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A48635 Observations on the letter written by the Duke of Buckingham to Sir Thomas Osborn, upon the reading of a book called The present interest of England stated written in a letter to a friend. Bethel, Slingsby, 1617-1697.; Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.; Leeds, Thomas Osborne, Duke of, 1631-1712.; Lisola, François Paul, baron de, 1613-1674. 1689 (1689) Wing L2374; ESTC R37612 25,658 54

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own Trade or Greatness for were it otherwise nothing could be more for our Security against Invasions and the Profit of England than to destroy in time the French in their Shipping and thereby in their Maritime Commerce before they are overgrown in Strength and Trade in both which from young Interlopers they are in a short time too much increased especially in our Newfoundland Fishery where they have almost eaten us out to the unspeakable prejudice of the Western Parts though that Trade was once our greatest Nursery for Seamen and might have been much more improved and is of such a Nature as the Dutch were not capable of doing us much prejudice in or at least as they never attempted to do us any The Letter reproves the Pamphlets inviting all Princes into the Triple League scoffing at it as absurd the League being now determined and to evince the Error gives this account of the League That the French King being entred Flanders with a very powerful Army the Kings of England Sweden and the States of Holland entred into a Confederacy with design to force the French to make Peace upon such Terms as should be proposed by them and therein wisely to prevent the growing Greatness of France and at the same time the Confederates made Articles amongst themselves to help one another in case any of them should be invaded for having made this League either by the French King the King of Spain or any of their Allies and upon the acceptance of the Articles proposed the Confederates became their Guarranty or Sureties for performance of them on both sides And now this being the State of the Case where the Absurdity or Bull lies in making no distinction between the Triple League and the Guarranty of the Peace is beyond my apprehension for the League as is confessed being made to induce that is to force the French King to a Peace the King of Spain who was Invaded standing in no need of Compulsion and the Confederacy continuing for warranting of the said Agreement which in effect is no less than an honest and prudent League for keeping the French within tolerable Bounds and Limits and for the assistance of each other against any that should endeavour to revenge this Confederacy the Triple League seems to me as it is confessed by the Letter it self at the lower end of Page 15. to be still in being and the Expression to be as properly used as that of Guarranty as being one and the same thing for the Guarranty aiming at the same end the League doth and being one Article of the Confederacy the Triple League must be still in being as well as the Guarranty And surely it was the last Session of Parliament thought so to be when Money was desired for maintaining of it But this Sir is not worth contending about for the matter being clearly laid down by the Letter the judgment of it is left to your self As I am no Statist nor pretender to it so it concerns not me to enquire further into the Articles agreed on by his Majesty with the Swede and Dutch than is made publick nor in the least to attempt the Censuring any Action of State for that shall always be Foreign to me but yet I presume I may without offence say it doth not appear to me as it doth to the Author of the Letter that the Emperor and Princes of Germany could not have been taken into the Triple League by the Confederates without engaging to assist them upon occasion against the Turk for as we find that it hath been ordinary for Princes to limit and proportion their Leagues according to their Interests so it is irrational to do otherwise And it doth not follow that because it is the Interest of the Emperor and Princes of Germany to enter into a League with other Princes for keeping the French King from unjustly incroaching upon his Neighbours that therefore those Princes contrary to their manifest Interest should enter into a League with them against the Turk But I Honour the Author of the Letter for the care he expresseth to have for the prevention of War to this Nation and for the rest and quiet of the poor People of England Page 9. The Pamphlet not being concerned in the complaint against those that blame the breach with Holland because of the Tripple League I shall pass that over agreeing fully with the Author that Self-preservation is chiefly to be preferred Salus Populi suprema Lex The Author of the Letter in his treating of the Interest of England hath several Observations and Notions deserving consideration which I shall reduce to these six Heads following First That our Increase in Power since the time of Queen Elizabeth of famous Memory is not proportionable to the increase of the Dutch Page 12. Secondly That the Dutch being so powerful at Sea as they now are may by joyning with the French whenever they will agree upon it endanger the Conquest of England and keeping to themselves the most considerable parts in it for Trade being Masters at Sea provide for their own Security against the greatness of France Page 12. Thirdly That it is not Wisdom for any Nation to have its Safety depend upon the Prudence of another as in relying upon its being against the Interest of Holland to Invade England because they may mistake their Interest Page 12. Fourthly That a Conquest of England being made the Dutch Government being more easie and indulging Trade than the Arbitrary and Severe Regiment of France as also their Religion concurring more with ours than that of France the Trading Party of England would be likelier to close with the first than the latter and for the like Reason should Holland be ever in danger of a Conquest by the Conjunction of England with France they would rather choose to become part of the English Government than submit to the Power of France For that their joyning with us and therein making it as much our Interest to promote their Trade as the Trade of any other Nation may answer that Objection That their fear of our obstructing their Trade will make them averse to us Page 13. Fifthly That it is not probable that the Dutch will ever agree to put themselves under the Dominion of the French who will not trust them without such Advantages as may compel them to observe their Promises as the other will never give them such a Power lest they should make a corrupt use of it Page 14. Sixthly That considering the Situation and Constitutions of England a Coalition with us would prove more acceptable and advantageous to them than any Terms they can expect from the French and that should we get no more than the Maritime Towns and the French all the rest of the States Dominions we should have no cause to repent our Bargain Page 14. These Notions contain the substance of that part of the Letter which treats of the Interest of England the first of which I
altogether inconsistent with and Enemies to Trade and Commerce will always cause Traders to change Bondage for Liberty or at least in hopes of better Entertainment one Country for another as did the Subversion of the Florentine Government in that Country and as they were preparing to do the like in Holland when they feared the late Prince of Orange's overturning that State for the Antipathy betwixt Merchants and Souldiers is such that all Monarchs of Trading Countries have ever held it their Interest to keep their great Trading Towns free from a Mercenary Militia and it is exceeding difficult if not Morally impossible for a Prince to advance Trade to any great height where the People are under the awe of a standing Military Power and the French King seems to own the truth of this in that finding the benefit of Commerce he is even in France content that his Trading Cities should be freed from Souldiers and more gently used than the rest of his Country for so far as the Nature of his Arbitrary Government will permit he studieth all manner of ways to advance Trade As First By totally prohibiting such Foreign Commodities and Manufactures as his People are capable of making sufficient to serve his Country as Train-Oyl c. Secondly By burthening others with high Customs and Impositions to the end to incourage his own Artisans and Seamen thereby making the Trade of England thither very prejudicial to us our Transportations hence being inconsiderable to our Importations thence and as they improve in any Faculty so they either Prohibit or Increase their Impositions upon the Importation of the Foreign-made Commodities of that Faculty And Thirdly As an Incouragement to Trade the French King hath lately declared the Exercise of Commerce in a Gentleman to be no prejudice to his Quality having also erected an Academy for breeding his Nobility to Sea Affairs and teaching them the Art of Navigation c. All which may well Alarm England to a Jealousie of their Designs as most dangerous to it and to look upon the French as those Rivals whom if hatred be lawful as the Letter in this Case seems to make it we ought most to hate for should they once come to Vie with us in Trade or Naval strength we should find them to exceed all that ever went before them in Insolency Injustice and Selfishness And whether the second part of this Notion hath a good Foundation which asserts That should England get but the Sea Towns alone leaving the rest of the States Dominions to the French we should have no cause to repent our Bargain I will not presume to judge yet this I think considerable in the Case that should the Inlands of the United Provinces and with them all the Conquered places fall to the share of the French as by the late published Proposals in Dutch if true they seem to pretend unto the Letter then having thereby the command of the Rivers of Rhine and Mase c. together with Sluce and the other Garrisons which shut up the Trade of Flanders and Brabant they will have it in their Power to render all the parts of the Seventeen Provinces which will remain to the Kings of England and Spain of no more use to them than they please to allow of First Because the Sea-Towns of the United Netherlands cannot be divided from the Inlands from which they receive their nourishment nor deprived of the use of their Rivers by which they drive their Trades without utter ruine to them and making them thereby an intolerable Burthen to their Masters Secondly Because the Spanish Netherlands will thereby be so invironed or rather beleaguered by the French Garrisons and Forces on all sides as well towards Germany Holland and Zealand c. as towards France that having no means left them for forming or maintaining an Army as any that know those Countries must confess they will always be at the French King's Devotion and when assaulted by him without possibility of contributing any considerable assistance to their own Deliverance or to make the Triple League of any use to them Thirdly Because such will be the enervated condition of the Spanish Netherlands that the King of Spain will be necessitated as not being able to maintain them longer than the French will permit him either to quit them voluntarily or if he can obtain so much Favour to make an exchange or Sale of them to the French King who then having Flanders and Brabant which he hath so long thirsted after and all the Rivers belonging to them in his own hands will assuredly for the advantage of himself and his own Countries even in times of Peace so obstruct and hinder the Trade of the Maritime Towns of Holland Zealand and Friezland if in the possession of any but himself and in times of War totally shut them up by Land as will restore Flanders and Brabant to their ancient Trade and make a new Holland of them which being in the hands of the French will probably prove abundantly worse to England than the old if large experience of Injuries and Injustices committed in Trade by them against this Nation may warrant a Conclusion as by the Certificate under the Lord Ambassador Hollis his hand which I send you here inclosed given upon an order of his Majesties Privy-Council Dated the 17th of April 1667. in the Case of Sir Francis Toppe and Company doth for one instance sufficiently appear Nay such is the envious care of the French that no Nation should Get or Thrive by them that as Mr. Samuel Fortrey one of the Gentlemen of his Majesties Privy-Chamber reporteth in his Book Printed 1663. and Dedicated to King Charles the Second not many years ago they suspecting through mistakes that England had an advantage of them in their Trade for France they were upon Counsels for Prohibiting all Trade with England until upon a strict examination they found that whereas England vented of their Commodities into France not to above the value of Ten hundred thousand pounds per Annum France vented of theirs to the English Six and twenty hundred thousand Pounds and then finding that they had Sixteen hundred thousand Pounds advantage in the Ballance they soon let fall their design though yet not without burthening English Manufactures with New Impositions in such manner as might much hinder the vent of them in their Country Mr. Fortrey in the aforementioned Book doth not only recite the very Ballance of Trade it self which he affirms was presented to the French King to shew the advantage they have in their Trade with England but also adds further that hereby it may appear how insensibly our Treasure will be Exhausted and the Nation Beggered whilst we carelesly neglect our own Interest and Strangers abroad are diligent to make their advantage by us And it is of no little consideration that the French should so far Overvalue themselves as to increase their Impositions upon Dutch Commodities to a degree of Prohibiting them
must not at present deny because the Auxiliary assistance which we have received from France seems to make it good yet the Story of 88. acquaints us that the States in those times with 35 Men of War Blocked up Dunkirk and the Duke of Parma's Navy in it to the great Service of England but it is certain that all Nations will increase or decline more or less according as their Interest is pursued and their Government suited to it which happily is the Cause why none can be said to have out-done the States of Holland their low beginnings considered in increase in Trade and Riches but if Augmentation in Territories and Power be a Crime it is one that France is more guilty of than the United Netherlands and ought therefore to be looked upon with a more jealous Eye for the natural advantages that we have of the Dutch in the Situation of our Country and the greatness of it in the goodness and number of our Havens and Ports to breed Seamen and harbour Ships are such as appears to me to render it impossible for them ever to become our Superiors at Sea as is suggested by the Letter Page 11. As to the second Assertion or Head I must in that crave leave to dissent without granting the question which is begged that Holland whilst in Liberty might be under a likelihood of agreeing with France for the Conquest of England the thing seeming to me to be morally impossible First From their want of People especially fit for War their Dominions being small and furnished much with Strangers and altogether with Traders Circumstances which no Country must be under that designs Foreign Conquests or Invasions Secondly From the Nature of their Government in its being no more than an Union of several Absolute Sovereignties for common Defence and Preservation which is a Quality not fit for Acquisitions in that the Difficulty in satisfying every concern upon the good Success of their Arms and the many occasions that would arise from thence of Differences amongst them renders it impracticable Thirdly From the Impossibility of the French and their Agreement upon the Division of England for that it is not to be imagined but each of them would be jealous of the others Increase in Territories and Power and that the States would have no more cause to presume upon their over-witting the French in getting to themselves the most considerable places in it for Trade as is supposed by the Letter Page 12. than the French in over-reaching them who have always been wise enough in Treaties For that an increase in the French Monarchy would be more dangerous to the States than the like in the States would be to them who are already the others overmatch and it cannot with reason but be supposed that in the Division of England the French would on the one hand have an Eye at supplying themselves with that they only want for making them uncontrolable in the World good Havens and Ports and also on the other hand that the Dutch would never yield unto that that would destroy them But if England had reason to be jealous of France and Hollands Conjunction in order to the Conquest of it as the Letter suggests I fear with the same reason France will be jealous of England's impatronizing Holland as being as well unwilling to have the Dominion of the Seas so much undivided in the hands of any one Lord as all the rest of Europe cannot check it as we are to have the Dominion of the Land in the like kind under any other Lord or Prince To the Third Assertion I have not any thing to object in opposition nothing being more ordinary in the World than gross mistakes in the Interest of Countries proceeding often from Passion Revenge and disordered Affections yet this may be said in the Case that the States were such great Masters in the knowledge of their Civil Interests that none might have been Safelier trusted upon that account than they To the Fourth Head or Assertion I have only this to answer That as it is natural for all Rational Creatures of two Evils to choose the least so supposing that the States being reduced to a necessity of parting with their own Government will have the Election of their new Lords in their own Power and taking it for granted that they are Men of Conscience and Religion I do fully agree with the Author of the Letter in his opinion that they will in such Case choose rather the English than the Severe Government of the French unless the consideration in their partial opinion of who is best able to protect their Country do not prevail with them to trust the French King in point of Religion but I very much question whether it is not groundless to suppose that any Nation being attacked by two great Monarchs will have the choice of their own Masters left to themselves by a mutual Agreement betwixt those Monarchs without which it cannot be But I highly esteem the Author of the Letter for the true Sense he expresseth to have of the French Government from which the Lord in Mercy deliver all other Countries The Fifth Assertion is a Supposition that the Dutch will have it in their choice to trust the French or not and in such Case I am of opinion with the Letter that they will never do it Spain Lorrain and the Protestants of France being a sufficient warning to them but as Affairs now stand I very much fear they will not have the Election of it in their own hands The Sixth Assertion though as most weighty deserveth most Consideration yet for the first part of it Whether England admitting the Dutch to a Coalition would be of more advantage to them than any Terms they can expect from the French. I will not dispute but am much of belief that the French Councils considering that they want nothing to facilitate their universal design more than an Interest in the Northern Seas where they might Harbour and Form a Navy nourish and breed Seamen and likewise considering that the Maritime Towns of Holland Zealand and Friezland would signifie nothing without Trade but in danger of being swallowed up by the Sea for want of Ability to maintain the Banks against it nor Trade signifie any thing without Liberty they would soon find it necessary as to their Interest to wave the French Principles for Arbitrary Government and to leave the Dutch in a great measure of Freedom relying only upon Citadels for keeping them dependent upon them and forcing them upon occasion to be useful to them as judging that the best way to serve themselves of them lest otherwise by Severity they should provoke the dispersing the Inhabitants to Emden Bremen Hambourg Lubeck and Dantzick c. the four first being Imperial Free Cities and the latter the same under Poland for Arbitrary Government that must be maintained by the Sword and the idle Callings and rude manners of Souldiers which are
and deny to the Dutch the like Power by theirs as if they had a right to deal as they please towards other Nations and yet none to do towards them by way of Retaliation any more than they shall think fit to give them leave to do an overweening opinion of their own Greatness which all Princes and States ought to be Jealous of as not knowing where their Ambition will end And besides these things thus instanced in we have great cause to take notice that as the effect of the implacable Hatred of the French to our Nation they cannot forbear in their Writings to express their Inveterate Malice against us as that Book called Le Politique de France writ in the year 1669. and Dedicated to the French King is a pregnant Testimony where no better Epithets are allowed us than being without Friends without Faith without Religion without Honesty without any Justice of defying or provoking Natures light or unconstant to the highest degree Cruel Impatient Gluttons Proud Audacious and Covetous proper for ready Execution and Assaults but uncapable of managing a War with judgment With other such-like opprobrious and reproachful Expressions besides a Method propounded to be observed in order to the Conquest of England Page 158 159 160 161. enough to raise a lawful Indignation in all true English-men against such Insolent Slanderers who by their Impudence endeavour to impose their own Characters upon us contrary to the known experience of the rest of the World. And now Sir I have no more to add than all Circumstances considered my Agreement with the Pamphlet in this Principle that while France is so Great as at present it can in no kind be for the Safety of England to subvert Holland and Zealand c. which are properly called their Out-guards or Works against all Invasions and cannot be demolished or in the hands of the French without laying England Naked or at least the more open to that Nation and that nothing is more demonstrable than that since the United Provinces cannot signifie much without Freedom they will under their own Government be of most use to all Christendom save France who only wants them as a Qualification for threatning instead of courting their Neighbours in maintaining the general Ballance of Europe even as it was great Wisdom in the long Parliament for the wickedest of men may have Worldly Prudence to joyn with Holland in the preserving of Denmark as necessary for the Ballancing of Sweden when Cromwel in his time in revenge of manifest Affronts and hatred had designed the ruine of the Dane And thus Sir having in Obedience to your Commands given you freely my sense of the Pamphlet and Letter without varying from the matter in either as it is in them respectively stated I hope you will pardon any thing wherein I may differ with you in Judgment or Opinion for I have this for my Buckler that what I have writ is Truth and that I aim at nothing in it but the true Interest of the King and Kingdom of England and Protestant Religion denying that any can have more Cordial Affection for them than my self who am c. April 17. Anno 1669. According to the Printed Copy IN Obedience to an Order of Council of the 16th present requiring my opinion what is fit to be done for relief of Sir Francis Toppe and Company I do humbly certifie that I have perused their Case and find that they complain of great Losses and Damages sustained in the Year 1644. whilst they lived in St. Malo from the French by seizing their Goods in a time of Peace in the very Harbours of France whither they had brought those Goods in a way of Trading and where by several Treaties then in force and by the very Law of Nations which gives a Security to the Persons and Estates of all who reside Peaceably within the Dominions of any Prince or State they ought to have been Safe and Free from all Arrests the Owners not having done any thing whereby to Forfeit their Interest in them which Course if suffered must needs be the Destruction of all Trade and Commerce between the two Kingdoms as it is also very Dishonourable and Injurious to his Majesty that the Publick Faith should be broken to his Subjects who Trade under his Protection by vertue of the Treaties made between the two Crowns and it is much to be feared that the Proceedings in France may become very prejudicial in this kind to the whole Trading of the English Nation in that Kingdom if nothing be done to stop this growing mischief In regard this is not the single Case where this course hath been put in practice the like having been done several times to English Merchants at Rouen who are not yet free of the trouble for a Capture at Sea whether real or pretended to have been made in 1616. by an English Privateer of a French Ship belonging to one Delauziay valued but at six thousand Livers And whilst I had the Honour to serve his Majesty as his Ambassador in France two English Ships coming into Harbour at Marseille when they had Landed their Goods and paid all Duties were seized upon Ships and Goods and notwithstanding all my Solicitations would not be discharged But some Months after the War breaking out were given to the East-India Company there they pretending some Ships of theirs to have been formerly taken by the English And now as I hear at St. John de Liez the same Vsage is threatned if not already begun to our Merchants there for the Reparation of the Widow de Lazin for some Goods of her late Husbands taken from her by the Parliament in 1643. So as all this makes me fearful it may come to be a constant Custom if not prevented I do therefore offer it as my humble Opinion that all care should be taken for the prevention of it And for this particular Case of Sir Francis Toppe's and Company that in the first place a fair Application may be made to the French King as well by his Ambassador here as by his Majesties Ambassador at Paris for the just Satisfaction of the Petitioners which may be hoped will prove effectual and should it not it will then be time for his Majesty to consider what is further to be done for the Vindication of his own Honour and the Protection of his Subjects HOLLIS THE WORLDS MISTAKE IN Oliver Cromwel OR A Short Political Discourse SHEWING That CROMWELL's Mal-administration during his Four Years and Nine Months pretended Protectorship laid the Foundation of our present Condition in the Decay of TRADE LONDON Printed in the Year 1689. THE WORLDS MISTAKE IN Oliver Cromwell c. OF all the Sins that the Children of Men are guilty of there is none that our corrupt Natures are more inclinable unto than that of Idolatry a Sin that may be towards Men so well as other Creatures and things For as that which a Man unmeasurably relies and sets his