Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
england_n french_a king_n prince_n 8,899 5 6.0355 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A67435 The controversial letters, or, The grand controversie concerning the pretended temporal authority of popes over the whole earth, and the true sovereign of kings within their own respective kingdoms : between two English gentlemen, the one of the Church of England, the other of the Church of Rome ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688. 1674 (1674) Wing W631; ESTC R219375 334,631 426

There are 2 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

election_n at_o least_o till_o his_o brother_n consent_v as_o he_o soon_o do_v the_o same_o title_n which_o k._n stephen_n and_o after_o he_o k._n john_n have_v to_o the_o crown_n i_o shall_v think_v their_o example_n a_o very_a good_a reason_n that_o the_o proceed_n of_o those_o time_n be_v not_o to_o be_v draw_v into_o consequence_n for_o if_o they_o may_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n perhaps_o be_v at_o least_o have_v be_v elective_a which_o i_o suppose_v no_o englishman_n will_v admit_v if_o they_o may_v not_o i_o know_v not_o to_o what_o purpose_n they_o be_v allege_v for_o these_o reason_n i_o be_o persuade_v nothing_o can_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o first_o norman_n prince_n to_o justify_v the_o resignation_n of_o king_n john_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v bind_v to_o our_o time_n that_o it_o never_o have_v any_o validity_n at_o all_o but_o not_o to_o leave_v the_o matter_n disputable_a betwixt_o my_o no_o and_o the_o yea_o of_o who_o will_v maintain_v the_o contrary_a i_o will_v fair_o put_v it_o to_o judgement_n and_o say_v whatever_o be_v do_v and_o by_o whatever_o right_n about_o the_o time_n of_o the_o conquest_n that_o k._n john_n in_o particular_a can_v not_o valid_o do_v what_o he_o do_v and_o that_o this_o have_v already_o be_v decide_v and_o in_o such_o manner_n that_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o firm_o settle_v in_o the_o world_n which_o may_v not_o admit_v of_o question_n as_o well_o as_o this_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o ed._n iii_o the_o pope_n demand_v the_o long_a unpaid_a one_o thousand_o mark_n grant_v by_o k._n john_n and_o threaten_v by_o legal_a process_n to_o recover_v this_o rent_n a_o parliament_n be_v call_v chief_o for_o this_o business_n and_o it_o be_v unanimous_o resolve_v 3._o rot._n parl._n 40_o ed._n 3._o that_o neither_o k._n john_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v bring_v himself_o his_o kingdom_n or_o people_n into_o such_o subjection_n without_o their_o consent_n and_o against_o his_o coronation_n oath_n and_o that_o in_o case_n the_o pope_n shall_v by_o process_n or_o otherwise_o attempt_v to_o constrain_v the_o king_n or_o his_o subject_n to_o perform_v the_o premise_n they_o will_v become_v party_n and_o resist_v he_o with_o all_o their_o power_n this_o be_v plain_a and_o peremptory_a and_o direct_o to_o the_o point_n i_o can_v but_o muse_v to_o observe_v they_o speak_v doubt_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n soul_n supplication_n of_o soul_n and_o the_o more_o because_o sr._n tho._n more_o very_o positive_o deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v in_o his_o or_o any_o time_n produce_v such_o a_o evidence_n when_o i_o consider_v he_o be_v a_o learned_a man_n and_o no_o enemy_n to_o the_o pope_n have_v great_a mean_n of_o be_v well_o acquaint_v with_o record_n and_o passage_n of_o former_a time_n unknown_a to_o other_o and_o speak_v as_o if_o he_o have_v good_a ground_n for_o what_o he_o say_v i_o hardly_o know_v what_o to_o think_v of_o it_o i_o wish_v he_o have_v inform_v we_o what_o his_o ground_n be_v peradventure_o there_o be_v more_o to_o be_v say_v than_o we_o be_v aware_a of_o but_o since_o he_o have_v not_o and_o the_o parliament_n do_v not_o direct_o deny_v the_o fact_n i_o for_o my_o part_n must_v be_v content_v to_o take_v thing_n at_o the_o worst_a and_o not_o deny_v what_o i_o can_v disprove_v i_o have_v this_o for_o my_o comfort_n that_o if_o the_o fact_n be_v true_a it_o be_v in_o sr._n tho._n more_o be_v word_n right_o naught_o worth_a and_o the_o authority_n of_o parliament_n to_o bear_v i_o out_o by_o the_o way_n our_o author_n in_o allege_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n at_o that_o time_n the_o only_a representative_a of_o the_o kingdom_n speak_v against_o a_o solemn_a declaration_n of_o parliament_n and_o this_o undeniable_a proof_n may_v be_v join_v to_o what_o i_o produce_v before_o to_o make_v good_a my_o denial_n of_o their_o consent_n however_o the_o question_n be_v positive_o decide_v and_o by_o a_o authority_n irrefragable_a to_o englishman_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v suspect_v of_o partiality_n in_o our_o own_o case_n let_v we_o put_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o foreigner_n when_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o this_o king_n and_o the_o baron_n become_v irreconcilable_a they_o seek_v protection_n from_o france_n the_o pope_n send_v a_o legate_n to_o dissuade_v the_o french_a king_n and_o his_o son_n from_o meddle_v with_o a_o kingdom_n the_o dominion_n whereof_o belong_v now_o to_o the_o church_n the_o word_n be_v hardly_o out_o of_o the_o legate_n mouth_n when_o the_o king_n of_o france_n reply_v sudden_o 1216._o m._n paris_n add_v a_o 1216._o that_o england_n never_o have_v be_v nor_o then_o be_v nor_o ever_o shall_v be_v the_o patrimony_n of_o peter_n and_o this_o beside_o what_o he_o else_o allege_v because_o no_o king_n can_v give_v away_o his_o kingdom_n without_o consent_n of_o his_o baron_n a_o error_n which_o if_o the_o pope_n will_v maintain_v he_o will_v give_v a_o most_o pernicious_a example_n to_o all_o kingdom_n the_o nobility_n present_a with_o great_a heat_n justify_v this_o speech_n of_o their_o king_n and_o declare_v they_o will_v stand_v for_o that_o point_n to_o death_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o king_n to_o transfer_v his_o kingdom_n or_o make_v it_o tributary_n at_o pleasure_n you_o see_v i_o speak_v not_o altogether_o out_o of_o my_o own_o head_n when_o i_o refuse_v to_o yield_v a_o arbitrary_a right_n of_o dispose_v kingdom_n even_o to_o conqueror_n and_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o want_v who_o will_v take_v my_o part_n but_o to_o let_v that_o pass_v it_o can_v be_v attribute_v to_o the_o partiality_n of_o our_o either_o country_n or_o time_n that_o we_o hold_v this_o deed_n of_o k._n john_n null_a when_o it_o be_v condemn_v for_o such_o by_o those_o who_o be_v contemporary_n to_o it_o and_o as_o much_o abroad_o as_o at_o home_n who_o desire_v more_o security_n be_v in_o my_o opinion_n a_o very_a scrupulous_a man_n notwithstanding_o let_v we_o put_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o very_a contriver_n of_o the_o deed._n i_o be_o much_o mistake_v if_o themselves_o have_v not_o the_o same_o sentiment_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n if_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v well_o enough_o that_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o validity_n of_o the_o deed_n why_o do_v they_o insert_v that_o clause_n communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la baronum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la a_o thing_n of_o this_o consequence_n undoubted_o be_v not_o careless_o huddle_v up_o great_a deliberation_n be_v without_o question_n use_v and_o they_o will_v never_o have_v put_v in_o what_o they_o themselves_o and_o every_o body_n else_o know_v be_v false_a but_o that_o they_o be_v sensible_a all_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n without_o it_o so_o that_o in_o the_o hard_a choice_n of_o frame_v a_o draught_n either_o without_o truth_n or_o without_o validity_n they_o have_v a_o eye_n to_o the_o latter_a and_o let_v the_o first_o shift_n as_o it_o can_v the_o truth_n be_v they_o have_v reason_n it_o be_v obvious_a enough_o that_o if_o they_o can_v carry_v thing_n out_o at_o present_a the_o charter_n itself_o as_o all_o record_n be_v will_v be_v a_o strong_a presumption_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o what_o it_o contain_v to_o posterity_n but_o since_o it_o be_v as_o evident_a as_o that_o there_o be_v a_o charter_n that_o this_o clause_n be_v untrue_a it_o be_v likewise_o evident_a that_o those_o who_o put_v it_o in_o think_v it_o necessary_a wherefore_o even_o in_o their_o judgement_n the_o grant_n be_v invalid_a as_o want_v what_o themselves_o think_v absolute_o requisite_a you_o now_o perceive_v of_o what_o importance_n this_o point_n be_v of_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o baron_n of_o which_o i_o forbear_v to_o speak_v while_o i_o be_v examine_v whether_o they_o consent_v or_o no._n neither_o do_v i_o mean_v to_o dilate_v upon_o it_o now_o it_o be_v enough_o to_o observe_v that_o the_o want_n of_o it_o absolute_o invalidate_n the_o grant_v and_o this_o in_o the_o judgement_n not_o only_o of_o the_o framer_n and_o of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n of_o france_n but_o of_o parliament_n for_o you_o see_v they_o positive_o declare_v that_o neither_o k._n john_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v bring_v the_o kingdom_n into_o subjection_n without_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n who_o at_o that_o time_n have_v none_o but_o the_o baron_n to_o consent_v for_o they_o so_o that_o not_o to_o acquiesce_v in_o this_o point_n be_v to_o refuse_v the_o high_a authority_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o who_o do_v so_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o live_v in_o the_o nation_n but_o shall_v i_o venture_v to_o join_v our_o author_n himself_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o this_o good_a company_n and_o
especial_o since_o many_o doctor_n think_v so_o as_o well_o as_o he_o for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n say_v he_o in_o tortus_fw-la to_o bring_v example_n of_o king_n say_v he_o of_o pope_n say_v they_o and_o another_o to_o prove_v their_o power_n and_o authority_n second_o they_o answer_v that_o if_o it_o be_v a_o good_a proof_n that_o a_o thing_n may_v lawful_o be_v do_v which_o have_v be_v do_v before_o the_o wicked_a thing_n in_o the_o world_n may_v be_v prove_v lawful_a people_n may_v lawful_o rebel_n public_n and_o private_a faith_n may_v be_v break_v commonwealth_n may_v be_v overturn_v etc._n etc._n for_o all_o these_o thing_n have_v be_v do_v and_o without_o more_o ado_n pope_n may_v be_v depose_v by_o emperor_n as_o well_o as_o they_o by_o pope_n for_o that_o have_v be_v do_v too_o last_o and_o with_o a_o little_a more_o smartness_n they_o say_v this_o way_n of_o proof_n plain_o beg_v the_o question_n and_o assume_v the_o very_a point_n in_o dispute_n bellarmin_n affirm_v and_o his_o adversary_n deny_v the_o pope_n may_v just_o depose_v prince_n now_o to_o argue_v he_o have_v depose_v they_o therefore_o he_o just_o may_v assume_v that_o what_o he_o have_v do_v be_v just_a which_o be_v the_o very_a point_n they_o contest_v with_o he_o and_o therefore_o think_v it_o have_v be_v something_o short_a and_o altogether_o as_o much_o to_o purpose_n to_o have_v say_v it_o be_v just_a because_o it_o be_v iust_o every_n body_n know_v pope_n have_v both_o challenge_v and_o use_v a_o depose_v power_n but_o every_o body_n be_v not_o satisfy_v that_o this_o power_n be_v just_o due_a to_o he_o bellarmin_n undertake_v to_o prove_v it_o be_v and_o bring_v for_o a_o argument_n that_o he_o have_v use_v it_o which_o no_o body_n deny_v and_o will_v have_v that_o conclude_v that_o therefore_o he_o just_o may_v which_o if_o his_o adversary_n have_v think_v a_o good_a consequence_n they_o have_v not_o put_v he_o to_o the_o trouble_n of_o make_v it_o for_o they_o know_v and_o acknowledge_v the_o antecedent_n enough_o before_o but_o they_o think_v the_o pope_n do_v amiss_o who_o do_v so_o and_o if_o bare_o say_v that_o they_o do_v the_o thing_n be_v prove_v they_o have_v right_a to_o do_v it_o they_o confess_v they_o be_v in_o the_o wrong_n but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o bellarmin_n be_v so_o and_o shall_v have_v consider_v that_o bare_o to_o say_v his_o tenet_n over_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o proof_n which_o take_v with_o none_o but_o very_o good_a nature_a people_n and_o as_o far_o as_o i_o see_v his_o adversary_n be_v a_o little_a more_o stubborn_a i_o be_o so_o weary_a with_o long_o write_v that_o i_o must_v entreat_v your_o permission_n to_o refer_v what_o remain_v to_o another_o opportunity_n i_o will_v hope_v i_o have_v say_v enough_o to_o quiet_v your_o suspicion_n and_o be_o sure_a i_o have_v say_v so_o much_o that_o i_o need_v some_o quiet_n myself_o and_o must_v take_v leave_n after_o so_o long_a a_o journey_n to_o rest_v a_o while_n your_o etc._n etc._n the_o nine_o and_o ten_o of_o the_o controversial_a letter_n or_o grand_a controversy_n concern_v the_o pretend_a temporal_a authority_n of_o pope_n over_o the_o whole_a earth_n and_o the_o true_a sovereign_n of_o king_n within_o their_o own_o respective_a kingdom_n between_o two_o english_a gentleman_n the_o one_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o other_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n london_n print_v for_o henry_n brome_n and_o benjamin_n take_v at_o the_o gun_n &_o at_o the_o ship_n in_o st._n paul_n churchyard_n 1674._o friend_z i_o expect_v that_o which_o you_o say_v remain_v with_o much_o impatience_n and_o it_o be_v only_a to_o tell_v you_o so_o that_o i_o now_o write_v for_o i_o do_v not_o intend_v to_o give_v you_o my_o thought_n of_o your_o last_o till_o i_o receive_v your_o next_o only_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o it_o wamble_v in_o my_o stomach_n i_o know_v not_o how_o and_o work_v not_o kind_o but_o because_o your_o next_o possible_o may_v full_o settle_v i_o i_o will_v not_o yet_o complain_v but_o methinks_v this_o next_o opportunity_n of_o you_o be_v long_o a_o come_n have_v you_o be_v sick_a or_o divert_v with_o business_n of_o great_a consequence_n than_o clear_v yourself_o and_o your_o church_n from_o a_o aspersion_n of_o which_o i_o take_v no_o joy_n to_o tell_v you_o the_o suspicion_n be_v more_o pregnant_a than_o i_o wish_v they_o be_v for_o it_o be_v undeniable_a that_o tenet_n inconsistent_a with_o government_n be_v maintain_v among_o you_o you_o say_v they_o belong_v not_o to_o religion_n and_o that_o indeed_o be_v something_o but_o not_o enough_o this_o may_v serve_v in_o some_o measure_n to_o justify_v your_o religion_n but_o nothing_o at_o all_o to_o clear_v yourselves_o for_o what_o matter_n be_v it_o whether_o your_o religion_n be_v innocent_a if_o all_o that_o profess_v it_o be_v guilty_a though_o upon_o another_o account_n if_o you_o think_v these_o tenet_n true_a you_o will_v be_v apt_a to_o practice_v they_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o although_o they_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o religion_n religion_n indeed_o be_v the_o strong_a principle_n of_o action_n but_o not_o the_o only_a one_o it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o religion_n that_o two_o and_o three_o make_v five_o but_o yet_o if_o you_o do_v think_v to_o pay_v a_o debt_n of_o five_o pound_n with_o twice_o forty_o shilling_n no_o body_n will_v deal_v with_o you_o and_o if_o all_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n adhere_v to_o these_o doctrine_n whether_o this_o adhesion_n of_o they_o proceed_v from_o religion_n or_o any_o other_o motion_n the_o man_n will_v be_v unsafe_a and_o irreconcilable_a to_o the_o security_n of_o their_o country_n let_v the_o religion_n be_v what_o it_o will_n but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o who_o think_v they_o false_a it_o be_v convenient_a both_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o their_o prince_n and_o fellow_n subject_n and_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o thinker_n people_n shall_v know_v who_o those_o any_o be_v we_o can_v know_v your_o thought_n unless_o you_o acquaint_v we_o with_o they_o and_o because_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o believe_v that_o some_o do_v hold_v they_o and_o no_o reason_n to_o believe_v of_o any_o particular_a man_n but_o he_o be_v of_o the_o number_n till_o he_o disclaim_v they_o what_o can_v we_o do_v but_o involve_v you_o all_o guilty_a and_o innocent_a if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o in_o the_o same_o condemnation_n of_o diffidence_n you_o tell_v i_o the_o french_a plain_o and_o open_o condemn_v they_o the_o honest_a man_n they_o and_o the_o more_o shame_n for_o some_o body_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v more_o honesty_n find_v in_o france_n then_o england_n you_o shall_v do_v as_o they_o do_v though_o it_o be_v but_o to_o be_v in_o the_o mode_n in_o all_o their_o airy_a toy_n their_o feather_n their_o peruke_n their_o pantaloon_n you_o can_v follow_v they_o fast_o enough_o but_o when_o they_o play_v the_o man_n and_o set_v you_o example_n of_o prais-worthy_a action_n there_o you_o be_v content_a to_o be_v out_o of_o fashion_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o honour_n to_o be_v as_o light_a as_o they_o and_o a_o shame_n to_o be_v as_o wise_a but_o pray_v what_o security_n be_v it_o to_o england_n that_o they_o be_v good_a subject_n in_o france_n if_o they_o be_v knave_n all_o over_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n and_o we_o all_o honest_a at_o home_n it_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n better_o for_o we_o than_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v honest_a abroad_o and_o we_o knave_n at_o home_n i_o perceive_v indeed_o by_o what_o they_o do_v that_o you_o tell_v i_o true_a when_o you_o say_v these_o tenet_n be_v no_o point_n of_o your_o faith_n but_o then_o methinks_v you_o shall_v have_v the_o less_o difficulty_n to_o disclaim_v they_o unless_o perhaps_o you_o think_v they_o true_a which_o if_o you_o do_v either_o make_v they_o out_o to_o be_v consistent_a with_o government_n or_o you_o will_v not_o be_v consistent_a yourself_o i_o tell_v you_o plain_o i_o shall_v think_v ill_a of_o you_o if_o you_o think_v well_o of_o these_o doctrine_n unless_o you_o can_v show_v they_o innocent_a and_o safe_a which_o as_o far_o as_o i_o perceive_v you_o do_v not_o go_v about_o to_o do_v and_o when_o you_o offer_v at_o it_o may_v i_o believe_v with_o as_o much_o hope_n of_o success_n offer_v at_o the_o philosopher_n stone_n in_o other_o country_n you_o tell_v i_o they_o be_v more_o reserve_v and_o will_v not_o say_v you_o can_v not_o but_o you_o shall_v not_o and_o i_o believe_v you_o have_v live_v in_o those_o other_o country_n and_o suck_v their_o polity_n with_o their_o air._n but_o for_o my_o part_n i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o for_o the_o mode_n once_o in_o my_o life_n and_o will_v be_v of_o the_o french_a fashion_n in_o this_o