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A76744 The speech without doores defended without reason. Or, A vindication of the Parliaments honour: in a rejoynder to three pamphlets published in defence of M. Chaloners speech. Birkenhead, John, Sir, 1616-1679. 1646 (1646) Wing B2972; Thomason E365_5; ESTC R201245 8,181 11

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