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A19175 The palinod of Iohn Coluill wherein he doth penitently recant his former proud offences, specially that treasonable discourse lately made by him against the vndoubted and indeniable title of his dread soueraigne Lord, King Iames the sixt, vnto the crowne of England, after decease of her Maiesty present. Colville, John, 1542?-1605.; A. C., fl. 1600. 1600 (1600) STC 5587; ESTC S108516 18,930 40

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intitulation_n thereof_o bear_v these_o word_n de_fw-fr ceux_fw-fr qui_fw-fr sont_fw-fr nez_fw-fr outre_fw-fr ou_fw-fr de_fw-fr la_fw-fr mer._n i._n de_fw-fr trans_fw-la mare_fw-la natis_fw-la by_o which_o rubric_n or_o argument_n it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o this_o stature_n in_o the_o original_n thereof_o do_v not_o contain_v this_o word_n peregrinis_fw-la for_o the_o tenor_n of_o a_o law_n shall_v not_o exceed_v the_o nature_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o title_n and_o so_o it_o shall_v not_o prejudge_v his_o majesty_n who_o be_v bear_v within_o the_o say_a island_n as_o also_o to_o they_o that_o will_v indifferent_o mark_v the_o drift_n and_o intention_n of_o that_o statute_n they_o shall_v find_v ittend_v only_o against_o child_n bear_v without_o the_o four_o sea_n which_o compass_n the_o say_a island_n whereby_o scotland_n be_v no_o more_o seclude_v nor_o wales_n &_o cornwall_n and_o so_o it_o be_v not_o improbable_a which_o some_o allege_v that_o the_o rubrique_n aforesaid_a shall_v be_v de_fw-fr peregrinis_fw-la trans_fw-la mare_fw-la natis_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-fr peregrinis_fw-la &_o trans_fw-la mare_fw-la natis_fw-la secondlie_o because_o the_o
succeed_v seclude_v altogether_o margaret_n queen_n of_o scotland_n his_o elder_a sister_n and_o her_o descent_n whereunto_o i_o reply_v short_o first_o by_o conjecture_n next_o by_o peremptory_a answer_n it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o a_o prince_n so_o righteous_a so_o wise_a so_o kind_a as_o king_n henry_n the_o eight_o be_v know_v to_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v so_o unkind_o and_o unrighteouslie_o deal_v with_o his_o elder_a sister_n germane_a as_o to_o spoil_v and_o degrade_v she_o and_o her_o innocent_a succession_n of_o all_o honour_n and_o expectation_n that_o god_n and_o nature_n have_v provide_v for_o they_o next_o he_o can_v not_o forget_v the_o commendable_a answer_n of_o henry_n the_o seven_o his_o most_o prudent_a father_n who_o at_o the_o contract_n of_o marriage_n make_v betwixt_o king_n james_n the_o four_o of_o worthy_a memory_n and_o lady_n margaret_n elder_a daughter_n to_o the_o say_a king_n henry_n the_o seven_o sundry_a of_o his_o counsel_n labour_v to_o empesh_v that_o marriage_n say_v unto_o he_o that_o it_o may_v come_v to_o the_o great_a dishonour_n and_o discommodity_n of_o the_o realm_n in_o case_n which_o be_v very_o possible_a that_o england_n shall_v fall_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o king_n of_o scotland_n whereunto_o the_o say_v noble_a prince_n answer_v that_o in_o case_n it_o fall_v out_o so_o there_o be_v no_o inconvenient_a to_o england_n for_o as_o william_n the_o conqueror_n attain_v to_o the_o crown_n of_o england_n do_v join_v and_o subject_n normandy_n to_o england_n and_o not_o england_n to_o normandy_n so_o scotland_n be_v the_o least_o of_o the_o two_o realm_n shall_v be_v subject_v to_o england_n if_o any_o such_o accident_n shall_v arrive_v because_o the_o lesser_a must_v cede_fw-la and_o give_v place_n to_o the_o great_a by_o which_o answer_n the_o say_a noble_a prince_n henry_n the_o eight_o know_v full_a well_o it_o be_v not_o his_o father_n meaning_n to_o defraud_v his_o elder_a daughter_n nor_o her_o 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possunt_fw-la primogenitos_fw-la exharedare_v aut_fw-la minuere_fw-la iura_fw-la primogeniturae_fw-la benedictus_fw-la in_o cap._n reynutius_n in_o verbo_fw-la in_fw-la eodem_fw-la testamento_fw-la quia_fw-la regna_fw-la deferuntur_fw-la jure_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la naturae_fw-la beneficio_fw-la competunt_fw-la liberis_fw-la exhaeredatione_fw-la paterna_fw-la tolli_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la nec_fw-la etiam_fw-la statuum_fw-la regni_fw-la ministerio_fw-la in_o remotiorem_fw-la transferri_fw-la denique_fw-la cum_fw-la dominus_fw-la non_fw-la tulerit_fw-la israclitas_fw-la imo_fw-la dederit_fw-la illos_fw-la in_o direptionem_fw-la quod_fw-la spreta_fw-la domo_fw-la david_n sibi_fw-la regem_fw-la jeroboam_fw-la filium_fw-la nabath_n constituissent_fw-la negari_fw-la nequit_fw-la quantum_fw-la partiale_n regnorum_fw-la translationes_fw-la à_fw-la propinquioribus_fw-la ad_fw-la remotiores_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la legibus_fw-la humanis_fw-la ver●…metiam_fw-la voluntati_fw-la divinae_fw-la repugnent_fw-la secondlie_o the_o say_v pretend_a testament_n be_v supposititious_a &_o contrive_v by_o such_o as_o mean_v to_o defraud_v both_o the_o heir_n female_a of_o the_o say_a king_n henry_n the_o 8._o aswell_o as_o these_o of_o his_o elder_a sister_n which_o do_v manifest_o appear_v immediate_o after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o say_v young_a prince_n edward_n when_o as_o the_o lord_n gilford_n elder_a son_n to_o the_o duke_n of_o northumberland_n do_v marry_v with_o lady_n jeane_a elder_a daughter_n to_o the_o foresay_a lady_n francoyse_n duchess_n of_o suffolk_n to_o who_o the_o say_a testament_n design_v the_o succession_n the_o meaning_n of_o which_o marriage_n be_v to_o erect_v the_o say_a lady_n jeane_a and_o to_o deject_v the_o two_o innocent_a and_o most_o illust_a enfante_n of_o henry_n the_o eight_o queen_n marie_n and_o queen_n elizabeth_n thirdlie_o of_o the_o witness_n that_o have_v sign_v the_o say_a pretend_a testament_n three_o of_o 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