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A26860 An answer to Mr. Dodwell and Dr. Sherlocke, confuting an universal humane church-supremacy aristocratical and monarchical, as church-tyranny and popery : and defending Dr. Isaac Barrow's treatise against it by Richard Baxter ; preparatory to a fuller treatise against such an universal soveraignty as contrary to reason, Christianity, the Protestant profession, and the Church of England, though the corrupters usurp that title. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1682 (1682) Wing B1184; ESTC R16768 131,071 189

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a_o true_a bishop_n by_o virtue_n of_o god_n law_n and_o if_o he_o have_v better_a qualification_n and_o election_n and_o ordination_n to_o be_v of_o sure_a authority_n than_o the_o diocesan_n it_o be_v his_o communion_n that_o we_o must_v prefer_v 4._o but_o indeed_o baptism_n and_o salvation_n be_v ordinary_o give_v before_o episcopal_a communion_n of_o any_o sort_n 5._o they_o that_o think_v the_o pope_n antichrist_n as_o most_o protestant_a bishop_n long_o do_v think_v it_o a_o duty_n to_o reject_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n where_o they_o live_v and_o denmark_n and_o other_o country_n set_v up_o other_o against_o they_o that_o be_v ordain_v by_o bugenhagius_n and_o other_o prsbyter_n 6._o parochial_a and_o diocesan_n bound_n be_v humane_a mutable_a institution_n 7._o if_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n be_v a_o schismatic_a the_o communion_n of_o a_o better_a near_o be_v better_a b._n ii_o 1._o all_o causleless_a separation_n from_o any_o christian_n or_o causleless_a disobedience_n to_o any_o pastor_n or_o neglect_v of_o any_o christian_a duty_n needful_a to_o the_o church_n peace_n and_o concord_n and_o every_o opinion_n and_o practice_n that_o be_v against_o they_o do_v make_v a_o man_n guilty_a of_o sinful_a division_n or_o schism_n in_o some_o degree_n and_o while_o every_o christian_n have_v many_o error_n and_o sin_n which_o all_o tend_v to_o some_o sinful_a breach_n as_o the_o least_o sore_o be_v solutio_fw-la continui_fw-la i_o can_v see_v but_o every_o man_n live_v have_v some_o guilt_n of_o schism_n nor_o that_o there_o be_v any_o church_n on_o earth_n that_o have_v not_o some_o such_o guilt_n but_o every_o degree_n of_o guilt_n denominate_v not_o the_o man_n or_o church_n a_o schismatic_a in_o a_o predominant_a or_o mortal_a sense_n and_o in_o charity_n i_o hope_v that_o even_o some_o of_o those_o heinous_a schismatic_n may_v be_v save_v that_o divide_v the_o church_n by_o their_o usurpation_n obtrusion_n sinful_a imposition_n and_o worldly_a domination_n yea_o some_o that_o in_o blind_a zeal_n put_v down_o parish-bishop_n and_o smite_v and_o silence_v the_o pastor_n and_o scatter_v the_o flock_n and_o if_o i_o must_v have_v communion_n with_o none_o that_o be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n with_o what_o church_n or_o bishop_n shall_v i_o join_v and_o if_o their_o sacrament_n be_v invalid_a what_o a_o case_n be_v italy_n spain_n france_n yea_o and_o england_n in_o must_v all_o be_v baptize_v again_o that_o they_o baptize_v 2._o but_o it_o be_v no_o schism_n but_o a_o duty_n for_o the_o people_n as_o far_o to_o forsake_v a_o sinful_a bishop_n much_o more_o a_o usurper_n as_o cyprian_a and_o that_o council_n advise_v they_o to_o do_v in_o the_o case_n of_o martial_a and_o basilides_n 3._o and_o after_o all_o this_o deceitful_a confusion_n note_v reader_n that_o he_o deny_v not_o our_o disobedience_n to_o be_v lawful_a in_o case_n of_o sinful_a condition_n impose_v and_o if_o we_o full_o prove_v not_o this_o to_o be_v our_o case_n let_v our_o accuser_n silence_n we_o and_o let_v our_o guilt_n be_v our_o shame_n 4._o and_o if_o people_n that_o have_v parish-bishop_n on_o the_o place_n where_o they_o live_v lawful_o call_v shall_v forsake_v they_o to_o obey_v a_o diocesan_n that_o be_v not_o on_o the_o place_n but_o perhaps_o forty_o or_o fifty_o or_o sixty_o mile_n off_o and_o never_o see_v they_o and_o be_v obtrude_v contrary_a to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n which_o nullify_v such_o and_o set_v himself_o to_o silence_v faithful_a pastor_n and_o persecute_v they_o and_o other_o godly_a christian_n for_o not_o sin_v heinous_o upon_o deliberate_a choice_n and_o covenant_n do_v not_o even_o this_o man_n conclude_v such_o to_o be_v schismatic_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o ordinary_a way_n and_o hope_n of_o salvation_n chap._n iii_o the_o consequence_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n foresay_a doctrine_n 1._o those_o that_o live_v under_o the_o popish_a bishop_n in_o italy_n spain_n france_n etc._n etc._n must_v live_v in_o their_o communion_n and_o under_o their_o command_n in_o all_o unsinful_a thing_n 2._o the_o protestant_a church_n that_o have_v not_o episcopal_a ordination_n be_v no_o true_a church_n and_o have_v no_o true_a minister_n or_o sacrament_n nor_o any_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n 3._o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v in_o the_o same_o unchurch_v damnable_a case_n that_o have_v bishop_n if_o they_o have_v not_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o such_o from_o the_o apostle_n canonical_o ordain_v 4._o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o denmark_n germany_n etc._n etc._n that_o have_v superintendent_o ordain_v at_o the_o reformation_n by_o bugenhagius_n pomeranus_n a_o presbyter_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n who_o succession_n be_v interrupt_v be_v in_o the_o same_o case_n 5._o it_o be_v schism_n and_o reject_v sacrament_n and_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n in_o all_o the_o people_n that_o continue_v in_o such_o protestant_a church_n and_o communicate_v with_o they_o 6._o it_o be_v better_a for_o the_o protestant_n in_o france_n to_o join_v with_o the_o papist_n than_o to_o live_v as_o they_o do_v without_o sacrament_n or_o church-communion_n 7._o yet_o by_o self_n contradiction_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o certain_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o all_o that_o derive_v their_o ordination_n from_o that_o church_n have_v no_o true_a bishop_n minister_n sacrament_n church_n nor_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a their_o true_a succession_n have_v be_v oft_o interrupt_v 1._o by_o such_o utter_o uncapable_a person_n as_o all_o history_n describe_v and_o even_o baronius_n call_v apostaticos_fw-la non_fw-la apostolicos_fw-la and_o such_o as_o divers_a general_n council_n judge_v heretic_n infidel_n simoniak_n etc._n etc._n e_o g._n eugenius_n 4._o who_o yet_o keep_v in_o 2._o by_o such_o who_o false_a ordination_n the_o canon_n express_o null_a 3._o by_o many_o schism_n two_o or_o three_o pope_n at_o once_o of_o who_o none_o can_v tell_v who_o have_v the_o right_a or_o whether_o any_o 4_o by_o the_o pope_n take_v on_o he_o to_o be_v christ_n universal_a vicar_n a_o office_n in_o specie_fw-la usurp_v which_o he_o make_v his_o episcopacy_n and_o as_o such_o give_v his_o order_n and_o all_o his_o presbyter_n have_v turn_v the_o true_a ministry_n into_o the_o false_a one_o of_o mass-priest_n and_o be_v no_o true_a minister_n can_v give_v no_o true_a sacrament_n by_o his_o rule_n 8._o yea_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o few_o if_o any_o church_n on_o earth_n can_v prove_v such_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n as_o he_o and_o the_o papist_n describe_v and_o most_o it_o be_v know_v have_v no_o such_o thing_n 9_o therefore_o if_o any_o have_v such_o a_o succession_n they_o can_v know_v it_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v prove_v and_o so_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o they_o be_v true_a church_n etc._n etc._n 10._o for_o the_o certainty_n of_o any_o true_a ministry_n church_n 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