these Arts and Preparatives He applies no Anti-Covenants to His followers not so much as reinforces the known lawfull Oathes of Allegiance and Supremacy He is contented to depend upon the naturall fruits of Loyalty Honour and Generosity under which Obligation His handfull of men have swollen into thousands and spread themselves almost over all the Kingdom whil'st the Proselites under your Oathes Covenants and Protestations waste daily and fall off and are well neer shrunk from the foure quarters of the Realme which they possessed within the verge of one City And if you consider how many of those who have taken this new Covenant you have sent mee even at the time of taking it desire in their hearts That Episcopacy should still continue and how many more who hate Bishops and think them Anti-Christian would yet rather live under them then under a Presbytery which is the case of the Independents and both these and many more who are so farre from caring what Government of the Church is established that they would be content all the Churches in England were pulled downe and both Preaching and Praying put downe for seven yeers are directly bound to set up the Presbytery I lay when you consider that men of these severall and distinct tempers with the same zeale take this Covenant 't is no wonder that in stead of Union you finde nothing but jealousie and Confusion amongst your selves and instead of advancing the Religion you pretend to you draw upon you a generall suspition of having no Conscience or sense of Religion at all For the comming in of the Scots which you say is your greatest and last hope I confesse I think you will be deceived But by the way you are wonderfull kinde to us to advise us to Petition against Peace whilest you are labouring to draw so great a part of our Army as the Scots in Vister from assisting Vs to serve you in England 't is too great a businesse for me to deliver an opinion in but me thinks it should lessen very much your reputation with the People to see that after your charging the King so long with the purpose of bringing in Forraine Forces which you have pressed as the most odious charge and as a colour and ground for most of your Actions you your selves at last call in Forraigne Ayde to helpe you to doe that which you had or can have no pretence of doing but that all the people of England desire it and doe not thinke that saying they are your Brethren of Scotland and your fellow Subjects will make them be thought lesse Forraigne power you will not be content that the King shall call in the Irish under the same consideration and can you thinke it possible if the Scots shall obey your desires herein which after all their Vowes and Covenants of Loyalty Duty and Affection to their native KING I cannot thinke they will ever doe that the KING will not powre in all the Forces He can procure from all the parts of the World both into that and the other Kingdome No doubt he looks upon that Remedy as the most grievous and most hazardous and therefore with great mercy to His people hath not suffered Himselfe to be tempted by all His wants all His weaknesse and your example of entertaining so many Dutch Walloones and all Nations against him to suffer such a supply which infallibly he might long since have had but if you ●●●ll be contented to give away your Countrey to strangers for doe not thinke they will be as easily got out as they are brought in and that you may be revenged of those you have injured involve the whole Kingdom in such a lasting confusion you 〈◊〉 not wonder if strangers be brought in to beat out strangers though all the mischief is to be done at the charge of your poor Countrey I say I cannot beleeve though some particular Persons may be concerned to keep up this distraction that the Scotch Nation will engage themselves in a quarrell against their Native KING to whom they have such generall and particular Obligations and against the whole Nobility and Gentry of England for matters in no degree Relative to their own affaires and venture that blessed calme and Peace they now enjoy only to kindle a fire amongst their Neighbours which probably will not be quenched till it hath burned to their own habitations They know well the inveterate mortall hatred this Nation of Ireland bears to them and how glad they would be to be let loose to their revenge and they are too wise to think the two Houses whose publike Faith stands so deeply engaged will be as liberall and bountifull a Master to them as their Royall Soveraign Be not deceived One of their principall Commanders upon whose personall assistance you much depend asked me whether I thought them so sottish to declare themselves against their King whilest the two Houses were governed by my Lord Say who hated their Religion and the Army by the Earle of Essex who hated both their Religion and Nation and then told me the bitter invectives made by the first against a Presbytery and the sharpe and scornfull mention by the other of the Scots and Scotland And intruth if ever they enter into your Kingdome the mischiefe and confusion they will bring in not submitting to your Government for what discipline soever they affect in the Church they are assuredly for independency in the State will be greater then the advantage and Ayde you will receive by their supplies In a word besides the perfect hatred you will finde from all the Northern parts which you have thrown away to them and which must be inhabited by them you will finde your selves deserted by all men who have any desire of Peace and are not willing to entayle this Warre from Generation to Generation DUBLIN this third of October 1643.