imply that there is no Subordination 't will follow that the Inferior Courts in England are not subordinate to the Courts of Westminster-Hall and I may add neither is the King's Bench of England subordinate to the House of Lords As to the question of their Jurisdiction occasioned as Mr. M's Margin has it by the Case of the Bishop of Derry I need say little here referring him to the Judgment of the Lords and to that exercice of the Judicial Power which I shall have an opportunity of shewing in the Reign of E. 1. But as to his supposed clear Argument against the subordination from the Lords doing nothing upon the Petition of the Prior of Lanthony who appeal'd to the Parliament of England from a refusal of the King's Bench here to meddle with a Judgment which had pass'd in the Parliament of Ireland 'T will admit of several Answers 1. This came not before the Lords by Writ of Error or by Appeal from the Lords of Ireland but was a complaint of the King's Bench here 2. This was after the Charter which I shall afterwards shew placing a judicial Power to some Purposes in their Parliaments But whether they exceeded that Authority 't was not for the King's Bench to judg but for that Power from whence their Charter was derived 3. This Petition seems either to have come too late or to have been waved for if it had fallen under consideration 't is probable that some Answer to it could have been endors'd as was usual in former times But that the ordinary Jurisdiction both of the Lords in Parliament and of the King's-Bench here is but an incident to the Superiority of the Crown of England will be much clearer than any thing Mr. M. has urged And whatever Mr. M. conceives the Annexation of Ireland to the Crown of England will sufficiently manifest the Subordination tho he supposing that this was done by the Irish Statute which annexes it as a Kingdom with others which declare it annex'd as a Land or Dominion of a lower Character conceives little more is effected by these Statutes than that Ireland shall not be aliened or separated from the King of England who cannot hereby dispose of it otherwise than in legal Succession along with England and that whoever is King of England is ipso facto King of Ireland But if these Statutes bating the name of Kingdom which the Parliament of England afterwards gave them are only declaratory of the antient Right of the Crown of England then I may well hold that there is not so much effected by these Statutes as he yields it being only the operation of Law And if by operation of Law a King of England tho not succeeding by a strict Right of Descent but by the Choice or Declaration of the States of this Realm is ipso facto King or Lord of Ireland I would gladly know how that Kingdom or Land which he owns to be thus inseparably annex'd to the Imperial Crown of England can be a compleat Kingdom And since he is pleas'd to ask whether multitudes of Acts of Parliament both of England and Ireland have not declared Ireland a compleat Kingdom and whether 't is not stiled in them all the Kingdom or Realm of Ireland I would entreat the favour of him to shew me one Act of Parliament of either Kingdom which says or all Circumstances consider'd implies that Ireland is a compleat Kingdom or that ever any Parliament of their own held it to be advanced to the Dignity of a Kingdom before 33 H. 8. tho as they acknowledg the Kings of England had Kingly Power there long before I must own that as the name of King was in H. 8's time thought requisite to charm the wild Irish into Obedience so in Queen Elizabeth's time Imperial Crown was thought to make a conquering Sound but this was never ascribed to it by any Parliament of Englandâ— nor that I can find even of Ireland before her Reign or since But the one Imperial Crown upon which Ireland has been and still is dependent is the Crown of England sor this the Statute of Ireland before that was made a Kingdom is express having these words Calling to our remembrance the great Divisions which in time past have been by reason of several Titles pretended to the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England whereunto this your Land of Ireland is appending and belonging So another in the same Year Forasmuch as this Land of Ireland is depending and belonging justly and rightfully to the Imperial Crown of England it enacts that the King his Heirs and Successors Kings of the Realm of England and Lords of this said Land of Ireland shall have and enjoy annexed and united to the Imperial Crown of England all Honours Dignities Pre-eminencies and Authorities c. belonging to the Church of Ireland If Mr. Molineux observes duly Ireland has all these Imperial Rights declared in the Irish Statute 33 H. 8. c 1. but I cannot find by what Rule he insers this from an Act of Parliament which is express that the King of England shall have the Name Stile Title and Honour of King of Ireland with all manner of Preheminencies c. as united and knit to the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England Indeed it shews that under the name of Lord the King had the same Authority but the name of King was thought likely to be more prevalent with the Irish Men and Inhabitants within that Realm The Statute 11 Jac. 1. declares him King of England Scotland France and Ireland by God's Goodness and Right of Descent under one Imperial Crown And the Statute 10 C. 1. calls this the Imperial Crown of England and Ireland And indeed Mr. Molineux would do well to shew that ever any of our Kings took any Coronation Oath for Ireland otherwise than as Kings of England And yet I know not what he may do when his hand 's in since he has the Art to transubstantiate their Recital of an Act of Parliament in England which declares that Popes had usurped an Authority in derogation of the Right of the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England recognizing no Superiour under God but only the King and being free from Subjection to any Man's Laws but only such as have been devised made and ordain'd within the Realm of England or to such other as by sufferance of the King and his Progenitors the People of the Realm of England had taken at their free Liberty by their own Consent to be used among them and have bound themselves by long Custom to the observance of the same To infer that 't is thus with Ireland because the enacting part of that Statute which has this Recital is promulged for a Law in Ireland is to suppose Ireland to be turned into England and that the Commissioners who are by virtue of that Act and the Great Seal to exercise that
ratification of the King's Majesty's Stile by the King with the assent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in that Parliament assembled and by the Authority of the same enacting that all and singular his Grace's Subjects and Resiants of or within this his Realm of England Ireland and elsewhere with other his Majesty's Dominions from thenceforth accept and take the King's Stile in manner and form following H. 8. by the Grace of God King of England France and Ireland Defender of the Faith and of the Church of England and also of Ireland in Earth the supream Head And 't is enacted that the said stile shall be from thenceforth by the Authority aforesaid united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of his Highness's Realm of England This related to all Ecclesiastical Power as well as Civil in Ireland as well as England In pursuance of this the Statute 1 Eliz. for the extinguishing all usurped and Foreign Power and Authority Spiritual and Temporal which had been used within this Realm or any other her Majesty's Dominions or Countries enacts That no Foreign Prince or Prelat shall enjoy any Power Jurisdiction Superiority Authority or Privilege Spiritual or Ecclesiastical within this Realm or within any other her Majesty's Dominions or Countries but that such Power c. shall be abolished out of this Realm and all other her Highness's Dominions And that all Power of visiting and correcting for Heresies Schism c. shall for ever by Authority of that Parliament be united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm Ecclesiastics were to swear that they would maintain all such Jurisdiction Privileges Preeminence and Authority as granted or belonging to the Queen's Highness her Heirs and Successors or united to the Imperial Crown of the Realm And the Queen is impowred to issue out Commissions for the executing that Act. This Statute bound Ireland by plain intention as that 34 and 35 H. 8. did in express words But Mr. M. will have it a mighty Argument that this was of no force in Ireland till received by a Parliament there because after it had bin repealed in England by one Act and another since the Revolution has declared such Commissions to be illegal yet the Chancellor and others in Ireland have held it to be still in force there But 1. He ought to have shewn that the Statute here repealing so much of the Statute of the Queen as plainly exprest an intention that no such Commission should be granted in Ireland as the Statute of the Queen did that Ireland should be subject to the same Ecclesiastical Authority and in the same manner that England was nor is it to any purpose for him to cite the Declarations in the late Statute of the illegality of such Commissions unless that Act had damn'd such Commissions not only as being contrary to the Act of Repeal but not to be warranted by the Statute of the Queen but then this would have condemned the Resolution which he cites of the Authority of such Commissions still in Ireland 2. Admit Mr. M. should prove that the Statute made in England taking away the Authority of such Ecclesiastical Commissions here as plainly intended to reach Ireland 't will afterwards appear that unless Mr. M. shew that this Act had been transmitted to Ireland under the Great Seal of England the supposition that such Commissions may still be legally executed in Ireland will not in the least derogate from the Authority of the Parliament of England 3 dly But how contrary his supposal of an independent Authority in the Parliament of Ireland is not only to the Laws of reasoning but the Authorities of all times from H. 2. downwards has already appeared in some measure and may farther by some Authorities out of many which will manifest that the Rights of the Crown of England to impose Laws upon Ireland by virtue of prior submissions and consent is so far from being departed from that 't is strengthned and confirmed by long exercice and submission to it Mr. M. considering the State of the Statute Laws of England under H. 2. King John and H. 3. agrees That by the Irish voluntary submission to and acceptance of the Laws of England we must repute them to have submitted themselves to these likewise till a regular Legislature was established among them in pursuance of that voluntary submission and voluntary acceptance Yet he soon forgets this Concession and would have it that the men of Ireland were not bound by new Laws but that the Grants of Liberties from Edward the Confessor's time down to H. 3. were only declaratory Laws and confirmations one of another and that thus Ireland came to be govern'd by one and the same common Law with England I must confess I could not but smile at his Marginal Note upon the proceedings of the Parliament at Oxford in the Reign of H. 2. by this Ireland made an absolute separate Kingdom And in the Body of his Book he says We shall observe that by this donation of the Kingdom of Ireland to King John Ireland was most eminently set apart again as a separate and distinct Kingdom by it self from the Kingdom of England and did so continue until the Kingdom of England descended and came unto King John But to help him to understand this matter I shall mind him of another passage in Hen. II's Reign As he placed his Son John in Ireland he to secure the Succession of the Imperial Crown of England to his eldest Son Henry caused him in a Parliament to be chosen and made King of England while Henry the Father was alive Now did the Father by this separate England from his own Jurisdiction No certainly and indeed in the Oath to the Son and the homage perform'd both at the Coronation and afterwards by the King of Scots there was a particular saving of the Allegiance and Homage due to the Father Thus both Hoveden and Bromton shew that 't was in relation to the constituting John King of Ireland as they call him they are express that they to whom the Lands of Ireland were distributed in that very Parliament which gave John his Office and Authority were sworn to the Father and the Son And Mr. M. might have observ'd that a Charter pass'd in that Parliament and cited by Sir John Davis grants to Hugh de Lacy large Territories in the County of Methe to hold of H. 2. and his Heirs Whereas if Ireland had been given as Mr. M. will have it to John and that thereby 't was made an absolute Kingdom separate and wholly independent on England The Tenure must have been of John and his Heirs The Oath of Allegiance which in those days used to have no mention of Heirs was to H. 2. as King of England and went along with the Crown but the Tenure reserved was expresly to the Heirs of H. 2. which must relate to the legal Successors to
Subjection 14. Whether the Jews and other Nations subject to the Roman Empire had not much more plausible pretences for casting off the Roman Yoak than the Irish have for disowning the English Legislature 15. Whether our Victorious and Heroical Kings E. 3. and H. 5. thought it any diminution to the Prerogative of the Crown of England for their Parliaments to be joyn'd with them in giving Terms to those Parts of France which were brought under the Crown of England in Wars carried on at a National Expence 16. Whether notwithstanding his Concession that every King of England is ipso facto King of Ireland the contrary does not follow from his Notion of Prerogative of Irelands being a compleat Kingdom regâ—â—â—â—ed within it self and the Supposition that Acts of Parliament in England cannot bind Ireland till confirmed by Parliament there 17. Whether therefore according to his way of arguing the Subjects of Ireland who fought under King William before he was recognized by a Parliament in Ireland then served their Lawful and Rightful King 18. Whether to dedicate to His present Majesty a Book of such consequences as the direct Answer to these Questions would manifest argues a due Opinion of His Majesty's Judgment and Penetration FINIS a Anciently there was but one House and sometimes one undivided Body sub dio Thus one of K. Edgar 's Charters An. 970. Non clam in angulo sed sub Divo palam evidentissimè scientibus totiâ—s regni mei Primatibus d Dr. Brady's Answer to Mr. Petty l. p. 1 2 â—o rescue these sacred things from groundless and designing iâ—â—eâ—pretations I follow his own Method and do affirm 1. Thaâ— the Commo s of England represented by Knights Citizens and Burgesses in parliament were not introduced not were one of the three Estates in Parliament before the 49th of H. 3. 2. That before that time the body of the Commons of England or Freemâ—n as now understood or as we nâ—w frequently call them collectively taken had not any share or votes iu making of Laws for the government of the Kingdom nor had any comâ—unication in Affairs of State unless they wâ—re represented by the Tex nts in Capite a Vid Jani Anglor faciem nov ed. An. 1680. b Vid. Dr. Brady 's Append to his Coâ—pleat History cited in f. c Dr. Brady's Introtuct f. 3â—6 Speâ—à ing of Seditious Pieces defign'd as he says to overturn the Government and publish'd on purpose to usher in Anarchy and Confusion leaving a Blank for Mr. Pâ—tyt's Name whom be sufficiently describes these and other such stuff says he did mightily contribute to the Sedition and Rebellious Practices of a Great Man who laid violent Hands upon himself to prevent the Hand â—nd Stroak of Justice And like to this Piece are Jâ—ni Anglor â—acies nova Jus Anglorum ab antiquo Reflections upon Antidptum Brit. c. All written and timed to promote Sedition and in expectation of Rebellion and the destruction of the Establish'd Government d Jus Anglorum ab antiq Votes Lunae 27 Junii 1698. Vid. Mat. Par. Addit f. 281. De foris facturâ regni per Johannem regni vacatione per ejusdem demissionem in manus Papae * Mr. Molineux his Book p. 3. I venture to expose my own weakness rather than be wanting at this time to my Country I might say indeed to mankind for 't is the Cause of the whole Race of Adam that I argue c. Pag. 3. Vid. Plin. Pan. Quà m nunc juvat provincias omnes in fidem nostram deditionemque venisse Postquam contigit Princeps terrarum c. Pag. 25. * 'T is only damage sustain'd that gives title to another man's goods * Mr. Molineux his complaint against the Parliament of England Vid. Dedication Pag. 3. P. 64 66. P. 68 99. P. 105. P. 107. Nay but one Throne the two Kingdoms P. 108. P. 111. Pag. 114. a P. 128. b P. 129 133 139. c P. 147. d P. 163. e P. 154. f P. 157. g P. 161. h P. 166. i P. 168. Vid. e Cont. sup p. 64 66. k P. 170. l Ibid. m P. 171. n Ibid. o P. 172. Pag. 3. The true Foundation and Nature of the Right of England over Ireland Vid. p. 3. P. 14. Pag. 6. of the first annexation of the Land of Ireland to the Crown of England Lambard's Archainomia f. 148. de Jure Appendiciis Coronae Regni Britanniae a Bibliâ—â—h Cot. sub effigie Julii B. 11. b Claudius D. 2. Na. c Guernsey 〈◊〉 I take it Circa 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Rot. Cart. 5. E. 2. m. 12. n. 25. 3 E. 3. m. 10. n. 23. Pro Priore Conventu Wigorn per inspeximus An. 964. regni sui 6. Rot Pat. 12. E. 2. m. 13. n. 42. Rot. Cart. 2 E. 3. m. 23. n. 78. An. 970. Cart. Antiq. in Turr. Loud B. n. 11. a Rot. Carâ— 5. E. 2. m. 12 n. 25. b Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 1â— n. 17. per Prior Convent sanctae Frischeswide Oxon. An. 1084. reâ—â—iâ— 25. a Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 32. n. 85. A. 979. b Rot. Cart. 36. E. 3. m. 7. n. 3. A. 964. c In Bib. Cot. An. 1001. d Monast 1. vol. f. 94. a. A. 983. a Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 32. n. 85. pars unica A. 987. b Hist Elyens in Bib. Cotton c Vid. Rot. Cart. 2. R. 2. m. 13. n. 5. Bib. Cot. sub effig Claudil c. 9. Hist Eccles Abind Cart. Antiq. B. n. 4. K. n. 22. d Cartae Antiquae in Turri Lond. D. n. 12. Coenob de Salebiâ— e Cart. An tiq Q. n. 2 An. 1081. * Bib. Cot. sub Effigie Claudii 9 Regist Abind dehund de Hormmere †P. 129. If our Church be free and absolute within it self our State must be so too Of the Superiority and Authority of the Church of England over the Church of Ireland * Parker 's Aâ—tiq Brit. Et quique Nobiles cum Clero * Petitioni â—orum Armuit †Fo. 23. Ann. 1151. Ibid. ð„ Ib. F. 23. Nihilominus Cant. Primatem in omnibus agnoscunt * Antiq. Brit. sup Inter decem script Gerv. Dorob Actus Pontif. Cant. F. 1633. Ann. 605. Nec non ScothoruÌ„ qui Hiberniam insulam Britanniae proximam incolunt pastoralem impendere sollicitudinem curabat Brompton F. 970 971. de An. 1071. * Not that the whole History need have been read in the Council but the chief Passages produced by them who had read it P. 8. An. 1172. P. 6 7 8. Of H. 2d 's landing in Ireland P. 144. The justification of H. 2d's Expedition Lambard's Archaionomia F. 138. De Regis Officio c. Vid. Leges St. Edw. Tit. Greve Ryley's Placita Parl. 29 E. 1. Vid. Inâ— Anglia sacra Giraldus Cambrensis de rebus a se gestis Pars 2. c. 14. Angl. sac sup pars 2. F. 485. speaking of King John Pater ipsius intrandi Hiberniam sibique
on the same reason may the rest of Adam's Children expect it But if this be taken with relation to the present Governments in the world then suppose this Gentleman hold a Commonwealth to be the freest state of mankind to be uniform he must believe that no Monarchies ought to continue longer than the people should think fit because according to his Maxim the People of a Monarchy have the same right to Liberty that the others maintain and directly to the present question no nation ought to have any dependence upon any other Nation And perhaps others will say neither ought they to have any protection 'T is certain that whether we consider the people of the same Nation or the relation which one Nation has to another their state or condition must depend upon Constitutions and Agreements express or tacit Indeed what Constitutions and Agreements are binding and for what time will fall under the consideration of Reason either of it self or aided and assisted by Revelation S. Paul having taught us That the Powers that are are ordained of God I should think that the common practice of the world which this Gentleman admits to be against his Notions is no small evidence of the right of Acquisitions made by one Nation upon or over another But if these could in right be carried no further than the damage sustained by the injured Nation the bounds of the Acquisitions would be very uncertain and desultory That no true Principle opposes the Power which England claims and exercises over Ireland might be shewn in a very narrow compass Yet when many glittering Arguments are made use of to support an unseasonable as well as groundless complaint it may be requisite to give direct Answers to those things which may seem most plausible and to lay such Foundations as may supersede the particular consideration of the rest to which end I shall shew 1. The nature of Mr. Molineux his Complaint 2. The true Foundation and Nature of that Right of which England is possessed in relation to Ireland and Mr. Molineux's Mistakes Omissions and wrong Comparisons and Inferences concerning it 3. That the Right which was at first acquired is so far from being departed from that 't is rather strengthened and confirmed and has been duly exercised as the good of England has required and in subordination to that and even in the greatest Instances now complained of 4. That his Politicks and seeming popular Notions are wrong and misapplied 1 st Mr. Molineux would insinuate into his Majesty's belief in his Dedication to him that some of late endeavour to violate those Rights and Liberties which the Irish or English there have enjoyed for above five hundred years And he plainly enough charges both Kings Lords and Commons of England and that acting Parliamentarily not only with this endeavour but with actual violations of that which to him seems the inherent Right of all mankind His Service to his Country and to all the Race of Adam he supposes to be call'd for by the present juncture of Affairs when the business of Ireland is under the consideration of both Houses of the English Parliament that is as his Margin explains it the Case of the Bishop of Derry in the House of Lords and the prohibiting the exportation of the Irish Woollen Manufacture in the House of Commons He complains That Acts of Parliament in England before the 10 th of H. 4. and 29 th of H. 6. had pretended to bind Ireland without any confirmation there tho they have not expresly claim'd this Right that there are modern Precedents of English Acts of Parliament pretending to bind Ireland but these are Innovations tho of his own shewing no more than was done before the 10 th of H 4. But he is sorry to reflect that since the late Revolution in these Kingdoms when the Subjects of England have more strenuously than ever asserted their own Rights and the Liberties of Parliaments it has pleased them to bear harder on their poor Neighbours than has ever yet been done in many Ages foregoing The first attempt which this Gentleman complains of since his Majesty's happy accession to the Throne of these Kingdoms is an Act made in great compassion for Relief of the Protestant Irish Clergy The next is one prohibiting all Trade and Commerce with France while England was engaged in an actual War of which Ireland was a miserable Seat Another is the Act for the better security and relief of their Majesties Protestant Subjects in Ireland wherein K. James's Irish Parliament at Dublin and all Acts and Attainders done by them are declared void And 't is further provided That no Protestant shall suffer any Prejudice in his Estate or Office by reason of his absence out of Ireland since December 25. 1685. And that there should be a remittal of the King's Quit-Rent from Decemb. 25. 1688. to the end of the War And the last is That for abrogating the Oath of Supremacy in Ireland and appointing other Oaths These are the Acts of Parliament by the suppos'd submission to which he will have it that the Rights of the People of Ireland have received the greatest weakening under his Majesty's Reign and they are made of all his Majesty's Subjects the most unfortunate These Acts are complained of as Violations of the Rights of a Kingdom compleat and absolute in it self without any subordination to England especially in relation to Parliaments That they are contrary to that amity which should be maintained between distinct Kingdoms or the Children of one common Parent which have distinct Rights and Inheritances absolutely within themselves and inconsistent with the Royalties and Preeminence of a separate and distinct Kingdom Against the common Laws of England which are in force both in England and Ireland by the original Compact Against the Statute Laws both of England and Ireland Against several Charters of the Liberties granted to Ireland Against the King's Prerogative Against the practice of all former Ages Against several Resolutions of the learned Judges of former times Destructive of Property Introductive of the greatest confusion and uncertainty imaginable And lastly inconvenient for England being likely to make the Lords and People of Ireland think they are not well used and may drive them into discontent And yet this Complaint must be thought very modest because if the Great Council of England shall resolve the contrary he declares he shall then believe himself to be in an Error and with the lowest submission ask pardon for his assurance I cannot in the least question but that august and wise Assembly will use that Method which he refers to for his Conviction yet since they are employed in Affairs of more immediate consequence than the asserting and clearing the grounds of that Authority which they have long been possessed of I shall think that I may
him by Hereditary Succession not that he was held to be King by a meer Right of Descent but as the Ritual of the Coronation of H. 1. and the Writ for Proclaiming the Peace of E. 1. in England and Authors of the time shew the Election of the States of England placed him in the Inheritance of the Crown therefore the States of England declare to the Subjects of Ireland that they were bound to take the like Oath of Allegiance as the English had done and this is required of them by the States here under the Great Seal of England nor is there colour to believe that there was any Summons to Ireland for any from thence to come to that Conâ—ention nor indeed was there time for such Summons and return before that meeting notwithstanding Mr. M's assertion of this Reign in particular that the Laws made in England and binding them were always enacted by their proper Representatives meaning Representatives chosen in Ireland the reason for which he there brings from supposed instances in the Reign of E. 3. seeming not to rely upon his Quotation from the White Book of the Exchequer in Dublin but the Page before which 9 E. 1. mentions Statutes made by the King at Lincoln and others at York with the assent of the Prelates Earls Barons and Commonalty of his Kingdom of Ireland Which if it implyed the presence of the Commonalty of Ireland would be an Argument that all their Rights were concluded by the Tenants in chief who had Lands in Ireland but were Members of the English Parliament by reason of their Interest here but in truth this shews no more than that at the request of those of Ireland the Parliament of England had enacted those Laws and the Record in their white Book is only a Record of the transmission from hence and proves that suitably to the practice both before and after that time they in Ireland had no Parliaments for enacting Laws but were forc'd to Petition to have them enacted here and what was enacted upon their Petition was truly with their Assent But then the Question will be whether in the Laws made in that King's Reign with intention to bind Ireland their Consent is generally expressed or implyed any otherwise than from the nature of their former submission to be govern'd by the English Laws But if our Acts of Parliament and Records concerning them are clear in any thing they certainly are in this that the Parliament of England then had and exercis'd an undoubted Right of binding Ireland without their immediate consent by any Representatives chosen there Mr. M. indeed tho' as I have before observ'd he admits that Ireland was bound by Acts of Parliament here till the end of the Reign of H. 3. for want of a regular legislature among themselves yet suitably to his usual inconsistencies upon the enquiry where and how the Statute Laws and Acts of Parliament made in England since the 9 th of H. 3. came to be of force in Ireland will have it that none of them made here without Representatives chosen in Ireland were binding there till receiv'd by a suppos'd Parliament 13 E. 2. yet it falls out unluckily that they have Statutes in Print 3 E. 2. which speak not a word of Confirming the Laws before that time made in England and yet no Man will question but Statute Laws of England made in the Reign of E. 1. were a Rule which the Judges in Ireland went by before the time of E. 2. And that all Judgments given in Ireland contrary to any Law transmitted thither under the Great Seal of England must upon Writs of Error have been set aside here as Erroneous But let 's see whether our Parliaments in the time of E. 1. had such a defference to the Irish Legislature or that the English in Ireland then made any such pretensions as Mr. M. advances If we Credit Judge Bolton our Statute Westm 1st which was 3 E. 1. was first confirm'd in Ireland 13 E. 2. and till then according to Mr. M.'s Inferences from their receiving or publishing Laws made here that Statute was of no force in Ireland being Introductory of a new Law in several particulars as among other things in Subjecting Franchises to be seized into the King's Hands for default of pursuing Felons and in Enacting not only the Imprisoning and Fining Malefactors in Parks and Vivaries but forcing them to Abjure the Realm if they could not find Sureties for their good Behaviour This Act does not Name Ireland but the King Ordain'd and Establish'd it by His Council and by the assent of the Archbishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons and all the Commonalty of the Realm thither Summoned for the mending the Estate of the Realm for the Common profit of the holy Church of the Realm and as Profitable and Convenient for the whole Realm However that Ireland as part of the Realm was bound by this Law and by other Laws made 11 12 and 13 E. 1. without any regard to Parliamentary Confirmations in Ireland and that for enforcing Obedience to those Laws 't was enough to send them thither by some proper Messenger under the Great Seal of England if not without appears by the Proceedings of the Parliament at Winchester holden the Oct. after the Parliament of Westim 2. Mem. quod c. Mem. that on Friday in the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross in the 13 th Year of the King at Winchester there were deliver'd to Roger Brâ—ton Clerk to the Venerable Father William Bishop of Waterford then Justice of Ireland certain Statutes made and provided by the King and His Council viz. The Statutes of Westminster made soon after the King's Coronation and the Statutes of Gloster and those made for Merchants and the Statute of Westm provided and made in the King's Parliament at Easter to be carried to Ireland and there to be Proclaimed and Observed It appears that among the Statutes delivered to the Chief Justices Clerk in order to their being published and observed in Ireland one was the Statute concerning Merchants 12. E. 1. for the enforcing and improving a Statute made at Acton Burnel 11. of that King that of Acton Burnel provides a remedy for Debts to Merchants to be had by calling the Debtor before the Mayor of London York or Bristol or before the Mayor and a Clerk to be appointed by the King which as it seems 't was intended that the King should have Power to appoint in other Cities or Towns within his Kingdom Accordingly the Statute 12. E. 1. says the King had commanded it to be firmly kept throughout his Realm and that Parliament 12. for declaring or explaining some of the Articles of the former Statute names the Mayor of London or the Chief Governour of that City or of other good Town This Statute expresly Ordains and Establishes that it be thenceforth held throughout the
17th of his Reign and not of E. 1. for which I shall refer not only to what I before observed which may give reasonable satisfaction that no such Ordinance could have been made in the 17th of E. 1. but to the Statute-Rolls where this is entered among the Statutes of the time of E. 2. next above the Statutes of the time of E. 3. For maintaining the Jurisdiction of England that Statute of Nottingham ordains That no Pardon for Felony be granted by the Justice of Ireland nor Seal'd with the King's Seal there without special Command of the King under some one of his Seals of England 1. It being so manifest from undoubted Records that the Parliaments of England to the 17 th of E. 2. exercised an Authority in making Laws to bind Ireland and that there was a plain and known Method for publishing those Laws in Ireland by virtue of the Great Seal of England I hope it will be allowed that the Authority of Sir Richard Bolton's Marginal Note in an Edition of the Irish Statutes is not enough to induce Men to believe that in the 13 th of E. 2. the Statute of Merton 20 th H. 3. and some other Statutes made in England were confirmed in Ireland as being of no force there till then And that no other Statutes made in England were of force in Ireland till confirm'd there Can any Man think that no part of the Statute of Merton was received for Law in Ireland till the 13 th of E. 2. particularly will even Mr. M. believe that notwithstanding the Record 21. H. 3. of Transmission of so much at least of the Statute of Merton as relates to the Limitation of Writs yet till the 13 th of E. 2. the descent in a Writ of Right was to be lay'd from an Ancestor of the time of H. 1. which is 200 Years within One Or does he think that the Justice of Ireland for the time being would not have been turn'd out if not impeached had he not caused the Statutes of West 1. and 2. and the Statutes of Gloucester to have been Proclaimed and Observed in Ireland after they had been delivered to his Clerk in the Parliament at Winchester and yet if there be any thing in Mr. M s Quotation from Sir Richard Bolton these were not received for Laws in Ireland till 13. E. 2. But since 't is manifest that those and the other Statutes afterwards sent over in the time of E. 1. and E. 2. must needs have been put in Execution there if there were any such Act of Parliament 13. E. 2. as Mr. M. takes for granted upon no Authority in comparison with the Records which I have cited as to so much of any Acts of Parliament made here as was not transmitted in the form above shewn the Enacting them in in Ireland might be the first Publication there But as to what was contained in the Patent or Charter sent thither it could be no more than a Declaratory Law or rather Republication Sometimes there might have been a special form of Transmission which as one means of publishing the Laws might require their Parliament to meet to hear Laws read to them which would bind them whether they consented or no or by Writ from hence a Law or Charter pass'd there might be so republished Thus 't was beyond Contradiction 12. H. 3. when a Charter of King John's Sworn to by the Irish was either sent back or republished after it had lain there Rex dilecto fideli suo Ric. de Burgo Justic suo Mandamus vobis â—irmiter praecipientes quatenus certo die loco faciatis venire coram vobis Arch. Ep. Ab. Pr. Com. Bar. Mil. libere tenentes Ballivos singulor Comitat coram eis publice legi faciatis cartam Dni J. Regis Patris nri cui Sigillum sum appensum est quam fieri fecit jurari à Magnatibus Hib. de legibus consuetud Anglicis observandis praecipiatis exparte nostrâ quod leges illas consuetudines in carta praed contentas de caetero firmiter tenennt Et hoc idem per singulos Comitatus Hib. clamari faciatis teneri Prohibentes firmiter exparte nostrâ super forisfactur nostram ne quis contra hoc Mandatum venire presumat The King to his Beloved and Faithful Subject Richard de Burgh his Justice of Ireland we command you firmly requiring that at a certain day and place you cause to come before you the Arch-Bishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons Knights Freeholders and the Bailiffs of every County and before them cause publickly to be read the Charter of King John our Father to which his Seal is affixed which he caused to be made and sworn by the great Men of Ireland concerning the observing in Ireland the Laws and Customs of England And command them from us that they for the future firmly keep and observe the Laws and Customs in the said Charter contained And cause this same to be Proclaimed thro' every County of Ireland firmly Prohibiting in our Name and under our Forfeiture that no person presume to the contrary of this our Command All must agree that this Publication in so formal a Parliament and after that in the several Counties was not necessary to give Sanction to that Charter for that it had before And could be no more than a reminding them of their Duty or a more solemn Publication of the Law But that being a Law made here was held sufficient to make it a Law to the English in Ireland and that being transmitted thither under the Great Seal of England it became a Rule to the Judges there even in matters happening before the transmission appears by the following Precedents A Man having been redisseis'd after the Statute of Merton 20. H. 3. which had made a Redisseisour lyable to Imprisonment A Party who had been so injured applies to the King for Remedy and as the Writ to the Justice of Ireland has it Ideo vobis mittimus sub sigillo nostro constitutionem nuper factam coram nobis Magnatibus nostris Angliae de praedicto casu similiter de aliis artiâ—ulis ad emendationem rni nri Mandantes quat de consilio venererab Pat. L. Dublin Arch. constitutionem illam in Curiâ nostra Hib. legi de caetero firmiter observari faciatis secund eandem praed querenti plene justitiam exhiberi faciatis Therefore we send you under our Seal the Constitution lately made before us and our great Men of England concerning that Case and other Articles for the Amendment of this our Kingdom commanding That with the Counsel of the venerable father L. Arch-Bishop of Dublin you cause that Constitution to be read in our Court of Ireland and for the future to be firmly observed and that you fully dojustice to the Complainant according to the same In the Sense in which the Parliament
to be Governed and an assurance that they should have no Laws imposed upon them in any other manner than upon such of the English here as had no Votes in the making Laws But one end at least of the sending over that Charter must needs have been suitable to the declared end of a Subsequent sending King John's Charter when the Justice of Ireland was required to Summon not only the Great Men but the Free-holders of every County who after the Laws had been read to them were to swear to the observance of them beside which they were to be Proclaim'd in the several Counties 5. Admit the Charter sent to Ireland 1. H. 3. had given the Irish Liberty to hold Parliaments with Representatives from all parts of that Land according to the English Form This Liberty was derived from a Convention of the States of the Kingdom of England or Parliament in the Minority of a King who had no Judgment of his own was under the Government of a Subject whom the States had set over him and the Kingdom and that King was manifestly Chosen by them to the setting aside Eleanor who had the Right of Descent as far as that could avail So that the King could have no pretence to the imaginary divine Right of Succession and therefore that Charter must have been derived from the Grant of the People of England And besides the Record shews that this tho' sent by the advice of all the King 's faithful People was thought to want some Formality to make it a Parliament the Assembly in which it was advised being held by a Regent may be thought to have occasioned the reference to a greater or more solemn Council However such reference shews that 't was not their Intention to be concluded by what was then done and when a Charter is afterwards sent over in full Form then there 's not a word of Concession but an absolute Command that the Laws be publish'd and obey'd However take the Charter sent them 1. H. 3. in the utmost extent imaginable 't is not to be thought that while the English Parliament gave those of the English Pale or others in Ireland Liberty to hold Parliaments they divested themselves of that Authority by which they gave such Liberty To use the Words of the great Man Grotius Se per modum legis id est per modum superioris obgare nemo potest Et hinc est quod legum Auctores habent jus leges suas mutandi Potest tamen quis obligari suâ lege non directè sâ—d per reflectionem ex aequitate naturali quae partes vult componi ad rationem integri No Man can bind himself by way of Law that is as a Supâ—rior And hence â—tis that Law-makers have Right to change their Laws Yet one may be bound by his own Law not directly but by reflexion from natural Equâ—ty which requires the parts to be compos'd with respect to the whole 6. Admit the Charter sent 1. H. 3. being by consent of the States of the Kingdom of England should be taken for an absolute departure from Power before vested in them then it ought to be taken Strictiâ—juris and to confer no Rright beyond what is express'd And therefore 1. The Men of Ireland had a Grant only of such Liberties as were sent them distinctly reduced into Writing And unless the usual Practice of sending over the Laws made here be taken to explain this or they shew the very Charter then sent 't is to be supposed that only such Liberties were Expressed and Granted them as were proper for an Appendage to the Crown of England 2. If all King John's Charter were sent them which I may well admit according to the explanation of the following usage unless they can prove as we can here that before that time they had Common Councils of all the Land of Ireland for all Matters of Publick concern and that the Maxim here had obtain'd there Those things which concern all ought to be treated of by all the only end of Common Councils of the Kingdom of England expressed in King John's Charter being in relation to the principal Grievance about the raising of Aids to the Crown the Grants to Ireland could extend no further than a Liberty to have such a Council for the raising Aids And there 's no doubt but more Money may be rais'd by such National Consent than can be in the most Arbitrary way which abates the force of the Argument from H. 3. his desiring the Archbishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons Knights Freemen Cities and Burroughs of the Land of Ireland to Aid him as much as they could with Men and Money And hence tho' 't would have been no breach of King John's Charter for the King to raise Aids of his Tenents in Chief for making his Eldest Son a Knight without calling for them to any Council that being one of the exceptions out of the Liberties expressed in that Charter yet H. 3. writ to the Archbishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons Knights and all his Freemen of the Land of Ireland intreating them to give him such an Aid 6. After all to shew how little there is in his mighty Argument from the Writ 1. H. 3. Let him take his choice either that the English in Ireland had a Parliament granted or confirmed to them by the Charter sent along with the Writ 1. H. 3. or they had not If they had then those Laws which were made here after such Establishment in pursuance of the desire of them from Ireland shew that neither the Parliaments of England nor they of Ireland thought they had any Power to make Laws there If there was no Grant or Confirmation of any Parliament there then the Concession of English Laws and Liberties was no more than a Declaration that they should be governed by the Laws made and to be made by Parliament in England or receiv'd there by the consent of the People giving Force and Authority to their own approved Customs But since after all Mr. M.'s learned Flourishes about the Setling of Parliaments in Ireland by the Modus sent over in the time of H. 2. and subsequent Grants he admits that under the 3 Kings H. 2. King John and H. 3. and their Predecessors we must repute them to have submitted to the Laws made here in those Reigns for want of a regular Legislature establish'd among them And since whatever he admits there 's no Colour of such an Establishment by the end of H. 3. Let 's see what can be found in the next Reign E. 1. having in his absence from England upon the Death of H. 3. his Father been Elected and Declared King of England in a full Convention of the States of this Kingdom in a Writ sent by those States to Ireland 't is affirm'd that the Government of England and the Dominion or Lordship of the Land of Ireland belonged to