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A18601 The ghosts of the deceased sieurs, de Villemor, and de Fontaines A most necessarie discourse of duells: wherein is shewed the meanes to roote them out quite. With the discourse of valour. By the Sieur de Chevalier. To the King. The third edition reviewed, corrected, and augmented in French, and translated by Tho. Heigham, Esquire.; Ombres des défuncts sieurs de Villemor et de Fontaines. English Chevalier, Guillaume de, ca. 1564-ca. 1620.; Heigham, Thomas. 1624 (1624) STC 5129; ESTC S107802 63,364 172

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marke of Soueraigntie to giue Pardons It is so without doubt but they must be conformable to the Iustice of God who hath established Lawes therein as is seene by the Townes of Refuge which were aunciently amongst the Israelites which were for accidents proceeding of ignorance chance-medley and other notable circumstances following which all Soueraigne Princes may iustly and with good conscience giue life But for the Pardons which are forged now a dayes there can bee found no example either in holy Bookes or in prophane But if they take that for a marke of Soueraigntie the Assyrian Monarchs Persians Greekes and Romanes were by that reckoning no Soueraignes The Kings of England of Spaine Swede Denmarke c. be then no Soueraignes they haue for all that the markes of Soueraigntie common with our Kings To giue letters of Nobilitie of Naturalitie to mint money to create new Estates to confirme them to leuie impositions c. Bee not these faire markes and well raised There is no speach of giuing Pardons of this qualitie It followeth that Soueraigntie is not founded vpon that What is then her foundation that the Soueraigne doe depend vpon God onely and not to acknowledge any man liuing for his Superiour So he is inferiour to God onely But how say you to this Sir He doth absolutely forbid that which you permit God will be angry we speake it for the health of your soule And if wee did conuerse still among men wee would beseech you with knees to the ground to waigh these words if you take not a better order God will be angry Wee will not speake of Strangers from Spaine Italie Almanie England Poland Denmarke who hold the French for mad-men and possessed with deuills and doe speake of the Kings of France for this occasion very strangely and which is worse with too great truth We alleadge onely your Auncestours Clouis Charlemagne Sr. Louis and so many other excellent Princes A man shall not finde that they haue permitted these combates of the Nobilitie so ill grounded And if they haue permitted them it hath been twice or thrice in a thousand yeares and for very important considerations onely capable of offence and to make a distinction of great and small things The Subiect touched 1. The honour of God 2. The honour and seruice of the Prince and consequently of the Commonwealth 3. The honour the conscience and the life of euery particular man It was also a Gordion knot a quarrell without any meanes of attonement and a mischiefe without any remedie but extremitie which ariueth very sieldome for there is not almost any offence but may be reconciled These principall points are so pertinently deduced by a Discourse intituled of Quarrels and of Honour that the Author deserueth much glory thereby as a man that hath set downe the true and solide foundations of Honour If they say that it is an inueterate furie because that quarrells haue Honour for their foundation we answer first of all that vntill King Francis the 1. they knew not what quarrells were in the manner vsed now adaies and that France before that time was all heaped with honour bowed vnder the burthen of glorious victories gotten vpon strangers when as there was no speach at all of this mortall contagion nor any imagination thereof It had as many magnificent Trophies as Captaines as many triumphant Palmes as Gentlemen and as many crownes of Oake as simple souldiers we will marke onely one of those times When Charles the 8. as a winde a torrent a thunder tempestious furious pierceing ouerthrew spoiled vanquished Italy with so great and fearefull a swiftnes was there in all the earth a Nobility like to the French was there any thing so generous so vertuous and then there was no speach of Duell We forbeare to speake of all the other ages past which haue had valiant men Demy-Gods so renowned so redoubted through all the world who neuer knew this folly Secondly we say let there be meanes found to tie vp fooles and desperate men There hath beene no fault but in your moderne Predecessors there will be no fault but in your Maiestie you haue the cables and the chaines to stay these frantickes and how We haue already told you Not to giue any more Pardons Yet that is not all You must make known and publish throughout the Realme your Maiesties intention make a solemne Oath before God neuer to giue any vnlesse they be conformable to the Lawes of God as we haue remarked and let it be a perpetuall Edict irreuocable and another Law Salicke for your Successors There is yet more and that is the knot of the matter It must be made knowne wherein true Honour doth consist and Lawes established therein and that they which shall violate them be punished without remission without exception Beleeue it will be very easie to stay the most ticklish or to speake better the most hairebraind Others will be bridled by apprehension of the confiscations and mulcts which waighes them so downe that they be constrained to say That they which die in Duell are in better case then the vanquishers It is a Cadmean victory a lamentable victory lamentable for all Christendome a fearefull marke of the anger of God and an infallible presage of his vengeances neare at hand There are not any how euill soeuer they be but would be very well content that there were Lawes for the point of Honour and that there might be no cutting of throates continually for a flies foote They dare not speake for feare to be reputed cowards or that they are prouident for themselues they incline to the corruption of the time notwithstanding not any of good iudgement and truely generous doe esteeme or feare them the more It is iustly a worthy recompence for Hypocrites and euill Christians Surely we must particularly cull out what Honour is seeing it is the spring of so many mischeifes Amongst a hundred that fight for this faire quality there will not be found two that know what it is An argument of their ignorance and beastlines a worthy basis of such a pillar They are killed they know not why We say then that Honour is a quality raised vp attributed to persons according to the knowledge that is had of their merit Place is giuen to Authority and to few merit to all sorts of persons that haue it Honour is enclosed as we haue said with these sowre tearms God the Soueraigne Prince the Countrey and Vertue all the rest is but smoake Let vs see if in the Duells which be so ordinary in France we can finde these fowre lights which should conduct the actions of men There is not one of them For the three first it is most euident that such actions are wholly repugnant thereunto God is thereby grieuously offended the Prince looseth his Subiects the Countrey her children Let vs examine Vertue by her kindes it may be we shall finde it there Is Prudence there not at all Hath it beene