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impeachment_n or_o accusation_n that_o shall_v be_v exhibit_v by_o they_o as_o the_o cause_n shall_v according_a to_o the_o course_n of_o parliament_n require_v do_v pray_v that_o the_o say_a earl_n may_v be_v put_v to_o answer_v for_o all_o and_o every_o of_o the_o premise_n that_o such_o proceed_n examination_n trial_n and_o judgement_n may_v be_v upon_o every_o of_o they_o have_v and_o use_v as_o be_v agreeable_a to_o law_n and_o justice_n tuesday_n november_n 24_o 1640._o these_o article_n thus_o resolve_v upon_o by_o question_n be_v by_o another_o question_n engross_v ordered_n to_o be_v engross_v against_o to_o morrow_n morning_n and_o no_o copy_n to_o be_v deliver_v of_o they_o in_o the_o interim_n and_o the_o same_o committee_n that_o prepare_v the_o charge_n be_v to_o draw_v up_o the_o interrogatory_n and_o mr._n pym_n be_v to_o go_v up_o to_o the_o lord_n with_o the_o charge_n wednesday_n november_n 25_o 1640._o lord_n digby_n go_v up_o with_o this_o message_n to_o the_o 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which_o have_v be_v former_o represent_v to_o your_o lordship_n 11._o the_o petitioner_n do_v most_o hearty_o bemoan_v that_o his_o majesty_n service_n and_o profit_n be_v much_o more_o impair_v than_o advance_v by_o the_o grievance_n aforesaid_a and_o the_o subsidy_n grant_v in_o the_o last_o parliament_n have_v much_o increase_v his_o majesty_n revenue_n by_o the_o buy_n of_o grant_n and_o otherwise_o and_o that_o all_o his_o majesty_n debt_n then_o due_a in_o this_o kingdom_n be_v satisfy_v out_o of_o the_o say_a subsidy_n and_o yet_o his_o majesty_n be_v of_o late_a as_o the_o petitioner_n have_v be_v inform_v in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o become_v indebt_v in_o this_o kingdom_n in_o great_a sum_n and_o they_o do_v therefore_o humble_o beseech_v that_o a_o exact_a account_n may_v be_v send_v to_o his_o majesty_n how_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n his_o treasure_n be_v issue_v 12._o the_o petitioner_n do_v humble_o conceive_v just_a and_o great_a fear_n at_o a_o proclamation_n 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