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A50442 The antiquity of the royal line of Scotland farther cleared and defended, against the exceptions lately offer'd by Dr. Stillingfleet, in his vindication of the Bishop of St. Asaph by Sir George Mackenzie ... Mackenzie, George, Sir, 1636-1691. 1686 (1686) Wing M150; ESTC R11636 78,633 233

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England against Philip of France because of the ancient League made by their Predecessours Charlemain and Achaius Et usque nunc inconcusè servata Whereupon a League is renewed and confirmed by a Marriage the Tenour whereof is also extant in Fordon who also sets down the Tenour of the Pope's Bull prohibiting Alexander the Second our King to continue in his League with the King of France but to joyn with the King of England and as an effect of these Leagues Marianus whom the Irish call their Countrey-man albeit they also confess that he called our Countrey Scotia mentions that Anno 1070 the Scots and French wasted the English Which shews that this Alliance was much elder than either the 1425 or the 1380 as O Flahertie asserts And therefore that excellent Historian the Sieur Varillas relates that Charles the Fifth's Governour did advise him not to expect that the King of Scotland would enter into his Interests because the Alliance of that Nation with the French had lasted seven hundred Years without interruption from King to King before that time And by these we may see what a just Authour Ubbo Emmius is who rejects our History for many years after this Alliance and how judiciously he is produced by the Doctor But though the French could have been mistaken in all their Histories yet it is not imaginable that they would have bestowed great Privileges and Rewards upon us for Services done by the Irish and that the Families who came over at that time would not have own'd themselves to be descended from the Irish and not from us The Doctor to induce his Readers to believe that we are mistaken in the Genealogies of our own Kings pretends that the true Reason of the mistake of the Scotish Antiquities was that we finding that there was a Fergus in the Irish Genealogy called Fortis or Fortamalius who Reigned truly in 3775 and that in the descent of that Fergus there was a Conar and from him Rieda called by the Irish Carbre Rieda and by us Eoch and Ried and that there were several other Names in our Genealogies agreeing with the Genealogies of the Irish as Eochoid who was Father to Erk and is acknowledged by both to be Father to Fergus the Second the Doctor from all this concludes that the Original mistake lay in applying the Irish Genealogy to the Kings of Scotland and that we either imagined or would have others believe that all the Kings mentioned before Fergus the Son of Erk were Kings in Scotland and so went back by degrees till we made up a formal Story of forty Kings To this we Answer That it were a strange thing that our Story which we have so well prov'd should be overturned by the Doctor 's mere Conjecture especially seeing there is no Ground for such a Conjecture from any of these Steps on which the Doctor founds his Probability No Authour for ought we can see concurs with the Doctor in this Conjecture as to Fergus and O-Flahertie who pretends that he understands the differences betwixt the Descents and the Reasons thereof goes no higher than Conar the Second And speaking twice of Fergusius Fortis he makes not at all him to be the first Authour of our Race 2. If we had not had a sure Warrant of the Settlement and Genealogy of our Kings but had onely inserted the Kings of Ireland as ours from a vanity to be thought Ancient it is more probable by the same Reason that we would have improved it to a Story of twice forty Kings backwards And why should the Doctor make us to have sisted in Fergusius Fortis rather than in Fergusius Rogius or Fergusius Denti-niger both Kings in Ireland before Fergus the Second 3. That there could be no Ground for our sisting in Fergusius fortis is very clear for he reign'd Anno Mundi 3775 whereas our Fergus began to Reign Anno Mundi 3641 and so we had lost 134 years of our Antiquity and we should rather have fixed upon Hugonius Magnus who began to Reign 3619. and consequently agreed with the true time of our Settlement and there had been a more probable Conjecture from what is said in Ogygia in the Reign of Reactus immediate Predecessour to Hugonius in whose time it 's said from the Manuscript of O-Duveganus that one Ferc made a descent into Albania and conquered it and this Ferc might have been more probably said to have been Ferqhard and so to have made way for the Settlementof Fergus his Son as King here The next step of this Conjecture is that wherein O-Flahertie agrees with the Doctor and O-Flahertie asserts that all the Antiquaries of Scotland and Ireland agree that our Kings are descended from Carbre Ried the Son of Conar the Second who was King of Ireland Which step is also ill founded For 1. Though indeed we had a King called Conar as we had but one Conar yet here our Conar does not at all agree with the Irish Conar in time For our Conar began to Reign in the Year of Christ 149 whereas the Irish Conar the Second began to Reign Anno Christi 212. So that here we had lost 63 years again of our Antiquity And the Conjecture from the Agreements in Names is very silly we being Neighbours and speaking one Language and Kings even in remoter Kingdoms use to give their Children one another's Names 2. The other part of that Position that we are all agreed that our Kings are descended from Carbre Ried the Son of Conar and that our Countrey is called Dalrieda from him this is false for we own our being called Dalreudini from King Reuda or Reutha in which our Historians follow Beda's express words and Rieda and Reutha differ much in time Reutha having in Beda's opinion setled here before Iulius Caesar whereas Carbre Rieda behov'd to be born long after that time for his Father Conar Reigned onely 112 years after Christ. 3. We had no Carbres who could be Sons to Conar the Second for we had onely one Conar and so no Conar the Second and he was Posterior to both our Carbres for Carbredus Galdus Reign'd in Anno 76 and Carbredus the Second reign'd in Anno 113 and so long Prior to the Reign of Conar in 212. 4. As to the Pretence that Eochoid Ried or Etdach Ried is the same with Carbre Ried and that our Genealogy had an Eochoid Ried Posterior to Conar this is Groundless for both our Genealogies and the Irish have both Eochoids and Carbres as distinct Names nor do the Names appear the same any manner of way 5. Though it might be pretended that our Countrey was call'd Dalrieda from a Countrey in Ireland and not from Reutha yet non conslat that it was so called from a Countrey call'd Dalrieda and so from the Sirname of Ried but from Araidh King of Ireland seeing the same O-Flahertie gives an account of a King of Ulster called Fiachus Araidh from whom also a Countrey
word Saint from Fergus Pag. 97. lin ult Immediately after the word Verimund add these words many material things which are not in Boethius Pag. 98. lin 11. Put out these words which are not in Boethius Pag. 108. lin 25. After Alarick add the word is Pag. 116. lin ult When Kenneth is called the first Monarch of Scotland The meaning is he was the first Monarch of all Scotland having subdued the Picts and therefore he is so termed by Fordon Pag. 119. lin 17. For it is likely reade is it likely Pag. 121. For de Muro lapideo reade de Mora lapidea i. e. the stony Moor. Pag. 129. lin 16. For Ferchard's second Son reade Ferchard the Second his Son Pag. 167. lin For Tich reade Fich Pag. 175. lin 14. For created reade treated of The Reader is intreated to excuse these mistakes in the printing since they were occasion'd by the Authour 's great distance from the Press And if the Reader doubt of the old Alliance betwixt France and Scotland the Articles of the old League shall be printed for they have been lately found upon record in an old Register at Paris and bear date 791. agreeing exactly with what I have said page 109. of my First Book and with page 74. of this and this proves us to have been a Nation setled long before and of very considerable reputation abroad in the World for how is it imaginable that Charles the Great King of France and Emperour of the West should have thought it either his honour or interest to engage in so strict an alliance with a pack of Pilsering Vagabond Robbers confin'd to the then very insignificant County of Argyle as is most unjustly alledg'd against us THE END The Reverend Dr. Stillingfleet is pleased to reflect upon the Authour 's Ius Regium but that the Famous University of Oxford had other thoughts of that Book the Reader may understand by the following Letter which passed their Publick Seal and was sent as it 's here set down to the Authour Honorabili plurimum Domino Domino Georgio M'henzie Equiti Aurato Regio Regni Scotiae Advocato Illustrissime Clarissime Domine CUM Regio Principum Iure Majestate nihil sit sanctius utpote quod iis inviolatis Regni gloria subditorum pax unice conservantur facile possis credere quam acceptissimos Academiae quae Regi semper fida gloriatur perstitisse honores contuleris cum vestras Regiae causae vindicias nobis non tantum transmiseris sed in publicum simul iniquo hoc tempore vocaris patrocinium Si quae enim post probatam bellis civilibus fidem ignibusque traditos impios libellos de quibus originem vires sumserat perduellio ulterioris officii partes supererant eas omnes vestro explevimus beneficio qui causam principis una videmur defendisse quod Doctissimi laboris effeceris participes Qui ipsa fundamenta penitus convellens quibus inimica semper Regibus plebis improba innititur causa de ipsa seditione vel Bellicâ potiorem reportasti victoriam cum enim armis miles rebelles cogat in tempus tantum gladios recondere Tu invictissimae rationis viribus imperas ne iterum stringantur Languet quidem tantum quae debellatur non extinguitur seditio devictumque licet humilis abjecti vulgus imperii patiens videatur vel minimâ elucente spe res novas continuo molitur Adeo ut Regias partes verius sustentet qui suadet quam qui cogit parere rebusque Imperii honestius consulat qui inconcussae fidei divinam statuens originem Reverentiam Principum non metum incu●it Regibusque ex officio docet non re vel tempore turpiter inservire Hinc fit ut quamvis Scotorum virtuti plurimum debeatur quod rebelles bis prosligaverint Tibi plus sit referendum quod Buchanum Miltonum quorum licet de scriptis derivatum plurimas Regni partes venenum infecerit Tu tamen grassante diu malo tam felici tandem remedio subvenisti ut conscientiae Rationi legibusque Regni antiquissimis necesse est renuncient si qui in posterum sint qui in Deum Regemque una Rebelles audeant iterum movere arma Quod itaque nostra ex parte Unicum possumus inter libros aeternae memoriae sacros Vestros Academia reponet honores Autori exoptans quos ipsa nequit conferre soliusque possit Principis Munificentia Nimirum ut penitus fractis per te Fanaticorum viribus sentiat Rex quantum possit vel Unius subditi literata fides Ipse experiaris quantum mereatur Haec eo quo mittimus animo accipias inter affectûs indicia aestimes quo Te prosequitur Illustrissime Domine Nomini vestro addictissima Universitas Oxoniensis E Domo nostrae Convocationis V. Id. Iunii MDCLXXXIV Books printed for and sold by Joseph Hindmarsh DAvelas's History of the Civil Wars of France Poems by several Hands and on several Occasions collected by N. Tate Miscellany being a Collection of Poems by several Hands collected by Mrs. A. Behn The Works of Mr. Iohn Oldham together with his Remains A Discourse of Monarchy more particularly of the Imperial Crowns of England Scotland and Ireland with a close from the whole as it relates to the Succession of I. Duke of York Practical Rules of Christian Piety containing the sum of the whole duty of a true Disciple of Christ. History of Count Zozimus translated into English The Doctour's Physician or Dialogues concerning Health translated out of the Original French Butler's Ghost or Hudibras 4th Part with Reflexions on these Times Ienkinsius Redivivus or the Works of that Grave Learned truly Loyal and Courageous Judge Ienkins whilst a Prisoner in the Tower and Newgate by command of the Rebellious Long Parliament begun at Westminster November the 3d 1640. Wherein is plainly set forth the just Power and Prerogative of the King the Privilege of Parliament the Liberty of the Subject and what is Treason according to the Laws of the Land The Familiar Epistles of Collonel Henry Martin found in his Misses Cabinet A true Account of the Captivity of Thomas Phelps at Machaness in Barbary and of his strange Escape in company of Edmund Baxter and others as also of the burning two of the greatest Pirat Ships belonging to that Kingdom in the River of Mamora upon the 13th of Iune 1685. By Thomas Phelps The Perjur'd Phanatick or the Malitious Conspiracy of Sir Iohn Croke of Chilton Henry Larimore and other Fanaticks against the life of Robert Hawkins Clerk and late Minister of Chilton occasioned by his suit for Tythes An Historical Treatise of the Prerogatives of the Church of Rome and of her Bishops written in French by Mounsier Maimburg translated into English by A. Lovell Praef. pag. 5. Chap. 5. pag. 267. passim Praef. p. 3d. Praef. pag. 72. Pag. 2. * Dr. Stillingfl praef pag. 23. † Cap. 5. p. 285. C. 5. p. 285. * Bed L.